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so after doing exhaustive research on the subject I was not able to find a definitive thread or answer on the subject of using international sim cards on an unlocked g2. I'm hoping someone here at xda has experience with this and is able to give me advice.
I'm going to be backpacking europe for 5 weeks and want to bring my g2 to use as a computer (while connected to wifi) and making rare calls (just to check in with people at home), htc's website says this phone is quad band and umts http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-g2#tech-specs but I've never traveled so I'm not sure what to make of it.
any help would be very appreciated!!
edit: called tmobile and they were no help at all, the rep was reading off a script that didnt have much info. looking for personal experience please!
Hi,
G2/Desire Z as you rightly point out will be able to deal with mobile networks in Europe.
The problem you face is that a Sim from county 1 will work Ok in that country but will attract data roaming charges in all other european countries.
That's unless you negotiate something with the operator prior to your purchase regarding both mobile data and call roaming charges.
Chances are you will get a better deal from maybe Germany or perhaps france. Check them both on the web and also check the uk operators and see where you get..
Des. . .
Essential: WHEN will you be going? Because TMO Germany is about to bring up an Europe-wide (or at least Western Europe) roaming-charges-free card. I'll look it up and answer asap. Hold on.
EDIT: TMO Travel & Surf does not include (or not even feature? Not clear from the Article I read) calls. Sorry. PLUS the Prices seem not really good to me. I haven't found anything you're looking for in Germany yet. Could do with it as well. Greez, mwrsa
I will be travelling march-april. I guess what my question is, once they send me my unlock code and I unlock my phone to use the international sim, I will not be tied at all to tmobile or their roaming charges unless I put my original sim card back in the phone is that correct?
does anyone have any recommendations what carriers are the best? I'll be going to UK, France, Netherlands, Germany, Czech, and Spain
well I can't speak for europe I'm currently out of my home country with my DZ, I unlocked it with gfree, which I would reccomend. also its definetly cheaper to use a local simcard from where every you are travelling, there's no getting around roaming charges and insane rates if your going international. I personally picked up a free ATT card here where I am and paid 20 bucks for 100mb of data, since calling and texting is still expensive I communicate through "whatsapp" with my wife and family . it worrks on data or wifi, let's u send and receive pics and videos and uses a surprisingly tiny amount of data to do so. id honestly reccomend this route so long as your family has a whatsapp compatible device, currently its available for blackberry,droid,and iphone.
sorry I can't be more help but with "real life" experience I found this to be the best route. if u need voice, its still cheaper to pickup a 20dollar long distance calling card and use the hotel phones. or skype app when your on wifi.
hope it helps a bit! and have a safe trip!
ptesmoke
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Problem is, that at least with German SIM-Cards, you need an adress here in germany ti register the card to your name. Austria and GB have "3" as a network operator. AFAIK they have a sim-card with no roaming fees where "3" is available as a network.
Hi,
I'll be going through europe this summer. The suggestion of getting a local PAYG sim is good, on the face of it. Unless you are going to be in that country for just a few days (as I will be) then, perhaps, it is more aggravation to get the sims than pay roaming.
A sim from Germany - if it was to include some country roaming - from either O2 or T-Mobile or even Voda - may be an answer.
Very much depends on how long you will be in each country I guess.
A week+ stay in each country, and a sim from each country when you get there could week prove to be your way forward.
Des. . .
HI,
This is worth a read. Gives you some idea as to prices and amounts:
Roaming Data Charges - UK Accounts...
Des. . .
As far as band compatibility, the important thing is that your phone is compatible with the bands used in Europe. Looks like Europe uses the 900 and 1800 MHz GSM bands just about everywhere for voice, and UMTS 2100 for 3G. The G2 has GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900; and UMTS 1700/2100, 2100. So you're good to go as far as the hardware compatibility.
International sim card
Hello!
Have you ever heard about international sim cards? In my opinion is the best solution to save on roaming charges!
Personally I use WorldSIm, they have both a UK and US number in the same sim card and have free incoming calls in over 90 countries.
There are more like this in the market but I can only speak about what I already now and I'm very happy with.
Hope it helps!
Hi,
This thread is for Chinese or people who live in China. You can discuss problem related to the Chinese version of the phone.
In China we have the N7100/N7105 and N7102 versions
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If some of you get the problem "NOT REGISTERED ON NETWORK" after flashing a custom ROM here is the solution(thanks to zuleamu.
Well to be honest zuleamu found the solution but it was there all along on this thread from Ariza27->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918601
When you use Ariza27 solution don't be stiff and press the THANKS button.
