Nexus S - Without Contract - Nexus S General

Now that a lot of you'll guys have got the phone WITHOUT contract, does the device still have anything to do with T-Mobile ... any screens, apps or anything that links the phone to T???
I'm outside the US and wanted to try to order one online on day one, but all options on the bestbuy site had a T-mobile written within brackets on its side.
Could some one tell me they are different or all the same?
And can someone that ordered it from outside the US guide me how they got it?
Thanks

Sorry for bumping, but can anyone help??? Really would like to have one.

Absolutely nothing at all. You'll get an inactive T-Mobile SIM in the box (EDIT: this is probably just if you buy it from the US), but the phone itself has no ties to T-Mobile.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

People have reported that in the App Market, there is a a T-Mobile tab. Others have reported that once you remove the SIM card, the tab turns into 'Downloads.' That's about all I've read.

Other than preset settings for T-Mobile, I don't see any branding applications on the phone. I even have to download the branding applications from market.
The phone is SIM unlocked.

Hey thanks! So, that's one less thing to worry about.

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Unlocked X10a

It seems that the majority of X10's in the market seem to be the X10i variant, however I am trying to locate the X10a, so I can use it with AT&T 3G.
I found a few small retailer sites that do say they offer the x10a, but seeing as they aren't exactly the most reputable of online stores, I am a bit hesitant to order.
Has anyone found unlocked X10a's sold directly from SE? Or is my only option to get one from a wireless provider outside the US that supports AT&T 3G bands such as Rogers?
Yup, or from a Canadian/US seller on Ebay, or from a Canadian friend who owes you a big favor.
go to amazon and search "xperia x10a" there is one that is 564.99. it doesnt say which bands are on it, the others that come up with the search all say 900/1700/2100. you might could call the seller or amazon and see if it is the x10a or x10i. they should be able to look at the box and tell you.
cant find anywhere other than that possibility. I bought one off of ebay. most expensive thing i have ever bought on ebay, scared me to death, but everything turned out fine. just look for a reputable seller on ebay with lots of positive feedback, use paypal, hope for the best.
i can say this, i love this phone, also using it on ATT. with the rumors that ATT are forcing nexus one users to use the $30 data plan instead of the $15 ($10 on family plan), i couldnt come up with a better android phone to use on ATT.
i can unlock x10
hi everyone, i can unlock x10 via code. email me at [email protected] and include your contact number.
just wait, X10 is coming to AT&T.
Thanks for the input guys.
I've found a site that sells it for about $614 and free shipping. They accept Paypal payments, so at least I feel a little safer with their buyer protection. I'll let you guys know when/if I receive the correct product.
As for waiting for AT&T to start carrying the X10, that's not an option for me for a few reasons. First, my N97 is on it's way out. It's beginning to seem really sluggish and the slide lock key fell off... Second is that I have the unlimited data plan, and would not like to be forced to downgrade to their 2GB data cap. Lastly, after hearing how AT&T is locking down some aspects of their Android software such as in the HTC Aria, I would rather not let them get their hands on my phone.
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just wait, X10 is coming to AT&T.
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I don't believe it will.
I remember reading this about eight months ago and now with the Samsung Captivate headed there I can't see them bringing in the X10.
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Thanks for the input guys.
I've found a site that sells it for about $614 and free shipping. They accept Paypal payments, so at least I feel a little safer with their buyer protection. I'll let you guys know when/if I receive the correct product.
As for waiting for AT&T to start carrying the X10, that's not an option for me for a few reasons. First, my N97 is on it's way out. It's beginning to seem really sluggish and the slide lock key fell off... Second is that I have the unlimited data plan, and would not like to be forced to downgrade to their 2GB data cap. Lastly, after hearing how AT&T is locking down some aspects of their Android software such as in the HTC Aria, I would rather not let them get their hands on my phone.
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Ouch, rogers quoted me 499 plus
Just posting a follow up.
I received my X10 last night, only took about a week, i suspect had i ordered the phone on monday morning instead of night, I would have had it by Friday.
I did receive an X10a, but it was a Rogers branded phone, already sim-unlocked.
