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A possible 3G/EDGE connection fix (for previous G1/MT3G owners)

My SIM was cooked by my Nexus yesterday and had it replaced. The T-mobile guy I was talking to said that the 3G issue might be happening because I still had the G1 data plan and not the android data plan. I have no idea why this would matter. But since he changed that, and my SIM, I have had great 3G reception in places where I used to only get EDGE.
I thought I would share.
Also, if you want to test this just call up T-Mobile and ask them to switch you from the G1 data plan to the android connection. It doesn't cost a penny.

Your SIM was cooked by your nexus one.... wait, what?

ryan22158 said:
My SIM was cooked by my Nexus yesterday and had it replaced. The T-mobile guy I was talking to said that the 3G issue might be happening because I still had the G1 data plan and not the android data plan. I have no idea why this would matter. But since he changed that, and my SIM, I have had great 3G reception in places where I used to only get EDGE.
I thought I would share.
Also, if you want to test this just call up T-Mobile and ask them to switch you from the G1 data plan to the android connection. It doesn't cost a penny.
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Isn't the Android data plan more expensive?

AverageCanadian said:
Isn't the Android data plan more expensive?
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No. They had the G1 data plan first but then when they came out with T-Mobile's Visual Voicemail to get it to work you had to have the plan switched to the Android plan (same price).
Also, OP, tell us how did you fry your SIM?

funny you mention that, I opened a new acct with the mob and on my bill it says 'android plan' $0.00. i asked what that was and he said it was for 3G.....

ryan22158 said:
My SIM was cooked by my Nexus yesterday...
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wait, what??

This the second time, My g1 did it too. Don't think melted plastic or anything like that. I have a theory that the SIM sits right on top of the processor and other components in the phone. If you haven't noticed the phone can get really hot when charge (no my phone is not broken). I think it might be my charging habits. I run the battery to about 25-30% and then let it charge all night. So, that might have something to do with it.
No worries about your cool Nexus One because I honestly think this is a HTC hardware design problem. Also, I am sure these cheap little SIMs (insert bad Sim video game pun ) aren't meant to handle much heat.
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wait, what??
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This could possibly be a registration issue on the sim due to the flapping. The older model sims generally start to fail/suffer around 90k registrations (If you reg on a tower @ 3g, then switch to 2g, then back to 3g, that's 3 registrations right there).

The original G1 plan had $25/month for data + 400 texts, and $35/month for data + unlimited texts.
The Android plan has $25/month for data only, and $35/month for unlimited texts. You lose the 400 free texts, even though it's the same cost.
As for the Android plan having $0.00, I'm assuming it's from the Even More Plus bundle.

G1 Data plan is the same as the Android data plan. There is one with 400 texts on it that is a part of a bundle basically. Basically what I'm saying is all of the android data plans will work on all of the T-Mobile phones because they are the same...I still have my G1 data plan on my line and my 3G is flawless and I don't even live in a major market (Jacksonville, FL). I work for T-Mobile and know this to be true. Granted I always put the designated plan for each phone, but I'm almost 100% positive it doesn't make a difference. The cooked sim thing sounds shady too. Your G1 didn't "cook" your sim. Just my $0.02...

Get this though. I had my G1, SIM died about a month of use, Nexus One died after one week. Now my manager has a MT3G and bought it new about 4 months ago and had the same SIM for the past 6 years, died yesterday. He had a Wing before the MT3G, but his SIM never. I also have another co-worker with a G1, but no data plan. His SIM has been fine ever since he bought his G1 off some chick.
3G sucks in the Minneapolis area. I am always connecting and reconnecting, happened with my G1 too. Not to blame you or anything. I think the connect reconnect issue here in the Mpls/St. Paul area might have something to do with the dying SIM cards.
masse1369 said:
G1 Data plan is the same as the Android data plan. There is one with 400 texts on it that is a part of a bundle basically. Basically what I'm saying is all of the android data plans will work on all of the T-Mobile phones because they are the same...I still have my G1 data plan on my line and my 3G is flawless and I don't even live in a major market (Jacksonville, FL). I work for T-Mobile and know this to be true. Granted I always put the designated plan for each phone, but I'm almost 100% positive it doesn't make a difference. The cooked sim thing sounds shady too. Your G1 didn't "cook" your sim. Just my $0.02...
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I am relatively new to SIM cards, coming from the dreaded CDMA. Is there any special care I should take with them??

