This could be farewell.... - Nexus S General

After months of research, I really thought the NS was the phone for me, I love Android and needed a phone that can connect 3G in both US and Asia. So came 12/16, I woke up in the morning and was at best buy by 8am to pick up what could be my dream phone.
After 3 days with the phone, I am likely going to return this phone due to that i can't get 3g with ATT and I can't go tmo becuz of work. Not supporting 1900 band was a huge disappointment for me cuz N1 had it, why not the newer NS?
In any case, I ordered a galaxy s, gonna give that a try.
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willhang said:
After months of research, I really thought the NS was the phone for me, I love Android and needed a phone that can connect 3G in both US and Asia. So came 12/16, I woke up in the morning and was at best buy by 8am to pick up what could be my dream phone.
After 3 days with the phone, I am likely going to return this phone due to that i can't get 3g with ATT and I can't go tmo becuz of work. Not supporting 1900 band was a huge disappointment for me cuz N1 had it, why not the newer NS?
In any case, I ordered a galaxy s, gonna give that a try.
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Did you know that i did not support 1900 band before purchasing?

debro012 said:
Did you know that i did not support 1900 band before purchasing?
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This. I think you came into this with unrealistic expectations. It was very very clear that the NS would not work with AT&T 3g (850 or 1900) long before it launched on thursday.

Not to mention the fact that the Best Buy FAQ stated it numerous times, as well as any review of the phone.

There should be a version for at&t, i9010.

Did you know the N1 did not support ATT 3G on release date?
N1 had 2 versions:
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
Still had to pick between Tmobile and ATT.

I see an at&t 3G compatible version down the line, possibly the end of winter.

The Nexus One was launched on T-Mobile on January 5th, and they released the AT&T version in March. So I'd assume the AT&T version of the Nexus S, if there is going to be one, would come out in that same sort of time frame.
Samsung actually succeeded where Google failed, which is to launch the "same" phone on every carrier. I'm sure Google will push for them to do it again with this one. of course we should also keep in mind that by doing so, Samsung will be effectively competing with itself so that's sort of incentive not to do it...

There may be an at&t version in the future but it most likely will be full price unsubsidized for $529 just like the Nexus one. Too much money for a few upgrades. No gorilla glass, no sd card slot, no notification ball, and a cheap plastic body. I'll keep my hacked at&t galaxy tab.
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calin75 said:
There may be an at&t version in the future but it most likely will be full price unsubsidized for $529 just like the Nexus one. Too much money for a few upgrades. No gorilla glass, no sd card slot, no notification ball, and a cheap plastic body. I'll keep my hacked at&t galaxy tab.
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Anyone want to tell him that the Galaxy Tab is also made out of plastic, and also has no notification ball/light? lol Gorilla glass is overrated. Take care of your device.

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Gorilla glass is overrated. Take care of your device.
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This is more or less the way I feel; I'm the king of dropping things, and yet I've never once broken any glass or caused an LCD failure. IMO it's not really needed.

LOL LOL. What about the better battery life I get?, this phone can go for days without having to recharge it; and that I can swap my sd card(up to 32Gb) at will without opening the device or even not having to turn it off to do it. Just hold a tab and tell me it doesn't feel solid as a rock. And to know It has gorilla glass just puts my mind at ease.
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Just hold a tab and tell me it doesn't feel solid as a rock.
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Hold an NS and tell me the same.

calin75 said:
LOL LOL. What about the better battery life I get?, this phone can go for days without having to recharge it; and that I can swap my sd card(up to 32Gb) at will without opening the device or even not having to turn it off to do it. Just hold a tab and tell me it doesn't feel solid as a rock. And to know It has gorilla glass just puts my mind at ease.
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At the risk of feeding a troll here, Battery Life is fantastic on the Nexus S.
It took from 10:30PM to 7:00AM for me to kill the battery with the screen at 100% brightness, Pandora streaming, wifi on, bluetooth on, gps on, with Google Maps/Navigation running in the background and providing a white page since it costs the most power on SAMOLED.
In the interest of fairness, I used the phone pretty lightly yesterday at work(which was a surprise) and came home with 70% battery.
EDIT: To define "lightly," I had a handful of phone calls that last 45minutes to an hour each, light data usage, and text messaging nearly all day.
EDIT2: Also the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy Tab clocked in at 6hrs 9minutes by Engadget.
Battery life on the Nexus S clocked in at over 20hrs by Engadget, but I don't really trust that figure. I'd try to track down and find a better one, but now it's time to go see Tron: Legacy.

unremarked said:
Anyone want to tell him that the Galaxy Tab is also made out of plastic, and also has no notification ball/light? lol Gorilla glass is overrated. Take care of your device.
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Hahaha what a moron lol

unremarked said:
At the risk of feeding a troll here, Battery Life is fantastic on the Nexus S.
It took from 10:30PM to 7:00AM for me to kill the battery with the screen at 100% brightness, Pandora streaming, wifi on, bluetooth on, gps on, with Google Maps/Navigation running in the background and providing a white page since it costs the most power on SAMOLED.
In the interest of fairness, I used the phone pretty lightly yesterday at work(which was a surprise) and came home with 70% battery.
EDIT: To define "lightly," I had a handful of phone calls that last 45minutes to an hour each, light data usage, and text messaging nearly all day.
EDIT2: Also the battery life on the Samsung Galaxy Tab clocked in at 6hrs 9minutes by Engadget.
Battery life on the Nexus S clocked in at over 20hrs by Engadget, but I don't really trust that figure. I'd try to track down and find a better one, but now it's time to go see Tron: Legacy.
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You must use your phone extremely lightly. And I dont know how Engadget got 20 hours. Battery life for me is barely better thsn my vibrant, about 4 hours of total screen time.

debro012 said:
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That's very selfish of you. Why do you not support 1900 band?
What can I do for you so that you may support 1900 band?

