This thread is for reviews of the stock JL4 build that can be found in the following threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876383
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876335
Testing out what was discussed in the Town Hall Meeting.
A couple review guidelines:
Make sure to mention in your review if you are running the ROM with any mods or lagfixes.
"This ROM rulez" or "this ROM suckz" is not a good review. Please explain specifically what it is that you like about this ROM and what it is that you don't like.
Screenshots are always appreciated.
Everyone has different needs for a ROM and people's needs are unique to how they use their phone. What is a dealbreaker for one person may not be for another person. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and flaming them for it is NOT OK.
Not liking a ROM is not grounds for personal remarks against the devs.
I ran this ROM for about 14 hours before restoring to JI6. It was nice and fast. Everything seemed to be working correctly. Still did not have stock android keyboard by default so I had to add that in, of course the haptic feedback on that did not work.
Tried some MMS tests and they seemed to come in blurry. I don't think this is so much ROM issue but more so an issue where T-Mobile MMS servers do not recognize the build so they send the pic to me in a lower res in order to make sure I get it. Once the ROM build can be recognized by the MMS servers the pics should come in with the correct resolution.
GPS, Wifi, and 3G all worked great. GPS I first ran Samsung GPS Restore and then tested with several GPS apps. Got 12/12 satellites in under 5 seconds. Accuracy was down to 10 feet.
All in all a good stock ROM, did not see any of the Rescue apps that showed up in previous leaks, I would not be surprised if this ended up being released as official.
I had T959UVJK6 - Stock and took the JL4 stock and Odin and its running now. i found the Market is updated. I did not check Maps or GPS yet and no wipe or anything of that sort just clean and simple.
You dont need any of the 2.2 leaks for the new market. I'm still running stock and it eventually popped up on my vibrant.
All of my previous roms had been taking an inordinate amount of battery during phonecalls. I chalked it up to the antenna signal being weak and having to work extra to get signal.
So i began comparing with other android handsets and try enough their signal strength (dBm) would always be better than mine.
Now, with this rom, the signal strength is beyond fantastic. At least in terms of the number. It hardly goes above 84 dBm while in previous roms. A 86 dBm would be the best i ever got, and even that would be for limited periods of time. It would hover around much larget values which are bad.
Other than that, the ROM has much to much bloat which is eating up CPU cycles. But it has the 3E recovery so i cant boot it. And i cant figure out how to do the fix (even though i do know that there is a a thread for that)
So i am waiting for an odin rom which is rooted and Deodexed and hopefully bloatware free. Otherwise it is a brilliant rom. (oh, btw, no stock andorid keyboard as well.)
hey guys, dont know if this works for everyone, but i flashed from stok ji6 to jl4 using odin and everything was fine except the error msg i got for mms "error in server response". a tmo rep actualy helped me and he fixed it. if your problem is the same, go to the camera, slide the menu from the side, hit settings, go to resolution, change it to 3.2mp, take a pic and send. it should work and then you can change it back to 5mp. thought id share since thats the only problem i had so it seems great now
JL4 has been working great for me. It finally pushed me over the JI6 hump. I used Titanium to freeze most of the bloatware. The writing to internal/external SD is fixed. With the previous fix, I could write to one or the other but not both. My "own number" shows up which in my case was needed for my Verizon FiOS Remote DVR app to work.
Regarding the blurry MMS issues, I've never had it. But then again, I strictly use Handcent.
Battery life, I don't know about yet since I haven't run a specific build for more than 24 hours. Been going flash crazy trying everything out.
Oh wait... I did notice one minor issue that hasn't happened every single time. Sometimes after unplugging the micro USB cable, status bar still shows connected.
YatimaMeiji said:
You dont need any of the 2.2 leaks for the new market. I'm still running stock and it eventually popped up on my vibrant.
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Yea, I was in the market, made a mistake and closed it. Opened it again and the new one was there.
It force closes way too much for me. At least 10 times a day the damn thing force closes on me (I'm desperately trying to find useful apps for my phone, so I'm in it a lot lately).
Stock JL4
Running it since it became available. I love it, not very different from stock JK6.
Pros:
No force closes yet.
No noticable problems
Flash working fine
Quadrant cpu score slight boost form JI6
Wifi calling
Better battery life than JI6, and same as Jk6.
I have always liked Touchwiz
Cons:
-When running touchwiz, widgets still cause a slight lag when scrolling through the 7 homescreens. This is just touchwiz, and has always been like that.
-The new JL4 modem in my opinion doesn't offer a strong 3G signal like JK6 did.
-I can't turn off geotagging in camera mode
SamsungVibrant said:
Running it since it became available. I love it, not very different from stock JK6.
Cons:
-When running touchwiz, widgets still cause a slight lag when scrolling through the 7 homescreens. This is just touchwiz, and has always been like that.
-The new JL4 modem in my opinion doesn't offer a strong 3G signal like JK6 did.
-I can't turn off geotagging in camera mode
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That's something I just noticed. Signal bar wise, seems to flucuate like the original JFD in 2.1 and doesn't stay as full bars as much. But, speed wise, it seems okay. I don't really care what the bars say anymore as long as I can hold a 3g connection.
