RM Radio Chip in Nexus S... - Nexus S General

Appears from the ifix it teardown that the WiFi chip has FM capability.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-S-Teardown/4365/2
Now just a long winding road to see if it can work...

AFAIK, the Nexus One had it too, took a while for the devs here to get it to work
Makes you kinda wonder why they didn't just write a driver for it in the first place... could be a nice feature to advertise

Broadcom BCM4329GKUBG, Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM (Tx and Rx),
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I've actually read a few times that the chip actually can transmit FM which is something that would be a huge feature to me.

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has any heared about the Broadcom chip which exists in the google nexus one which has wifi n and fm transimetter does this chip exists in our hd 2 so that it could be the reason that our hd2 supports wifi n or not see the link
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/google-nexus-one-reveals-wifi-80211n-fm-transmitter-and-receiver
hoss_n2 said:
has any heared about the Broadcom chip which exists in the google nexus one which has wifi n and fm transimetter does this chip exists in our hd 2 so that it could be the reason that our hd2 supports wifi n or not see the link
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/google-nexus-one-reveals-wifi-80211n-fm-transmitter-and-receiver
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no one knows
Interesting question... I think the HD2 has been taken apart before and there was no mention of this... FM transmitter would be AWESOME!
If the HD2 also uses the BCM4329EKUBG then this could possibly be enabled, although it would also require a suitable antenna to be connected for FM transmission.
Is there a list of hardware components available anywhere?
I think if the availability of such a chip would be true, then flywhc had almost known of this and maybe a way would've been found using the FM transmitter in order to receive TMC signal then.
The HTC HD2 has been almost disassembled. You can see the result right here as well as here
Btw: I'd like to see high quality closeup's of the mainboard in this device. Are there any better closeup high quality pictures around?

HD2 FM transmitter?

Is there anything to make this possible on this beautiful device? I am in fear from buying it because of battery so i wonder will you guys one day could make that better with your roms? My first choice was omnia 2 ,although it has nice battery life it cant really compare with this beast. Too bad they didnt put tv - out. That could be great with all emulators out there. Please help me guys in buying.
p.s. sry for bad english
mmm unsure whether it has the hardware to do it though...
the_bulk said:
Is there anything to make this possible on this beautiful device? I am in fear from buying it because of battery so i wonder will you guys one day could make that better with your roms? My first choice was omnia 2 ,although it has nice battery life it cant really compare with this beast. Too bad they didnt put tv - out. That could be great with all emulators out there. Please help me guys in buying.
p.s. sry for bad english
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Have a look here what i said about Fm Transmitter thats if you intend to buy one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611504
the_bulk said:
Is there anything to make this possible on this beautiful device?
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I bought this and it does the job well by BlueTooth. Also acts as a speaker phone.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/727/1/
too bad htc didnt put that feature in phone :S what about tv-out and battery? thank you for your answers
Batter transmiter and TV-Out FM?
If you have new questions, you should start a new thread! Especially when no tags are applied to your thread (thus making searching awful :-<)
What do you mean by better transmitter?
In this device is FM transmiter
It can be transferred on HD2 ?
navitel.su/devices/navitel-nx5300/
Nope, no FM transmitter, there was a debate about it b4 but no luck with it
In my opinion our HD2 is the best until now, it would've been the most perfect unbeatable device if it had....
- 2ry camera (front) with video calling
- TV-out
- FM transmitter
- TV-out option
- more mAh battery
i would never ever thought of changing the phone as long as it's alive and kicking!!
sevoflurane said:
Nope, no FM transmitter, there was a debate about it b4 but no luck with it
In my opinion our HD2 is the best until now, it would've been the most perfect unbeatable device if it had....
- 2ry camera (front) with video calling
- TV-out
- FM transmitter
- TV-out option
- more mAh battery
i would never ever thought of changing the phone as long as it's alive and kicking!!
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You forgot DVB-T tuner and second SIM option ...
sevoflurane said:
Nope, no FM transmitter, there was a debate about it b4 but no luck with it
In my opinion our HD2 is the best until now, it would've been the most perfect unbeatable device if it had....
- 2ry camera (front) with video calling
- TV-out
- FM transmitter
- TV-out option
- more mAh battery
i would never ever thought of changing the phone as long as it's alive and kicking!!
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All greetings I too so thought earlier but on our sites in Russia too walks информациция apropos fm the transmitter so I think soon it will appear.
Excuse for bad transfer I use the translator
actually the BCM4329 does have FM tx. It's more a matter of no software being available to take advantage of the hardware the device has. Than again, they got the rx working under android (and I think I heard somewhere that the n wireless band was working on some builds, so ya never know. It would be a sweat feature.
any news?It s really nice to unlock features that are there but was disabled by manufactures... 720p recording,fm tx,wifi n,and i ve readed something about the camera from 5mpx to something like 8mpx ( at least limited in quality to 5mpx)

