Why dont they make a flash tool that plugs into your micro usb port or replaces the battery cover, so we can finally take pictures with a flash?
I dont believe this would be too hard..would it?
Using flash takes away all shades and your pictures will look like 2D drawings. Applies to any camera off course
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I dont believe this would be too hard..would it?
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It would, as the USB port can't give any power.
Just get yourself a keychain flashlight... or even better, a camera.
darfri said:
Using flash takes away all shades and your pictures will look like 2D drawings. Applies to any camera off course
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhh?
darfri said:
Using flash takes away all shades and your pictures will look like 2D drawings. Applies to any camera off course
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That is the biggest crock of S*** I've heard in a while. I guess all of those professional photographers who use flashes are wrong, huh?
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That is the biggest crock of S*** I've heard in a while. I guess all of those professional photographers who use flashes are wrong, huh?
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Which is better, a less than ideal photo (and I'm not a photographer so cant confirm the effects) or a far to dark/totally black photo?
I know NOTHING of programing these phones, but from a mechanical stand point, I'm not too bad. Is there anyway to trigger something out the USB port when the camera is ready to pop? Something so that the light doesn't have to be on constantly, but can come on only when the camera is ready to snap, like a standard digital camera works? I can probably fab up a back cover with a flash built into it...
Why is this an issue? I fail to see any correlation at all between the equipment used by a professional photographer, and the convenience of a simple 3MP snapshot camera included in your phone. You were given a suggestion that addressed your problem and apparently you were quite upset by it. So, my turn... This IS NOT a 10 - 12 MP Canon, Nikon or Leica! Its to snap a quick shot of something for later reference - an event, a schedule, a location, a photographic note, if you will. The camera in your phone is not the primary device or function of your phone - its an 'added function' that can be effectively used as intended, or complained about by those that can't fully appreciate its capabilities!
Oh, and those professional cameras listed above don't make or receive phone calls, don't have e-mail or voicemail capabilities, don't play my mp3s or videos, can't use wifi to browse the internet or for online banking or for etc., store GBs of data other than pics & video, function as a gps unit, open or edit my Office docs, use text messaging, or play a myriad of games! And yet they cost from $699 to $999 apiece! How do those manufacturers' sleep at night? And you won't find a forum for support anything near as intense and complete as the XDA-Developer's Forum - all for what you can afford to donate!
Now I don't mean to preach, so here's examples: instead of a daily to-do or task list, I can take a quick series of photos to remind me! Pix of ATM card to remind me to go to the bank, of a loaf of bread or carton of milk to remind me to hit the grocery store, of the Suburban's front end to call for an appointment to get the front-end aligned, of the dog to remember his vet appointment, and of a document I need to complete by end-of-business! Those pix are worth a thousand words, and the time it would take to write detailed notes to myself! Then simply delete photos as tasks are completed! Too cool! At the store over lunch and see a new Sony LCD HDTV you like? Take a photo of it, along with the pertinent sales tag info, and research it later at home on the internet! Meet someone you haven't seen in a while? Take a photo to remind yourself to tell the wife that night, with that picture to enhance your tale! Need to match paint for a room in the house with the colors of the furnishings or rugs? Take a series of pictures with you to the hardware store. Take a photo of a suspicious vehicle 'just in case'? An accident, a surprise event, a crime or disaster? You at least have the camera in your phone - its way better than no camera at all. For your 'Keepsake Memories' get a decent camera, complete with a flash!
Hope this helps put things in perspective for you.
BTW, this was a rant - not a discussion or an argument, so keep your opinions to yourself. I've said what I wanted to say!
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When I started this thread I did not intend it to go out of control. I was just wondering if anyone knew where to get one or how to make one.
This is more along the lines of what I was looking for, except for the Kaiser instead of the iPhone: http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/snaptureflash-gives-iphone-makeshift-camera-flash
I think a new back cover that has a built in flash would be awesome. If someone makes one, and it works, I'll certainly buy one.
I think about how much I miss my flash on my old phone all the time. That was a huge blunder leaving it off the Kaiser. Even if you never use a flash on your pictures, it was a handy flashlight. But it was certainly nice to have a flash for pictures too.
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When I started this thread I did not intend it to go out of control. I was just wondering if anyone knew where to get one or how to make one.
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Don't worry, the thread isn't 'out of control' you just need to take heed of what kilrah has already posted. The USB port on the Kaiser isn't a host port so it doesn't (and cannot be made to) behave like an ordinary USB port on your PC (well not without some serious electronic redesign work far beyond what we as non phone designer sorts could come up with). Other options must be investigated.