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Just flashed JK6 modem and it does seem to be more consistent then JL4 for me. Also applied Voodoo Lag fix to it and it's screaming fast to my eyes now.
I'm really impressed with this rom. Very snappy out of the box, signal strength is amazingly improved for me! Very noticeable improvement.
Update: GPS is much improved...saw 14 birds and locked on 12 in 7 seconds. This is a huge jump from any previous rom I've used.
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*thumbs up*
Performance was good on its own (no lagfix). There was very minor lag when an app installed in the background, loading the app drawer sometimes, and the new Market (which was a more noticeable lag). Still, it was nothing compared to stock Eclair. There was also no real wakeup lag to speak of. Pretty snappy for a stock build. I just Voodoo-ed it up anyway because it makes it that much more smooth and fast. With Voodoo, apps load faster, including the new Market.
Modem is working out well so far. According to my signal widget, I'm getting H speeds in my home, though I don't think this build has an H indicator in the Notification Bar.
GPS locked on quickly with no problems. My problem was never locking. I was always losing the lock and never regaining it during navigation so I will update after I use it for an actual trip.
Update: GPS stayed locked during the whole trip. I am impressed. I should also note that I ran Samsung's GPSRestore app before using the phone for Navigation and that this is the updated version of Maps.
Since this is a stock build, it came with all the T-Mo bloatware, which I uninstalled with Ti Backup. If you like WiFi calling, this would be a good choice for you. Note of warning: if you uninstall WiFi calling with Ti Backup, it will keep FCing so you will have to force reboot by holding down the power button for 10 seconds. It's fine after that.
My battery life has been bad since a couple of builds ago so I can't really accurately comment on how it is. I can edit after a recalibration.
Overall: stable, fairly fast and with no glaring problems to speak of. If you like stock, grab this ROM.
I just noticed I'm not getting voicemail notifications. Anyone else notice?
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ljv said:
I just noticed I'm not getting voicemail notifications. Anyone else notice?
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Did you set up Visual Voicemail?
No I didn't as I don't use visual voicemail. Br1cK'd suggested the following which I totally forgot about since I've seen this before.
"Did you set your voicemail carrier to your service provider? This is set under settings, call settings, voicemail. I noticed in the newest ginger clone which is jl4based that google voice is a voicemail option in that menu, I haven't noticed that in any other previous roms/frameworks, and wonder if that may affect your notifications."
Unfortunately, I already went back to JI6 and once again flashing back to JL4 to try it out.
ljv said:
No I didn't as I don't use visual voicemail. Br1cK'd suggested the following which I totally forgot about since I've seen this before.
"Did you set your voicemail carrier to your service provider? This is set under settings, call settings, voicemail. I noticed in the newest ginger clone which is jl4based that google voice is a voicemail option in that menu, I haven't noticed that in any other previous roms/frameworks, and wonder if that may affect your notifications."
Unfortunately, I already went back to JI6 and once again flashing back to JL4 to try it out.
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I had never noticed that option that exists in stock JL4 as well. Thanks for that.
I get "This bookmark cannot be deleted" when trying to remove any of the stock web bookmarks.
Is there anyway to remove these?
Ravynmagi said:
I get "This bookmark cannot be deleted" when trying to remove any of the stock web bookmarks.
Is there anyway to remove these?
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install a 3rd party browser to delete bookmarks.
iynfynity said:
install a 3rd party browser to delete bookmarks.
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Not sure how to delete the default web browser's book marks with a third party browser. When I install Dolphin, I don't see these bookmarks.
Ravynmagi said:
Not sure how to delete the default web browser's book marks with a third party browser. When I install Dolphin, I don't see these bookmarks.
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use skyfire. it's just like a stock browser.
Related
This is a thread that could become irrelevant at any time with the release of a new firmware, but..
In people's experience, which if these firmwares is faster, more stable, and less laggy?
I have a Galaxy that I upgraded to JM2, but I'm not playing around with it much as it's a present for somebody - I just wanted to have it up to date when I give it to them.
So I haven't seen the difference in daily usage. Any thoughts?
On just playing around on the home scree, adding and removing widgets, they both seem pretty fast.
Thanks guys
I've not really benchmarked the different roms to be honest, but I have JM2 and have noticed that the phone lags a little when opening, closing and working within various apps.
3Banana notes is quick for me, whereas Seesmic lags when I hit 'compose' for a new tweet. The default media player is pretty snappy opening, as is the market, but other apps are slow...
Not sure whether it's a phone thing, a rom thing or an app thing.
i flashed from JF3 stock to JM2 and notice its a little quicker in day to day activitys but i still get the app lag when opening certain apps like mentioned above.
I think no firmware so far in entirely lag-free! You DO need the sdcard fix!
kalpik said:
I think no firmware so far in entirely lag-free! You DO need the sdcard fix!
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I don't apply any of the firmware updates, but just SD card fix. Rarely notice big lagging now.
For me, JM2 gives me the best performance. I'll give it a day or 2 to see if I even need the sd card fix.
I ran the Quadrant Standard bench on JM1 and JM2. While the JM1 got a 940 result the JM2 gets only 880 points, and it sims a little slower than the JM1. Even the accelerometer turns the image after a longer period. Both have a very good memory management, sometimes I get 270 MB free out of 326MB, and it stays in the range without the need of a reset after a long period of use.
