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This might not be completely Wizard related, but thats what I have so I'll shoot. I was wondering if anyone had any idea on where to start looking for an ap to view Video Feeds from Security Cameras that are normally accessed via a Java Applet in IE. Like is there possibly a Java app that can display a feed that would be seerate of PIE? Maybe a program that can be changed or slightly modified?
The provider/manufacturer of the equipment doesn't offer anything. Their newer equipment uses ActiveX Controls rather than Java so maybe an upgrade could help? Any ideas/help would be appreciated.
The Company has a Demo of the Java Applet that is used to view the feeds. Same as we use for the bar but we only have 9 feeds. Viewing one feed at a time would be perfectly fine and probaly desired on the smaller screen.
See the demo here...
http://208.50.31.214/ Java VM Page. Login for the Demo is admin : admin
Any Ideas??
Cliffs: Can anyone think of a way to view the feeds in the demo above on a PPC? Java VM related...
ANy good places to go for Java related resources for the WM5? I would like to at least play around with it. Maybe try to tweak and work up a different solution. Any help would be appreciated.
pookrat said:
Maybe try to tweak and work up a different solution. Any help would be appreciated.
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I'd just hold out for a real browser than can display your java-based feed. Never fear, one's coming...
See: Skyfire.
Take a look: http://webcam-holmes.en.softonic.com/pocket
If your desired feed is actually a "Webcam" then this might be the ticket for you...
SkyFire looks promising. Can't wait to get my hands on a copy. Maybe a Beta a little early?
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Maybe a Beta a little early?
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Good luck. I think they've passed them all out already, and the licenses are utterly non-transferable, so any beta copies that have been shared out have been unusable by anyone but the authorized recipient.
There's a thread on this board (somewhere, you search...I don't want to) that includes a copy. Your mileage may vary, but I don't think anyone's been able to use it yet.
One last note of caution: Skyfire's license agreement clearly states that they can, if they wish, capture all data transferred to and from (this includes keystrokes, BTW) websites. Privacy on their browser is not reality. This means, for example, if your camera feed was providing illicit or illegal images (like a voyeur cam in a public restroom, for example), they can, and presumably will, point the finger at you. This may change in the future, but hey, they've gotta protect themselves, if they're acting as a go-between for the web and dirty, untrustworthy end-users.
pookrat said:
This might not be completely Wizard related, but thats what I have so I'll shoot. I was wondering if anyone had any idea on where to start looking for an ap to view Video Feeds from Security Cameras that are normally accessed via a Java Applet in IE. Like is there possibly a Java app that can display a feed that would be seerate of PIE? Maybe a program that can be changed or slightly modified?
The provider/manufacturer of the equipment doesn't offer anything. Their newer equipment uses ActiveX Controls rather than Java so maybe an upgrade could help? Any ideas/help would be appreciated.
The Company has a Demo of the Java Applet that is used to view the feeds. Same as we use for the bar but we only have 9 feeds. Viewing one feed at a time would be perfectly fine and probaly desired on the smaller screen.
See the demo here...
http://208.50.31.214/ Java VM Page. Login for the Demo is admin : admin
Any Ideas??
Cliffs: Can anyone think of a way to view the feeds in the demo above on a PPC? Java VM related...
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Most Java VM's for Windows Mobile are not robust enough to handle Java webcams. At least that's been my experience. I have a Toshiba IK-WB11A webcam in my house. It also uses Java and I've tried PIE, Opera, Minimo, and other WM browsers - none will work.
The only work around I'm aware of is to deconstruct the Java Script to see where / how the webcam is streaming the "video". I was able to do that by loading up and opening all the HTML pages that my webcam served to my PC browser (Firefox > View > Page Source). Typically the video stream is in fact just a JPG that's refreshed every fraction of a second. Once you identify the JPG path / name you can open it directly. Or if you're ambitious you could create your own simple HTML page, add the JPG image, and add some code to auto-refresh in PIE. Something like this code should do the trick...