Was the USB comment directed at me? I was just wondering if there was a way to trigger the flash 'remotely'.
as for some sort of add on flash, my dad has made several LED units, self contained, that fit in a 3/4 inch copper pipe cap. Mostly made of brass, it includes a switch and is heavy. He used it as a night lite for something like 7 days str8 on a single 2032 battery. Granted, it is not sleak, but it was self contained.
The main problem with a 'flash' is that the camera app wouldn't be able to process the picture any faster (focus on it and make adjustments for light) before snapping it because the camera app wouldn't know that a flash would be coming soon to compensate for a flash... unless we have a camera programer in our midsts? Or, can a camera app be ported from a flash enabled device, or do the OEM flashes stay on as long as a flash is called for, so there is no 'compensation' per se?
I am getting ready to purchase a TyTN II parts phone, I'll have to see what I can do with it. I've got a few ideas up my sleave. Does anyone have what the Proprietary USB B port pin out is, both sides of the tongue?
if anyone makes this invention i will gladly buy it from them ASAP
Heh, I've started working on it... at this point, I'm not working on making it interface with the camera, it will have an external switch and be something you turn on when you want it, and could also be used as a flashlight to light your way in the dark...
I am also toying with having it light up when ever the camera is in use, but I need to find a dead kaiser (the phone I own, so the phone I'm developing for) in order to work on some sort of interface for automatic operation...
Anybody got a Kaiser with a crushed screen and case that I could tinker with? *grins*
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I think a new back cover that has a built in flash would be awesome. If someone makes one, and it works, I'll certainly buy one.
I think about how much I miss my flash on my old phone all the time. That was a huge blunder leaving it off the Kaiser. Even if you never use a flash on your pictures, it was a handy flashlight. But it was certainly nice to have a flash for pictures too.
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I used the flash on my S710 as NIGHT LIGHT all of the time. I think an external flash able to slide in an touch the battery contacts would be cool. Een if you had to turn on the light by a little switch built into the back cover. 5V should be MORE than enough power to light up maybe 3-5 small LED lights. Even if they werent connected to the cam directly, im sure it would help a lot in low light situations. Just my 2 cents I like this idea
I am in the process of comunicating with LED suppliers, and will begin mocking something up here in the coming weeks... I'll keep you posted.
A couple of questions for potential users... What is better, to make a cradle to slip the phone into, to make the components fit completely with in the format of the phone now, or to make the phone slightly larger (like an extended battery pack)?
The advantage of a craddle is that it can be put on and removed fairly quickly... Downside is that it would be hardest for me to make... (grins)
The advantage of the lights fitting within the format of the phone now is that you don't have to have something extra, or an extra large phone, to carry around. Perimatly mounted, and ready to go at all times... the down side is reduced performance because of no extra batteries, and possibly fewer LEDs, and the fact that the owner of the phone would possibly have the hardest time installing it.
The advantage of an extended battery type back cover is that you can get extended battery usage (by use of separate batteries for the LEDs), and nice balance between easy on/easy off and size... the downside is that the phone would be slightly larger, and you would have to carry the extra back cover if you didn't always want the phone bigger, but wanted the option for a flash.
The cradle idea would be the most expensive by far, and quite probably out of my reach at this time.
The extended back and original size formate are going to be fairly close in price I have the feeling.
The extended back will probably be the easiest to build, but personally, I'd rather not use that style.
So, what do _YOU_ think?
I think Mag light and all problems solved
Seems alot to do for a camera that isn't very good anyway, but good enough for snapshots.............. After all it's not an SLR..............
The best one, in my opinion, would be an entirely new battery cover that had LED lights mounted in it, and was not any bigger than the original battery cover.
Something that is permanently mounted, and basically a part of the phone, and not making the phone any bigger (it's already a brick). Maybe a little larger than the regular battery cover, but not a lot. Hopefully not enough to notice. I'm not worried about battery life as this would only get used for a few minutes every day (at the most).
I don't know if that is even possible, but if it is, I'll take 4 of them.
Nobody ever uses an external GPS receiver, so maybe the stuff could go in right there?
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I think Mag light and all problems solved
Seems alot to do for a camera that isn't very good anyway, but good enough for snapshots.............. After all it's not an SLR..............
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Yes, a maglite would work... but I take many photos with my camera when I can't put both hands in position to illuminate the subject and hit the shutter... I go to the car salvage yard alot, and if I can't see a part good enough from my vantage point, I'll hold my phone up and snap a picture from there to see if it is worth digging for, for example.
As for it not being an SLR, MOST digitial cameras are NOT slr... and MOST people do not shell out tons of money for an SLR. If you don't like the camera phone, that's fine... you can carry a second item. For the rest of us, we'd like to improve on a decent useable camera, so we will, Thank you.