Orangeandblue302 said:
I am relatively new to SIM cards, coming from the dreaded CDMA. Is there any special care I should take with them??
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I've had my SIM since I joined T-mobile in January of 2003. I only replaced it because the paint on one side was chipping a little and I didn't want it to clog up my phone. Special care...? Just pop it in and leave it. Nothing special needed.

uansari1 said:
I've had my SIM since I joined T-mobile in January of 2003. I only replaced it because the paint on one side was chipping a little and I didn't want it to clog up my phone. Special care...? Just pop it in and leave it. Nothing special needed.
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I meant special care, as in not letting it get to hot or charging it a specific way, not cleaning it or anything.

Orangeandblue302 said:
I meant special care, as in not letting it get to hot or charging it a specific way, not cleaning it or anything.
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No... it's just a sim card man. No worries.

I'm reposting my post in the development forum for you guys... thought you may be interested:
So I've been following this issue on Google's support website, and one of the rooted users over there is almost positive it's a software issue with 2.1. He actually flashed a port of 2.0.1. Although he got lots of FC's, obviously as 2.0.1 isn't made for the N1, he was getting excellent 3G connectivity, and constant speeds over 1500kbps!
Here's the link so you can read for yourself. The user's name is GNove.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...40c2&hl=en#all

uansari1 said:
I'm reposting my post in the development forum for you guys... thought you may be interested:
So I've been following this issue on Google's support website, and one of the rooted users over there is almost positive it's a software issue with 2.1. He actually flashed a port of 2.0.1. Although he got lots of FC's, obviously as 2.0.1 isn't made for the N1, he was getting excellent 3G connectivity, and constant speeds over 1500kbps!
Here's the link so you can read for yourself. The user's name is GNove.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...40c2&hl=en#all
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Dead link.

Breakthecycle2 said:
Dead link.
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The link was working earlier. Go to the help site and click on the link for 3G problems. GNove posted there...

3G data speeds dramatically declined

When I first got the Evo, I was getting about 900kb/sec-1.1mb/sec in my house, and ever since I've flashed these custom ROM's and new radio... The best I can get is about 300-500kb/sec... I've also noticed that my signal seems to fluctuate every couple seconds, from no signal to a full signal, which never used to happen either. I know I'm not going crazy, I just wondered if anyone else has experienced this... It's really discouraging

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i also noticee this too and ur are ABSOLUTELY right i was clockin like 1.1mb-1.5 before and im rooted using the fresh room and im at 600kb

gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.

I notice slower speeds as well from my first day or so 4th and 5th. I might feel the same way you do if I didnt have my girlfriend and best friend who both got evo around the same time and are being completely stock. They both have similar speeds to me. I actually went into a Sprint store to complain and sure snuff my speeds jumped up to 700kbps downstream for the first time in almost a week right before I went in.
I am NOT happy with my 3g speeds and am borderline on canceling my contract. If it wasn't for this awesome phone and this awesome dev community I would tell Sprint to kiss my whole @$$h0le. Premium data my ass.
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I noticed better speeds after the ROM and Radio update. Speeds are highly variable and depend on a lot of factors. I doubt you damaged it by flashing, flash memory is designed to be flashed.

infamousjax said:
gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.

I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?

How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?

infamousjax said:
How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013

infamousjax said:
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Even if it is possible, your new phone will come pre-broken most likely. That radio is the official Sprint radio and if the phone has the OTA update you will have it.

infamousjax said:
I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Just because you do not know what the variables are, does not mean there are no variables.
Possible variables you are not considering.
There are 20 other people around you with new EVOs testing their speeds, tethering, and downloading like its going out of style.
Time of the day. There are peak usage times. Maybe your first test was on a low usage time.
The site you use to test your speed has become more congested recently.
There is more CDMA users around you recently. With CDMA towers, the more users per tower, the lower its radius/signal will get.
Maybe you had WiFi on the first time?
I am sure I could make up 15 more variables if I wanted to.
To ease your concerns, think of ROMs as software, and your phone as the hardware. It is very unlikely that you did damage to the hardware. Especially considering most of these ROMs are exactly like Stock minus a few Sprint apps.

danknee said:
I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.