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="10;url=http://path/to/my/image/page.html"/>
Ok I am looking for the same thing mate and doing a little search for web goodies to work on the phone . If anybody has any ideas or software let us know.
http://www.getjar.com/products/11112/QSpyCam
http://www.getjar.com/products/13204/LiveStream
wyzepro said:
http://www.getjar.com/products/11112/QSpyCam
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Nice link I will test it out .
Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere. I searched for a while and couldn't find it.
I don't know if this matters, but I'm using Open Touch 4.0 biggie (it's awesome!). Anyway, I'm trying to figure out how to make IE Mobile go to the regular versions of Web sites rather than trying the mobile versions by default. for example, I'm trying to listen to the audio stream at a local sports talk radio station (not sure if I can post links, but the domain is 670thescoredotcom), and by default IE puts "mobile" instead of "www", which doesn't exist. I can't figure out how to point the browser at the regular site. It's probably a simple fix or toggle that I'm missing. Any help would be appreciated.
i sugest looking for another browser like opera mobile or something
PIE is maybe the worst browser on wm
I'm not sure it is the browser doing that
some websites actually have code that checks what browser you are using, and then redirects you to the appropriate pages.....they also check for things like javascript, flash, etc.
if it doesn't know what type of browser you have or what it supports, you usually get sent to the regular site....
but i think internet explorer mobile identifies itself as such, so then the website actually redirects you
i may be wrong but i believe that is how browsing is handled by the webservers for different client types
so i have been thinking about my homes security and i have some questions...
i have collected quite a few expensive gadgets and they need protection!
So, i have been tinkering with my **** logitech orb web cam and it now supports motion detection. now call me crazy but i would like to be able to receive on my diamond, the video that has been recorded by a motion detection enabled web cam set up in my home. i'm trying to get my logitech web cam to save on my HP media smart server, running windows home server, not default on my laptop, and be notified by either sms that there is new video on my server or the video itself sent to my diamond. i would also like to be able to connect remotely to my laptop and be able to activate the camera software from a desktop link or something like that.
now i swear this is diamond related in the fact that i would like to use the device as a controller.
i have not used remote desktop on my diamond yet, i could not get it working.
i'm not sure if this is a app request, idea, or util so ill follow the forum template rules once this thread takes shape.
please shed some light on how one could make this happen. i think it could be useful to all of us, at home or place of business or your just want to bust your stupid parents snooping around your room.
so you are looking for an app that does the following:
act as webcam streaming server, but only when motion is detected, and when it does detect motion, it must notify you via sms, plus: you need a simple app for youre diamond to vie the stream..
i dont think I would be able to do this, but if you can clarify exacly what you want thinking WITH you is more easy...
on the other hand, i am sure the pc part has already some usefull apliactions wich are able to act as a server. but im not sure about the notification sms..
it would be ideal if that sms contained a link that you follow to open youre browser to view the stream...
what i know what is possible, there are apps for the pc that record video and send it via e-mail...
just use google for webcam security..
maybe there are pplz around here that can adapt software for u...
but i u seach im sure there are apps out there wich can do that... the only app you need is a browser capable of viewing video streams..
Would be good an app who detect movement, and then make several actions:
- Upload a photo/video on an FTP
- Save photo/video
- Play an AUDIO alarm
- Send an mms with the photo/video
- Send a warning sms
- Make a call (and let you listen what's happening)
....all when Movement is detected via the pda camera
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What you are trying to accomplish is mostly already possible. You'll need to do some research and some creative thinking to get it to work though. You will most likely not get an all-in-one solution to this issue.
It sounds to me like the motion detection and subsequent video capture is already taking place via the software you have installed for your web cam.
Basically you need two things: A way to be notified of a new video file and a way to view it.
I'm not aware of any existing application which will send an email (which can arrive as an SMS) based on a new file being created in a directory, but as a programmer I can asure you there's not much to it.