I'd hoped that the Nexus S would support both AWS and 1900 for 3G data on T-Mo or AT&T, since the Vibrant does.
I'm really baffled why Samsung/Google chose to take this step backwards. Must have been some kind of restriction placed on the phone by T-Mo as part of the agreement to subsidize it. Very disappointing, but it didn't keep me from getting one to replace my N1.
To the original poster, you might be better off returning the NS and getting a Vibrant; very little difference in the two phones, and Gingerbread's likely to be ported over sooner than later. At least you'll have dual 3G bands.

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I'd hoped that the Nexus S would support both AWS and 1900 for 3G data on T-Mo or AT&T, since the Vibrant does.
I'm really baffled why Samsung/Google chose to take this step backwards. Must have been some kind of restriction placed on the phone by T-Mo as part of the agreement to subsidize it. Very disappointing, but it didn't keep me from getting one to replace my N1.
To the original poster, you might be better off returning the NS and getting a Vibrant; very little difference in the two phones, and Gingerbread's likely to be ported over sooner than later. At least you'll have dual 3G bands.
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Google has to do massive cost cutting to get the phone at $529 for retail pricing.
That's why this phone is gimped in all areas.

JCopernicus said:
Google has to do massive cost cutting to get the phone at $529 for retail pricing.
That's why this phone is gimped in all areas.
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The only flaw with that theory is that the Vibrant retails for $499 off-contract; at least that's what my friend paid for his at a T-Mo store a couple of months ago. He's using it on AT&T (we did the insanely simple software unlock on it).

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Keeping your Nexus, or getting an EVO (Supersonic)

Just a quick poll to see where everyone here is at. I'm probably going to give Sprint a year or so to expand their 4g (WiMax) coverage before committing to a new phone. I highly doubt (although I know I will be proved wrong) that the N1 will be on par with the newest (super)smartphones for quite some time.
I agree... Evo specs are nice, but not enough for me to jump ship..... n1 baby
I change my phones like I change my underwear, but I can see my beloved little nexus being with me for some considerable time.
not leaving Tmobile for Sprint.
After seeing the various update debacles with the phones currently out in the market..i think I'll stick to phones sold directly by Google. I feel bad for all the Droid owners.
I'm waiting on a tegra android phone...then ill make the jump!
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not leaving Tmobile for Sprint.
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im jumping as soon as it comes out i had tmobile then sprint then tmobile again. With sprint i had much better coverage than i do with tmobile.
I agree its not that big of jump because it only has minor upgrades: slightly improved processor (can be overclocked to 1.3ghz), better camera, dont care for the hdmi port, kickstand. Its the screen i want that screen soooo bad without windows mobile. Yes we do have amoled but the quality on the hd2 is still amazing and i assume it will be visible in the sun lol
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I agree its not that big of jump because it only has minor upgrades: slightly improved processor (can be overclocked to 1.3ghz),
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Where'd you find this information? Isn't it the same processor as the N1?
Personally, I'm skeptical on the HDMI out, too. It wasn't until after I hooked up my laptop to my TV that I found out it's only video-out, not audio, which defeated a lot of the purpose for my use.
I am concerned the screen is too big. The N1 seems to fit snugly in my pockets, this one may be a little tighter of a fit -- although I haven't heard this complain about the HD2.
ALSO, I do think that t-mobile --> sprint is an upgrade. TMo 3g is good, when its good, but it isn't always good (make sense?). Some 3g areas i get 2500 down, 1500 up, some I get 800 down, and in most places I'm in 2g network. On the other hand, my girlfriend has a Pixi via Sprint and I almost never see hers out of an EV-DO network (3g for Sprint, I believe).
Next phone has to have 1.5 Ghz or dual , till then I will keep the SexyNexi!
It's very tempting but I think I'll stick with my N1 and T-mo for little while.
meh. it's big, ugly, and glossy. sprint sucks here too.
I'd stick to tmo. Only reason to change would be coverage issues for your area. As far as their new '4g' upgrades..check the following links.
jkontherun.com/2010/02/16/t-mobile-webconnect-rocket-review-21mbps/
intomobile.com/2010/03/24/4g-in-america-lies-lies-and-more-damn-lies.html
If they hold true it essentially means 4g is a lie (ITU has not ratified the standard). Comcast, Cleawire, and Sprint all advertise it like crazy on TV here in the mid-atlantic region. Very misleading if the speed tests and truth about the standard are correct. Also looks like (true to nature) they are crippling it right out of the gate. Sure, 4g 'spec' has potential and some of the APAC carriers who adopted a draft spec of it early have shown what it's capable of but the US carriers just cant ever seem to get it right.
My next phone will be Super AMOLED.
I can't see a reason to switch otherwise.
If for no other reason already mentioned, I'd hold off on the EVO until battery life has been tested. WiMAX means you need two radios functioning simultaneously, which would mean your battery would barely make it through half a day, in theory.
No reason to switch to sprint & evo now, the Nexus continues to rock!
Waiting on nexus two!
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Waiting on nexus two!
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I think some G1 owners are still waiting on the G2; you might be waiting a while
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I change my phones like I change my underwear, but I can see my beloved little nexus being with me for some considerable time.
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That's pretty gross.
A friend of mine just got an HD2, and seeing that dimensions are similar ill pass, its too large and bulky for my taste as opposed to sleek and sexi, with that said ill stick to my n1 on another note its SPRINT..nuff said.

