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2.2 update from rooted 2.1?

I recently aquired the Vibrant and all I have to say is OMG this is a fnatastic phone. it blows my cliq, cliq xt, and g1 out of the water.
Anywho, the one question I have now that my phone is rooted and has the clockworkmod recovery is when the 2.2 update releases around september-ish, will this effect the phone being able to update like it did for the cliq, or will i be able to flash 2.2 from root and just lose root. i would be ok with it at that point because 2.2 takes care of all the issues that i have with 2.1 update1. the only reason i know this is because i have 2.2 on the g1 and its amazing. any thlughts on the matter?

once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.

chucky80 said:
once rooted on this phone, you have to wait for one of the devs to dump a 2.2 flashable rom to get the update. This is why I am gladly waiting to get the ota before considering rooting. I love the phone as it is.
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yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?

boodies said:
yeah but I heard that if you just root only, you will be able to get the OTA update as you are still using the stock ROM. But if you are using a modified dev ROM, then yeah it will not auto update.
Can anyone confirm this?
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Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.

ok so its more in line with what the g1 used to do if you didnt go onto a modified rom. with the cliq, even if you root and are on the stock rom, you still cant load the ota update because it fails when you try to load it once downloaded. i dont mind losing root once 2.2 comes out, i just want to make sure i can get it. i was thinking of going back to stock without root, but i'm having some trouble getting the phone in download mode

danpaganelli said:
Yes this is the case, if all you do is root the phone, you will still get Tmobile updates. You might lose root, but as was pointed out in a similar thread, Samsung doesn't seem to care about locking things up, so you should be able to root again easily.
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Thanks for the input. Has this been the case for any other phone? Where rooting only will still get you OTA updates, or is this a theory?
Thanks~

Holy Hell this update is fast

Well, I had to jump through some hoops to upgrade, but I finally got the 2.2 OTA and it is FAST.
It's even faster than the leaked version I previously had on there.
The hoops:
I was on a rooted 2.2 leak so I had to flash back to 2.1, only the Windows flash utility failed at 97%.
Then I reset, cleared the cache and re-flashed (but this time in Linux) and it worked fine.
I booted into stock 2.1, re-activated my phone and then looked for the OTA.
It was there so I downloaded and installed.
I just finished reinstalling my apps and everything's good to go.

showson1 said:
Well, I had to jump through some hoops to upgrade, but I finally got the 2.2 OTA and it is FAST.
It's even faster than the leaked version I previously had on there.
The hoops:
I was on a rooted 2.2 leak so I had to flash back to 2.1, only the Windows flash utility failed at 97%.
Then I reset, cleared the cache and re-flashed (but this time in Linux) and it worked fine.
I booted into stock 2.1, re-activated my phone and then looked for the OTA.
It was there so I downloaded and installed.
I just finished reinstalling my apps and everything's good to go.
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overall speed-wise? i'm thinking to update mine. I'm on 2.1 stock with root. I'd be bummed to lose root since real HDMI is a godsend. do i have to unroot first?

i wouldnt upgrade if youre rooted. i tried and got stuck at the m logo and bootloader is changed so you wont be able to flash back the 2.1 so id either make sure you dont have any rooted apps and youre unrooted or stay with 2.1

Gotta say, with 2.2+LauncherPro I don't even miss root or custom ROM's.

iamrobk said:
Gotta say, with 2.2+LauncherPro I don't even miss root or custom ROM's.
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Same here, this is my setup too and it's awesome.
If you're rooted or on a 2.2 leak, I would definitely go through the processes of reverting to stock 2.1u1 (via SBF - http://rootzwiki.com/index.php/Smartphones/Motorola/Droid-X/Droid-X.html) before attempting the OTA update.