There are however many solutions which would allow you to view a video file on your WM device from you computer at home and remote desktop is not the way to go here. Your best bet is probably good old http since most video applications will handle "streaming" to file to you as you watch. You'll need to familiarize yourself with IIS (Internet Information Server; I'm assuming you're using Windows) and create a "virtual directory" pointing at the folder where the video files arrive. You'll also need to take the necessary steps to open port 80 so that your computer at home can host via http (this means configuring your router and your computer's firewall). Once this is done just pick your favorite video player and choose "open URL" or something similar and type in http://YourExternalIP/YourVirtualDirectory/YourVideoFile.
I'll leave it up to you to figure out how to best make yourself aware of new files.
As LucidObscurity says there already are several solutions available to this through the combination of existing discrete applications, although .
My setup does does what you desire although goes quite a bit further so it may be overkill for your requirements. However, as food for thought it may still be of interest. It consists of:
- A series of Panasonic BL-C1 IP cameras distributed around my house (running on the wired house network, although wireless versions are available) - these are quite discrete cameras and don't have the typical 'camera look' hence are aesthetically compatible with partners, guests etc (most people I've pointed them out to hadn't noticed them and then didn't believe they were cameras)
- The motion detection/analysis software ZoneMinder - the 'brains' - this monitors the cameras, detects motion (in zoned areas) and records the events as required (it buffers the images so you can capture what happened before the trigger too)
- The SMS tool MercurySMS (and VGSMail gateway) used to alert me via text when motion has been detected (the texts contain various event-related details/stats and a link to the recording)
- A handful of other scripts used for small housekeeping tasks e.g. scheduling the starting/stopping of the system, realtime offsite backup of recorded material (there's no point me capturing a thief on video if he then goes an nicks my PC!), etc
- My Diamond, or any other device with a web browser, used to interface with the system - controlling/configuring it, accessing live/recorded video etc. A web front end is essential in my opinion - you don't want to tie access down to a single platform/device.
Whilst it's not a setup that is up-and-running out of the box now that's it's fully configured it works well - very well. False alarms are practically nill and it doesn't miss a thing. Remote access via the web is powerful and as simple/complicated as you want - on holiday my girlfriend regularly fires up the quick 'snapshot' montage to keep an eye on our cats (we do have a dedicated 'catcam' monitoring the catflap so we can see the history of who came in/out and when).
I'm sure there are some all-in-one solutions available but they likely come at a cost and perhaps do not have the power and flexibility of a modularised solution - it'd be worth seeing what's available though.
Mathew
thanks for all your replies. great read.
i just want all my systems, Windows Home Server, Vista Home Pro and WM6.1 to come together. i will take a look into the apps you have linked to and see whats what.
i already have the ability to record with motion detection. when a new file is created in a folder on my home server, i want to be notified and linked to or streamed. i have remote access to my file via browser [ blazeitup123.homeserver.com ]. i can't get the logitech software to actually save to the server because it says i dont have the rights. i'll try and fix that tonight after dinner, but saving to the server is very improtant because my laptop could be stolen and then the whole setup was pointless. i want to incorperate my diamond into this process as much as possible, like with the remote activation and so on.
Wooow this is one of the coolest threads I read in a long time.
Although I'm not as advanced as some of the members regarding computing, I was thinking:
-Cam software streaming to remote address.
-When motion is detected, cam starts recording, thus creating movement in the remote address.
-When new connection(movement) is detected, you activate a new RSS feed.
-You get RSS notification on phone.
-Connect to remote address and check the stream.
What about:
A spy cam on the Diamond, I mean that you could hide your phone somewhere and point it at a certain spot you want to view. Then remotely access the phone and view the live stream?
Since the phone is so small its an easy hide.
Greetings to all and luck in all your great projects!