I have heard the card fix really works...but the process seems very complicated to me. Perhaps I'm just a numbskull, but I dont understand how to do it...
...I dont want to do stuff that will brick the phone, unless I really know what I'm doing?
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I ran the Quadrant Standard bench on JM1 and JM2. While the JM1 got a 940 result the JM2 gets only 880 points, and it sims a little slower than the JM1. Even the accelerometer turns the image after a longer period. Both have a very good memory management, sometimes I get 270 MB free out of 326MB, and it stays in the range without the need of a reset after a long period of use.
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I think you have the memory bit wrong - it's showing 270MB USED out of 326MB (at least for me... I've never seen it dip below the 200s.
I just upgraded from XWJG5 to XWJM2. Good thing I ran Titanium Backup first! I didn't realize the flash would wipe all of my data. So far so good.
If you use a kill application the best I have seen so far is around 93MB free as Task Manager restarts by default.
The built in kill application on JM2 only kills battery hog applications which are running not the run of the mill applications running in the background.
Yes, I did notice the native Task Manager.
I have noticed with this firmware that the MarketEnabler is not working. I can't download some of my paid apps.
TMW597 said:
Yes, I did notice the native Task Manager.
I have noticed with this firmware that the MarketEnabler is not working. I can't download some of my paid apps.
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Use Eris Market fix from the market
Sent using Samsung Galaxy S
I wish it were so easy. I have never had success with Eris. I have had success with MarketEnabler, but the latest version may need an update to work with the latest firmware. Very frustrating though. Fortunately for me before I did the firmware upgrade I used Titanium Backup. Had I not I would have no Slingplayer or other paid apps on the SGS right now.
Back to Eris, I installed it last night well before midnight, cleared the cache, did the reboot and waited until this morning it being a new day, and still no luck.
Hi All,
So I updated from JG5 to XM1 then XM2. Moving from JG5 to XM1 was very laggy and seemed that XM1 might have been on the Alpha release level, it was good but too buggy.
I then upgraded to XM2 from XM1 and found significant improvements. Then I started to notice things that would normally work would not. The GPS didn't work, the market didn't work, titanium back up, kept getting interrupted during restore even when using after a clean reboot. Browsing through the phone was generally slower and menus would take a while to load.
XM2 seems great on first boot, but after you start loading some of your apps in and customize it to work the way you want it to, then you have problems.
I went back to JG5 as it is far more stable and reliable. I might wait till Froyo before I flash again, i've probably done 12 different flashes in the past 2 weeks.
Let me know if anyone has had better luck with XM2.
on my part.. i can say that JG5 is still the fastest and operates more stable than JM2 at stock settings no rooting done.
installed samset 1.6 and seemed to get abit slower in opening applications..
..will go back to JG5 for now.. hehehe
|| disclaimer: other users may experience differently. ^_^ ||
Im wondering why the phone is reporting more than 256MB usable since the current kernel version only allows upto 256MB
I found JG5 more stable whereas I have encountered few issues with JM2, market behaves strangly installed apps not showing status installed. More bugs in JM2, more lagging and apps taking longer to load like sky news i think I will go back to JG5.
JG5 is an official firmware? I mean App market will work without Eris Fix ?
Thanks !
Is JG5 an official firmware on which App Market is working without Eris fix ?
Thanks !
Hello all. Well, last night I rooted my phone and then was going to install the original wireless tether app that Jr33 did.
My problem is when I tried to make a backup after it rooted I now get this:
Opening update package...
E:Can't open /cach/update.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted.
From here I can reboot or reinstall but it does the same thing and just brings me back to rebooted with no backup made as far as I can tell. There's never a choice to select nandroid.
Is there something I'm missing here? Is my update.zip corrupted? Or any suggestions on what to do next?
Thanks
did you install Clockwork recovery post-root? That places a new update.zip in your internal SD that is needed for taking and restoring nandroid backups.
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I downloaded the update.zip file again. Gives me the same error message.
I think I think I had ROM Manager installed before I rooted but I hadn't run anything in the software yet. (Can't quite remember, slept since then)
Go to Rom Manager, pick the Vibrant as your phone, top option will be to download and install clockwork recovery. Once this is done you can make a nandroid backup inside clockwork recovery... You can use rom manager to boot into it (NOT the stock recovery)
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That worked. Picked Vibrant as my phone. Then it didn't error out and I could get to the screen where I could choose nandroid. Ran the backup. Rebooted & ran the Mobile AP. It works too. Now maybe lag fix next... Thanks!
^ why bother with the lag fix? Froyo is coming this month... patience.
Mostly because the lag on my phone drives me crazy, I might wait for 2.2 though. Lots of reading before I pull the trigger on the lag fix. Seems like lots of people are on the fence as to if they're happy with it or not and I'm not a fan of unintended consequences.
FWIW, this is my 2nd phone & the first was less laggy than this one, but it drained batteries like no tomorrow. Never got more than 5hrs out of a fully charged battery. This phone has gone 18hrs but usually more like 12.
^ that sounds absurd to me (5 hours)....
when you say "lag"... what exactly are you seeing that makes you say it's laggy? Sounds like a basic question, but if you can, please explain.... Do you mean the app drawer/moving screens, etc.... do you mean opening apps?