I hoped to see the OTA this morning but it wasn't there. So I checked for updates & there it was. It loaded fast & with no issues. I had factory 2.1 without root. I love it so far.
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iamrobk said:
Gotta say, with 2.2+LauncherPro I don't even miss root or custom ROM's.
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That's partly due to you clearing off your phone. I sbf'd back to 2.1u1 last night and reapplied the leaked 2.2, root, 2.3.15, tranquility, then serenity, and HOLY SMOKES this is faster than it was before I did this. Like, WICKED fast! And yeah, that's without the bloatware-filled OTA. Got the same system as you do too: 2.3.15, just leaked and deodexed

Except your missing the new radio and kernal Also im running the legit 2.2OTA, and have rooted it via the droid2 method..now just have to manually deodex it and ill be all set
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Just a heads up, I was running full stock 2.1, however I was rooted, and I did the OTA update with 0 problems. I lost root, but used the Droid 2.2 method and got it back. No issues whatsoever.

Joe92T said:
Except your missing the new radio and kernal Also im running the legit 2.2OTA, and have rooted it via the droid2 method..now just have to manually deodex it and ill be all set
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And those benefits are hardly that big.
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Problems with update
has anyone had any issues after update? A friend of mine has the Droid X, he was running original ROM not rooted, and he did the OTA update and is complaining that his phone is running slow and crashes periodically.

SirBrass said:
And those benefits are hardly that big.
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All im saying, is why bother with incomplete leaks? Why not take the little effort and do the real OTA?? I SBF'd back to 2.1.. Then did the OTA 2.2 Update, and then did the automatic 1 click Droid2 Root method.. and had a rooted, legitimate 2.2 update in less then 30 minutes after the initial SBF back down
What your doing is like buying a car with no doors on it.. Why run just the leaked system folder, when you can just get the total package that comes with an updated Radio and Kernal along with it? Why have an incomplete update with some components missing, when its not even that big of a deal to get the actual, 2.2 total package and have it rooted in 5 minutes anyway

Joe92T said:
All im saying, is why bother with incomplete leaks? Why not take the little effort and do the real OTA?? I SBF'd back to 2.1.. Then did the OTA 2.2 Update, and then did the automatic 1 click Droid2 Root method.. and had a rooted, legitimate 2.2 update in less then 30 minutes after the initial SBF back down
What your doing is like buying a car with no doors on it.. Why run just the leaked system folder, when you can just get the total package that comes with an updated Radio and Kernal along with it? Why have an incomplete update with some components missing, when its not even that big of a deal to get the actual, 2.2 total package and have it rooted in 5 minutes anyway
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I think you over-estimate the value of the kernel (which is actually the same version - just a different build-string) and the radio (which is a very small incremental bump in version).
The downsides to the upgrade (for hackers/themers) is that there is no sbf for 2.2 right now and it's been reported that once you OTA, you can not flash back to 2.1 via sbf or you'll brick.
If you're a 'stock' kinda guy, then OTA is probably the way to go. Those that like tinkering a little deeper, need the safety net of an SBF.

I agree. I personally think it would not be smart to OTA at this time if you have the desire to run anything other than stock on your phone (whether you can get root or not). I hear the new OTA doesn't run wireless tether for root users (not sure about this).
I'm still running the original 2.2 leak rooted. After all the problems I've been hearing about with tranquility, I would like to wait until I hear less complaints. Although from what I've read, most of the problems come from user error and people not following the instructions so I'm definitely not knocking P3Droid or Team Black Hat.

We have a system sbf file now for 2.2, that's all youll ever need unless you try something crazy, I have the OTA, rooted and also manually deodexed it myself and running my old theme I liked before.. Adfree is also working fine on my OTA unlike some others... What im saying is im not missing anything over the leak, If anything I have more. The 2.3.15 deodexed leak gives me nothing I don't already have because I was able to deodex and root the official myself.
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My friend's wife just did the ota 2 nights ago and her shortcuts don't work, the stock keyboard is laggy, and the photo gallery is not displaying photos
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Very strange, I haven't had a single problem with anything, and I've used everything you listed...,im even pulling 1490 in quadrants
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And I was pulling similar quadrant scores from the leaks which have the SAME STUFF as the OTA. All they did was increase the version number for the radios and kernel. Even the sbf TBH released isn't the full complete sbf I'd like to have for a safety net (though I trust them when they do say that it is good for everything except folks trying to get out of brick b/c they sbf'd to 2.1u1).
Besides, getting to OTA may be quick, but getting back to where my phone is NOW but with the OTA kernel would take HOURS. No thanks. Not till it is optimized and deodexed and cleaned up by TBH.