If anyone wants the seller information so they can order it for themselves, pm me.
Just curious, but how could you tell it was rogers branded? Was there a rogers startup screen, or rogers apps somewhere, or physical rogers logo on the phone exterior or something? The reason i ask is because i bought mine used on ebay, and when i popped my att sim in and powered up, there was never any hint that it had anything to do with rogers, or any other carrier. I have just always wondered if there was some way to figure out where the phone originated from. I checked th service info or system info or whateverr from the secret menu, but all it said was custom. Anyway, glad you got your hands on one. I got it as my first android phone, came from a nokia n95, and overall have been pleased with it. Certain things i miss, but the goods have definitely outweighed the bads.
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Just curious, but how could you tell it was rogers branded? Was there a rogers startup screen,
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Yup, there is a Rogers screen after the initial Sony Ericsson screen. Also, there are a couple of Rogers apps, the moxier apps.
Most important, whether Rogers or stock, if it is a X10a, it should say so under settings -about phone -model number - x10a.
Oh, it is definitely an x10a, came in a sony ericsson box with x10a on the barcode and everything, and in the device info is listed as an x10a, has the att 3g bands and works fine. I have just been curious since I got it if it originally came from a wireless carrier in another country. When I bought the thing, I thought that the only x10a models that were made were made for rogers, i wasnt aware that they even made a generic, factory unlocked, unbranded version of the x10a.
btw, i believe moxier apps are standard on all xperia x10's, regardless of i or a designation, or carrier branding.
Yeah, the Rogers carrier logo on boot was the dead giveaway for me. Also the fact that I couldn't manually change configure the AT&T apn until I unbranded it.
I am pleasantly surprised by the speed of the X10 though. It puts my hd2 to shame.
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SIM Unlock MyTouch (Use of foreign sim cards)

I logged in today and was surprised to see these three new threads about this already well known topic. So I'm going to try to put an end to this by merging all of the "Help me unlock my MyTouch" topics into this one thread and stickie it so that I can just move future posts directly to the trash. So be warned, any future posts regarding SIM unlocking WILL be removed!
The very first rule of the XDA-Developers forum is to search before posting.
So I figure that if this is stickied then there really isn't any excuse whatsoever.
While I'm doing all of this I want to clearify something for all of those that are interested in unlocking their MyTouch.
Currently (as of July 2010) there is no solution for unlocking your MyTouch without first acquiring the Subsidy key for your device.
There are no hardware hacks, software installations or anything like that.
You really only have four options.
Contact your carrier and request it. Most carriers have minimum requirements to be met before requesting. Check with your carrier for additional information.
Use of third party services (go ahead post your success in this thread).
Use of an overlay card. (I have not personally verified this method)
Purchase the device already unlocked.
If you have a successful result then post it in this thread and I'll update this post accordingly.
Please note that myself, other members or the XDA-Developers do not take responsiblity for failed efforts, damage to your device, money wasted or anything else that might make you upset.
Any new posts regarding anything already discussed in this topic will be subject to deletion without warning!
As stated above, I merged three three new topics and moved them to this thread.
I have tried several service and got a code that did not work. (another gave me another set and still didnt work). All had to go the the htc master database to get the code
The phone works on t-mobile but i want to use it in all countries.
And way to unlock the phone?
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My Phone locked by T-Mobile
Whats the way to unlock network ??
thanx
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Hi All,
I had used the search and found out that all the questions regrading Tmobile HTC mytouch sim unlock were refferd to pay-sites.
Is this true? did non of the forum members das an answer?
and if so, What is the most reliable site for this ?
I got a TMobile htc Mytouch 3g and I can not use it.
(I noticed that other members had said that all TMobile's MyTouch are sim free, well mine is not).
Please help.
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You could use something like a TurboSIM. It's a small film-like device that goes between the SIM card and the reader in your phone, forcing your phone to accept it. I don't know if all/any work on android/sapphire so you'd need to get a second opinion before ordering.
The only HTC Sapphires that come unlocked are the 'Google ION'/ADP2 devices, so yes you'll need to buy an unlock code. If you've been with tmo for more than 3 months phone them and say you're going out of the country, they should give you the code. If you're looking for a reputable company for unlock codes, go on eBay, that way you know the testimonials and feedback is real.