I'm not an idiot alright... I didn't have Wifi on... I know somethings screwed up with my phone, it's not in my head.
There are possibly some variables as to why my speed isn't the same as it was a week ago, but there really is no explanation that for my erratic signal.
Oh well, hopefully I can figure it out.

obviously this has nothing to do with wifi, but doesnt the EVO have 4G and cdma radio's????

danknee said:
Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
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I am close to returning my EVO. I thought that maybe one of my flashes has done something to my 3g speeds, but I ran that RUU and no luck . I am going to be going to Sprint store on Wednesday to compare.
I am in Aurora CO, I am coming from Nexus one on T-Mobile. I LOVE Evo, but hate the way sprint is. I use my phone at the gym to listen to Pandora/Slacker, can't even do it on Evo since I get such crappy 3g speeds.. Downtown Denver phone works fine, but not here... Anyways, on T-Mobile I got about 1.6mb down, and 300up most of the time.
Today, I went down to T-Mobile store and ran SpeedTest on MT3G and Evo. At the store, MT3G got 3mbps down!!!, Evo howered around 600kbps. Anyways, point is, I really am not too happy with Sprint in my area. I am sure that in other places it is fine, but it doesn't seem to be the case here. I have tried everything, even downgraded my radio, no change in results.

clubtech said:
Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon

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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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Once again, really depends on where you are. I have posted of my results here in Colorado, so yea...

have you tried changing the PRL's to use Verizons towers?
from my experience the only negative thing it does is break sprint TV

i felt the same way, just noticed tonight. but now that i've run a bunch more speed tests, it all averages out. no doubt all these evo's are taxing sprints network to the extreme. :/ hopefully that $10 surcharge will quickly pay for upgrades.

3g cap exist?

Im thinking of getting 3g. Is there a 10gb cap? How fast is tmo edge? Ty. I want to tether
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By 10 Gb cap are you talking about T-Mobile bottlenecking your phone's bandwidth after hitting 10 Gb of usage in a month? Yes, from what I've read that exists, but I've never ran into it and I think it's lower than that (around 2 Gb). T-Mobile Edge sucks, but if your in an area with HSPA+ (they're version of 4G) you should be alright. I think I get around 2 Mbps down/800 Kbps up.

Its actually a 5gb cap for t-mobile as of mid-October. It was 10gb but most people don't know about either of these numbers because the plans were sold explicitly as "unlimited", and technically they are because they don't actually cut you off and charge per mb after the 5gb cap like Att. They just "throttle" your speeds for the rest of the billing period from 3g (2mb) to edge (56k), which can be found in small print at the end of the terms of service booklet that comes with the phone (after you pay for it- cs reps DO NOT disclose this while selling you an "unlimited" plan).
You will know if you're throttled if you get a text from T-mo saying you've exceeded the cap, which has happened to me for the last 2 months. Luckily, the techs at T-Mobile are retarded and you can get around this by either replacing the throttle files in your rom.zip or by using an alternate apn. Search for "how to defeat data throttling" on xda and there's a complete guide on how to do both of these in the thread. I have heard that 4g phones wont get capped though, so you might want to look into that before buying a 3g. Speeds on 3g are decent though and I use both pdanet and wireless tethering to connect to my laptop on a daily basis. USB is faster, but I average around 1.7mb download and 1.2 up. Your location and distance from cell towers will be the biggest determining factor on speed.
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Thank you for your time mike. And for the long descriptive info. May I ask what keyboard you use. I must say, i admire your flawless spelling.
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I live approx 8miles from the nearest hspa tower. In los angeles all the city near the real downtown have fast 3g rate.. whqt do you think the most u can use before tmo slows u? I am a heavy user, about 18gig a month. Btw if u are 5gig capped, and say u used 4.5gig and switch apn, it reset to 0?
btw 4g as in the g2 and mytouch.4g?
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T-Mobile's 4G. Dunno about the G2, but yes to the myTouch 4G.