I would suggest trying LauncerPro.
It was absurd. I unplugged once at midnight fully charged and went to bed. Didn't wake up in time for work because the phone didn't make it to 6:30 when my alarm was supposed to go off. I exchanged it that day after work.
The "lag" I consider is mostly opening & closing applications. Like when I'm in gmail and I hit the home or back button to go to the home screen. I press & then wait what feels like half a second for the phone to respond. Other examples are in Craigsnotification when I want to mark something as read or want to go back a screen and it just hangs there for a second. The other phone was much faster with this. With this processor I expect applications to open virtually as fast as I can press the icon.
I'll try out LauncherPro, thanks.
Re: lag - I'm not sure, but it seems to me that syncing operations in the background seem to cause slow response times, or lag, if you will.
Might help to look into what applications you have running, ex. Facebook, twitter, etc and try decreasing the sync frequency.
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If you are rooted you may also want to try Autostarts (or a similar app) that will prevent apps from starting during certain tasks (bootup, texts, emails, etc). It may help... I really do not notice the lag people always talk about. I also came from a CM5 G1 to the Vibrant, so perhaps it is relative.
The lag was pretty bad on mine. Black screen for a few seconds as I was switching between apps or opening/closing them. It wasn't like it was the worst thing in the world or anything, but it was definitely enough to notice and gnaw at me daily.
At the time, I thought it was unrelated but the native Email app (which I synched up to my work email) was simply craptastic, to the point of me going back to my work-issued Treo 750 to simply read and reply to emails given how absurdly slow and non-responsive the Email app was.
Anyway, I downloaded RyanZA's One-click Lag .apk from the Market, applied it, and I couldn't be happier with my phone. Now it feels like the phone I expected it to be when I bought it, no more lag, it's super-responsive, and it also fixed my email app issues. The Email app is seriously a night and day difference after applying the lag fix, I really like it now and use it daily.
My wife has an unrooted stock Vibrant (she's not as adventurous I guess) and we both use Launcher Pro. After the Lag Fix I handed my phone to her and told her to mess around with opening up apps, streaming pandora, surfing, etc. She said it was definitely much faster than her phone and more responsive.
Re: possible adverse consequences... well, that's what nandroid backups are for, I guess. Between Clockwork/nandroid backups I've taken, both the rooted and unrooted stock update.zip files provided here at XDA, and the option to flash to stock via ODIN, I felt that those things were enough to mitigate the risk of applying the lag fix to my phone, including the mods I've applied like applying the MobileAP and Captivate camera .zips. YMMV.
This is my first Android phone, coming from Blackberry Curve 8320. I really expected it would be a giant leap in performance considering the Vibrant is 3x faster than the Curve. I about took it back the first day because the Facebook app was so unbelievably slow and lacking features compared to the BB app, I about threw it across the room a few times waiting for things to load.
I was stuck on EDGE with the BB with my d/l speed somewhere around 800kbps compared to I regularly hit 6Mbps with the Vibrant on 3G. Inexplicable to me why it takes as long as it does to function. I'm replacing my cable internet with wireless tethering so the 3G was important to me.
Launcher Pro seems to be a noticeable improvement in speed. I'm going to miss the full screen Updates widget... Have to figure out a replacement.
Most likely I'll pull the trigger on the lag fix, too impatient. If only the GPS worked the majority of the time... Going on a 1500 mile road trip next week and I know I'll be cussing at this thing. Even without GPS on the BB as long as I had internet at least I could always figure out where I was.
Thanks for everyone's responses, very helpful. I'm sure I'll love this thing eventually, hopefully.
OP,
not sure if you tried this but try rebooting into clockwork recovery and doing a nandroid from there. two ways to do that, once you have the clockwork update.zip in sd root:
1. with the clockwork app. option reboot into clockwork recovery
2. turn phone off > turn phone on while holding power and vol +/- > install update zip > you should now be in clockwork recovery
I picked my Nexus S up this am as the store opened at 9am. I powered it on and away it went it had all of my apps dl in minutes.I had to go into work so I just let it charge on my car charger. Got to work and went to start Cardio trainer ( which is an app I use daily for about 3-5 hours per day) it immediately force closed. Force closes each time I try and use it. So i sent message to dev. The next thing I know I get a message saying that Beautiful Widgets geolocation is getting false reading from the GPS and it force closes. The GPS has been spotty. When first initiated it took over 10 minutes to get a lock. Turned it off and tried again and it took 7 minutes. The third time it was about 15 seconds and since then it alternates back and forth from almost instant to minutes again. What concerns me is that the accuracy just bounces back and forth from 32.6 ft to 16.3 ft and anywhere in between and really never stabilizes. This may be normal for this type GPS systems(I don't know) Also I have the old market and cannot find a link for the new market.Wasn't Gingerbread suppose to come with the new market? So far I am impressed with the smoothness of the system but not with the GPS. Also the lInpack scores are lower than on the Vibrant. Appears to be very solid. Anyone else have any of these problems?