Running the OTA, and wile everything works, I'm not seeking an overall speed increase. Some individual things are definitely faster: the browser, gmail, lock screen. But, others are the same, and some, occasionally laggy (may be that's due to my apps? ADWlauncher?).
It's not that the system is slow, just that I don't see any overall boost (certainly not the JIT impact written about in the Froyo coverage).

Compared to 2.1, those things are much snappier. Also, clearing the cache helps with this too.
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New Fascinate Owner

Hello Everybody just wanted to say hello, I'm new to XDA forum, but have been on Droid Forum.net for the last 6 months, and since they get most of there stuff from this website i just decided to come here anyway I had a Droid X and was rooted and themed, and it was nice for awhile but there was just way to many problems witht he phone for me, so now I have the fascinate and LOVE IT ! I am however going to wait until 2.2 comes out to root the phone, so anyway thanks for having me !

Mrdanks said:
Hello Everybody just wanted to say hello, I'm new to XDA forum, but have been on Droid Forum.net for the last 6 months, and since they get most of there stuff from this website i just decided to come here anyway I had a Droid X and was rooted and themed, and it was nice for awhile but there was just way to many problems witht he phone for me, so now I have the fascinate and LOVE IT ! I am however going to wait until 2.2 comes out to root the phone, so anyway thanks for having me !
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
Welcome to the forums! But why wait to root? I was semi-bricked last night and had to use Odin to restore to stock, and it only took 15 minutes to re-root and do everything in my thread above. The phone will be much snappier and you won't have any bloatware.

Well I had the problem with the X about rooting then having to go back to 2.1 to update so I don't won't the same thing with my fascinate. Will it be the same process to root once we get 2.2 ?
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Mrdanks said:
Well I had the problem with the X about rooting then having to go back to 2.1 to update so I don't won't the same thing with my fascinate. Will it be the same process to root once we get 2.2 ?
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The devs will release a rooted 2.2 update shortly after the OTA is released. It's not something to be concerned about. The X has a locked bootloader, that's why. I'm not sure if the process will change. It's risky because it is always possible that they can block rooting with the new update.

Of well that would suck. Hey the lagfix is for rooted only right?
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Mrdanks said:
Of well that would suck. Hey the lagfix is for rooted only right?
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Yeah. Just be sure it's the Voodoo lagfix.

Best Rooting Method

So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?

Ive not rooted or unlocked the boot loader yet myself as this is my first android device im taking it slowly but according to threads in the development section you can root and upgrade as long as you do nothing to the device before upgrading, root the phone then upgrade to 2.3.3
This means flashing backwards first obviously.
As far as upgrading in the future you will be better off flashing a custom rom if development goes well. Custom roms will take this device further than official updates will.
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narflynn619 said:
So since as if we have already been abandoned by the Gingerbreak Project, what can you guys recommend to root my R800i without removing the ability to update the phone to higher Android in the coming months?
So you see I am really new to Android and I have little knowledge on unlocking bootloaders and the like that's why I stuck to Gingerbreak last month. Now that I have updated to 2.3.3, yeah everybody knows Gingerbreak no longer works.
I cannot consider reverting back to 2.3.2 since the 2.3.3 update really improved the battery performance and I'd still choose that over the ability to root on the 2.3.2. But then, bottom line is we really love our phones rooted.
So to cut the crap, anyone please recommend the best method to root the R800i (I would be open for tutorials) whilst preserving our ability to update to better versions in the future?
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See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090. Follow the steps and you shall have root on 2.3.3 . I have also opted to "freeze" the bloat this time instead of just uninstalling it, in hopes that when 2.3.4 arrives i can do the ota update again and still keep root.
Also @ -josh- rooting will not damage your phone so its safe to root. I am also a first time android user myself but following the steps in the thread above worked fine no problems. And even if it didnt you can use SEUS to fix a phone with a locked bootloader

I rooted my phone when i was using 2.3.2 and found a good improvement.
Then i updated to an unrooted 2.3.3.
Ive left it unrooted for now. 2.3.3 performance is better than a rooted 2.3.2 i find.
It would be nice to root and remove the bloatwarw and overclock to 1.5 ghz, which can now be done. But for now i am happy.
Aside from a few Gameloft games not working, 2.3.3 is outstanding.
Not going to root until something major happens. Only reason i can see to root is to clock to 1.5 ghz to get n64oid working better.
Other than that, no point imo.

i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!