Haha thanks its just the keyboard that came with the latest cyanogen nightly, but it is slightly different than the keyboard from 6.1 rc1 and seems to be more responsive. I don't think it matters if you switch the apn before or after 5gb because they don't throttle the internet2 apn for some reason. I go over 15gb/month too because of tethering so i just use the alternate internet2 apn while throttled and switch back to epc.tmobile when the new billing cycle starts. Deleting the 7 throttle files is a more permanent fix but I hate dealing with adb and fastboot. And ya I meant the new mytouch and I'm pretty sure the g2 which are t-mobile's only "4g" phones atm. I really want to switch from my mytouch 3g to a 4g phone too but when i got this phone it was one of two t-mo androids at the time (ironically the g1 and mytouch 3g) and a month later they came out with like 10 more so I'm gonna wait for my upgrade cuz I know they're gonna pull the same BS with 4g after they get all the ppl with money burning a hole in their pockets to spring for the new mytouch and g2. If you're getting a new plan tho I would take a close look at their specs compared to the nexus s, I'll bet they don't come close. I live in central Cali btw, how do you check where the nearest tower is? Speedtest.net runs off a Modesto tower which is 45 mins away, I'm hoping my 3g tower is closer than that.
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On tmo website. There is a coverage map u can check on.
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moneymike55 said:
...Luckily, the techs at T-Mobile are retarded and you can get around this by either replacing the throttle files in your rom.zip or by using an alternate apn. Search for "how to defeat data throttling" on xda and there's a complete guide on how to do both of these in the thread.
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I didn't even know about this. Anyone able to verify this 100% yet?
BTW, I added the hypertext for the guide that I'm assuming that you are referring to.

I was thinking of changing. My stupid verizon, in my area is charging me DOUBLE. I pay 40$ for verizon (internet+phone home) but they are charging me an EXTRA 20$. Which is BULL. So, im at a Pay or QUIT, and I QUIT.Screw that if your going to charge me 40 bucks, i might as well get 3G/4G. I will try to verify, let me reactivate my data plan..I will post back. Feel free to discuss

Binary100100 said:
I didn't even know about this. Anyone able to verify this 100% yet?
BTW, I added the hypertext for the guide that I'm assuming that you are referring to.
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Thanks for posting the link, I know that the alternate apn works and there are a few dozen ppl that have tested and confirmed that the other process works, with the only common issue being force closes on the networks setting menu. I have gone through the first steps of finding the 7 throttle files in the rom zip and changing them through adb using smali and the concept makes sense, but you have to delete these files for each rom install and Im currently testing the stability of the latest cm nightly build compared to 6.1 rc1 so I didn't want to finish until I decided on a rom. I believe there are a few ppl on that thread that have been compiling update.zip files that can be applied to any rom using recovery, but I tried one and got a bootloop so had to use nandroid. No throttle definitely makes 3g more bearable but to answer the question in the op, edge and 3g speeds suck compared to 4g and if you like the g2 or mytouch 4g I would buy one cuz there's no point getting stuck paying the same price for slower speeds for the next two years. The only thing holding me back is my contract, and $200 is looking more worth it every time I see 3g vs 4g speedtest posts.
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moneymike55 said:
Thanks for posting the link, I know that the alternate apn works and there are a few dozen ppl that have tested and confirmed that the other process works, with the only common issue being force closes on the networks setting menu. I have gone through the first steps of finding the 7 throttle files in the rom zip and changing them through adb using smali and the concept makes sense, but you have to delete these files for each rom install and Im currently testing the stability of the latest cm nightly build compared to 6.1 rc1 so I didn't want to finish until I decided on a rom. I believe there are a few ppl on that thread that have been compiling update.zip files that can be applied to any rom using recovery, but I tried one and got a bootloop so had to use nandroid. No throttle definitely makes 3g more bearable but to answer the question in the op, edge and 3g speeds suck compared to 4g and if you like the g2 or mytouch 4g I would buy one cuz there's no point getting stuck paying the same price for slower speeds for the next two years. The only thing holding me back is my contract, and $200 is looking more worth it every time I see 3g vs 4g speedtest posts.
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So if the throttle files make sense then so should this? Very simple actually:
Make a nandroid backup at the beginning of the billing period.
Use up your 5gb limit.
Restore your nandroid backup and see if you are still being throttled.
If so... doesn't work. If not... then there might be something to it.