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The best one, in my opinion, would be an entirely new battery cover that had LED lights mounted in it, and was not any bigger than the original battery cover.
Something that is permanently mounted, and basically a part of the phone, and not making the phone any bigger (it's already a brick). Maybe a little larger than the regular battery cover, but not a lot. Hopefully not enough to notice. I'm not worried about battery life as this would only get used for a few minutes every day (at the most).
I don't know if that is even possible, but if it is, I'll take 4 of them.
Nobody ever uses an external GPS receiver, so maybe the stuff could go in right there?
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Hehehe, my wife never uses her GPS at all, but I use an antenna adapter from Wilson Electronics along with a mini whip antenna with a magnetic mount... it go from 1-2 bars on a bad day (with TomTom Navigator 6), to a full count of 5 bars... unplug the antenna, and it goes back down, plug it back in, and it bounces back up...
I've looked into using that area, but it really doesn't afford much in the way of space, and I'm not too keen on modifying the original fabric of the phone itself, it just doesn't seem 'right' to me.
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today i tried my friends iphone 3gs screen i zoomed a picture and moved my fingre on the screen and then stopped with my fingure still on the screen ,the iphone screen begens to shiver like what is happening on hd2 ,much more less but it shivers so i think this is a common capastive screens issues . i will post videos when i meet my friend again and take video of his i phone as this issue does not always happen
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I get that too - and the sensitivity of the screen and whether it works is also affected by where I stand, and on what materials.
Tried to use HD2 next to refrigerator+light system today and an internal communication transmitter and the screen just wouldnt respond until I walked a couple of feet away - coincidence??? perhaps, perhaps not.
i get the shivver more when i use my finger tip instead of the finger pad. I suspect it is to do with the conductance being different on the tip.
i just sent mine back for repair because of this! in the cold screen jitter got so bad i couldnt select links whilst browsing! lets hope they loose my phone so i get a new one! lol!
sometimes i wish there was a decent alternative to HTC
has anyone noticed that shiver on i phone like what i noticed on my friends one
That's a common "issue" with all capacitive screens - including the iPhone's of course.
yes, i shouldve said that i first saw it on an iphone2G.
I think it is less noticeable though due to tighter spacing of the dots or just simply that it is a smaller panel...but it's still there.
Perhaps 4.3" is a bit too big!!! lol
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yes, i shouldve said that i first saw it on an iphone2G.
I think it is less noticeable though due to tighter spacing of the dots or just simply that it is a smaller panel...but it's still there.
Perhaps 4.3" is a bit too big!!! lol
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good news that it is not only hd2 issue ,i was going to send my hd2 for repair
Id be interested to see a video of the HD2 and iphone doing it as i cannot make my HD2 do it at all??
Capacitive screens work with electrostatic fields in my understanding, maybe peoples electrostatic field who experience this is somehow different?? Who knows.... ??
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Id be interested to see a video of the HD2 and iphone doing it as i cannot make my HD2 do it at all??
Capacitive screens work with electrostatic fields in my understanding, maybe peoples electrostatic field who experience this is somehow different?? Who knows.... ??
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i think all hd2 has the shiver screen but it depends on your finger position on the screen
I've found if you hover just above the screen it is more likely to happen. Or if you have another finger very very close to the screen and touch with another it gets confused.
But tbh I have it rarely.
BSB sensitivity tweaks and those in HD2tweak eliminated the issue for me entirely.
Another trick is to use a screen protector which makes it behave much more like a resistive screen.
Please vote and let us know about your N7 and where did you buy it.
This pool could give us clue about the build quality and help people to make buying decision.
So, again, if you own or owned one, please vote.
Thanks.
Things I noticed about my Nexus 7 in the first night with it:
1) Right audio output is dead. 3 headphones pushed in all the way. This in the end is why I'm getting a replacement.
Other minor issues:
2) Touch seems flaky. A single touch-drag will glitch into two touches every now and then. I noticed this when browsing it will suddenly zoom instead of scroll. I also see it in Swype where it will drop in the middle of a long word, really annoying. There are other glitches that I can bring out with multi-touch in a test program but I don't think they are significant comapred to the ones I can actually notice causing problems while using it. All I know is that the touchscreen performance of my SGS is pretty much flawless (one of the reasons I bought it over the Desire) and the N7 unit I have now is far from it and it shows in some pretty annoying ways.
Is this systemic or a random defect? Hardware or software fix? Who knows, but from what I have heard and know these digitizers are discrete units that report touch locations and can't be fixed in software. Worth returning the device over? Maybe, but sadly I think it might mean bailing on the device completely as it could be unfixable.
