Theory on Market - Nexus S General

I know me and a few other people have been getting problems on downloading any apps on the market for some reason. Also I have noticed that some times my wifi icon and signal icon is green and other times they are gray.
Well I just figured out that I only get these problems downloading apps on the market while my icons are grey, but when the icons are green market works normal. Now I know that I still get data while the icons are grey, cause my web browsing works so it can't mean that im not receiving an active connection. Does anyone know what does the difference in colored icons mean?
Sorry if this is posted already and I posted in this section because I believe it has to deal with the fix of the market problem

Grey means that you aren't connected to google's sync servers. so yes this may be the cause of not being able to d/l

thanx cuz i remember someone asking about the color also but with no answer so what may be the reason why i am not connected to googles sync servers like 85% of the time? and is it possible to fix?
also this may be the cause of all the errors with gtalk connecting or not sending msgs ive been reading about

I'm getting the same errors too. Any fixes?
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Glad to know it isn't just me! I was scrolling thru settings trying to figure out why my icons were gray
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Mine only go grey when switching from EDGE to WiFi. the only thing i can suggest is a factory reset. also, is this happening when the phone is going down to edge? this may be what is causing the problem.

ill do a nandroid backup and then do a factory reset and post any updates
EDIT: so far its working im about to restore my phone tho cuz i forgot to make a titanium backup of my apps then ill wipe again ill post if it starts messing up again

My phone has not had this problem, but I have seen my wifes do this a few times. We both got the Nexus S today. We run on wifi here at home. I thought it was really odd when trying to get some items from the market.
It eventually turned green, but took about 30 seconds or so.