Not a lot of Chinese users here.
Well, Chinese users usually prefer forums in Mandarin. I think the problems of the N7102 are pretty well documented in the N7102 thread. Any news if Samsung China has done anything to solve them?
hendrickchan said:
Well, Chinese users usually prefer forums in Mandarin.
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There is a lot of expat living in China(like me).
hendrickchan said:
I think the problems of the N7102 are pretty well documented in the N7102 thread. Any news if Samsung China has done anything to solve them?
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No news.
I bought N7100 at china i know it's nt real. so can I post my problem here?
Fyed said:
I bought N7100 at china i know it's nt real. so can I post my problem here?
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Well if you know it's a fake, there is not much we can do for you here.
I live in mainland China (Beijing) and own the GT-N7100; my unit is the international version from Hong Kong to be more precise.
The guy who sold the phone to me (a friend's friend...) said that it was lock-free and that I would be able to use any SIM card in it.
While it didn't matter too much at first, it does now. I bought a China Telecom SIM card hoping it would work but it doesn't seem to.
I don't know anything about phones to be honest, but I'm usually okay with electronics and gadgets and I've been playing around for a bit.
My problem is the following: When I scan for network, I am only able to find CMCC (China Mobile) and China Unicom networks. I tried changing some stuff in the settings and playing with the *#197328640# menu, following my friend's advice, but it didn't help.
Is that specific model incompatible with China Telecom networks and unable to use CDMA2000? (It's supposedly unlocked/sim free....)
My baseband version is N7100BUALI8 and the build number is JRO03C.N7100ZSALJ2.
As I said, I don't understand phones too well yet. I read those forums a bit but I'm still confused.
Is my modem not adapted to mobile networks in China? Do I need to change settings somewhere?
I didn't root the phone either by the way.
Please Haaaalp!
Hey, in reference to the China Telecom...I am not sure that you will be able to access that network, I am not sure about the technology that they use. I know that you can use EDGE with either China Mobile or China Unicom, but, I know that Telecom sometimes uses some lesser-known standards for 3G. I have never actually tried to use their GSM network, as over my 10 years here, I have never had access to it. I don't know how helpful that is...
I also use N7100 (International Unlocked Version) in Shanghai. I only have access to China Mobile (2G) and China Unicom (3G).
CDMA is not a GSM compatible technology.
Rooting only has to do with the file structure, nothing to do with the modem on the phone.
Anyways, I hope something I said helps.
TheWired said:
I live in mainland China (Beijing) and own the GT-N7100; my unit is the international version from Hong Kong to be more precise.
The guy who sold the phone to me (a friend's friend...) said that it was lock-free and that I would be able to use any SIM card in it.
While it didn't matter too much at first, it does now. I bought a China Telecom SIM card hoping it would work but it doesn't seem to.
I don't know anything about phones to be honest, but I'm usually okay with electronics and gadgets and I've been playing around for a bit.
My problem is the following: When I scan for network, I am only able to find CMCC (China Mobile) and China Unicom networks. I tried changing some stuff in the settings and playing with the *#197328640# menu, following my friend's advice, but it didn't help.
Is that specific model incompatible with China Telecom networks and unable to use CDMA2000? (It's supposedly unlocked/sim free....)
My baseband version is N7100BUALI8 and the build number is JRO03C.N7100ZSALJ2.
As I said, I don't understand phones too well yet. I read those forums a bit but I'm still confused.
Is my modem not adapted to mobile networks in China? Do I need to change settings somewhere?
I didn't root the phone either by the way.
Please Haaaalp!
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Cda9er is right above. China Telecom doesnt use GSM technology as long as i think as they are using CDMA for their network.
China mobile - GSM for 2G but TD-SCDMA for 3G
China Unicom - GSM for both 2G and 3G (Perfect for our internation GT-N7100)
China Telecom - CDMA for 2G and 3G (I think)
So you can either use 2G china mobile as i am using or use 3G from China Unicom. Hope this helps.
Hemant said:
Cda9er is right above. China Telecom doesnt use GSM technology as long as i think as they are using CDMA for their network.
China mobile - GSM for 2G but TD-SCDMA for 3G
China Unicom - GSM for both 2G and 3G (Perfect for our internation GT-N7100)
China Telecom - CDMA for 2G and 3G (I think)
So you can either use 2G china mobile as i am using or use 3G from China Unicom. Hope this helps.
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I'd like to thank both of you for clarifying that! Exactly the answer I was looking for.
I had the feeling that it had to do with the technology used by the different phone companies.