tenbeau said:
I picked my Nexus S up this am as the store opened at 9am. I powered it on and away it went it had all of my apps dl in minutes.I had to go into work so I just let it charge on my car charger. Got to work and went to start Cardio trainer ( which is an app I use daily for about 3-5 hours per day) it immediately force closed. Force closes each time I try and use it. So i sent message to dev. The next thing I know I get a message saying that Beautiful Widgets geolocation is getting false reading from the GPS and it force closes. The GPS has been spotty. When first initiated it took over 10 minutes to get a lock. Turned it off and tried again and it took 7 minutes. The third time it was about 15 seconds and since then it alternates back and forth from almost instant to minutes again. What concerns me is that the accuracy just bounces back and forth from 32.6 ft to 16.3 ft and anywhere in between and really never stabilizes. This may be normal for this type GPS systems(I don't know) Also I have the old market and cannot find a link for the new market.Wasn't Gingerbread suppose to come with the new market? So far I am impressed with the smoothness of the system but not with the GPS. Also the lInpack scores are lower than on the Vibrant. Appears to be very solid. Anyone else have any of these problems?
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It sounds like a GPS problem with your device, Just get it swapped mate
JD
I've only had FCs using the new google maps so far.
Random FC for me in maps, market and gallery :-/
ive yet to experience a FC
Cardio trainer is not working for me either, I am wondering if the dev's need to update it for 2.3, I also can't get vlingo to work.
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It sounds like a GPS problem with your device, Just get it swapped mate
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I don't think it's a gps thing, I can't even get into cardio without it FC, my GPS locks without a problem.
phone randomly goes to boot animation screen
Ok, so it appears something is wrong with my phone. Every once in a while, i'll look down on my phone or in the middle of doing something, and it will go to the boot animation screen. Most of the time, the boot animation screen is dimmer than on normal start up. It will eventually go back to the ui, which I will then have to restart my phone because it won't connect to wifi or 3g.
Anyone else had this problem? Think it's worthy of getting a replacement from bestbuy or a glitch that should be fixed with an ota?
I haven't seen anything like this yet, though I suppose I don't keep my eye on my phone constantly, so I suppose it could have happened while I wasn't looking. No WiFi or 3G problems, either.
Sounds like you've got a serious issue there if you're seeing it a lot, though. I would get it replaced. Unless you're running a third-party ROM or some other non-stock mod, in which case dump it first and see if the problem is being caused by that.
Yea I had this happen twice. At gym was changing a track with Bluetooth headphones and went to dimmer bootscreen had to pull battery. And another time I had to reapply all my Widgets on my homescreen. I'm on CM7 rom
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Are you using a custom ROM/kernel/SetCPU? Those problems sound like the ones the D1 has when it's clocked past a stable speed.
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rocketragz said:
Ok, so it appears something is wrong with my phone. Every once in a while, i'll look down on my phone or in the middle of doing something, and it will go to the boot animation screen. Most of the time, the boot animation screen is dimmer than on normal start up. It will eventually go back to the ui, which I will then have to restart my phone because it won't connect to wifi or 3g.
Anyone else had this problem? Think it's worthy of getting a replacement from bestbuy or a glitch that should be fixed with an ota?
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I'd look at the software you've added since the phone was purchased as the first primary suspect. Weird widgets, background services, live wallpapers, background syncing app, something like that...
You'd want to wipe/reset the phone before a return anyways, so why not do a factory wipe/reset from the settings/privacy menu, then start off with a fresh phone (software wise)? Be conservative in what apps you install at first, and check for stability; then slowly add back the stuff you'd have one by one and see which app from the Market causes the glitch.
I think that's a bit more fair to Samsung, Best Buy, and whoever ends up with the device as a refurb, than returning what is probably not bad hardware to the store.
demo23019 said:
Yea I had this happen twice. At gym was changing a track with Bluetooth headphones and went to dimmer bootscreen had to pull battery. And another time I had to reapply all my Widgets on my homescreen. I'm on CM7 rom
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Hmmm...and you don't think the fact that you're using ALPHA level firmware that is known to have some bugs in it, might be your problem?
I'd expect that kind of thing with CM as long as it's alpha, and even beta. I wouldn't be surprised with it even on the RC versions. It's experimental until Team Douche releases an actual ready-for-prime-time version.
Are you using a custom ROM/kernel/SetCPU?
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Nope, I'm not even rooted. I am however running ADW ex launcher. As far as widgets, the only widget i have running is the weather/news that came stock on the phone. As far as apps, I really don't have anything crazy downloaded or running.
rocketragz said:
Nope, I'm not even rooted. I am however running ADW ex launcher. As far as widgets, the only widget i have running is the weather/news that came stock on the phone. As far as apps, I really don't have anything crazy downloaded or running.
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I've been running ADW.Launcher without problems up to now. I just upgraded to ADWLauncher EX last night; I'll post here again if I start seeing this issue.
this is similar to the other topic.
Random Reboots, we call it on the SGS (samsung galaxy s) side
hoping for the best, it is not the same deadly problem we found on some of the 16GB SGS phones, that eventually lead to the corruption / destruction of the internal SD
but those were the signs.
so i'm really hoping that is not the same problem, else i'll really be pissed with Samsung to produce yet another crappy phone with cheap internal parts.
it should not be, as i saw pictures of the innards of the SNS (samsung nexus s) and it was clearly showing SandDisk for the 16GB internal SD
Random Reboots
A couple of times I've had the Nexus S reboot, once when I was in the middle of a call and once again as I was messing around with the settings.