Ex Dell Streak er

I'm surprise no one started a thread just yet on this so let me be the first. I'm a former Dells streak user and one of those who can't rid myself of the 5 inch display, use it up to the latest rom by Djsteve on streakdroid 2.4. got myself a Gnote for couple of weeks now and is currently on Cassie's literom KL3.
here is my like and dislike with Galaxy note as compare to Streak:
Like:
Super Amoled HD makes streak pixel looks so rough in comparison
For factor, lighter and easier to hold even though screen is 0.2 inch bigger than streak.
GPS lock is blazing fast
Superb Battery life -consider this if you need more juice-http://www.obostore.com/5000mah-extended-battery-for-samsung-galaxy-note-p-3925-c-198.html
Picture and movie quality!
Dislike:
ROM for Note at infancy stage, can't even get launcher to work flawlessly
Can't run many games due to compatibility(screen not maximize or apps cant run)
Physical button location. Streak button is all at the right place for one hand thumb usage and correctly position when use horizontally. (streaker who had migrate will know what i mean)
this is what i can think of and this is not a review, i know its not fair to compare both hardware as both are from a different time and in gadget time, one year means 1 decade in human time
Ex streaker, please share your thoughts.
Streakers, post question if you have any.
I am an ex Streaker who was "forced" to go to a Samsung Infuse when my precious Streak's screen cracked... I have been drooling over the Note for months - only thing holding me back is fear of being shut off by AT&T (I am on an "unlimited" smartphone plan and I do not want to lose that). Great thread - I am curious what the ex streakers think of the Note!
Just waiting for the white Note to be released in the UK then I'll add to this thread ... Hurry up Samsung !!
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Im an ex streak owner forced to the Note after suprise suprise, breaking the lcd on the streak.
Comparison wise, the streak was good, but im sorry to say the streak is an amateurs toy compared to the note, th Gnote is a real beast humming along, the streak could never compare, as for roms, people can talk Dj Steve all day long, there isnt a single rom on that forum that actually worked as it should have, especially streakdroid.
Whats all this talk of people being cut off their data plans for having a streak, Im on an unlimited data plan in the uk with 3 and no ones ever said anything to me about my data usage, ive heard this a few times on this forum now, is this only an AT&T issue or something??
This device is basically eveything everyone who had the 5" had hoped the opus one would be. Rooting and roming seems to be easier than on the streak too somehow. I only lament it not having nfc or lte or hsdpa2 or 4g connectivity as was stated months back. There will probably be an updated version somewhere along the road too. Rumors already fart in the general direction of 6" too. Which, btw, is basically the maximum i am willing to carry, as long as the bezel ain't too big anyway. The pentile matrix samoled display is a bit of a cheat because it only uses 8 instead of 12 subpixels too. BUT the display is both capacitive AND induktive and the s-pen is basically a wacom stylus pen.
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I am an ex Streaker who was "forced" to go to a Samsung Infuse when my precious Streak's screen cracked... I have been drooling over the Note for months - only thing holding me back is fear of being shut off by AT&T (I am on an "unlimited" smartphone plan and I do not want to lose that). Great thread - I am curious what the ex streakers think of the Note!
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Wow same thing I did lol. Cracked streak screen, switched to infuse and now wanting this ...
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Also an ex Streak user here. I loved the streak at first, but after a few months I got really fed up with its temperamental nature. It was very slow at times and became just a hindrance. I couldn't wait to get rid of it and upgraded to a galaxy s2 as soon as I could. Then a few months after that I saw that the Note had been announced and began drooling over that. Had a few problems with pink spots on S2 camera so I used that as an excuse to complain to Orange UK, got out of the contract early, started a new one and got the Galaxy Note free.
Its just such a different experience to using the Streak. Much faster (although I do think some of the 3rd party launchers were smoother on the streak), much better screen, nicer to hold, s pen is fantastic, and as some others have said...the s2 now feels like a little toy.
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Graemeg, don't worry that wont happen on UK networks. Its only US networks that do that for some reason.....it seems absolutely crazy that in this day and age, and in such supposedly free country that that should be allowed to happen.. .what the hell is this world coming to. Come on all you AT &T users, get together and do something about it.
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Graemeg, don't worry that wont happen on UK networks. Its only US networks that do that for some reason.....it seems absolutely crazy that in this day and age, and in such supposedly free country that that should be allowed to happen.. .what the hell is this world coming to. Come on all you AT &T users, get together and do something about it.
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It looks like AT&T had the wrong IMEIs in its database, and it was incorrectly identifying the Note as a tablet. Apparently it's been fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402835
what is the deal on LTE for AT&T? Should I wait for the AT&T LTE version - or just go ahead and buy the UK version from Amazon?
I'm an ex-Streaker and have had my Note for about 2 days now (Euro/UK version) I love it. I was about to get a Galaxy Nexus but went into VZW on launch day, held up my Streak to it, and realized I can't go back to a smaller screen (4.65" in ICS is about 4.4" or so due to soft buttons).
I am a former Dell Streak owner / early adopter.
I chase new technology and when I heard of the Note I became consumed with interest.
My Streak was great. I used it a lot. Thankfully, I was able to sell it.
But... the Note is SO MUCH further beyond the Streak. The screen. The feel in hand. The speed. The camera. The OS. Leaps and bounds ahead of the Streak and it's not even close.
But... if I had a small complaint; the Note's side buttons are easy to hit in the gripping process. Sometimes the easy press is good. Sometimes not. But I'm learning to avoid them.