I've used SIM unlock services from ebay. Cost about $10 and was fairly painless. Had to try a few different sellers since the others couldn't find the code. HTC master key had to be used in order to get the code for mine, that's why they charged $10 instead of the usual $2-3.
Even at $10, I found it to be a lot cheaper and effective than other website prices.
xdame said:
I've used SIM unlock services from ebay. Cost about $10 and was fairly painless. Had to try a few different sellers since the others couldn't find the code. HTC master key had to be used in order to get the code for mine, that's why they charged $10 instead of the usual $2-3.
Even at $10, I found it to be a lot cheaper and effective than other website prices.
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Thanks for the info!
i use a overlay card like x-sim and its cheap and effective
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i use a overlay card like x-sim and its cheap and effective
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Thanks for that input. Please also include any additional information if you have it available such as:
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and any other information that you might find helpful for the rest of the community.
just the thread i was looking for!
does 3g work if its unlocked? im thinking of giving the phone to my gf because i dont think its worth it to sell.
also, i just canceled my tmo service and its expiring at the end of this month. had tmo for almost a year. do you think theyll give me the subsidy key? and last question, is the subsidy key the imei or is that the real unlock code for it?
thanks
manooti said:
just the thread i was looking for!
does 3g work if its unlocked? im thinking of giving the phone to my gf because i dont think its worth it to sell.
also, i just canceled my tmo service and its expiring at the end of this month. had tmo for almost a year. do you think theyll give me the subsidy key? and last question, is the subsidy key the imei or is that the real unlock code for it?
thanks
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3G will probably not work for another carrier if that's what you're asking.
If you are no longer a T-Mo subscriber then they will probably not give you the key.
You submit the imei to the unlock service (carrier or whoever) and they use that to look up your devices specific unlock key. Takes anywhere from a few minutes to a few days to get it though.
thanks for the info. sucks that i cant get the code from tmo. i should of gotten it before i told them to cancel my service. ill probably just use this phone for backup or something. i dont feel like i want to part with my first android device lol
root / upgrade locks me back?
I have an HTC Magic from Rogers Canada that I got unlocked as soon as I bought it. I need it unlocked since I am living over 5000 miles away from Canada. Everything is all well and nice now, working on the local carrier 3g and all.
I have been considering rooting the phone or maybe installing an unofficial ROM for a while now, but I never ended up doing it for fear my phone might get locked back to Rogers, rendering it useless for me.
What are the risks of this actually happening? Is the phone unlock a permanent operation, or are there any.types of upgrade or root that could bring the lock back?
Thanks!
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I have an HTC Magic from Rogers Canada that I got unlocked as soon as I bought it. I need it unlocked since I am living over 5000 miles away from Canada. Everything is all well and nice now, working on the local carrier 3g and all.
I have been considering rooting the phone or maybe installing an unofficial ROM for a while now, but I never ended up doing it for fear my phone might get locked back to Rogers, rendering it useless for me.
What are the risks of this actually happening? Is the phone unlock a permanent operation, or are there any.types of upgrade or root that could bring the lock back?
Thanks!
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Once you unlock the phone for other carriers it stays unlocked regardless of rom.
LOL
Anyway, There was a reason for my posting.
I ended up getting the unlock code from T-mobile and it is the exact number that I got from the unlocking service which did not work in the first place.
So I am wondering if the problem now lies in the fact that I rooted the phone and installed 3rd party rom before I unlocked the phone.
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As stated above, I merged three three new topics and moved them to this thread.
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So I am wondering if the problem now lies in the fact that I rooted the phone and installed 3rd party rom before I unlocked the phone.
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There is no way that's the cause...
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There is no way that's the cause...
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I can only agree. I don't see how that would be possible since the subsidy has nothing to do with the type of spl, radio version or rom.
the unlock code has nothing to be with rom... spl or radio only imei
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the unlock code has nothing to be with rom... spl or radio only imei
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Sounds like something that I had just said.
Success!!