3) Orientation sensor is off by about 4 and 6 degrees in X and Y directions. Sucks to play a game and have a tilt offset, and probably screws with auto-rotate a bit too. This seems like it could be calibrated out easily but this functionality, if it exists, is not readily apparent. Wonder if this is caused by UPS or whoever tossing the boxes around. My SGS was off about 4 degrees after a drop, but there was a command line calibration for it (also in the menu in 2.3, but I got lucky when they repaired the faulty internal SD it went away, probably on the same board as flash that was replaced).
4) Screen raised up on the left side. This is first thing I noticed because I looked for it first. I could probably live with it or try the washer fix if it weren't for the audio jack problem. It doesn't make any creaky noises or anything.
The screen as far as display looks quite good. Even blacks with no backlight bleed or dead pixels. My concern is that my replacement unit will have a worse problems with the display than this one, then I'll end up riding the replacement train for another pass like so many other folks. I might just ask a Google rep straight up if it would be better to wait a few months. I was prepared to do this for minor problems but the broken audio jack is pretty major.
Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
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Like it has a spring inside?
No, I'm not kidding here!
Hold the phone between your index finger and thumb about 1/4 way from the bottom and tap the back near the camera while listening. You can actually feel it too, like there is a spring inside. Not sure if it's the battery terminals or the display inside. I have the 16GB Korean model if that makes any difference.
I will try using the voice recorder to see if it can be recorded in case nobody else's phone does this. I've had it in many different cases as well, does not make any difference in the sound.
EDIT: The voice recorder and video camera (using the same mic) do not pic up this "anomaly". It would have to be recorded with another device.
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How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
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How often do you go around tapping your phone with it up to your ear?
I think it's either the camera lens or the vibration module. This is very normal, don't worry about it.
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Just curious as to what's inside causing this. I felt it, if you hold it up to your ear you can hear a distinct "boing" when it's tapped.
Speaking of camera lens is the "stabilizer" function of the camera digital or active, i.e. suspended elements servo controlled, etc. ?
None of my other phones do this.
Some may call me crazy, but I do enjoy that sound. Not quite as good as the ting my s2 used to make doing the same thing
I get it too. Not worried about it.
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s4 weird feel
I noticed that too and they replicated that feel to the charger that came with it. kinda weird.
same here
i have it also...and is actually very bad. i tried to get it replaced, but the guys from samsung said it's normal and it will not affect the hardware of the phone. the phone is working great...without any problems,lags or errors so i think i will leave it that way. i watched a video on youtube about how to disassemble the s4, and i think is the vibrator motor. i hope so...because if is not the next think would be the display. if someone has any other clues please let us know
Its just the vibration module, the force makes it spin slightly causing the "springy" feeling like a light vibration, same with plugging your charger in its just haptic feedback bud
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Dear All,
I would like to have your Opinion on the Following.
I believe my Phone has bad build quality. Google say this is normal and they will not exchange it.
I would like the opinion of the community on the following topic.
I*have encountered 2 problems with my Nexus 6P:*
Problem 1: clicking sound coming from camera if dropped lightly on bed or sofa, or if shaken (most likely inferior camera module) sound might come from autofocus but persists if camera is on.
Problem 2: Creeking sound and noticeable give and bending if pressure is applied to back panel, just underneath the fingerprint scanner. This I can tolerate from a plastic phone but not from a 699€ device. most likely the adhesive is applied badly and the creaking sound happens when the backplate of the phone springs back into place.
Admittedly minor complaints but still substantial build quality issues.
I created a youtube Video to illustrate my complaint but I can not post this yet as I am a new user. ***tu.be/f0Kf13dECFI
I dont have any of those, and i agree, even tho its really minor problems, its sad if google dont want to exchange
feis said:
I dont have any of those, and i agree, even tho its really minor problems, its sad if google dont want to exchange
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Almost every phone has this tickling sound coming from camera. Try it your self, hit soft with your hands your phone near camera when device locked and also try that when trying to focus in camera app, then this sound stops. It's because camera sensor.
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Almost every phone has this tickling sound coming from camera. Try it your self, hit soft with your hands your phone near camera when device locked and also try that when trying to focus in camera app, then this sound stops. It's because camera sensor.
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I agree that most phones have this rattle, however with mine it seems to be getting worse, I have tried it with the camera on and it still makes the noise. I have talked to google about it and they say it is the gyroscope and that this is normal. However if it is normal why do other phones not make this sound.
Anyway the bigger Issue is the bad quality of the adhesive in the back panel. The creeking sound is disturbing as it always happens even if I am only holding it in my hand. One day this thing will just fall apart.