Uh binary. Was Xda taken out of tapatalk for a few days? Couldnt access on phone. But curous what is a nandroid? I see it in my clockwork. But. Never did one. Explain to a Noob xD
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JohnnyP.akaJP said:
Uh binary. Was Xda taken out of tapatalk for a few days? Couldnt access on phone. But curous what is a nandroid? I see it in my clockwork. But. Never did one. Explain to a Noob xD
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I dunno about tapatalk. I haven't heard anything about it. However there is a member that has been posting his QUESTIONS in the Development section almost on a daily basis that I have to keep moving and at the bottom of all of his posts have the typical "Sent from..." on it. So maybe it was just yours?
Nandroid = Clockwork backup:
A complete backup of essential data and rom components.
It consists of the following:
[*]BOOT.IMG
[*]CACHE.IMG
[*]DATA.IMG
[*]SYSTEM.IMG
[*]RECOVERY.IMG
[*]SD-EXT.IMG
[*].ANDROID_SECURE.IMG
[*]MISC.IMG
These files can be restored by using the same tool to produce the backup. (ie Clockwork backups are restored by Clockwork Recovery, Nandroid.sh script can be restored by the nandroid.sh script recovery commands.)
There all pretty much the same. Nandroid and BART scripts aren't commonly used since Clockwork came around but all pretty much do the same thing. Since Clockwork is constantly updated it is the most recommended method of producing a backup of your phones current state.
Also worth noting that with some these backups they can also be restored by fastboot. Fastboot flash userdata data.img, Fastboot flash system system.img, Fastboot flash boot boot.img, Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img, Fastboot flash cache cache.img. Not certain about the SD-ext.img and .andoid_secure.img though.
So in my previously mentioned suggestion if the throttle files are the only cause of being throttled after exceeding the 5gb limit then the fix is simple. Restore the system.img which contains the framework's services.jar file. But I'm very skeptical that this would even work because I'm pretty skeptical that the method in the guide is effective. Hell... to make it even easier what's to stop you from exceeding your 5gb limit and simply putting your sim in another phone and using the data from that device? I think T-Mobile is smarter than that... aren't they? Using a different APN perhaps... but not editing the serivce.jar file. That's just my theory anyway.
If you want my opinion, I think that the provider (T-Mobile) throttles it on their end... not by ours. Broadband providers (Comcast, AT&T Broadband, Roadrunner, etc) don't throttle your bandwidth by replacing the drivers on your computers network card. It's all on their end.

I have a hypothesis, built on what binaey said.. I think that every sim card has a unique tracking code. So on 3g. When you request data, it will use your unique id. They save the info on their logs, and disable you when u hit 5gigs. Nevertheless, i will still try.
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Oh and the switching apn ideas seems pretty concrete.
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JohnnyP.akaJP said:
I have a hypothesis, built on what binaey said.. I think that every sim card has a unique tracking code. So on 3g. When you request data, it will use your unique id. They save the info on their logs, and disable you when u hit 5gigs. Nevertheless, i will still try.
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That's what SIM's do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_Identity_Module