Website: www.unlock2go.com
Cost: $20 USD
Delivery time: instant (even on a Saturday evening at 8:30pm)
Important note: I selected "T-Mobile" as the carrier, and then MyTouch 3G as the manufacturer, NOT HTC. Not sure if this matters, but thought I'd pass along that info.
Good luck!
Edit: So far we have 2 confirmed success cases. Anyone else that uses it please post up - would be nice to confirm reliability for everyone.
Hey Thanks for the site I used them and received the code less than thirty mins
I can also confirm unlock2go.com works! for Mytouch 3g
Sent them my payment 19-08-2010 at 11:40 pm EST and got the code by 11:50 pm !!!! all I can say is wow, it now recognizes my SIM in Colombia.
Tip: I used promo code unlock30 and got $2 off (paid $18).
Help! now that the phone is unlocked I'm stuck because I've got no data plan, and I can't find the way to go to Wifi, or even make a regular call. All the guides I find assume the phone is already working, but my menu, or home keys don't do nothing I get back to the green robot screen.
Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Simlocked nexus one (SFR - Vodaphone)

I went into a retail store of SFR and asked them about the Nexus one. The woman told me that the phones where locked to SFR network.
That girl told me that SFR will only unlock the phones after 6 months. I'm leaving the country in 25 days... She also told me that if I wanted to unlock it before I'll have to make it unlocked somewhere else... so
I've been browsing the net and honestly, It's hard to know where I can get unlocking codes for nexus one. Most websites I found weren't looking very legit...
And most people still believe that nexus one is always unlocked...but since Vodafone got exclusivity in France they decided to lock the device...
So yeah, where/how can I unlock a nexus one? (Receiving unlock codes)
Have you actually tried another carrier's SIM on your nexus one? In Spain Vodafone sells the nexus one unlocked and I bet most of the representatives don't even know about it, since they lock pretty much every other phone.
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So yeah, where/how can I unlock a nexus one? (Receiving unlock codes)
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Read this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616045
Read this > ...forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616045
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Already read it... Unsure if it's all good. I read in the forums lots of bad comment about htccode and some good comments. Hard to know if this thing is real or good comment are posted by puppet accounts.
Have you actually tried another carrier's SIM on your nexus one?
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I didn't bought one yet since I really need to be sure that I can unlock it before I leave. I can't tell if the girl is wrong about it but I called an other store and on the website, it's written that the phone is limited to SFR network. So unlike other EU countries. SFR apparently locked them.
I'd suggest getting a different sim from a friend and trying it out. I can't really believe they'd lock the N1 after all the publicity of it being an unlocked phone.
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Already read it... Unsure if it's all good. I read in the forums lots of bad comment about htccode and some good comments. Hard to know if this thing is real or good comment are posted by puppet accounts.
I didn't bought one yet since I really need to be sure that I can unlock it before I leave. I can't tell if the girl is wrong about it but I called an other store and on the website, it's written that the phone is limited to SFR network. So unlike other EU countries. SFR apparently locked them.
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They are not locked, mine is a SFR version, and it's unlocked, no nexus one has ever been sold locked, not even the Korean versions.
SFR staff and the phone house will tell you it's locked because they don't know better and all the usual SFR pack phones are locked but it's not.
I confirm also, bought mine from SFR to use it with a Sim from Orange.
People at SFR say it is locked, which is wrong.
@Doume
Really? when did you buy it?
As far as I know, phone sold before july 24 (or something like that) where unlocked. They were available in many store but now new phones are only available in "Espace SFR". Tomorrow I should get one and will be able to confirm if they are locked or not.
All nexus ones are unlocked. Even the vodaphone ones.
I should receive my nexus one in 2 or 3 days, retail stores we out of stock again so I ordered it online. Will update once I get it.
Ok so,
[off topic]I canceled my order from sfr. On all the step before getting that phone from a online order. I didn't go farther than the identity validation in 5 days. [/off topic]
So this morning I got my nexus one from someone who got it as a replacement for a nokia. He sold it as he had a blackberry. Anyway, a brain new nexus one for a fraction of the price they sells it without contract.
I inserted my old fido (rogers) sim card and it appears to work. There is a little "SFR" drawn inside but thats it.
