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So I've done a bunch of researching and I want the pros opinions.can I clone my evo info(msid amd the such) to my eris and have it run? itd be a great back up phone! As usual any help or knowledge is much appreciated!
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
I don't want to sound rude but have knowledge of the subject before replying please. Sprint and verizon are cdma technologies. Att and tmobile are gsm. Hence the sim card....thankyou all the same dude....
[edit]: I saw your other post that answered my question (why would you want to when you could get an EVO or better?).
You probably can; though, it will probably require some serious effort on your part.
xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
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sprint is cdma atleast i believe the hero is
xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
where do u think some of our roms come from
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Smart a$$. Lol. Jk bro. Hey Tazz I wanted to know if you will be working on cyanogenmod 7 whenever it comes out?
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Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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Why is it illegal? I ask this because I personally have flashed roms from all these great devs and sometimes I get one that says Sprint even though I'm with Verizon.
xdabens said:
I believe Sprint is GSM and Verizon is CDMA so their networks aren't compatible so you wont be able to use the eris on Sprints network.
Oh, i could have sworn sprint was GSM, guess I should make sure of these things before I go posting them.
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No they are both CDMA!! You need to get your facts straight.
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Cloning phones is illegal in most places.
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The answer is, from beginning to end, changing carriers via changing ESN's is illegal in most places, and, as a result, has no real place on this forum.
I don't know if there's a section around that relates to changing ESN's for other purposes, but this kind of activity is not condoned, supported, or even allowed by posting rules to be posted here.
The Eris, technically, has all of the hardware and software necessary to run on Sprint, Cricket, and most other CDMA networks. Each network keeps close track of what Serial numbers it will allow to operate on their network. So to answer your question, yes it is possible, but no it is not legal, and the details of the procedure (which I have no idea) are not going to be easily found here, and this thread will probably be closed, bearing the introduction of such a discussion.
I'm surprised how many useless threads people start these days.
Its amazing to me that something like this would be illegal. Where has our freedom gone?
flashing to a different carrier isn't illegal. Only ESN changing is. Flashing to a different carrier is quite possible. However, its easiest when there are identical phones on two different carriers, that way you can just flash the firmware from one to another. Also, the provider has to be willing to accept it. Verizon for the most part will accept phones that aren't produced by them, same for MetroPCS and Cricket. Sprint, and Cellular South will not. I believe I covered the major CDMA carriers.
For those that are confused. Flashing to a different providers firmware on an identical phone does not change the ESN. It just provides the new providers network information and roaming list. Case in point. I used to own a Moto Q9C, I flashed it between Cricket, Verizon, and Alltel on a monthly basis, depending on where I was going and who had the best coverage plan. ESN was never changed. Since those providers openly allow outside devices.
I'm on my eris now, I would like to take it to cellular south and I know a tech that would activate it, however, I'm not smart enough to change all the correct settings to get it to operate on their towers (would be very simple if THEY sold an eris, I could just grab eris firmware from one of their devices.)
DarthMowzy said:
Its amazing to me that something like this would be illegal. Where has our freedom gone?
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We live in America. We are not free. We are slaves to the federal government and to the tax code. My $.02
viogrep said:
flashing to a different carrier isn't illegal. Only ESN changing is. Flashing to a different carrier is quite possible. However, its easiest when there are identical phones on two different carriers, that way you can just flash the firmware from one to another. Also, the provider has to be willing to accept it. Verizon for the most part will accept phones that aren't produced by them, same for MetroPCS and Cricket. Sprint, and Cellular South will not. I believe I covered the major CDMA carriers.
For those that are confused. Flashing to a different providers firmware on an identical phone does not change the ESN. It just provides the new providers network information and roaming list. Case in point. I used to own a Moto Q9C, I flashed it between Cricket, Verizon, and Alltel on a monthly basis, depending on where I was going and who had the best coverage plan. ESN was never changed. Since those providers openly allow outside devices.
I'm on my eris now, I would like to take it to cellular south and I know a tech that would activate it, however, I'm not smart enough to change all the correct settings to get it to operate on their towers (would be very simple if THEY sold an eris, I could just grab eris firmware from one of their devices.)
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Thanks, at least someone on this thread knows what they're talking about.
Changing ESNs is illegal because there's pretty much no reason to do it except to clone other people's phones (essentially stealing their accounts).
Changing ESNs would be like rewriting the magnetic strip on your credit card with someone elses.
Your problem is weather or not Sprint will let you register the ESN on their network. The phone is compatible. Verizon is keeping track of their ESNs. If a phone isn't one of their's they won't let it on thier network. I don't know about Sprit, but it's problable the same. So you are probably out of luck.