I've been with China Unicom for a year now but I find their connection very unreliable.
Their 3G plans are kind of expensive and the network has a lot of weak/blind spots... I'll probably resell this phone and get another one compatible with China Telecom.
Thanks for all the replies guys!
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TD-SCDMA is China mobile home grown 3G. You need their own phone to use their 3G and it's not as fast as the China Unicom. Normal N7100 won't have 3G on their network.
roymustafa said:
Hi everyone. I hope brothers from China will try the latest DMC1 firmware and tell us the xhanges, improvements or new features... By now it is aviable through Kies..
It is not for N7102, but for N7100ZCDMC1
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If anyone tried it please give us some feedback:good:
I'm going to stay in Guangzhou for a few months, looks like China Unicom is the only option. How much are the sim cards ?, I'm not too bothered about calls more interested in the mobile internet a few hundred MB should be ok.
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I'm going to stay in Guangzhou for a few months, looks like China Unicom is the only option. How much are the sim cards ?, I'm not too bothered about calls more interested in the mobile internet a few hundred MB should be ok.
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I pay 39RMB(6 USD)/month for 600MB of 3G and it includes some calls and sms(I don't know how many) but my wife pays 29RMB(4.60USD) and she has 360MB/3G and she make a lot of phone calls and sms and she never runs out.
Kremata said:
I pay 39RMB(6 USD)/month for 600MB of 3G and it includes some calls and sms(I don't know how many) but my wife pays 29RMB(4.60USD) and she has 360MB/3G and she make a lot of phone calls and sms and she never runs out.
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Sounds good, so I assume it's ok to purchase just a sim on it's own and do you have to pay upfront for the whole 12 months ?.
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Sounds good, so I assume it's ok to purchase just a sim on it's own and do you have to pay upfront for the whole 12 months ?.
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No need to pay 12 months in advance. But you need to go at China Unicom. If you buy a Sim card on these little shop you don't have 3G. You need to register with your passport at China Unicom.
Kremata said:
No need to pay 12 months in advance. But you need to go at China Unicom. If you buy a Sim card on these little shop you don't have 3G. You need to register with your passport at China Unicom.
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Ok that's great, so stay away from the small shops and goto a proper China Unicom store and remember to take my passport :good:
mug2k said:
Ok that's great, so stay away from the small shops and goto a proper China Unicom store and remember to take my passport :good:
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Actually the Sim cards from the little shops are not bad, but you will have to go to Unicom anyway to activate the 3G so it's better to go right away, sometimes they have specials.
N7105
What about N7105 which suppose to be a 4G LTE phone? Can N7105 get 3G or 4G data in China? Seems China Mobile Hong Kong has 4G LTE. Does China Mobile or other cell phone company in mainland China have 4G LTE?
I'm going to the UK at the end of the week and I want to buy a SIM for my Canadian Note 4 (N910W8). If I buy a SIM with O2, should I get the 3G or the 4G version? I am not sure if the 4G will work on this phone or not.
Alternatively, if any UK members can recommend something other than O2, I'm all ears. (I don't care that much about minutes, but SMS would be nice, data the priority).
Thanks.
Hi,
EE or Vodafone look like your best shot at using 4G here in the UK. Details of the bands the different operators use can be found here:
http://www.4g.co.uk/4g-networks/
I got the phone band specs from here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4-6434.php
Wooba99 said:
I'm going to the UK at the end of the week and I want to buy a SIM for my Canadian Note 4 (N910W8). If I buy a SIM with O2, should I get the 3G or the 4G version? I am not sure if the 4G will work on this phone or not.
Alternatively, if any UK members can recommend something other than O2, I'm all ears. (I don't care that much about minutes, but SMS would be nice, data the priority).
Thanks.
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If you're only here for a short period of time, you might want to try GiffGaff (https://giffgaff.com/). They use the O2 infrastructure, but have better packages for short term use (they call them 'goodybags'). Not sure if they've got 4G available as yet, but 3G is generally quite good from what recent users have told me.
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mourui313 said:
I'm from BESTBUY to buy 306SH, but not in USA activated by SPRINT has sent to China signal, I want to use 3G or 4G LTE in the China Telecom's CDMA network, but to insert the SIM card can not identify, who are willing to help me to activate the machine? Must be in the activation of SPRINT can change the card or the first activation solution network lock, to use? SPRINT to me this kind of customers, whether to provide unlocking service?
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Hi, I can confirm that even you have it UICC unlocked, it won't work with China Mobile/Unicom/Telecom.