I got some error reading the gsm card but I think it's an other issue.
So yeah, even if everybody in the SFR society thinks that it is locked. It is apparently not. On a side note, just to show how uninformed they are. On the spec of the phone they says that the screens only has 16bit colors. While it has been proven to have 24bit and able to do 32bit opengl. 24 bit RGB and 8 bit alpha.
Anyway, I'm happy. I have it now.
ps: the problem with my order wasn't exactly sfr's fault. The people to blame are the people at fia-net.fr. 1 week to identify who I am to sell me an overpriced phone vs 1 random guy that sells me a brain new phone (unpackaged) for a fraction of the price. It just doesn't make sense. I say that, but I'm still in the process of the cancellation of my order.
I bought a n1 this morning at a SFR store, Build EPF21b, and no simlock. Just the little red SFR symbol inside the phone - thats all.
Just went to look my build version. I remember it was something similar to you. But now after update, it is now FRF91. Not sure if that means we will receive OTA updates from google or from Vodafone. One thing is that we have a different set of "stock" app than the US version.

Clone sim, two phones one line, but only one active at once.

Hey, so I'm a sales rep for a large mobility provider in canada. I have a Nexus 4, but because we do not carry this phone, I'm not allowed to demo the phone in store (duh), and requires me to have one of our carried phones active during selling hours.
I don't really want to have to swap my simcard twice every day I work, and was wondering if there was any guides or info on cloning a Version 3 sim. Ideally, I'd like to shut down my Nexus 4 at work and then turn on another phone (probably will use my old HTC One S during selling hours), go about my day, and then after work shut down the One S and boot up the ol' Nexus 4.
Some people might say I can just use the One S in airplane mode and use wifi, but then I miss out on texts and stuff (allowed to text/go online during work hours if no one else is in the store). And I can't really have my nexus 4 on the sales floor.
I know that my company probably would can me if they found out I cloned a sim, but the way I see it is if I never have them both online at the same time, it's exactly the same as me just switching the single sim between phones.
If that doesn't work/isnt currently possible (i've googled a lot, haven't found many things that look like theyd even have a 10% chance of working), i was considering changing my Nexus 4 IMEI to my HTC One S, so on the account level it looks like I'm using my HTC One S, and I'd talk to my boss and see if that is enough and I can just use my Nexus 4 on the floor when no one is around. Is that possible? Would that gimp my Nexus from receiving updates? (it's currently stock rooted, if that helps.)
I understand these questions are sort of shady, but I am by no means using them for shady purposes, and I can provide a paystub to verify my employment if that would help, or if someone wanted to just PM me info on this, i would be greatful and send some money your way for a beer (paypal).
If any other workarounds exist, feel free to let me know!
You're right. SIM and IMEI mods discussions are prohibited at XDA, but you should have no difficulty finding other info sources. I always recommend the Sysmocom site, as the money goes back into research. They are some of the guys behind OsmocomBB etc... Good luck.
Thanks! I'll look into that.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Note 3 blocked by T-Mobile, need advice

Hey guys, i've got a problem and I need some advice/options.
Long story short, as some of you may know, I bought my T-Mobile branded Note 3 on Swappa in November. Of course, Swappa says that they check IMEIs and the seller assured me that the phone was fully paid for, but a few days ago my Note 3 was blocked/blacklisted (whatever you call it) by T-Mobile for non-payment of EIP.
I have tried to resolve the issue through communicating with the seller and Swappa, but there's really nothing to be done. The seller won't refund my money, Swappa is powerless, and Paypal says the transaction is past their 45 day dispute period. The phone isn't even unlocked, so I can't even try and use it on another carrier right now.
So at this point i'm trying to minimize my losses. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can either:
1. find a way to get the phone unlocked and use it on another carrier (I know that when a T-Mobile phone is blocked or blacklisted, they share that info now with AT&T, but i'm hoping I can use it on Simple Mobile or Straight Talk or Walmart's service)
or
2. sell the phone internationally (with full disclosure of the fact that the phone is blocked on T-Mobile/AT&T of course, but it shouldn't matter if someone wants to use it outside of the US, right?)
or
3. sell the phone as a 'dev' device (at a substantial loss i'm sure), but I have no idea how to do this or even whether a dev would want a phone that is blocked (don't they need to test network stuff?).