I'm running 2.3.1, th latest build GRH78, does anyone have an idea as to why the random reboots are occurring?
Thanks in advance for your help
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Let's please keep it friendly and on topic here. Thank you
reception bar is stable but on active call it gets disconnected and i have to turn the phone off and on right away thia happens pretty often. I called samsung and they have no solution but to tell to go get it exchanged. This is already a second device.
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Same thing happens to me.. now 4 times its happened to me
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We don't have a thread yet discussing things that we like/don't like about the update to EC05. I am quite certain that Sprint ID will be a hot topic here, but we don't need to limit it to that.
What do you like and what don't you like? What has been fixed and what has not been fixed?
Personally, I am enjoying the Sprint ID because of some additional ringtones and wallpapers. The launcher works much like the stock Android launcher with the exception of the iD button replacing the browser button. I always activate the internet from an icon in a home screen anyways.
I have also noticed that the GPS seems to be very strong and accurate!!
In call volume seems to be louder (to me) as well.
I would probably enjoy Sprint ID if I could get any apps to show up in the app drawer for me. It's empty forcing me to stick with Touchwiz.
It seems to be much more stable. Gps works great. I've had no 3g data issues. No FCs, minus the xda app. I had to remove one bloatware file to get my adfree hosts file updated due to the /system partition having no memory left. The browser still has checkerboarding, but that's a minor thing for me, and the keyboard still does its thing. Otherwise a really good running stock ROM for me.
I did put launcher pro back on though. I've gotten too used to it.
Hardware keyboard sucks even more than it did before, which is impressive.
There's no longer a separate silent and vibrate ringer setting.
Those two are basically a killer. I guess I'll keep DI18 forever. :\
Orientation is slow as molasses. The terminal emulator yamaha_sensorcalibutil hack doesn't help at all. Will play with for a few days and probably go back to DI18 if i can't find a fix for orientation issue.
Sesquipedalian said:
Hardware keyboard sucks even more than it did before, which is impressive.
There's no longer a separate silent and vibrate ringer setting.
Those two are basically a killer. I guess I'll keep DI18 forever. :\
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It is amazing that they could make the keyboard worse isn't it? As for the silent option, that's been gone since the first froyo beta. Not sure why they got rid of it.. it was a nice feature. :-/
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We don't have a thread yet discussing things that we like/don't like about the update to EC05. I am quite certain that Sprint ID will be a hot topic here, but we don't need to limit it to that.
What do you like and what don't you like? What has been fixed and what has not been fixed?
Personally, I am enjoying the Sprint ID because of some additional ringtones and wallpapers. The launcher works much like the stock Android launcher with the exception of the iD button replacing the browser button. I always activate the internet from an icon in a home screen anyways.
I have also noticed that the GPS seems to be very strong and accurate!!
In call volume seems to be louder (to me) as well.
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Ok I have only been using it for about 10 minutes but I immediately tested the few things that I knew existed on EB13 for me.
1. Camera sports mode fixed
2. Video recording in low light fixed
3. Compass being screwed up fixed
4. 3g speeds faster for me
5. overall speed seems faster
6. Physical keyboard isn't missing keys for me DISCLAIMER: I am not a speed typer. I have only used the keyboard a few times since owning the Epic. However on EB13, and before, I could produce the letter skips pretty easily. Especially on double leTTers. I tested by typing 100 words as fast as I could and I did not have a single letter miss. But I did have a few spelling errors
Only two problems that I know of which I don't really care that much about
1. Browser checkerboarding
2. Playing audio from flash content over the web to bluetooth headphones stutters badly. Flash audio out of the speakers work fine. Had this problem on EB13 also.
If I run into anything else I will let you know.
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Orientation is slow as molasses. The terminal emulator yamaha_sensorcalibutil hack doesn't help at all. Will play with for a few days and probably go back to DI18 if i can't find a fix for orientation issue.
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My orientation and compass are flawless. I will keep an eye on it though to make sure I don't find a problem because I have only used it for about 20 minutes now.
So far, everything is running very smoothly and appears to be more responsive than my stock DI18. The only issue I have seen thus far is I disabled my Wi-Fi to look at the SprintID packs (you can only view these when using the data connection) and when I went to re-enable the Wi-Fi, I received an error. This corrected itself after I turned off my data (holding the power button and selecting the new data option) and then back on.
EDIT: Tried the BlueTooth, which worked great;However, when I turned it off and went to watch a YouTube video, the sound was only coming through the phones speaker and not the main speaker. It only started working again after a reboot. I believe I saw this in a thread a while back. Anyone else experiencing this yet?
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Everything but the TWS bug has been fixed. Browser still checkerboards but not as bad.
3G and Gps have been vastly improved as well.
Overall its a very good update. Even Sprint ID is a pleasant surprise.
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Sprint Id is a pleasant surprise to me too. I like the ESPN id with its wallpaper, ringtones and icons.
For those using sprint id, do you notice any performance or battery problems from using it? That is the main reason I am avoiding it. Wanted to wait until more data came in to see what peoples opinions were. If people could throw up some screen shots showing some differences that would be nice.