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Binary100100 said:
So in my previously mentioned suggestion if the throttle files are the only cause of being throttled after exceeding the 5gb limit then the fix is simple. Restore the system.img which contains the framework's services.jar file. But I'm very skeptical that this would even work because I'm pretty skeptical that the method in the guide is effective. Hell... to make it even easier what's to stop you from exceeding your 5gb limit and simply putting your sim in another phone and using the data from that device? I think T-Mobile is smarter than that... aren't they? Using a different APN perhaps... but not editing the serivce.jar file. That's just my theory anyway.
If you want my opinion, I think that the provider (T-Mobile) throttles it on their end... not by ours. Broadband providers (Comcast, AT&T Broadband, Roadrunner, etc) don't throttle your bandwidth by replacing the drivers on your computers network card. It's all on their end.
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You're right, the throttle files are activated OTA by t-mobile once you reach the cap. These files are built into the rom and, once activated, constantly bottleneck data speeds from your registered account, meaning that switching phones or loading a backup from the beginning of the month wont work because the data usage is stored on t-mo servers and your rom will still contain the files they need to automatically throttle you. The key to all of this is cost effectiveness through automation. You would think the techs at T-Mobile would be aware of the fact that simply deleting the files and replacing them to essentially trick the phone is possible, and I'm sure they are. The problem is that it would be a lot more expensive to pay employees to manually update individual users accounts and maintain them for the entire throttle cycle. T-mobile's system is undoubtedly flawed, but (beside the fact that only MAYBE a few hundred thousand ppl of their millions of customers know about it, and theyre making up for it from the ppl who manually updated and are actually paying $15 to tether) it has already been worked into all their phones and would require either new infrastructure and manpower to fix, or the cancellation of developer's data plans altogether for violating TOS. The mod has been thoroughly tested with all positive results though, and the entire time we've been discussing this I have been "throttled" at 2.0mb lol. I didn't bother with the mod because the internet2 apn has been working great. Incidentally, after the throttle was deactivated mid-morning yesterday my speeds jumped from ~2.0 to 3.2 consistently for 6 tests under internet2 apn, and ~2.5 top on epc.tmobile apn. Along with the fact that a t-mo rep on their forums said that all employees use internet2 and that is also what cs reccommends to customers with bad service before they cancel their contracts, I am starting to come to the conclusion that the alternate apn is a solution to several issues including throttle and overall connection speed.
And by the way JP, nandroid is one of the most important things you can do when modding your device. It essentially creates a backup of the current state of your device so that if you ever get stuck in a boot-loop or black screen, you can boot to recovery and reinstall the backup. It only takes 5mins to make through recovery or rom manager,and is very valuable to have just in case (saved me from a bricked device 2 weeks ago...after staying up all night trying to figure out what buttons to push to boot to recovery without the internet
EDIT: tested both apns again using speedtest.net app and went from 2100kbps consistently on epc.tmobile to 1650kbps avg on internet2 so I could be wrong about the speed improvement. Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App

Update: Alternate apn fix no longer works as of this month. Have fun answering the phone tmobile cuz ppl r really going to complain now.
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I have run out of ideas! 3G Limited?

Hello there new guy here, and XDA noob
For a while now, about 2 years i have been stuck on a maximum of 250 kbps. Previously i had a HTC Desire Rooted and with custom rom Redux. I could never get above 250 kbps on 3g.
Now i have a HTC One X, and yet im still getting the same speeds, which kinda rules out any hardware bottlenecks. I can run on both T-Mobile and Orange Uk (because they merged). My brother owns a HTC Sensation and runs on the exact same carrier as i do and uses the same mast and manages to gain over 500kbps.. HOW?!
I tried ringing orange and asking if there was any limitations and they said no, they even put me through to the best tech service they had :l. Any ideas guys? I would be very rgateful if you could give me any insight. thanks

need more info. this doesnt sound right at all. where do you live? ever checked your distance to nearest cell tower? do you know of anyone else getting better speeds on the same network?
do you have proper network selected in settings? correct APN?
perhaps network build.prop tweaks? sometimes they help other times they can hurt..
also *#*#INFO#*#* select phone information and radio band.
could also have a bad SIM card if it is old.

I live in the UK, Around Birmingham and Coventry. I'm usually always on full signal and iv'e even been as close as the "Danger Radiation" sign lol My brother typically gets over 500 kbps and is pretty consistant... lucky B... :l
Correct APN? I presume you mean Carrier? im with Orange and it all seems grand.. so i think anyways.
Build.prop, i wouldn't know where to start with that ,i presume make a backup and try flashing an update.zip, if any problems use restore?
Not quit sure what im looking for in Phone info, help me out ?
And im sure it's not the sim card, it's the new micro sim that came with the phone !