I'm trying to find a way to make the best of a bad situation. Any one who reads this post and wants to give me some decent advice is welcome. But if you just want to start trolling PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I have enough problems as it is right now.
In any case, i've learned my lesson. No more Craigslist, no more Negri, no more Swappa. I'm just gonna pony up the money and get my phones directly from T-Mobile. The money I thought I was saving doesn't look like such a deal anymore.
Ah damn, yeah seems a lot of people have fallen into the same trap you have unfortunately.
Well you could try another network. . However the chances are high that it'll be blocked all over the US. - yes you could sell it internationally and disclose the issue but the frequency has a different range(?) - this would probably be your best option.
If not then you'd just have to take the hit on it, toss it away or use as a media device. And put it down to a very bad lesson learnt the hard way :-/
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Ah damn, yeah seems a lot of people have fallen into the same trap you have unfortunately.
Well you could try another network. . However the chances are high that it'll be blocked all over the US. - yes you could sell it internationally and disclose the issue but the frequency has a different range(?) - this would probably be your best option.
If not then you'd just have to take the hit on it, toss it away or use as a media device. And put it down to a very bad lesson learnt the hard way :-/
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Appreciate the response, but now way I could toss $650 away. It took me a few months to save that up. That's why i'm trying to salvage whatever I can of this situation.
Perhaps there's a Canadian carrier uses the same frequencies as T-Mobile? Anyone know a site that would help me compare GSM bands/frequencies to see which countries would be the best option for reselling?
You could have a scan on gsmarena they detail frequencies on the different models.
Yeah it's definitely an expensive error for sure, assume T - Mobile aren't too keen to help at all then?
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You could have a scan on gsmarena they detail frequencies on the different models.
Yeah it's definitely an expensive error for sure, assume T - Mobile aren't too keen to help at all then?
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No, T-Mobile won't give me any info because i'm not the original account holder for the phone. T-Mobile will probably go after that person, but it's probably just a tax write off for them.
Try RegionLock away on Play store or buy an unlock code then try with a pre-paid service. GL
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Try RegionLock away on Play store or buy an unlock code then try with a pre-paid service. GL
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Won't help.... Phone has been blacklisted...
Unless you can get the carrier to take it off the blacklist it won't be allowed to connect to any network in that country (theoretically)...
Just a thought though - if the phone hasn't been paid for to the carrier, it's on the blacklist and you are caught trying to use it, you may find yourself charged with possession of stolen goods... Unless you have a receipt that states it was sold to you. Either way though you will loose the phone...
Techngro said:
Hey guys, i've got a problem and I need some advice/options.
Long story short, as some of you may know, I bought my T-Mobile branded Note 3 on Swappa in November. Of course, Swappa says that they check IMEIs and the seller assured me that the phone was fully paid for, but a few days ago my Note 3 was blocked/blacklisted (whatever you call it) by T-Mobile for non-payment of EIP.
I have tried to resolve the issue through communicating with the seller and Swappa, but there's really nothing to be done. The seller won't refund my money, Swappa is powerless, and Paypal says the transaction is past their 45 day dispute period. The phone isn't even unlocked, so I can't even try and use it on another carrier right now.
So at this point i'm trying to minimize my losses. I am open to any suggestions as to how I can either:
1. find a way to get the phone unlocked and use it on another carrier (I know that when a T-Mobile phone is blocked or blacklisted, they share that info now with AT&T, but i'm hoping I can use it on Simple Mobile or Straight Talk or Walmart's service)
or
2. sell the phone internationally (with full disclosure of the fact that the phone is blocked on T-Mobile/AT&T of course, but it shouldn't matter if someone wants to use it outside of the US, right?)
or
3. sell the phone as a 'dev' device (at a substantial loss i'm sure), but I have no idea how to do this or even whether a dev would want a phone that is blocked (don't they need to test network stuff?).