FYI, the diffence in a Rom displaying Verizon or Sprint it just in a text file. I has nothing to do with the running code. Many of the Eris 2.2 ROMs are a port from the Srint Hero. Someone just didn't update the file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730289&highlight=cricket
This may help if you have not seen it, I flashed my eris to MetroPCS with this.
Thanks to viogrep for bringing some sanity to this thread.
If you want to explore a little, and you have the 1.49.2000 S-OFF bootloader on your phone, see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9878143&postcount=8
You can have your bootloader dump your "mfg" partition to your SD card for inspection with a hex editor.
I'm no carrier-flashing expert, but I think that this "mfg" partition is pivotal in storing the carrier and PRL settings.
bftb0
PS The above mentioned thread also gives instructions for custom-booting Amon_RA so that you have privilege and access to any of the other "hidden" partitions on the phone.
Does Bad ESN mean that i wont be able to use the device on a certain provider?For a excample if i buy bad esn SPRINT galaxy tab, will unlocking it make it able to be used in other providers?
chopho said:
Does Bad ESN mean that i wont be able to use the device on a certain provider?For a excample if i buy bad esn SPRINT galaxy tab, will unlocking it make it able to be used in other providers?
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If its sprint or verizon, it cannot be unlocked, its CDMA. I think. Once the ESN is bad it cannot be activated, not sure if they can be flashed to other CDMA provider.
It means that the carrier (Verizon or Sprint) has flagged the ESN in their system as either unauthorized or invalid; usually due to the unit being stolen, written-off, account was sent to collections, etc.
chopho said:
Does Bad ESN mean that i wont be able to use the device on a certain provider?For a excample if i buy bad esn SPRINT galaxy tab, will unlocking it make it able to be used in other providers?
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Yes.
At this point one it is very likely to be forced to have an ESN transplant.
I am unaware of a CDMA provider who will take the Tab.
It may be worth calling the carrier to determine if the ESN has a block or if its just not loaded. There have been situations where the device ESN or "flat file" was not loaded or loaded incorrectly into their system. If this is the case they can put in a ticket to have the ESN re-loaded or corrected... If it's blocked due to delinquent account or marked as stolen... good luck.
Also flashing the device to another CDMA carrier if virtually impossible because that "flat file" needs to be loaded in their system. If it was intended for Sprint there is no way Verizon is going to allow it to be added on their network.
chris98822 said:
If it was intended for Sprint there is no way Verizon is going to allow it to be added on their network.
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I would not say NO way...
I was wondering how possible it might be to activate 3g service on Sprint or Metro PCS. What all would it entail? If I could get Sprint of Metro PCS to add my Xoom to their network, what changes would I need to make in my tablet for it to function properly?
No way Sprint is gonna allow you to activate a Verizon device on their network. At least not legally.
how about other cdma network outside usa? is there any tutorial how to use xoom on other carrier outside us?
No verizon only why do you think its branded on the xoom itself
You used to be able to modify phones to run on other CDMA networks. I remember buying a KRZR from another provider, modding it and using it on Verizon's network so I didn't have the crappy Verizon software.
I imagine this is still possible.
there have been people with evos (sprint CDMA) modifying them to work on both verizon and metro pcs perhaps you could check the evo forums for info.
ESN swapping is technically illegal. and you won't be able to find a ton of info on it through XDA.
your best bet is to get it on Cricket or some other pay as you go CDMA network.
From what I've experienced by flashing my Sprint EVO to my regional carrier, it was fairly simple to do. As long as you have the proper tools such as CDMA Workshop and QPST you pretty much just put the phone in modem mode and reconfigure it (replace PRL, change data settings, etc...). You will also need to have someone from the preferred carrier add the ESN or MEID to their switch.
I suspect it will be a similar process with the Xoom but I am not savvy enough to confirm or deny that.
QPST(/QXDM/CDMA Workshop) would only work if the main processor was Qualcomm though, right?
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ESN swapping is technically illegal. and you won't be able to find a ton of info on it through XDA.
your best bet is to get it on Cricket or some other pay as you go CDMA network.
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When I did it on my KRZR, I did not swap the ESN of the unit. It was some settings you modified so it looked for Verizon's network instead of Altell, and this was before Verizon bought them. Then I added the ESN from the back of the phone to my Verizon account and it registered.
i've got my min, mdn and akey from my provider, not us off course, but how can i programming my xoom so that i can use my xoom in my country carrier?
i believe that xoom can work in my country, because previously i've been use motodroid and droidx from vzw, also right now i'm using htc evo. my question is how can i input those min akey blabla...
Hi everyone, I've read up on how to flash to cricket or metro but I'm just wondering which would be better? And I currently have no service with either of them, I got this Droid x off a lady on craigslist just to use as a gaming device but now know it can still be used as a phone!