Hidden features in nexus one?

I got my nexus one exactly 1 week ago, and this device is amazing! I unlocked it and installed the cyanogen mod the day after i got it, and Iam really impressed of the results all you developers out there making theese custom roms happen.
I'have read on the internet that nexus one hardware has a fm recciver and transmitter + N wireless capable chip.
And its not even mentioned in the phone's spec list(i've hard it was at lauch, but was removed short time after), is this because there is currently no software support that they wont advertise the features?
Or is this just hardware which is on the phones chip because its just how they make them, and the features arent nesseseary availble to the phone.
Any ideas? or status on this?
Sorry my english is not very good + Iam a newbie =)
Al3k said:
I'have read on the internet that nexus one hardware has a fm recciver and transmitter + N wireless capable chip.
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802.11n works with the stock ROM, but it's only at 2.4 GHz (the phone doesn't appear to include the necessary antenna and RF components to work with the 5 GHz band). It's also only single-stream N, so you won't get link speeds higher than 65 Mbit. Maybe they didn't advertise it because it's only marginally faster than 802.11g, and generally the phone can't even saturate a G connection. In theory, you may get slightly better range with N and perhaps slightly worse battery life. I don't really know why they removed it from the specs shortly after launch.
Al3k said:
Or is this just hardware which is on the phones chip because its just how they make them, and the features arent nesseseary availble to the phone.
Any ideas? or status on this?
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Probably both. Some minimal extra hardware or connections may or may not be necessary to fully use the FM radio functions. But a Google employee (Swetland) stated that the main reason it wasn't included was because they didn't have time to do the software integration, and it wasn't a priority.
Thanx I would love to have a inbuild fm transmitter, that is just sick, I dont think any other cell phone have this working. We just need be patient and hope for best I guess
Al3k said:
Thanx I would love to have a inbuild fm transmitter, that is just sick, I dont think any other cell phone have this working. We just need be patient and hope for best I guess
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there are many many cell phones that have FM receiver and transmitter. the nokia n97 has both an FM radio, and also you can turn on the FM transmitter to play your music thru your car's stereo by tuning into a frequency, and your phone will broadcast to that frequency. actually the nexus one is missing this function when a lot of other phones have it! mainly high end nokia phones.
Don't count on the Nexus ever getting FM transmission capability. It does not have the FTC's stamp of approval for such a feature. FM receiving may be possible some day, but that's up to Google to write the necessary drivers and programs for it.
Or if it is possible maybe Macodo can port it from the desire rom like he did the camera. I'm just saying maybe..
-Charlie
The FTC denying the FM Trans was a joke..... The feds are so paranoid with cell phones and cars I find it hard to believe they will be approving many more FM Trans in cell phones..... Receiver....well, I search this forum everyday waiting to see the post with the "Flashable .zip to enable FM Radio!"
/me is willing to say we'll have FM Radio *SOON*
FM radio is great, i guess it use less battery power than internet radio over 3g.
I do have a FM transmitter in my car but the quality is kind of ****ty, the car i use at work dosent have any input or aux plug to the stereo.
Since we're on it, what do you guys think the future will bring the nexus one? or wish list?
Al3k said:
FM radio is great, i guess it use less battery power than internet radio over 3g.
I do have a FM transmitter in my car but the quality is kind of ****ty, the car i use at work dosent have any input or aux plug to the stereo.
Since we're on it, what do you guys think the future will bring the nexus one? or wish list?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668003
GldRush98 said:
Don't count on the Nexus ever getting FM transmission capability. It does not have the FTC's stamp of approval for such a feature. FM receiving may be possible some day, but that's up to Google to write the necessary drivers and programs for it.
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It may never come "officialy" for the nexus, but if they're working the aosp code future phones, then it's just a matter of devs flipping a switch instead of having to write code from the bottom up.
Nah, you don't, they say that to get the best reception, but you can do with out. Look up N900's fm capabilities to transmit/receive, you can do it without a plugged in antenna/headphones.
Just as aside for people wanting FM transmission with the Nexus One - a FM transmitter with a 3.5mm jack only costs around $5 (Australian Dollars) from ebay, and you can pick them up in stores for about the same price. Obviously not as convenient as having it built in and not having to take an extra accessory around - but I would assume you wouldn't want to use it in too many places anyway. Say the car, maybe a stereo at home and thats mainly it?
i don't need a transmitter as much as a receiver.