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Mobile network greyed out

For some reason my 3g keeps disconnecting. In settings the mobile network option is greyed out, stuck on "turning on". The only thing that fixes it is a reboot.
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No one has any idea why this happens?
Is your phone stock?
it seems to just show that when the phone is idle, not updating, sending/receiving, etc. i have no way to prove this, just a theory.
exigent said:
For some reason my 3g keeps disconnecting. In settings the mobile network option is greyed out, stuck on "turning on". The only thing that fixes it is a reboot.
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I had that problem when I was running adrylalyne's Vanilla FrankenROM. It's the sole reason why I had to quit running it. It was a seriously annoying once-in-a-while thing at first but once I'd been running it for about 24 hours, it seemed to happen ALL THE TIME and got to the point where sometimes even a reboot wouldn't fix it. I haven't had it on any other ROM, though.
I was running the leaked radio (2.05?) when I had that ROM. Now that I've got 2.15, I've been thinking about giving it another shot.
patches152 said:
it seems to just show that when the phone is idle, not updating, sending/receiving, etc. i have no way to prove this, just a theory.
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No, the connection completely goes away. It's not just "I can't see the 3G symbol"... The phone actually has NO data connection and it seems impossible to get it to come back without a reboot.
2.15 radio fixed that for me. Using first leak Rom still.
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in order to get rid of this, you'd need to find which file or which portion of that file controls the signal indicator on the phone, and replace it with an older version of that file, from before this "idle" indicator began.
maybe the google holds the answers you seek?
patches152 said:
in order to get rid of this, you'd need to find which file or which portion of that file controls the signal indicator on the phone, and replace it with an older version of that file, from before this "idle" indicator began.
maybe the google holds the answers you seek?
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Not an indicator problem. The phone truly has no connection.
gruss01 said:
2.15 radio fixed that for me. Using first leak Rom still.
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Good to know. I think I will try that FrankenROM again, then.
i'm unrooted and on stock OS, just got my incredible yesterday...so far i've noticed that it seems to just stay dormant, whenever i open an app that connects to the network, it automatically lights up the indicator and starts using the data, and it doesn't seem to prevent me from actually sending or receiving data, so i don't know how i would tell if it's actually no connection or just an "idle" indicator. how did you come to that conclusion?
patches152 said:
i'm unrooted and on stock OS, just got my incredible yesterday...so far i've noticed that it seems to just stay dormant, whenever i open an app that connects to the network, it automatically lights up the indicator and starts using the data, and it doesn't seem to prevent me from actually sending or receiving data, so i don't know how i would tell if it's actually no connection or just an "idle" indicator. how did you come to that conclusion?
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What you see is normal. The 3G (or 1X) indicator only lights when the data connection is being used. The problem here is that there was no data connection. I would attempt to do anything that used the data connection and it would not connect. No email, no internet, no Nav, no nothing. The programs would all open, but could not download anything.
Agreed, that's sort of what I was implying, I was referring to the OP. so the connection issues are Rom based, not related with the gray indicators. Just because its gray doesn't mean you don't have connection. Clarifying for the next person who stumbles across this thread.
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To the OP, this happened to me today using Sky Raider Sense 2.5.2. I also had to restart, so it's not only you that has the problem.
patches152 said:
Agreed, that's sort of what I was implying, I was referring to the OP. so the connection issues are Rom based, not related with the gray indicators. Just because its gray doesn't mean you don't have connection. Clarifying for the next person who stumbles across this thread.
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What he was talking about being greyed out is when you go into Menu> Settings> Wireless & Networks, the place where you check to turn Mobile networks on and off is greyed out with the text of "Turning on..." below.
well now i feel like a giant ass, lol!
jtcarnes said:
What you see is normal. The 3G (or 1X) indicator only lights when the data connection is being used. The problem here is that there was no data connection. I would attempt to do anything that used the data connection and it would not connect. No email, no internet, no Nav, no nothing. The programs would all open, but could not download anything.
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Same thing happened to me over the weekend. I was in a tiny town in Texas that apparently had no 3g and I was unable to do anything that used the data connection. Reboot didn't work, neither did changing the Mobile Directory Number to all zeros when pressing ##program>NAM-General (as was suggested on a different forum which I cannot link to). What sucks is that it's highly unlikely I can duplicate this problem since there is probably good 3g coverage around the verizon store in the city where I live. I called verizon and the person said something about that area not having access to the data network, which I don't believe because when I was screwing with the settings under ##program I managed to get a text message. My wife's Samsung Vibrant (I know, different network) had no 3g but she was still able to access all apps that required the data network.
When my wife's Incredible was stock, this happened to her. It wouldn't connect to 3G. When going into settings and checking it out, "Mobile Network" was all grayed out. After LONG discussions with Verizon Tech Dept, 2 factory resets later, they found the problem to be on their end with the phone being "lost" on their system. They reset something (didn't tell me what) and bingo! her phone had 3G again.
I just had it happen to me. Reboot fixed it, but I'd like to know why its happening so I can tell my friends at VZW to look into it...
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Still happening to me. I told the tech that a bunch of people in the forums were saying it was a problem on their end, something about my phone needing to be removed from and then added back to the data plan, and they told me that they'd look into it. Eventually the 3g came back on its own like it always has when I have this problem, and the next day I got a text from verizon saying the issue had been fixed (which I doubt consisted of anything more than someone having the system send me a text saying the issue had been fixed). I've had this problem when my phone was stock, when I updated to the 2.05 baseband, and now that I've rooted and installed skyraider. Not exactly the experience I anticipated when I left the iphone 3g...
noticed another thing, idk if related...my gmail will "quit" working...meaning, it shows i have new emails inside the app, but they haven't pulled to my phone yet. the refresh button in the app, and the sync now button under accounts don't work, i had to do a nand wipe and restore a file from a day ago. i think it's app related, because it always seemed to happen after i updated some apps in the market, but one of the times (this last time) i didn't update the apps, i deleted them and it still happened. all other data and network connections work fine, only gmail. prolly not related, but thought i'd throw it out there

[Q] Reception, Lock screen and SMS limit...?