Service status will be SEARCHING always.
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You'd better do some research before your purchase
mourui313 said:
I'm from BESTBUY to buy 306SH, but not in USA activated by SPRINT has sent to China signal, I want to use 3G or 4G LTE in the China Telecom's CDMA network, but to insert the SIM card can not identify, who are willing to help me to activate the machine? Must be in the activation of SPRINT can change the card or the first activation solution network lock, to use? SPRINT to me this kind of customers, whether to provide unlocking service?
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Sprint could unlock the phone for oversea use only for their customer and the phone need to be activated with Sprint at least 30 days. I am afraid we couldn't help you.
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wuyiL said:
Sprint could unlock the phone for oversea use only for their customer and the phone need to be activated with Sprint at least 30 days. I am afraid we couldn't help you.
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I tried to contact sprint customer service, They told even their phone is unlocked, they still can not use other carrier's sim card. BUT as we can see sprint iphone 6 and 6+ are oversea unlocked in China, and supporting China Mobile TD-LTE bands( Band 38 ,41).
Let's see this phone, when I got into the hidden menu, I figured out that 306sh is support TD-LTE band 41, That's means if it is oversea unlocked (like iPhone 6 example). It is possible that 306sh also is oversea unlocked, the best carrier for support 306sh is China Mobile (TD-LTE), China Telecom (CDMA 1X, CDMA ev-do REV A, TDD-LTE, FDD -LTE), Softbank (Japan FDD-LTE, TDD-LTE, HSPA+).
I ll try take it to have a oversea test. Let's wait.
According to your saying, technically we could unlock it to use in China and Japan.
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According to your saying, technically we could unlock it to use in China and Japan.
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In theory, I have to say it could be oversea unlocked. However, if we want to use the phone oversea. We have to concern about two issues.
First, the phone had better be unactivated. I am not sure we can use a CDMA phone burned some carriers information on abroad. So an unactivated aquos is more likely can be used oversea.
Second, If we use china mobile's network, I don't think the phone can make a call. that because, china mobile is a gsm carriers, they do not support CDMA phone. Only thing we can use from china mobile is their TD-LTE network. So if we insert CMCC sim card, the phone will become a web only phone that is unable to make a call. Or if China Mobile has VoLTE technology. On the other hand, China Telecom's network will be a best choice for 306sh. Cauz China Telecom's 2g 3g 4g network is exactly same with Sprint network. Let's see, softbank. the situation is a little bit similar with China Mobile. Softbank also is a GSM carrier, but Softbank they do not have 2G network, about 10 year ago, Japan closed all their 2G network, that's means, Softbank do not have GSM GPRS and EDGE. for replacement, they have WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE, so aquos also is very suitable to Softbank in Japan.
Let's waiting for the test.
看完我只想说楼主傻逼
尼玛是不是末宝店主 还是什么脑残用google翻译
淘宝店主倒也有心可原
不过这英语真是有点坑了啊
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不过这英语真是有点坑了啊
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This is a an English forum, I do not understand why you guys type Chinese at here.
I am joining in the discussion is to try to help people who have this kinda phones in China. On the other hand, I dont think it is a good place for us to critical whose English is better than others. If you guys have some good ideas why dont you post them in English not Chinese on the forum to let people from all over world to know thus we can root the phone earlier. Anyway I can get high speed 4G LTE internet service in states, I dont care how it works in China. The reason why I join the discussion is try to help you guys. Our goal is to root the phone, let do it, we can made it.
Dave E said:
This is a an English forum, I do not understand why you guys type Chinese at here.
I am joining in the discussion is to try to help people who have this kinda phones in China. On the other hand, I dont think it is a good place for us to critical whose English is better than others. If you guys have some good ideas why dont you post them in English not Chinese on the forum to let people from all over world to know thus we can root the phone earlier. Anyway I can get high speed 4G LTE internet service in states, I dont care how it works in China. The reason why I join the discussion is try to help you guys. Our goal is to root the phone, let do it, we can made it.
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i have tried to write a unlock SIM card. but it dont work on China-Unicom(a GSM/WCDMA/LTE network Operator) ,i can make phonecalls to others, but cant receive phonecalls. i want to make 305sh use GSM ONLY,i tried *#*#4636#*#* it cant set GSM ONLY. can any other way to set GSM ＯＮＬＹ？ ｔｈａｎｋｓ
It's early but I'm possibly relocating to Shanghai and currently have an AT&T phone I'm considering picking up at 6P but not sure my options in regards to sim cards and such over seas and there's no better place to ask than XDA. Thank you in advance for helping!