You can are not supposed to flash to 2.3.3.. You are supposed to flash your phone to 2.3.2 uk generic version. After root your phone and through your phone you go to settings /about/update software and upgrade it there without hooking it to the computer. Make sure that your bootloader is LOCKED, otherwise you brick your phone.
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All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..

Deoxlar said:
All gameloft games work with 2.3.3. Delete all the data files in game/gameloft and redownload all the games. It will work
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I uninstalled all my non-working gameloft games.
Anyway i can get them back without purchasing them again?
narflynn619 said:
i have already tried the 2.3.2 root then flash to 2.3.3 method to no avail.. i don't know what im doing wrong but i think it's because my handset's a HK one, had it bought by someone in HK then i am using it here in the philippines. i'm not considering flashing custom roms either since i can't trust others' hands playing around roms, hehehe.. sigh!
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Use this to get to 2.3.3 unrooted. Everything will be put back to stock.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/sup...ds/subject/updateservice/1.915711?cc=gb&lc=en

Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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narflynn619 said:
yah yah yah yah i did all that before and still nothing..
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You are clearly doing something wrong, the only phone that can't be rooted is the version version of the play.
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Deoxlar said:
Yes go to the website on the stock android browser, enter your phone number. All games purchased for your business device will be there for one year.
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Thanks for this info.
Unfortunately it didnt work for me. I only have one game in the list which was Asphalt 6.
Ive bought about half of them so there should be plenty more in the list but they are not there.
Ive emailed customer service. Not really that bothered if i get them back or not but i wanted to play Sacred Odessy again. It stopped working when i updated to 2.3.3.
Nevermind.

Don't email them. Call them. Email takes more then a week for each reply. Calling us 10 minutes wait
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sheise. i've been on 2.3.3 unrooted for weeks now and i'm sick of the bloatware... flashing a 2.3.2 UK generic ROM via FlashTool gives back an error that's why i stuck to 2.3.3 unrooted..
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oh well, the root-the-2.3.2-then-update-to-2.3.3-via-OTA method suddenly worked today.. sheise!

Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?

crimsonnight said:
Does flashing the phone complete erase everything?
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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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so everyone still uses FlashTool? it gives me back an error so i used WotanClient. Worked like a charm! I'm now on 2.3.3 UK Generic ROOTED! and works like anything else here in the philippines!

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It's better if you choose to erase personal files.. It's an option that you check off before flash. That being said, nothing on your sd card gets touched.
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Thanks, so if I want there's an option to keep all my data/settings? Basically I could flash a rooted version of 2.3.3 onto my xperia play running 2.3.3? Cheers

Rooting and debloating Froyo

So froyo is leaked and installed and all is fun (seems to run a bit slower than 2.1 to me, especially during start up) but I have the problem of A TON of bloatware.
Anybody played around yet? I've frozen a few of them but unsure of what all is good and bad.
How about root? The newest version Z4Root does not work, it stalls and you have to force close it.

got a link to the 2.2 download?

filesonic.com/file/1597204534/Blur_Version.2.159.17.MB508.ATT.en.US.zip
this is the beta version that was leaked out. Go thru all the steps to get the free download, the waiting and blah blah blah.

boazjuggalo said:
How about root? The newest version Z4Root does not work, it stalls and you have to force close it.
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Have you by chance tried an older version?

pre4speed said:
filesonic.com/file/1597204534/Blur_Version.2.159.17.MB508.ATT.en.US.zip
this is the beta version that was leaked out. Go thru all the steps to get the free download, the waiting and blah blah blah.
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They have released the non-beta on the motorola site. the only issue is. that it won't install on a rooted phone so you have to undo your root first

thebluetoothkid said:
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Hi!
Well, I made some post with the info that good people make available and that I collect to try to make it easy,in this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211799
I already made the update since 2 days ago and very happy, in my case I found very usefull that at leats by now some usefull 2.2 tricks are very welcome like move some apps to sdcard and few other, but as new detail in my case the 2.2 update is detecting one of my 2 batteries as non original moto, and refuse to charge it, but in 2.1 it works perfect and could be charged...
So, for me is stable and hope that could be better the final release (if it may really happen, since Moto put down the page about the release.... :-/ so could be lucky that at least we have this beta, for possible future roms)
Best regards!