I used to own a streak, and now own a note. This phone really is what the streak should have been. All the djsteve roms couldn't make the streak a frustrationless phone, the note is without modding it.
Everybody thinking about jumping ship, do it!
AT&T
Sorry for all you guys having those issues, thats just awful the way this company has behaved.
Im on the 3 network in the uk, and i know 3 and vodafone allow complete tethering over here, so there never seems to be an issue over it, although 3 are the only network that give TRUE unlimited data to their subscribers.
I do not have home broadband, i do not see the need, my friends are on 21mbps Broadband and even at good times only achieve DL rates of 5mbps, i tether my NOTE via usb tethering and achieve between 6-10mbps DL rates.
Some months ive downloaded about 10 to 20 gig, so, i see no need to ever invest in broadband that will never match what i have now.
I did read that the AT&T issue is now resolved, fingers crossed for you all, the note is probably in the category of a HYBRID as the streak very much was, but this does not give AT&T the right to spoil your enjoyment of the digital age, i hope you guys across the pond have no further issues, its a shambolic statement of corporate America based on greed, but then ive never heard anyone say anything good about them.
Dont get me wrong guys, i dont mean to DIS the streak, for what it was it was nifty, in its day, but it didnt help that the makers were DELL, and the amount of flaws in the item straight from the box in the uk were awful, my friend had 4 on the trot replaced, upon turning it on straight from the box, BOOTLOOPS, lmao, she soon ditched it and demanded a blackberry, i dunno which is worse LOL, then theres the terrible screen issue made of FEATHER glass, drop it from more that 3 inches from the ground and thats ya screen done for..........
What i did love, was how easy it was to customise, flash, reflash, revert to stock, flash, Wow, it really was childs play, this phone really was unbrickable, and i think that was its best feature, but still were very lucky, if Dell had never made and failed with the streak we may never have seen the GNote, SAMSUNG YOU ROCK......GOD BLESS AMERICA, AT&T you suuucccckkkk mannnnn.
I still have my Streak but I really enjoy and like my Note.
Mine should be here Dec 23
Ordered it from Amazon, should be here Friday.
I was also one of those that emailed at&t, and got the same "we screwed up" calls from them saying that it was a computer issue, so after seeing others get the same response, fingers crossed...I ordered it.
One way or another, it WILL work, or at&t will get another call back (lady gave me a number to call back if I had issues)...
Bought my Streak Oct 2010, rooted it to install 2.2 after waiting for at&t to do something, Dell to do something and just did it myself. After various tweaks...it's about as far as I can go. It's been a pretty good device, never really had any issues other than pretty much zero carrier interest or manufacturer interest...when Michael Dell pretty much said screw Android, that was it for me.
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what is the deal on LTE for AT&T? Should I wait for the AT&T LTE version - or just go ahead and buy the UK version from Amazon?
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Do they have LTE in your area? If that is a benefit to you, then hold off and hope at&t actually gets it here in the 1st quarter of 2012. Me personally, H+ is about all we'll have for a while, I don't see the market I'm in getting LTE until 2014, if their slow rollout of H then H+ was any indication. Most of the time, other than checking a few emails, maybe a webpage or weather radar, I use wi-fi or hot spots, so the LTE version wasn't a consideration. Also, the branded at&t version won't have the home button, but the 4 capacitive buttons like the streak does, that is if you believe the leaks on the net, plus, I don't think at&t has a branded android device with a home button? or maybe it has something to do with some goofy patent that Apple has LOL.
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Do they have LTE in your area? If that is a benefit to you, then hold off and hope at&t actually gets it here in the 1st quarter of 2012. Me personally, H+ is about all we'll have for a while, I don't see the market I'm in getting LTE until 2014, if their slow rollout of H then H+ was any indication. Most of the time, other than checking a few emails, maybe a webpage or weather radar, I use wi-fi or hot spots, so the LTE version wasn't a consideration. Also, the branded at&t version won't have the home button, but the 4 capacitive buttons like the streak does, that is if you believe the leaks on the net, plus, I don't think at&t has a branded android device with a home button? or maybe it has something to do with some goofy patent that Apple has LOL.
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Ya know - I dunno? I am in NYC/NJ area. Would think we are getting LTE early in 2012? How do I find out?
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I considered the same thing, and got my Note just 2 weeks ago. (I'm in Baltimore)
We do have LTE here(baltimore city), though not where I live(though since I have wifi at home, that point is mute)
I decided to jump on the unlocked deal since I'm out of contract already, and wanted to use a iPad SIM for data only use. I use google voice for text/talk.
It's almost for sure that when ATT gets the Note it will have the snapdragon processor and NOT for exynos. It will possibly loose the physical home button. It will have horrible battery life(or at least worse then H+ version), just as Verizon LTE phones do.
I'm not willing to give those things up for ATT/locked down phone. H+ is very satisfying when browsing and watching netflix. Besides downloading files, I don't see where I need that kind of speed on the go. In Baltimore I get 6-7 down and 1.5-2 up. Not to shabby when I am just loading a few megabytes at a time to check gizmodo or watch a flick.
"Me too" - or rather I will be once the Note arrives. I have had a Streak since Autumn 2010 and it's been "ok" and I love the screen size - being large and fat fingered myself
I finally ordered the Note after seeing the official confirmation of support for ICS earlier this week. I bought from Amazon Germany on Tuesday and it's already showing it's with my local Citylink ("****tylink") this morning. About £100 cheaper from Germany than Amazon in the UK - or at least Amazon UK fulfilled.
I am looking forward to my Note as my Xmas present even if I was expecting it next week.
It arrived after some issue (Xmas I guess) where it lived in their depot in MK for 36 hours. First impressions: The screen is stunning. Same WxH as the Streak but thinner - once it's in it's cheapo case, it's still thinner.
Merry Xmas all