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Nice Job
the orientation is amazing
seems as snappy as a custom ROM for me
but i did remove all sprints crap.
Any-who im waiting on a RC cm7 to be my daily ROM
until the nexus s 4g is released then i may jump on-that since its pure Google.
or its ported to the epic.
but overall Sammy did pretty good this time around.
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Orientation is slow as molasses. The terminal emulator yamaha_sensorcalibutil hack doesn't help at all. Will play with for a few days and probably go back to DI18 if i can't find a fix for orientation issue.
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Try the upside down calibration. I did it and rebootd and.my phones orientation is very fast. Hold the phone upside down against a counter and go into settings and hit calibrate
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It is amazing that they could make the keyboard worse isn't it? As for the silent option, that's been gone since the first froyo beta. Not sure why they got rid of it.. it was a nice feature. :-/
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Actually, its still there. You just have to change it in the settings every time you want to change from vibrate to silent.
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Seems generally good. No lag, most of the bugs fixed, only the TWS bug remains (which seems to be in the AOSP Android code, not created by Samsung). It's too early to tell but it seems that battery life may be average at best. I've been on Stock EB13 with Genocide 0.4a kernel (which is an OC/UV kernel) and I got used to 24+ hours battery life, I don't think I'll see that with full stock EC05.
The battery life has gotten significantly worst with EC05. The drain when the screen is off is significantly more. There is a lot of lag, even with calibrating upside down, with the screen orientation. I have the same set up as I did with stock EB and the camera fix and the battery life was a lot better. I may go back to that.
The good for me:
1- 3g speeds the best yet, had 1.3Mb down and 700k up while driving.
2- Everything seems much smoother and faster. I wiped my stock sd card before flashing ec05 and my sd tools results are better.
3- GPS and orientation speeds are flawless. (removed Sprint bloat)
4- Modem in general seems fixed. My wifi doesn't drop out every 10 minutes like it did on eb13, and I can stream radio on tunein radio again without it buffering every minute or so.
5- Sprint ID. It's more options and stuff for us to choose from. Some may hate that, but at least it's actually useful bloat from Sprint that I didn't remove.
Still haven't found an issue after several hours of use.
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The battery life has gotten significantly worst with EC05. The drain when the screen is off is significantly more. There is a lot of lag, even with calibrating upside down, with the screen orientation. I have the same set up as I did with stock EB and the camera fix and the battery life was a lot better. I may go back to that.
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I would give it a little time to judge the battery life on the update. I am pretty sure your usage has changed a bit due to the update brining something new and all the re-setup you probably had to do. In regards to lag - I have zero issues with that, it seems nice and fast to me - install spare parts from market and put animations to fast to get it even smoother. My GPS locked instantly inside my house which never happened before on any ROM (stock or custom). Screen rotation speed can be fixed by doing the yamaha calibration trick (need to root for that though) - I had to do this with every ROM including EB13 Samsung flash. I understand that to each his own, but I am definitely liking this update. They did a good job and now that I resolved my exchange server issue, I am really liking it. Good job Sprint/Sammy!
I still have the BT issue as the EB13,I have a Jabra A2DP headset,it doesn't see my headset after i turn it on,I had to turn off & on bt on the phone again for it to see my bt headset,I had this exact problem on EB13 but not DI18,sometimes no matter what i did,it just not seeing my bt headset anymore,had to delete and re-pair it again,very frustrating,beside this,i have no issues w/EC05.
I really wonder why there is none of such thread here!
Gingerbread unfortunately brought only bad things to my Nexus. I already forgot why I was so crazy about installing it.
What feature did it introduce again?
Okay the response is much better and everything seems faster...but with lots of bugs?
That screen off animation? Seriously?
Things that I hate now:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
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1. Battery Time
2. Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
3. notification led: you know...
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4. Blank keyboard- fixed by switching to another keyboard and back again, or a reset
5. Blank Launcher- fixed with reset
6. In the stock SMS app a long press>delete conversation doesn't always delete the selected conversation; sometimes you have to do it twice.
As far as battery goes, my display is still the thing that takes up the most battery (which is normal) but I had been experiencing severe declines in battery life. Does the switch to 32-bit color require more processing power and therefore battery?
I *#*#4636#*#*>phone information and saw it was set to WCDMA preferred. I remember playing with the option when froyo came out but didn't remember what it was set to (Maybe Gingerbread reset the option...?). I changed it to GSM PRL (Auto), and have experienced increases in battery life, as my phone isn't hunting for 3G all the time- it uses a service provided list of tower locations.
The LED REALLY bugs me.
Hate about Gingerbread
No trackball wake
Juice Defender Doesn't work (but Green Power does - works well but with less flexibility than JD)
Short battery life
Useless keyboard selection gimmicks
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
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Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???
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To be fair, the OP did mention about switching to Apple.
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GldRush98 said:
Well, glad to know mine isn't the only one that does this!!
On Froyo I would wake up in the morning to freshly updated apps that had updated automatically over night.
I have not had this happen a single time on Gingerbread, and nearly every time I go in to the market there are updates waiting.
What is the point of the automatic update feature when it doesn't work???
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auto update never worked for me, even in froyo.