Froyo runs faster and it has a great file explorer built in. The only thing that sucks is that there is even more bloatware from AT&T
I have the phone unlocked and in Canada so my unlock stayed and unknown sources is still available after the upgrade
hope there are some edits soon they get rid of all the bloatware, there are legitimately 12 bloatware apps from AT&T on the phone now.
The interface is a little bit sleeker and the boot up of the phone is now silent, which i love since the old boot up was a bit to loud.

xaser, your guide is what I followed to do mine and I really apprecite your time to put it up. Worked great.
Somebody said the full update is up on moto, anybody got a link? I couldn't find anything.
No I have not tried an older version.
Anybody had any luck with a root on the beta? Or the full version either one?
Are we sure this "beta" isn't the full version? The Android Version in About Phone just says 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.2b like i'd expect with a beta.

boazjuggalo said:
xaser, your guide is what I followed to do mine and I really apprecite your time to put it up. Worked great.
Somebody said the full update is up on moto, anybody got a link? I couldn't find anything.
No I have not tried an older version.
Anybody had any luck with a root on the beta? Or the full version either one?
Are we sure this "beta" isn't the full version? The Android Version in About Phone just says 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.2b like i'd expect with a beta.
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Here is the official upgrade
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/1004

thebluetoothkid said:
Here is the official upgrade
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/1004
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Hm, won't show an update for me running 2.2 beta... guess i'm goign to have to flash back to 2.1

boazjuggalo said:
Hm, won't show an update for me running 2.2 beta... guess i'm goign to have to flash back to 2.1
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Could you tell me how to flash back to 2.1?
Thanks

sharethl said:
Could you tell me how to flash back to 2.1?
Thanks
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Use caution... I flashed back to 2.1 once by simply following the guide in the development forum again. But tried to do it again this morning and my phone bricked. So I had 50% success which is too little for me to suggest it.

boazjuggalo said:
Use caution... I flashed back to 2.1 once by simply following the guide in the development forum again. But tried to do it again this morning and my phone bricked. So I had 50% success which is too little for me to suggest it.
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I see, Thanks for your advise.
Why Motorola make the phone so un-opensource!!!

I know the only issue I had with reverting my Flipside was the RSD software, 4.9 wouldn't detect my phone but 4.5 worked perfectly fine
It's been a day so far and froyo is working perfect on mine

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I know the only issue I had with reverting my Flipside was the RSD software, 4.9 wouldn't detect my phone but 4.5 worked perfectly fine
It's been a day so far and froyo is working perfect on mine
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So have you tried to reflash? and as for rooting, have you been able to do so?

pre4speed said:
So have you tried to reflash? and as for rooting, have you been able to do so?
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I didn't need to reflash, I used RSD to downgrade. Since I had my phone rooted. then I just ran the official upgrade and it's been running like butter for me, real smooth.
I've searched all over for info on rooting froyo on the Flipside and it looks like it's going to take awhile because they locked the phone down tight and the few guys that have rooted the phone have started experiencing problems with the phone because of the root.

FYI:
SUPERONECLICK TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!
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rignfool said:
FYI:
SUPERONECLICK TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!
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SUPERONECLICK can root froyo, I just tried, and working.

sharethl said:
SUPERONECLICK can root froyo, I just tried, and working.
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Which version of soc did you use? I have had problems rooting with it ever since I updated to the most current version, but I dont remember which version I used that worked fine. I ended up sideloading z4root to gain root, but from what im seeing, that wont work. thanks! Im almost ready to upgrade.

pre4speed said:
Which version of soc did you use?
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I just successfully used the latest version, 2.1.1