Looks like I'll be buggering off to the SGIII.

I was planning on using my upgrade (in July) to move to the Evo LTE, then HTC announced the non-removable battery. Since the SG3 is basically a wash on specs with the Evo LTE, but has a removable battery, I am going to end up using my upgrade to switch camps.
I just wanted to say thanks to all the devs who put in so much work on the beloved Evo OG. You guys really made this phone great and I know you don't get enough thanks or credit, just more demands from us.
Anyway, good luck to those of you who stick with HTC for the next two year merry-go-round.
yeah, i'm kinda pissed about the battery thing, too. any word on when sprint gets the s3? This is the latest i've seen, but no dates given: http://easternmorningherald.com/sprint-carry-samsung-galaxy-s3/126251/
wash in specs??
i think its spec wise its pretty damn in line with the evo lte. dual core, big ol camera, nice screen, ics, . (btw not a flame just trying to understand because i think the evo lte is def on the top of the android pile for the time being of course )
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wash in specs??
i think its spec wise its pretty damn in line with the evo lte. dual core, big ol camera, nice screen, ics, . (btw not a flame just trying to understand because i think the evo lte is def on the top of the android pile for the time being of course )
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A "wash" means they even out.
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Is having a removable battery that much more important than the million times better development support the LTE will get?
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I agree with the battery thing, I feel like its taking away my independence that I have right now with the OG. I take comfort in knowing I can bring along a spare battery or 2 on day trip where I'll be away from a power supply. I'm still weighing my options, right now that's the only turn off with the LTE. We'll see, I'm not in a rush.
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You know you can buy rechargeable charge cells, and if your battery dies, you can pull it outta your pocket and plug it in your phone for a fast fix.
Also, so far, people are reporting pretty damn good battery life on the lte
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You know you can buy rechargeable charge cells, and if your battery dies, you can pull it outta your pocket and plug it in your phone for a fast fix.
Also, so far, people are reporting pretty damn good battery life on the lte
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That won't solve the problem of the battery losing charge capacity over time. the way that I use my phone, my batteries lose about 50% of their charge capacity by one year. So I've already replaced two batteries on my Evo OG (most recently in December with another 3500mah Seido brick battery). Being unable to replace a battery means that over that stupid 2 year contract, I will get less and less use time from my phone, and more time on the charger.
So, yes, not having a removable (replaceable really) battery is a really big deal for me. I was also going to miss the kickstand, but I since learned that most case manufacturers have cases with kickstands build in.
The biggest unknown for me is how good the SG devs are. From what I've seen in the SGSIII subforum, it looks promising.
I have two reservations about the LTE:
1) I got the OG with hopes of using Sprint's 4G network. Turns out, it wasn't yet available in my area when I got the phone, but they promised it would be soon. Now that Sprint has abandoned WiMax, I can only use 4G when I go downtown. Who is to say that the same scam won't happen with LTE? What if Sprint jumps ship the second another new technology comes along?
2) The battery IS a big issue for me as well. As a chronic ROM flasher, what am I supposed to do when I experience the inevitable crash or freeze that requires a battery pull to restart the phone? Am I really supposed to just wait for the battery to die before I can get on my phone again? No, thanks.
So.. yeah the battery thing is REALLY an issue.. I just found out about that reading this thread..
Any who.. can't I just stick w my evo now n wait for someone to mess w a ROM that picks up 4g lte?? I don't know how all this junk works.. NOOB.. but I had a HTC hd2 which I THINK was only 3g.. flashed an android ROM n was able to pick up 4g on it.. then flashed an ICS ROM on it, 4g n other cool junk..
I'm pretty happy w my evo now.. so I'm just playing the waiting game until someone pushes out a FULL working ICS ROM.. I'm on sprint now so 4g is so much better than T-Mobile.. I guess ill deal w the lte issue when I really have to..
Anyone care to enlighten me some more??
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kingme23 said:
Is having a removable battery that much more important than the million times better development support the LTE will get?
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yes it is and sammy has a ton of development support with some pretty heavy hitters also or do you just not know or care?
ropodope
you WANT this ROM, you NEED this ROM, but maybe you can't HANDLE this ROM.
Delayed by quality control issues already Probably won't be an issue by time it gets here, just thought I'd share.
http://eurodroid.com/2012/05/29/samsung-confirms-blue-galaxy-s-iii-delay-due-to-quality-standards/
Traceamount said:
Delayed by quality control issues already Probably won't be an issue by time it gets here, just thought I'd share.
http://eurodroid.com/2012/05/29/samsung-confirms-blue-galaxy-s-iii-delay-due-to-quality-standards/