Does the FM radio "chip" exist on the 7.7?

Hello,
The only thing I really miss from from my SGS2 is the FM radio. I use TuneIn now but it chews the battery. So, I was wondering.. If the internals of the 7.7 and Note are apparently very similar, does the FM chip and requisite hardware exist in the 7.7?? Would it ever be possible "activate" this?
I remember reading somewhere then the GN does have the FM chip but lacks other essential internals.
BatfinkUK1 said:
Hello,
The only thing I really miss from from my SGS2 is the FM radio. I use TuneIn now but it chews the battery. So, I was wondering.. If the internals of the 7.7 and Note are apparently very similar, does the FM chip and requisite hardware exist in the 7.7?? Would it ever be possible "activate" this?
I remember reading somewhere then the GN does have the FM chip but lacks other essential internals.
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Now we have a more active dev community has anyone any ideas?

[Q] The Galaxy S4 will not have the fm radio: You will buy it anyway?

I personally do not buy it ever
1) The streaming radio consumes data
2) The streaming radio will consume battery power
3) The streaming radio in areas where coverage is not listening
4) The streaming radio for example. by train you can not listen well
5) In dangerous situations, natural disasters or in areas without telephone coverage, the FM radio can save many lives
Then it's your choice based on what's most interesting ... but I eg. as owner of iphone, I feel very lack of FM tuner .... I had on the Notes.
But then, I say, also by virtue of the fact that competition (One Htc, Sony Xperia Z, Galaxy Oprimus G, Lumia 920) has it as a function, I do not understand how anyone can not enter it.
Oh no, no fm radio ?? Ok I'm done it can go to hell never ever I will by it
I mean that's a no go, without that I can't do anything, THAT IS THE MAIN REASON I BUY MY PHONE FOR
u_u' pointless thread
touness69 said:
Oh no, no fm radio ?? Ok I'm done it can go to hell never ever I will by it
I mean that's a no go, without that I can't do anything, THAT IS THE MAIN REASON I BUY MY PHONE FOR
u_u' pointless thread
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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not...
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Anyway, someone posted the Spirit app in another thread to remedy this situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
mang0 said:
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not...
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Anyway, someone posted the Spirit app in another thread to remedy this situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
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Obviously it is. He is saying it's a phone, fm radio is not a compulsory feature anyway.
Regards,
Captain Obvious
ivanchin99 said:
Obviously it is. He is saying it's a phone, fm radio is not a compulsory feature anyway.
Regards,
Captain Obvious
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Lots of people use their phones to listen to music more than they use them to make calls. Even if they don't necessarily listen via FM radio, it's not strange that someone would use their smartphone to do something other than make phone calls...
I've never listened to radio on my phone so the lack of it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
mang0 said:
Anyway, someone posted the Spirit app in another thread to remedy this situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
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The S3 i9300 has fm, the S3 i9305 (4g model) doesn't have fm.
If the fm chip is not active, no app will make it work.
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My FM Radio has no phone........
Baldilocks said:
My FM Radio has no phone........
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Seriously man, who buys an FM Radio with no phone function?
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Baldilocks said:
My FM Radio has no phone........
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That reply just made my day...
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what's fm radio?
scott2121210 said:
That reply just made my day...
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I try. Sometimes you have to lighten things up.
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sxi200 said:
Seriously man, who buys an FM Radio with no phone function?
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I know, right!. That just makes it useless..
Fm radio, really? Is it still that useful, not at all. I would buy S4 and will spend $10 to buy an old cassette player which has built in FM.