Hey, in case you still need info: I read that Huawei partnered with AT&T and China Telecom on the 6P, but you might want to double-check if there were separate releases. China Mobile and China Telecom often use a China-developed variant of network standards. In my case, I got China Mobile SIMs that stranded me on only EDGE networks, on my Nexus 7 2013 (LTE) tablet and an older Motorola Defy+ (3G/HSDPA). China Telecom even told me to go to China Unicom. You'll find most foreigners using China Unicom, partly because you can use your imported mobile no problem.
That said, if you buy a 6P in the Huawei store, or directly at one of the service providers, you'll of course have no problem.
I'm editing this to put the important thing I wrote at the top as well:
go to willmyphonework.net and select all types of nexus 6P (only 2 types) and all types of networks (only three types). You will see what sort of network coverage you get - I love that site so much.
I am by no means an expert in this area.
But I am using the 6P in Beijing and I am quite happy with my choice. However, I don't find visiting Phone stores etc easy - perhaps Shanghai will have more access to English speakers than Beijing... I have heard that some of my colleagues (non-tech) are now finding success with Xiaomi, one plus, and Huawei directly putting google services on their phones. I still end up assisting most who can't afford the iphone option and need google flashed onto their android devices.
2 things I have noted.
1. I was warned about it prior to buying, but did not fully understand. You need to follow a couple of processes to remove the problematic exclamation mark/wifi issue. You will have wifi, but it will be annoying each time to manually enter new networks each time until you do this.
2. If you root and flash new ROMS - unless you have internet access that has been redirected or vpn'ed (I don't know correct terminology, sorry) at the router level, you'll get stuck at the scanning for networks stage of device setup. You can't skip the network set up either. You just stare at a 'this will take 2 minutes' for eternity.... The fix is to find a network - like starbucks or some other western type of router set up. Then it allows you to skip the network initial set up.
I don't use China unicom, but that's because when I arrived in China 6 years ago, they sucked in terms of phone coverage. They are much better now apparently, but I have my china mobile number, and I don't really feel the need to change my set up.
If you have any worries about your phone working and which network to use, go to willmyphonework.net and select all types of nexus 6P (only 2 types) and all types of networks (only three types). You will see what sort of network coverage you get - I love that site so much.
Have fun in Shanghai! and you know ... Don't get Shanghaied
You will not get China Mobile and China Unicom LTE access with the US variant of N6P because of the lack of bands. With the international variant I have, you are free to roam the country and nearly all bands are covered. Sadly, no mainland China store will sell the N6P, unless you're willing to go to the chaotic imported phone market and seek for one - it's recommended that you get it through your US importers.
And yes, like said above, you need to root and do some (easy) steps to prevent the WiFi exclamation mark from showing up, otherwise your phone will refuse to automatically connect to WiFi even if the hotspot does have internet access.
Andy, thank you again for your advice and help in regards to the wifi problem.
USF guy, as for buying from taobao (online store) or markets, it might be fraught with difficulty for non-Chinese. My suggestion is to buy from as official as you can. Buy in HK is a good option.
The reason is because you just don't know what your getting from online sellers. For example, on my last travel to Guanzhou, I stumbled accross a phone market that was six blocks wide and long and sold every imaginable mobile phone internal and external. I very much doubt it is the only market of its kind in guangzhou and China. Simply, I don't think it would be too difficult to buy and make and sell counterfeit devices - and honestly, you might find it best to just pay the extra 400 rmb that gives you peace of mind.
You're very right about that kind of market - they might not sell fake devices these days, but the source and originality (i.e. not disassembled or no replaced parts) are questionable at best.
However, buying from HK will give you a charger that's unusable in mainland unless you purchase an adaptor separately. The only genuine option is from Taiwan, where an int'l variant is sold with mainland-compatible charger. If @USFguy is willing to arrange a trip there this would be a feasible solution. If not, then the only partially reliable one is to try and find one through US importers - at least they're more reliable than Taobao.
P.S. My own Taiwan N6P is bought on Taobao. There are many trusted importers out there, and for a device this new and this unpopular in China, there's no motivation for counterfeit.
Well, not exactly. There is one band working.
Tried Project Fi (using China Unicom) and China Mobile, most times you can still get LTE outside, otherwise, Edge you know.
I was in Shanghai last Christmas and purchased a pre-paid SIM card from China Mobile, it works fine. I also tested UniCom or China Telecom using my friends' sim card, Nexus 6P works fine with all of them: 4G LTE.