I'm surprised I haven't seen a thread on here about reception issues. My 3G goes in and out , from 4 bars to 1 and even zero bars at times while the phone is staying in the exact spot. does anyone thing this is a hardware or software issue?
The lock screen totally lags. it's almost ridiculous I have about 4 frames for the entire animation of it sliding left to right
I can't figure out a way to make the SMS limit per conversation over 1000. The phone keeps deleting my texts =( Is there a way around this I'm missing ...?
Love the phone it just seems like there's a few REALLY silly stupid problems with it .
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My voice search just will not search my contacts... I noticed it will only find contacts which are synced with Google, however even though i have my options to sync my contacts. i still only have 5/173 of my contacts synced.
For some silly reason there is ONE person ( that i know of) who's facebook profile was not downloaded into my phonebook . I only care for the picture ID .. but it's odd every one else (whom i know of) was downloaded other than him, spoke to him there's nothing special about his profile.
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Has anyone noticed a clicking sound which sometimes happens whenever the camera is opened? It sounds as if something near the camera is physically clicking
any other droid 2 owners have these problems?
You're totally right about the 3G going in and out. I'm in my basement and when I'm on a call, it actually drops. Last night I called my g/f back from my house phone, and the bars jumped from 1 back to 4. Sometimes I get that 1X instead of 3G.
The phone totally has potential, I just hope a root comes out soon and we have a lot of room to play with. I came off the Motorola Cliq to the Droid 2 and honestly, even with my Cliq rooted, it seems way superior to the quality I'm getting on the Droid 2.
Let alone that the service provider is Verizon, the service should be the best... The only good thing I can say about the phone is that I'm able to watch flash videos off the web, and the new games coming out are actually playable without lag. Other than that, Tethering without root is like having PDAnet on my phone. I use EasyTether right now and it's not much faster that PDAnet. I also hope when root drops, j_r0dd from modmymobile gets his hands on it, I missed my white on black theme and I prefer the Droid X bootanimation on my start up.
have you tried the manual update to 2.2.20? I experienced the signal bug having my reception drop to 1x while it was 3g a minute before and the phone wasn't moved, but after i did the manual update to 2.2.20 by going to system -> software update i haven't seen it since.
With the unlock screen, I at first noticed lag but after reading motorolas recommendations on how a smartphone is like a computer and it should be shut off / rebooted occasionally, i did shut down a couple times and the phone is very smooth now and the unlock animation is perfect.
try shutting down the phone and unplugging the battery for a little and then put the battery back in and let it boot up. I believe the phone uses some kind of cache system that loads up frequently used items on startup, maybe that is why its smooth now.
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With the unlock screen, I at first noticed lag but after reading motorolas recommendations on how a smartphone is like a computer and it should be shut off / rebooted occasionally, i did shut down a couple times and the phone is very smooth now and the unlock animation is perfect.
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Bull****.
10 char.
droid2andyou said:
have you tried the manual update to 2.2.20? I experienced the signal bug having my reception drop to 1x while it was 3g a minute before and the phone wasn't moved, but after i did the manual update to 2.2.20 by going to system -> software update i haven't seen it since.
With the unlock screen, I at first noticed lag but after reading motorolas recommendations on how a smartphone is like a computer and it should be shut off / rebooted occasionally, i did shut down a couple times and the phone is very smooth now and the unlock animation is perfect.
try shutting down the phone and unplugging the battery for a little and then put the battery back in and let it boot up. I believe the phone uses some kind of cache system that loads up frequently used items on start up, maybe that is why its smooth now.
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The update did nothing for me =/... I've rebooted countless times, still nothing , the next thing that really aggravates is the text message limit... smart phones are supposed to have practically unlimited sms/phone book storage. I still can't find a way around it .
Biggest problems are the reception issues, considering it's most probably a hardware issue and no update will fix it=(
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Bull****.
10 char.
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I don't know what to say, it was laggy when i first got the phone and after a few shutdowns and restarts over a couple days and a shutdown battery pull for 10 minutes and a reboot and its been perfect ever since. seems like you don't know what your doing.
Bull****. The slider to answer calls is smooth. The lockscreen is not and rebooting it does not fix it. Post a video so I can believe you. I even reset the phone and it didn't help.
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I've had my Droid 2 since the release day, my first Verizon phone. I have to agree with the lock screen lag, but I have noticed something interesting with the reception issues. I'm new to verizon so I don't know if this happens with other verizon android phones but when I first wake the phone up from sleep I have one to no bars then 5-10 seconds later I usually have 4-5 bars. It seems as if the cdma radio/software goes into a type of power save mode durring sleep to save on battery power. If this is the case I can imagine the issue could be something to do the the power save mode hanging when the system wakes up, also power save mode could be a little too sensitive.
Now my inferences are completely unfounded in any knowledge other than my observations, and some basic knowledge of porting android to my old Att Tilt. If there is someone out there who knows more please correct me as I would love to stand corrected.
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Yup same here, the slider to answer calls is fine. I've come to a conclusion its just a buggy OS moto prepared quickly. Let's hope for a real update soon.