I'm trying to find a way to make the best of a bad situation. Any one who reads this post and wants to give me some decent advice is welcome. But if you just want to start trolling PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I have enough problems as it is right now.
In any case, i've learned my lesson. No more Craigslist, no more Negri, no more Swappa. I'm just gonna pony up the money and get my phones directly from T-Mobile. The money I thought I was saving doesn't look like such a deal anymore.
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bad luck for you.
But i can tell you a thing or 2 about selling phone internationally.
your t-mobile fone can be used here in SEA region and for the N3 its probably multi band.so selling it internationally shouldn't be an issue for you.but you'll probably want to sell it at a huge discount.
from past experience,t-mobile's GSM frequency is the same as those in my country and i have no issues using T-mo fone here.my signature should tell you what t-mo fones i had.but i cannot say if the 4g band is the same though.so dun worry about the GSM band being compatible or not,that's the buyer's responsibility.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands)
i am not sure if there is a way to sim unlock your fone without having to buy a unlock code(i noe the sensation 4g had a way to remove sim lock altogether),if you do find a way,there is no harm testing to see if you can still use the fone on other networks.
take it as a hard lesson learned bro but dun give up trying other ways to use your fone,i am pretty sure the journey is educational.like how i tried to make t-mo fones work in my country.
I might be wrong but its only blacklisted IMEI NUMBER? in UK its illegal to change it. But I think you end up selling it OK on ebay
with NO RETURNS OR REFUND!
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ultramag69 said:
Won't help.... Phone has been blacklisted...
Unless you can get the carrier to take it off the blacklist it won't be allowed to connect to any network in that country (theoretically)...
Just a thought though - if the phone hasn't been paid for to the carrier, it's on the blacklist and you are caught trying to use it, you may find yourself charged with possession of stolen goods... Unless you have a receipt that states it was sold to you. Either way though you will loose the phone...
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Yes, I do have a receipt from both Paypal and Swappa. But I think would only work if it has been reported lost or stolen by the original owner. I don't think that's the case. T-Mobile said it was blocked for non-payment of EIP. Guess the guy just flipped the phone as soon as he signed the contract. People suck.
frostmore said:
bad luck for you.
But i can tell you a thing or 2 about selling phone internationally.
your t-mobile fone can be used here in SEA region and for the N3 its probably multi band.so selling it internationally shouldn't be an issue for you.but you'll probably want to sell it at a huge discount.
from past experience,t-mobile's GSM frequency is the same as those in my country and i have no issues using T-mo fone here.my signature should tell you what t-mo fones i had.but i cannot say if the 4g band is the same though.so dun worry about the GSM band being compatible or not,that's the buyer's responsibility.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands)
i am not sure if there is a way to sim unlock your fone without having to buy a unlock code(i noe the sensation 4g had a way to remove sim lock altogether),if you do find a way,there is no harm testing to see if you can still use the fone on other networks.
take it as a hard lesson learned bro but dun give up trying other ways to use your fone,i am pretty sure the journey is educational.like how i tried to make t-mo fones work in my country.
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Yes, very educational. I used to buy my phone on Craigslist. I never once got scammed. But then Craigslist turned into Scam Central Station. So I went to Swappa because they use Paypal and I thought that would give me some protection. Turns out, the only way to ensure that you won't get a phone that will be blocked or blacklisted later is to get it directly from the source. It's turning out to be an expensive lesson. :crying:
How much of a discount do you normally get when you purchase a T-Mobile phone? I don't want to lose $200. It would make more sense to just get a cheap 4G phone and tether it to my Note 3 and use it as a little tablet.
jowett69 said:
I might be wrong but its only blacklisted IMEI NUMBER? in UK its illegal to change it. But I think you end up selling it OK on ebay
with NO RETURNS OR REFUND!
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Yes, I would have to do it that way, but i'm worried now about losing too much money trying to sell it. If I sell it internationally, I don't see why I should lose that much, since the T-Mobile block only applies to the US.
Another option?
I really don't want to lose my $30 5GB plan. I've been looking on Amazon and saw that they have some cheap T-Mobile 4G phones like this Nokia Lumia 521: http://goo.gl/KgvOgR
My thought is, I can purchase that, tether my Note 3 to it and keep using it. 90% of what I do on my Note 3 is data/browsing, gaming, etc. So if I can tether to the Lumia, I guess it would work.