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at least it shows they care about quality control.
ropodope
you WANT this ROM, you NEED this ROM, but maybe you can't HANDLE this ROM.
Duolos said:
I have two reservations about the LTE:
1) I got the OG with hopes of using Sprint's 4G network. Turns out, it wasn't yet available in my area when I got the phone, but they promised it would be soon. Now that Sprint has abandoned WiMax, I can only use 4G when I go downtown. Who is to say that the same scam won't happen with LTE? What if Sprint jumps ship the second another new technology comes along?
2) The battery IS a big issue for me as well. As a chronic ROM flasher, what am I supposed to do when I experience the inevitable crash or freeze that requires a battery pull to restart the phone? Am I really supposed to just wait for the battery to die before I can get on my phone again? No, thanks.
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Think about what he said in 2), I bet this crossed a few of the minds over at HTC as well. Not saying this is the main reason for the non removable battery, but I'm all but sure it was thought about.
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I got you guys Source
This was JUST pushed out – you’re among the first to know @ 10:45 AM
On 6/21 Samsung Galaxy S III launches in all channels with access to the Sprint 4G LTE network.
Samsung Galaxy S III will be offered in a 16GB version for $199.99 and 32GB version for $249.99
Pre-order begins June 5 atwww.sprint.com/galaxysiii.
Feature rich
Samsung Galaxy S III is designed to deliver at 4G LTE speeds. Features include:
Android™ 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich
1.5GHz dual-core processor
2GB of RAM
2 cameras – 8-megapixel rear-facing zero shutter-lag camera with LED flash, 1080p video capture, intelligent camera features and facial recognition and a 1.9-megapixel front-facing camera
New features include:
S Voice™ is the advanced natural language user interface that enables search and basic device-user communication.
Motion simplifies the user experience by understanding the motion of the user. If the user is messaging but decides to call the person instead, they simply lift the phone to the ear and ‘Direct Call’ will dial the phone number.
Smart Stay uses facial recognition technology and the front-facing camera to identify the user’s eyes.
Sharing gets easier
Samsung Galaxy S III takes sharing media to a new level by making it fasy and easy.
S Beam expands on Android Beam™ to enhance device-to-device sharing through NFC technology.
AllShare® Playallows users to wirelessly connect Galaxy S III to their PC, tablet or television to immediately share files, stream music, user-generated videos, photos and other DRM-free content to AllShare-enabled devices using Wi-Fi®.
AllShare Group Cast lets the user share a presentation or photo album in real time with multiple friends on the same Wi-Fi network.
Share Shot allows photos to be easily and simultaneously shared with a group of friends directly from the camera using device-to-device Wi-Fi Direct.
Pricing and Plans:
Sprint offers Samsung Galaxy S III with:
16 GB Internal Memory Net Price for $199.99 (excluding taxes)
32 GB Internal Memory Net Price for $249.99 (excluding taxes)
Requirements:
A new line or eligible upgrade and 2-year service agreement.
Activation on one of the Sprint Everything Data plans plus a required $10 Premium Data add-on charge for smartphones.
The Sprint Mobile Hotspot feature will be available as an add-on.
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Think about what he said in 2), I bet this crossed a few of the minds over at HTC as well. Not saying this is the main reason for the non removable battery, but I'm all but sure it was thought about.
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Well to answer your second question, when you go into a loop like i did Saturday (installed the recovery incorrectly) you just hold the the power button and it will power down and i was able to get back to fastboot to reinstall it.
I'm happy with the LTE and I'm sure you guys will enjoy the SIII
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Development on this device should be second to none.
I was going to get one of these phones but since LTE is not coming out for a while I decided to pickup a slightly used Epic Touch 4G so that I can still have the Wimax speeds and wait until LTE is rolled out in my area to pickup an LTE phone. By then there may be other phones out or at least more used ones available for sale. By then I will also be able to view forum posts and see development progess on both of these phones before I purchase.
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I was going to get one of these phones but since LTE is not coming out for a while I decided to pickup a slightly used Epic Touch 4G so that I can still have the Wimax speeds and wait until LTE is rolled out in my area to pickup an LTE phone. By then there may be other phones out or at least more used ones available for sale. By then I will also be able to view forum posts and see development progess on both of these phones before I purchase.
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Haha same here man, that's why I'm kinda my upgrade isn't till next year, but that's also a little sad, but I'll be happy to get reviews from evo users
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Pre-ordered my SGS3 today with the (bad) assumption that Sprint will light-up the Atlanta LTE sites in sync with this product roll out.
I'll report back after I use it for a while.