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My 3G as of now seems to have fixed itself this morning . Has this happened for anyone else ?
after doing the 2.20 update my signal problems were all fixed and the phone works increible!!!
yes there is a little clicking sound when you go to the camera. If you look into the camera lends as you open the camera app you can see it sorta move a tiny bit so there might be some protectivething over the camera lens somewhere inside there but that is just a guess.
shoman24v said:
Bull****. The slider to answer calls is smooth. The lockscreen is not and rebooting it does not fix it. Post a video so I can believe you. I even reset the phone and it didn't help.
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your asking for a lot right now. I'm not 100% sure what yours looks like but my animation at first was choppy. I noticed it the first couple times I used my phone. However after a few shutdowns and battery pulls the lock screen seems to be pretty smooth and it follows my finger with no lag.
I have also removed all the Motorola widgets from my home screens, not sure if that had something to do with it.
The 2.2.0 update did nothing whatsoever to fix my signal issues. Still getting wide variations in coverage and signal (1bar 1x RTT to 1 bar 3g to 3-4 bars 3g all from the same spot in multiple areas)
Have you tried using another launcher like launcher pro, it fixed the lag with my unlock screen, I think the blur uses up too much memory.
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The update did nothing to fix my signal issues. I don't have a problem with lag except in the gallery.
I called customer server to complain about the reception problems. The rep I talked to said Verizon is aware of the reception problems, but they aren't sure if it's the phone or the network.
He said there are other people in my area complaining of reception problems that don't have the Droid 2. He also mentioned something about areas that were mostly Alltel that are having problems. He did something on his end that is suppose to block some kind of signal having to do with Alltel and had me run the PRL update again, he said it could take up to 2 days for me to notice a difference if that was the problem.
I was also told to log each dropped call by dialing ### send.
I noticed something odd, yesterday I did a factory reset, after rooting. When I started to set everthing up I turned off the battery manager in settings, and since then it appears if all my reception issues have disappeared.
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Is that something you can configure after a factory reset without root?
Yeah, if you go to settings, battery manager, battery mode, and set it to performance. Let me know if you notice anything different.
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Yeah, if you go to settings, battery manager, battery mode, and set it to performance. Let me know if you notice anything different.
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Ah, I've always been running mine in performance mode. Did a factory reset last night and still nothing. This is really getting frustrating.
To all in this thread,
I forgive those who are ignorant and just don't know. However, if you are purposely ignorant then please stop posting.
daredevile said:
I'm surprised I haven't seen a thread on here about reception issues. My 3G goes in and out , from 4 bars to 1 and even zero bars at times while the phone is staying in the exact spot. does anyone thing this is a hardware or software issue?
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3G only shows and lights up if data transfer is occurring or if you have no 1X signal. The signal bars jump because the radio is not always transferring data (over 3G) and therefore you see it grab the signal (0-1 bars) then get full signal (3-4 bars depending on coverage of course) and once finished, bye bye.
This saves you battery. It is truly a SMARTphone. It also keeps bandwidth available to those also using a Motorola D2 and wondering the same thing.
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The lock screen totally lags. it's almost ridiculous I have about 4 frames for the entire animation of it sliding left to right
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I noticed this as well. Could be too much going on since you just turned your screen back on and apps are trying to update for you. Kind of like how you quickly pull your pants back up as your g/f is walking in the door and you act like nothing happened, but you were totally going to town.
daredevile said:
I can't figure out a way to make the SMS limit per conversation over 1000. The phone keeps deleting my texts =( Is there a way around this I'm missing ...?
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If there isn't a setting in the Text Messaging application then no. Possible solutions are to look for an app or keep hanging around here.
daredevile said:
Love the phone it just seems like there's a few REALLY silly stupid problems with it .
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It's only stupid until you get used to it. Then it's annoying. Then it's silly. Then you'll find a way to get around the issues or an update will fix them.
daredevile said:
My voice search just will not search my contacts... I noticed it will only find contacts which are synced with Google, however even though i have my options to sync my contacts. i still only have 5/173 of my contacts synced.
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Try another Voice app or sync all your contacts with Google.
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For some silly reason there is ONE person ( that i know of) who's facebook profile was not downloaded into my phonebook . I only care for the picture ID .. but it's odd every one else (whom i know of) was downloaded other than him, spoke to him there's nothing special about his profile.
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Facebook syncing has issues - sometimes really weird issues. It's a problem across all phone OS's.
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Has anyone noticed a clicking sound which sometimes happens whenever the camera is opened? It sounds as if something near the camera is physically clicking
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the phone has a mechanical shutter. hence the amazing pictures. it IS physically clicking. it's pretty sweet.