APN = access point name
and you would only have access to your build.prop(properties) if you are rooted.
phone info; try entering this into the dialer : *#*#4636#*#*
select phone information (then you might need to press menu button) and choose radio band from there. You may also be able to change this in settings.
Is 500kbs the fastest speed you guys have seen? sounds very odd. I think I may have heard of this.. being too close to a tower causes terrible speeds, if it is fact the case, you may want to try connecting to the next closest tower. there should be some free apps around to view your cell tower info and possibly even change towers.
500kbs is not 3g.

Yeah it looks like all my APN settings and band is correct, if they weren't i wouldn't really be on a 3g signal what so ever. No other useful information is seen in info, Also, i have tried switching between carriers and tried the speed test on many many differen't towers. Im really stumped myself, and my phones rooted, but without RUU i can't install any Radio drivers can i?

3G service usually does not get above 2mb which in reality is only 200kbs.. i ran a speed test on a buddy's iPhone and it was only 1.54mb which is only 150kbs.... So you are right in the mid grade of speed... Get a 4G cell...

Those are horrible speeds for 3G at the least. Absolutely atrocious!
Have you tried consulting your carrier? Perhaps they could resolve the issue.

emuhack said:
3G service usually does not get above 2mb which in reality is only 200kbs.. i ran a speed test on a buddy's iPhone and it was only 1.54mb which is only 150kbs.... So you are right in the mid grade of speed... Get a 4G cell...
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My brother has a HTC Sensation and is able to get 600 kb/s+ I hope your not confusing it with kbps ! Sorry if i confused you !
And yeah i contacted them a while ago and they said everything was fine from their end !
I have a HTC ONE X, surely that's capable of H+, Something isn't right.

Data Service is Blocked

Just started today, and has been going on for most of the day:
Keep getting a notification saying Data Service is Blocked.
Reset my APN thinking it was that.. no go..
I'm on At&t
Anyone else Having this issue... I know if I call AT&T they are going to be clueless.

What version of OOS are you using? I had my network just complete lose service one time, had to reboot to recover. I have T-Mobile.

Binary Assault said:
What version of OOS are you using? I had my network just complete lose service one time, had to reboot to recover. I have T-Mobile.
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AT&T
4.5.5
Reboots aren't helping much.

Instead of reseting the APN go make a new one based on the settings suggested by AT&T. I had some data issues on T-Mobile and I noticed the was a couple of differences in the APN (hipri, supl) things like that. Nothing major but I had slower speeds and some apps couldn't connect. I created a new APN and everything has been butter since.

Jonathan.Parker2005 said:
Instead of reseting the APN go make a new one based on the settings suggested by AT&T. I had some data issues on T-Mobile and I noticed the was a couple of differences in the APN (hipri, supl) things like that. Nothing major but I had slower speeds and some apps couldn't connect. I created a new APN and everything has been butter since.
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Deleted all, created a new one based on: https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1062162

Hey I am on t mobile too and for me it does say lte next to the network bar but there an exclamation mark. Any ideas ?

neelpatel99 said:
Hey I am on t mobile too and for me it does say lte next to the network bar but there an exclamation mark. Any ideas ?
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Have you checked your data limits? Mine was maxing out at 1GB and it shut of the data. I had to go in and set it to not turn off data and I raised the limit to 1TB.

I did check the data and I have barely used like 500mb.

I read about AT&T banning the use of a note fan edition based on the information provided by the imei.. The person had called to activate and optimize the data connection on their device.. A few hours later they had constant no service whatsoever.
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MrWilsonxD said:
I read about AT&T banning the use of a note fan edition based on the information provided by the imei.. The person had called to activate and optimize the data connection on their device.. A few hours later they had constant no service whatsoever.
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My sim came from my 3t, which didn't have the issue.

Support had me factory reset it, didnt have the issue all evening.
I get into work this morning and it starts popping up every minute..
I'm wondering if its a signal issue?
When it happens, its in the process of changing from H+ to lte+

DjCalvin said:
My sim came from my 3t, which didn't have the issue.
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Yeah, the same argument could go for the guy who brought his sim from a note 5 to the fan edition.. It was just a possibility..
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