Do I need an Android metro or cricket phone first? Or can I just pay the money and get a number then follow the steps to flash? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Forgot to add that the esn is bad on vzw. Only paid 60 bucks
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Not sure about Metro, but Cricket doesn't care about bad ESN. I never had a Cricket account until I set one up last year for a Droid X I got through Craigslist. You shouldn't need a Cricket phone first.
My phone shows up as "CPE- Smartphone- Android OS" and I'm on the "ADR Smartphone All In $55" plan. Everything works great - voice, txt, data, mms, navigation, etc. I also flashed a Craigslist-acquired Droid 2 for my wife and everything is working for her as well.
If you need help getting your account/phone setup right check with chrisngrod over at http://www.cricketusers.com/forum.php.
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Not sure about Metro, but Cricket doesn't care about bad ESN. I never had a Cricket account until I set one up last year for a Droid X I got through Craigslist. You shouldn't need a Cricket phone first.
My phone shows up as "CPE- Smartphone- Android OS" and I'm on the "ADR Smartphone All In $55" plan. Everything works great - voice, txt, data, mms, navigation, etc. I also flashed a Craigslist-acquired Droid 2 for my wife and everything is working for her as well.
If you need help getting your account/phone setup right check with chrisngrod over at http://www.cricketusers.com/forum.php.
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Dkranes do you think its possible to get a droid bionic on cricket? Would it be similar to what you did to your phone? I assume you used cdma workshop?
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I honestly have no idea, the only phones I've flashed to Cricket are the BlackBerry Pearl, BlackBerry 8830, Droid X and Droid 2. I don't see why it wouldn't work, but as far as how to do it I'm not sure.
Yeah, I used CDMA Workshop and originally I also had to use QPST. But I came across a shortcut the other day. Basically you do all the CDMA Workshop steps of the flash (including nvitems, prl, entering your MIN/MDN, etc), then after reboot do a *228. The *228 step saves you from having to do any of the QPST stuff. Here's a link, but the guy says all he did was put the PRL in with CDMA Workshop. I tried that and it didn't work for me until I did ALL the CDMA Workshop steps of the Cricket flash. To get MMS working you'll still have to setup your APN and go into ##PROGRAM to change the MMS settings. http://www.cricketusers.com/verizon...mms-no-root-needed-55-plan.html#axzz1b4mAUWbu
Hi guys, I have a question, I found a Droid 2 Global with bad esn cricket metro pcs for a very cheap price, the thing is I want to buy it and use it in my country Chile, with GSM networks.
I want to know if i can use the mobile without problems even with the bad esn or I have to reset ESN to make it work with GSM network either?
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Hi guys, I have a question, I found a Droid 2 Global with bad esn cricket metro pcs for a very cheap price, the thing is I want to buy it and use it in my country Chile, with GSM networks.
I want to know if i can use the mobile without problems even with the bad esn or I have to reset ESN to make it work with GSM network either?
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I know with cdma workshop you can actually change esn. You'll need a donor phone and one that has similar features. Don't ask me how, I've done it once using a guide on a optimus s from sprint to boost.
I was under the impression that cricket took bad esns.
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Ya you can flash any verizon or sprint phone to cricket...I am using a droid 2 on cricket right now.
I am looking at purchasing a Virgin Mobile Samsung Intercept because they are on sale at a local store because we don't have any Sprint towers so I am unable to use the Virgin mobile service. Is there any way I can activate this on Verizon's network? Also is there anything I should know about this phone before I buy it?
Thanks!
coco3431 said:
I am looking at purchasing a Virgin Mobile Samsung Intercept because they are on sale at a local store because we don't have any Sprint towers so I am unable to use the Virgin mobile service. Is there any way I can activate this on Verizon's network? Also is there anything I should know about this phone before I buy it?
Thanks!
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It could probably work but you'd still have to buy a verizon phone to use as ur donor phone. It wouldn't be worth it to do cause the intecept isn't really a great phone. Its kinda a stressful process converting phones to other carriers then what they were intended for.
Your needs are met, i've come to solve your problem!
The whole process is long but if you really want to "clone" the device to work on verizon, then you want to get the following software ($100.00+) called CDMA Workshop, this tool will allow you to "clone" fields for use on the VM/Sprint Samsung Intercept.
The previous post is true, I own a lot of phones, and the VM Intercept is a Piece of crap!! I too, have used this software to clone my intercept over to Verizon, but you will want the current most software update for the CDMA Workshop, drop the money, clone a cheap already active prepaid phone from verizon, and copy all iedi numbers, nam1 and nam2, and such. You will then want to call *611 and run through the activation and your phone should work, if you did it right...
You can probably google this info or if not, you can surely read a manual on the CDMA Workshop like most of us have to learn all you need to know to clone a phone from one network to another.
Happy Hunting and good luck!
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Second that, the Intercept leaves much to be desired. If you budget yet decent functionality I'd suggest the Optimus V which can also be modified to work on Verizon.
Good luck!
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