[Q] unable to dowload apps...

...Everything seems fine, browsers work, phone works, connected to wifi (so it says), background working, tried to dowload updates the dowlad bars show but no progress, tried to down load free and paid apps, again down load bars show but no progress.
did a couple of soft resets still the same, Ill leave it over night in case the app store is down then try a hard reset, unless someone comes up with an answer before then.
I had this same problem with a Samsung Captivate. ATT couldn't help(after swapping sims, making sure I had the correct data plan listed), Samsung couldn't help(after broken English conversation for an hour), nothing in the forums helped. I could only solve it by hard resetting the phone, but the problem came back after 3 days. I never found out what caused it, I just returned the phone. Try the market using 3G, I doubt this will help, but once my Streak wouldn't download apps over wifi this week, so i turned wifi off and BAM back in business B-)
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Hi, I had this issue when I first got my Streak, I had to log into the Talk app with my gmail address and then the downloads started

[Q] 3G connection issues and MMS problems.

Question 1: For the whole life of my current phone my 3G connection seems to refuse to download at times. The 3G icon is there but the up/down arrows won't light up even though my browser/app is trying to connect. It often times will connect fine later or after a restart. Sometimes the upload arrow will stick on but the download arrow never lights up. Has anyone else had this problem or have any idea what could be causing it? I have tried to research it many times and have always come up short.
Question 2: I never noticed this when I was running stock but ever since I've been running custom roms I have had trouble getting picture messages to download. It seems to work if I have the messaging app open and when I'm sending it to myself. But if I'm running handcent or the app isn't open and running it will say its downloading but never download. I also can't find any info on this, so anyone have some light on the issue? Also could these issues be related to eachother?
I will try restoring to stock and testing the MMS bug cause I haven't yet but even so I would like to find a fix to this on custom roms even if it works on stock.
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Signal bars and 3G indicator

I have a question, Some times my Signal bars and 3G indicator are green and all works well. Other times they are Gray and things start happening, for example it keeps telling me it cannot authorize Google Talk. I can still connect to the internet and everything but just not sure why the Google Talk thing stops working.
This also happens when I am on WiFi in my house. Some times it will be green and other times it will be gray.
Any advice would be helpful
Thanks
~R~
schartzr said:
I have a question, Some times my Signal bars and 3G indicator are green and all works well. Other times they are Gray and things start happening, for example it keeps telling me it cannot authorize Google Talk. I can still connect to the internet and everything but just not sure why the Google Talk thing stops working.
This also happens when I am on WiFi in my house. Some times it will be green and other times it will be gray.
Any advice would be helpful
Thanks
~R~
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i believe that they are green when they are connected to google services i was reading about it on the forum the other night.
i am sure thats the reason, if not then someone please correct me as i pick mine up tomorrow
I'm having this problem too. Mostly when switching from 3g to 2g. I believe what is happening is the data is dropping out. When data/wifi are green you are connected and all is well. The grey means it is not working. I cant figure out why I have the problem switching between 2g AND 3g. That is bugging the crap outta me. My Vibrant does it with no problems, the Nexus s not so much. Dont know if this is related only to gingerbread or the phone. Usually a reboot takes care of this, and a reboot doesnt take long on the Nexus S. But like the girlfriend says, "all that money for this phone and it doesnt work right?"
Yea mine were all grey until I added my google account info and synced up. Now they seem to be perm green.
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I dont know if I agree with that. On my device when its grey it doesnt even connect to a web page or anything that uses data. This is just my observation.
I dont know if I agree with that. On my device when its grey it doesnt even connect to a web page or anything that uses data. This is just my observation.[/QUOTE]
there are a couple more threads on here about this google "nexus s grey bars" and will give you links to them
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I dont know if I agree with that. On my device when its grey it doesnt even connect to a web page or anything that uses data. This is just my observation.
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there are a couple more threads on here about this google "nexus s grey bars" and will give you links to them[/QUOTE]
Thanks stevo.
I was under the impression they were green when a connection was active, gray when idle. Don't have an S yet though, so can't confirm, but I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere (probably on here).
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I can still connect when grey...

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