Trade my Note for Galaxy Nexus or HTC OneX

Hey folks, First off, I LOVE my note. It's the only reason I stuck it out this long but to make a long story short it almost left my daughter stranded in a very unfamiliar place yesterday. I am currently on T-mobile and as you know we don't get much love as far as service with the Note. So I put up with the signal bar with a nice pretty little x in it many times because I flat out love my phone even though my wife would have 4 bars of 4g. Well this incident made me realize that while having an awesome phone that barely works as a phone or just about anything else without wifi that having service and signal is more important. So here is what I'm looking for:
Trade: My unlocked galaxy note (Currently running Asylum ICS V09) with black speck case and has liquid armor for display protection.
Want: Galaxy Nexus or and HTC One X ( maybe S for T-mobile as well )
Also willing to sell for $400 flat ( Nothing less will be considered )
So before I go to the craigslist or feebay I wanted to give my trusted XDA people a first shot at it So PM me if interested!
Hopefully I will be seeing you guys in the Note 2 forums one day as I will be dying to get my big momma back
seeing that many people complain about this, let me get it straight,:
can you not use an international unlocked phone in the states? why is everyone complaining about weak signal? it should either work on that frequency or not work at all ,right? so why work with low coverage?
either ways this sucks and is totally unacceptable
MR.change said:
seeing that many people complain about this, let me get it straight,:
can you not use an international unlocked phone in the states? why is everyone complaining about weak signal? it should either work on that frequency or not work at all ,right? so why work with low coverage?
either ways this sucks and is totally unacceptable
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Its not that it doesn't work. It's that it doesn't receive the 1700mHz band which T-mobile uses for it's 4g service. It will work fine on other gsm providers in US but unfortunately not on T-mobile until they convert to the 1900mHz band. So I pretty much get Edge wherever I'm at. One of our guys Bedwa has been working hard on getting it to work but there is no guarantees.
that should effect the speed not signal bars? I mean EDGE vs 4G is all about speeds
but you mention being with no coverage at all sometimes ? maybe their 4G coverage is better than 2G? is that it?
also I would suggest you change providers and not the phone ,cause you'll miss it
MR.change said:
that should effect the speed not signal bars? I mean EDGE vs 4G is all about speeds
but you mention being with no coverage at all sometimes ? maybe their 4G coverage is better than 2G? is that it?
also I would suggest you change providers and not the phone ,cause you'll miss it
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I used to work for AT&T so I refuse to go back to them lol. I know I will miss this beast, and I don't know the ins and outs of signal strength, I just know my wife has great service and laughs at me when I can barely send a text. If I wasn't invested into 3 lines of 2 year contracts with T-mobile however I would be gone in a heartbeat but I don't have the funds to quit right this minute. So I will reluctantly wait for the Note 2 and be back as soon as it releases
well then, good luck to you sir in buying your next phone
Both are good choices. If you like a pure experience go for the Nexus, if you like Sense go for the HTC One X.
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Atomix86 said:
Both are good choices. If you like a pure experience go for the Nexus, if you like Sense go for the HTC One X.
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Yeah, I did quite a bit of research before I decided what I would "step down" to before I posted. I actually like both devices very much. They both have their own advantages and disadvantages that I can easily work with. So like I said, if anyone knows someone who has either device but wants to get their hand on a note. Im up for the transaction
If I were you I would avoid the One X. The reason I got my note was because of HTC's ineptitude.
I PM'ed you.
OP, maybe the phone is faulty? What is your location? If you have any older Android phones, put your sim card in it, and force the Android phone to stick to EDGE/2G connections only to test the signal. If your older Android phone gets a single just fine, something is wrong with your Note.
I'm in the same predicament as you in terms of being on T-Mobile. Thankfully, I'm always within the area of WIFI. In terms of GPS, I just use the lab feature in googlemaps to precache map areas....and it works!
P.S. Open a thread in the marketplace. And be wary of anyone "PM-ing" you. Take the whole sale to the marketplace before doing anything just to be safe. And pay attention to any offers you get, and the person who is making the offer and their joining date. Good luck.
I just got hold of a Note after getting the One X. I wasn't entirely happy with the One so it will be going on ebay. The One has a great screen, and the f2.0 camera lens made taking low light photos easy. The downsides of the phone however are numerous in my opinion.
Design - the layout makes it hard to wake the phone one handed, as the power button is tiny and the capacitive home button doesn't wake it. The front camera is recessed, which makes it a grime magnet. The rear camera protrudes, making it a scratch magnet
Camera - excellent lens and camera app, average at best sensor (I actually think the Note takes better photos), poor quality HD video
Sound - forget all the Beats audio marketing hype, the One X has the worst sound quality out of any phone I've ever owned. The amount of hiss/crackles coming from the DAC make it sound like a long wave radio. I use my phone a lot for music, so this really put me off the One X.
Battery - in standard form the battery was terrible. The only way I could get a full day from it was to install a custom rom, reduce the auto brightness levels (which are blindingly high by default), turn off all push notifications and disable 2 of the 4 cpu cores. It also took 4 hours to charge!
Performance - very quick, but probably too quick for what the hardware can take. The phone gets incredibly hot when gaming to the point where the screen is almost too hot to touch. If you try and game while it's charging, you'll be greeted with a message telling you the phone is too hot and whatever you're playing will be terminated.
All these things made me try the Note. While it's not as snappy as the X and doesn't have a screen that's as nice as the X, it still performs well, still has a decent screen, better designed, has much better audio and has a phenomenal battery.
I think I'll be sticking with it
I use my note on tmobile I always have service sometimes I notice 1 bar but mostly have 3
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PoisonWolf said:
OP, maybe the phone is faulty? What is your location? If you have any older Android phones, put your sim card in it, and force the Android phone to stick to EDGE/2G connections only to test the signal. If your older Android phone gets a single just fine, something is wrong with your Note.
I'm in the same predicament as you in terms of being on T-Mobile. Thankfully, I'm always within the area of WIFI. In terms of GPS, I just use the lab feature in googlemaps to precache map areas....and it works!
P.S. Open a thread in the marketplace. And be wary of anyone "PM-ing" you. Take the whole sale to the marketplace before doing anything just to be safe. And pay attention to any offers you get, and the person who is making the offer and their joining date. Good luck.
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Yeah I checked into all that. When I am at my buddies house I get perfect 4g service. I just can't stand the edge stuff. However I did not realize you could pre cache map data. That's awesome!! So thanks for heads up
The problem sounds like T-Mobile. Why not use your phone on Straight Talk, which is basically AT&T. I get excellent service on my Note. I highly recommend any AT&T compatible phone on Straight Talk. My wifes iPhone 4S works great on it as well. $45 a month unlimited everything, 4G speeds, not like T-Mobile's very slow speeds.
thanks to Poisonwolf for the comment on marketplace. I didn't even know about it lol. So anyway I am no longer updating in this thread but here is the link to the marketplace thread if anyone is interested:
FS Galaxy Note GT-N7000
I'll trade you my nexus and a 16gb HP TouchPad.