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
Looks good. I've also found Wapcam
(Seems to alert via e-mail to you could use either push e-mail or an email-to-SMS gateway for instant alerts)
Mathew
shogunmark said:
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
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looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Blazeitup123 said:
looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Perhaps you should invest in a big dog.
I m using this one:
http://www.accordiva.com/
U have there SecuRanger 2 Support 4 video channels
or one Camera only: SecuExpress 2
SecuExpress 2
both come with WM application for remote / viewing etc..
Take a look at orb.com. It has the ability to sms or email you if it detects movement. You could then connect to your home webcam through the phone's' browser.
...a good spy, like a 007 , should be able to SPY also without his PC
The only one that i've found is Invisible Shooter... for symbian os there are a lot of those apps (no pc needed), but for the pda there aren't many... (see the post #3)
Hi,
I'm developing a simple application for my winmobile phone,
the application is to controll (for now) winamp with the phone.
(Also gonna add support for other apps).
I got tired of not being able to controll it from anywhere in my appartment,
so i started developing this solution.
Now i search some info on how to make a simple Today plugin for my app,
so that you don't have to have the full gui open all the time..
Anyone who has some good links for some tutorials?
(I code in c#)
Screenshots is attached.
If people here want's the apps, then let me know..
Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445396
Lots of links for information on how to do things.
hedphelym said:
Hi,
I'm developing a simple application for my winmobile phone,
the application is to controll (for now) winamp with the phone.
(Also gonna add support for other apps).
I got tired of not being able to controll it from anywhere in my appartment,
so i started developing this solution.
Now i search some info on how to make a simple Today plugin for my app,
so that you don't have to have the full gui open all the time..
Anyone who has some good links for some tutorials?
(I code in c#)
Screenshots is attached.
If people here want's the apps, then let me know..
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Today screen plugins can only be done in native code, so c++. But there is a wrapper for .net. Kinda old though.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms839442.aspx
There is this http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms879585.aspx for info too. In some of their examples they have a today screen plugin. here
Also here is a bunch of info
http://www.pocketpcdn.com/sections/today.html
hedphelym said:
Hi,
I'm developing a simple application for my winmobile phone,
the application is to controll (for now) winamp with the phone.
(Also gonna add support for other apps).
I got tired of not being able to controll it from anywhere in my appartment,
so i started developing this solution.
Now i search some info on how to make a simple Today plugin for my app,
so that you don't have to have the full gui open all the time..
Anyone who has some good links for some tutorials?
(I code in c#)
Screenshots is attached.
If people here want's the apps, then let me know..
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try this ManagedTodayScreen
Hey guys, I've had an Alpine for a while now, and after moving around devices i've found myself using it again, primarily due to the fact it's now mounted to my wrist (if anyone here is a fallout fan, you know what i mean )
I've always thought of developing software for it, but never really got round to it, or had the time to learn any form of programming.
However, I do have a lot of knowledge in HTML, PHP and Java, and I want to try and come up with something browser based for my Alpine, and possibly even yours!
So, I have Opera Mini 5 set as my default browser, but that doesn't set it as default when opening local .html files sadly, therefore i'm going to try stick to the default Internet Explorer, therefore if anybody know's the spec's for the version of Internet Explorer built into the device, what languages and scripts it supports, ways to get it to display more like a real application (any ways to remove the bottom/top bar, getting it to display fullscreen) or any other details, and if anybody can contribute feel free to share ideas or code here.
--On a side note, i'm starting a website specifically for Alpine software/roms/support, so if you own one, you might want to check it out, i need contributers, link should be in my signature.
Thanks in advance
It will also be useful to know the display size for internet explorer on the Alpine, as in the pixels the browser window displays
NTpspE, use UcWeb. It can be set as default browser.
I like opera, it's fast and keeps my bookmarks synchronised with my computer, but that's not what this thread is about. I'm wanting to know the specs for the default internet explorer in order to see if i can develop any useful localised web apps for the apline.