Odd that they have excluded it, usually am a user of the radio on post models so it is slight irksome they haven't included it this time.
Is it %100 confirmed the Octa will not have it? American variants have always been missing the FM radio to cut cost.
People still use the fm radio? I don't like to listen to the same 5 songs with a billion ads on repeat. So no radio is great for me.
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Figarino said:
I personally do not buy it ever
1) The streaming radio consumes data
2) The streaming radio will consume battery power
3) The streaming radio in areas where coverage is not listening
4) The streaming radio for example. by train you can not listen well
5) In dangerous situations, natural disasters or in areas without telephone coverage, the FM radio can save many lives
Then it's your choice based on what's most interesting ... but I eg. as owner of iphone, I feel very lack of FM tuner .... I had on the Notes.
But then, I say, also by virtue of the fact that competition (One Htc, Sony Xperia Z, Galaxy Oprimus G, Lumia 920) has it as a function, I do not understand how anyone can not enter it.
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Why did you start this thread in the first place if you dont care about an FM radio?
And to answer the question, fm radio never crosses my mind when i wanna buy a phone but i voted no just cause this is irrelevant
Same here I voted no just cause that is the dumbest thread I've read in a long time
Tune-in Pro. Sorted
Figarino said:
I personally do not buy it ever
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That's what people said when plastic bumpers were first introduced on cars to replace metal and mini-spare tires replaced full-size ones. You can't fight progress. This is one of those things that can't have a right or wrong answer. It surprises me how many people still value FM radio functionality. It hasn't been on carrier phones in the U.S. for years and I don't even think anyone's noticed or missed it.
1) The streaming radio consumes data
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Not that much really.
First up is Spotify. The mobile app offers Normal, High and Extreme quality settings, which equate to Ogg Vorbis streams at approximately 96Kbits/sec, 160Kbits/sec and 320Kbits/sec – so you can already estimate the bare minimum amount of data they’ll use over time. We measured ten minutes of Spotify streaming at each quality setting, then repeated the tests and averaged the results to make up for any variation in tracks. The difference between Wi-Fi and 3G consumption was negligible, and we couldn’t discern any audible difference between the two through our Sennheiser headphones.
Those ten minutes of Soft Cell and Rick Astley classics consumed an average of 8.9MB at Normal quality, 21.3MB at High quality and 34.7MB at Extreme quality. Taking the lowest and highest of the figures we recorded, an hour of Spotify radio streaming would use anything from 53MB to just over 212MB depending on connection and playback quality. That’s worth bearing in mind the next time you set off for work relying on a Toto album to prepare you for the day ahead.​http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/379402/mobile-data-how-much-do-you-need
2) The streaming radio will consume battery power
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Not that much really.
3) The streaming radio in areas where coverage is not listening
4) The streaming radio for example. by train you can not listen well
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With 80GB of storage available (16+64) you can either carry your own music around or download albums and playlists from subscription services. It's not like you're going to go music-less without an FM radio signal.
5) In dangerous situations, natural disasters or in areas without telephone coverage, the FM radio can save many lives
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If you're stuck in the middle of one and only have your phone, that's true. At least until its battery dies because if cell and phone service is down power most likely will be too. You better have a wired headset with you too becaue it's needed for the FM radio as an antenna for it to function. And I guess you're assuming whoever's relying on their phone has no other devices available to them (TV, a real radio, Internet). If you're just wanting to find out about a natural disaster somewhere else my bet is people would be using their phone's browser or news apps, not their FM radio.
Then it's your choice based on what's most interesting ... but I eg. as owner of iphone, I feel very lack of FM tuner .
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But in spite of risking your life in a natural disaster you bought it anyway.

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