Prospective Buyer Questions

Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
Joe92T said:
Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
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Well first off wrong section....
But now going into what you asked:
1. I have heard rummors that Best Buy and Radio Shack will be having specials for black friday...not sure of the price but it might be a good idea to research it.
2. Yes the Note3 is a global phone...and can used since it works with a sim card...btw i believe that all Verizon LTE phones are unlocked.
3. The Signal quality i think atleast on my device very good...then again i live in a big city...Miami.
4. The Note3 has a 3200 milli amp battery, which is considerable bigger then the GNex. That said im a heavy user always on the phone doing something i get about 15hrs, so yes the battery should last for you.
5. Most of the annoying things on the phone have been fixed by our Great Developers.
As for the Note3 getting the 4.4 KitKat update that would be a yes but as of now there is no set date....on a side note it would be really funny to see that Verizons Flag Ship Samsung device not getting 4.4. And if that is the case dont worry we usually get those too..
Welcome to the Best Place for Android Dev...!!!!!
I had a Galaxy Nexus and the biggest complaint was battery life. I had 3 batteries I carried daily.
This phone has worlds better battery life but the mod community is growing it is nowhere near the GNex.
Yeah im running 4.4 on my G-Nex right now, I love the features but its buggy and even on older roms like 4.3.1 and all that the battery life is horrendous - If i take it off the charget at 8 AM i have it plugged in at 6 that night or its dead and thats not even using it like crazy
Also the only deals I see (including Radio Shack) are for new line activations, nothing for regular line upgrades
I made the mistake of getting an 16gig iPhone 5S on launch day but just traded a guy on Craigslist for a like new Note 3 with spigen neo case. Verizon even allowed me to add total insurance coverage which shocked me being that its a Craigslist phone.
But the best deal in my opinion was the 30% verizon coupon that was active for a few days after release. Some people got the phone for $100 when they selected in store pickup. I'm sitting there ready to throw the 5S against the wall because I was so upset.
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Joe92T said:
Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
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I upgraded from a galaxy Nexus so hopefully I can help you out.
1 radio shack is supposed to have some good black Friday deals plus they will give you money for devices.
2. The note 3 is a global phone. I have an att note 2 and my sim will work with data included just by adjusting the proper apn settings.
3. The note 3 must have the same antennas as the Nexus because it's just as bad as my Nexus. I'm a bus driver so I travel a lot. I have a Motorola bionic which sees 4g often but the note 3 will be in 3g it's very frustrating. And in big cities Verizon is horrible because they have more users being the largest wireless provider and all.
4. This phones battery is amazing. The standby time is even better it won't budge.
5. I just hate the fact that the antennas suck. They really do.
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Best thing to do is go ahead and purchase one and play around with it for 14 days. Battery life will vary, every person uses their phone differently. Also signal will vary depending upon your location. Some people say signal/speed is better, some say worse. Black Friday is around the corner and you can probably get the price matched if the price does go down. Now, go ahead and grab one and enjoy all this Note 3 goodness!
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3. The note 3 must have the same antennas as the Nexus because it's just as bad as my Nexus. I'm a bus driver so I travel a lot. I have a Motorola bionic which sees 4g often but the note 3 will be in 3g it's very frustrating. And in big cities Verizon is horrible because they have more users being the largest wireless provider and all.
5. I just hate the fact that the antennas suck. They really do.
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Whaaaaat? I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus too, and it was never able to hold an LTE signal throughout my house.It would intermittently connect to LTE if I was next to a window on one side of my house, but that was it. Other places in my house it would drop to 3G signal that it could barely hold on to.
My new Note 3 holds an LTE signal throughout my house and still has great call quality while I hold the phone inside my clothes dryer (yes that's the worst signal spot in my house and I like to test phones by calling my landline while the phone is in the dryer.)
I think you must have a bad one because the radio in the Note 3 is miles ahead of anything else I've ever used.
jack584 said:
Whaaaaat? I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus too, and it was never able to hold an LTE signal throughout my house.It would intermittently connect to LTE if I was next to a window on one side of my house, but that was it. Other places in my house it would drop to 3G signal that it could barely hold on to.
My new Note 3 holds an LTE signal throughout my house and still has great call quality while I hold the phone inside my clothes dryer (yes that's the worst signal spot in my house and I like to test phones by calling my landline while the phone is in the dryer.)
I think you must have a bad one because the radio in the Note 3 is miles ahead of anything else I've ever used.
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As I stated I travel a lot. Do I think it's a better phone than the Nexus absolutely. But it doesn't hold a candle to the bionic's signal and that's a 2 to 3 year old phone. I constantly see the bionic holding a strong signal and the note 3 is on 3g. My Nexus was the same way.
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Bsmith0731 said:
As I stated I travel a lot. Do I think it's a better phone than the Nexus absolutely. But it doesn't hold a candle to the bionic's signal and that's a 2 to 3 year old phone. I constantly see the bionic holding a strong signal and the note 3 is on 3g. My Nexus was the same way.
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Hmm I guess I should try a bionic then just for kicks, lol.
But yeah it is true that moto is known for great radios so I can't really argue.
jack584 said:
Hmm I guess I should try a bionic then just for kicks, lol.
But yeah it is true that moto is known for great radios so I can't really argue.
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Just don't think I'll be going Samsung again. Antennas should be the most important thing id think.
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Bsmith0731 said:
Just don't think I'll be going Samsung again. Antennas should be the most important thing id think.
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I don't know why people are complaining about antennas. Coming from the Gnex, the antennas on this baby are above and beyond. Bsmith you likely have a defective radio in your N3, or simply a subpar radio. Logically it would have to be that because everyone that owns a N3 isn't complaining about reception (myself included).
To the OP - getting this phone is a no brainer, coming from ANY phone. I've never in my life experienced battery life/screen on time like this (I've gotten 8+ hours screen on time on a single charge). It also flies in every way, and you just can't go wrong with 3GB of RAM and the multitude of multitasking options at your fingertips. Multitasking is very important to me, and there's no other phone that can do it like this. For years I've felt the devices and software I've had just didn't get it quite right. Finally they have. Multi-window and pen window are ingenious, and they work without a single hiccup or stutter. This thing is a monster.
And if I went into every useful setting and tweak on the STOCK rom (out of the box), I could go on for hours. Add to all that the s-pen with all its features (I'm an artist so I'm in love with it), and the N3 is the champion among champions.
I will literally never get another brand/model. When the N4 comes out, I'll be the first in line. I've never been this impressed with a mobile device.

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