-Battery with CM7 roms
-Trackball wake blocked in non-CM7 roms
-More difficult to mod themes like statusbar (before we just had to change a png and now we have to edit a bunch of files)
So in summary GB roms are still not stable and complete, they have either TB wake missing or poor battery life too
My annoying issues?
- 2 second mic mute after I answer a call
- stock launcher choking after a while
Less annoying ones:
- Market does not automatically update apps
- gps activations without an apparent reason
My annoyances
In no particular order:
The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
Launcher unresponsive/vanishing
Lockscreen pattern not showing (as in the OP)
Phone randomly stays awake at night
GPS turns itself off
Not able to view an apps wakelock any more
USB mount screen shows 'turn off' even when it isn't mounted (UK issue)
USB debugging icon doesn't appear, or doesn't turn off depending on how you enabled it
Exchange push is just crap now, I swear it's getting worse by the day
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- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day with lot of usage, b
efore I could listen to mp3's one day, ie. more than 4 hours without any problems...now
- Camera: either Cam or Video, the application crashes after I take a photo or video and then I can not connect to it anymore
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- unlock screen: I use a pattern, often there is no overlay of what pattern I drag, still the screen can be unlocked
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- 3G and Wifi: if you are connected to wifi more than 15 minutes and then disconnect from it you do not get any 3G, you have to go to airplane mode and back, this bug appeared ages ago and was fixed, now back again...tells you a lot about their merging control, ie. sucks
- notification led: you know...
- apps: there are a lot of apps running even though I never used them since restart (see it in a task killer app)
- gps: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- phone reboot: it even rebooted without any notice two times since I installed it
(- Contacts: I still can't enter a simple thing like a birthday on an expensive phone like this)
I think there is more if I think about it.
Seriously thinking about switching back.
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While I'm not a big Gingerbread lover at all, here are answers to some of the points:
Battery time is fine, at least in freshly installed ROMs it far exceeds what Froyo mastered.
Camera is your own problem - you didn't update radio, or your update went bad.
Gallery never crashed - again, your own problem (you get the feeling now, right?).
3G and WiFi - again, your own problem. No bug.
Apps - and why do you care? Isn't the "DO NOT USE TASK KILLER" thread clear enough? 150-200MB free RAM aren't self-explanatory?
Due to your comments, you might really consider switching to Apple. It would be beneficial both for you and for this forum.
Or you could back up user data, wipe, install new radio and bootloader, load fresh Gingerbread ROM (NOT CM7 or CM7-based), and have most of your points addressed.
Now, having said that, if you want a much better overall feel - install Froyo-based Desire port, or if you don't have any use for Hotspot - DesireHD port. I hate using barebone Android after some experience with it.
have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....
Maybe you haven't heard that your experience not necessarily represents anything.
For me (and another 2 guys that asked me to reinstall other ROM on their Nexus Ones), CM7 was a huge, awful pile of bugs. Starting with the ill-famous "wonk".
Plus, again, after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.
I have an occasional problem with the application tray where it stutters, flashes and doesn't scroll properly. It seems to happen only after exiting certain apps, and needs the launcher to be force closed to fix.
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have you guys heard about Cyanogenmod ROM? I am using CM7 RC4 and I have no problems that anyone mentioned in this thread....
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Exactly my experience too. Absolutely brilliant ROM.
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..after having some SenseUI I don't really want to go back to plain Android, and wouldn't suggest it to anyone looking for a good overall experience.
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Just lost all credibility in my book...
I would suggest the OP decides what features he/she wants in a ROM and then try a few different ones out. There are plenty to cater to all tastes and i'm sure they'll be able to find one that works well for them.
1. exchange sync stops syncing without any reason. can't start a manual sync. only reboot of the phone helps for a short period of time. needs a fix very urgently.
2. TINY TINY notification icons...the worst idea google had for the GB update. i cannot see the difference between the gmail and exchange mail icon on normal usage in example.
There are some more points which i also mentioned in my blog about gingerbread for nexus one:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2011/03/review-android-2-3-3-gingerbread-for-nexus-one/
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One bug and one annoying change:
- The instability of the launchers. I hope they address this.
- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?
my mms sometimes does not send if i configure 2 APNs (one for mobile data and one for mms), while i disable the one for mobile data...
it's working fine on Froyo and CM6 before
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- The inaccessible GPS toggle. Tasker can't access it and neither can the toggle widgets. Why did they change this?
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QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to the target brightness which is quite abrupt visually.
And of course... trackball wake is gone.
I concur with these points:
- Battery Time: this is bad, can't even run half a day
- Gallery: often crashes, especially if you have an online photo account connected
- Market: even if automatic updates activated, it only updates if you open the market and go to the "my apps" tab
- GPS: on a random bases it tries to lock even though no app that uses gps is running
- Creating shortcuts on desktop: sometimes you can't drag/drop icons to the desktop or to a different spot on the desktop.
- The cursor select triangle not lining up with the cursor
- Auto brightness adjustment no longer fades, now it just jump straight to full bright or full dim.
As for the people suggesting we update the radio and try different roms, while that is primarily what this board is about, it doesn't "solve" anything. This is a stock Nexus One with official everything. If it doesn't work then it doesn't work.