Any thoughts?
Was the Paypal transaction a credit card one? If so, I would contact them directly (you may have recourse for up to 3 months?). I use Paypal but always use my credit card to pay for items and never my bank account because Paypal will not stand behind the purchase if they have a way out.
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Was the Paypal transaction a credit card one? If so, I would contact them directly (you may have recourse for up to 3 months?). I use Paypal but always use my credit card to pay for items and never my bank account because Paypal will not stand behind the purchase if they have a way out.
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No, unfortunately, it was a bank account. Sigh...
UPDATE
So here's an update on my situation.
After considering my options, I ordered a Straight Talk AT&T sim card a few days ago. It was only $7 with free shipping, so I figured I might as well give it a try. It got here today, so I got Chainfire's RegionLock Away app and followed the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742) to unlock my Note 3 using the Straight Talk sim card. Didn't have a single problem getting it unlocked. Total cost to unlock ~ $10.
Once it was unlocked, I signed up for the $45 Straight Talk plan (which ends up around $50 with taxes/fees), and after a couple of reboots, I have service. The service seems pretty fast, but I don't want to do a speedtest because it's just a waste of my limited data allotment. It shows as being 4G LTE, but I don't know if that's the case.
So, I pay $20 more for half the data, and I have a Note 3 that is worth considerably less than what I paid for it only a couple of months ago on Swappa. I've definitely learned a valuable lesson here. But at least I have a working phone, so there's that.
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys.
That's awesome and glad you are able to use the phone normally.
Techngro said:
So here's an update on my situation.
After considering my options, I ordered a Straight Talk AT&T sim card a few days ago. It was only $7 with free shipping, so I figured I might as well give it a try. It got here today, so I got Chainfire's RegionLock Away app and followed the instructions here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742) to unlock my Note 3 using the Straight Talk sim card. Didn't have a single problem getting it unlocked. Total cost to unlock ~ $10.
Once it was unlocked, I signed up for the $45 Straight Talk plan (which ends up around $50 with taxes/fees), and after a couple of reboots, I have service. The service seems pretty fast, but I don't want to do a speedtest because it's just a waste of my limited data allotment. It shows as being 4G LTE, but I don't know if that's the case.
So, I pay $20 more for half the data, and I have a Note 3 that is worth considerably less than what I paid for it only a couple of months ago on Swappa. I've definitely learned a valuable lesson here. But at least I have a working phone, so there's that.
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys.
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Sorry to hear about your problems. Even though a couple people had the same issue with phones from Negri Electronics, mine purchased from Negri still says that the IMEI is not recognized when checked and it works fine on T-Mobile or AT&T (tested with sister's T-Mobile SIM and daily use with AT&T grandfathered Unlimited) with LTE. I am very happy. T-Mobile was going to make me spend $791 + at least 45 days of unwanted service before I could even request an unlock and they have 7 days to respond (52 days of unwanted service?). That's not a deal.
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CZroe said:
Sorry to hear about your problems. Even though a couple people had the same issue with phones from Negri Electronics, mine purchased from Negri still says that the IMEI is not recognized when checked and it works fine on T-Mobile or AT&T (tested with sister's T-Mobile SIM and daily use with AT&T grandfathered Unlimited) with LTE. I am very happy. T-Mobile was going to make me spend $791 + at least 45 days of unwanted service before I could even request an unlock and they have 7 days to respond (52 days of unwanted service?). That's not a deal.
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Well, i'm glad that Negri made someone happy. There were plenty of people on this forum who felt they were getting scammed by them and had to cancel preorders after waiting 3 weeks for a shipment that never happened.
You might feel you're getting a deal, and maybe you are, and i'm glad for you. But for me, as I said, I learned a very expensive lesson from my experiences with both Negri and Swappa. It's only a deal when it works out the way you want it to. When you get screwed like I did, it stops being a deal. Not only did my phone get blocked, I now pay more money for less service. The extra $100 in savings isn't worth the risk for me anymore.

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