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My phones lately been acting funny
programs have been fore closing and its been laggy and idk why i did put any new apps..
dont know what iv did different i never did anything i have dxtop but it never did anything before
my phones moded and rooted and all the other stuff JF released
If you have a lot of apps or if you're running low on internal phone memory, it would cause your phone to lag. There is also a couple more reasons, I just can't think of em at the moment. =/
You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
borodin1 said:
You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
tanner2007 said:
And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
Oh yeah, Imeem will run in the background indefenately as well.
borodin1 said:
Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
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Well got rid of phone book and my backup since i can always back up my full system
and I already have advance task manager and i can close all the applicatiosn running but not proccess or services with that said I always have close everything app and run that once in a while
I noticed that with dxtop(trial) that every time I went to the home screen, either by hitting home button or backing out of an app, there was a lot of lag. And this is before the little countdown timer the trial has in it.
Uninstalled and am in the process of trying out the other two home replacement apps. Dont have that problem with them. If you are still having issues might try unistalling dxtop.
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
borodin1 said:
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
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I have not heard this..where and how?
kay11224 said:
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
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Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
tanner2007 said:
I have not heard this..where and how?
Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
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1) Anyone?
2) would anyone happen to know which home alternative uses more memory?
dxTop
http://dxtop.wikidot.com/
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Open Home Lite
http://betterandroid.wordpress.com/
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Hi!
My Hero gets very laggy sometimes when I open up too much apps. Unfortunately there is no way (that I know of) to actually close an app, they just 'hibernate' in the background. I tried using TasKiller but it seems to have issues with the hero (when I try to kill apps it brings a random app forward and doesnt close it).
They best solution is just to reboot the phone. When it boots back up it works like a charm.
I thought it would be useful to have a tool that reboots the phone automatically every day at a given time (lets say 4AM) but I couldnt find any. Do You have any other solution for that problem?
I've been using Taskiller (unpaid) since I got my Hero and it's working fine.
Clicking on a task kills it, long clicking brings up the ignore/kill menu. The unpaid version allows for 2 ignores.
When I put a 'shortcut' to task killer on one of the screens it did bring up my contact list after pressing it.
But if I select task killer from the full list of installed apps it works fine, shows me a long list of whats running, you can kill them individual or hit the button at the top to kill them all.
I've been facing the same lagginess on my device, but it seems to go away after awhile. No idea why. Perhaps the system is configured to clean up every now and then?
Taskkiller seems to shut down the SenseUI, so I've stopped using it in the meantime.
What really annoys me, however, is how sometimes the SenseUI seems to crash, and all you see on the screen is the notification bar area, and the HTC logo, as though the phone was switching scenes or rebooting.
ghoonk said:
I've been facing the same lagginess on my device, but it seems to go away after awhile. No idea why. Perhaps the system is configured to clean up every now and then?
Taskkiller seems to shut down the SenseUI, so I've stopped using it in the meantime.
What really annoys me, however, is how sometimes the SenseUI seems to crash, and all you see on the screen is the notification bar area, and the HTC logo, as though the phone was switching scenes or rebooting.
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Taskiller works best if you choose individually which apps to close. You need to leave Touch Input and TouchFlo alone if you still want things to work properly!
Generally it's pretty obvious which apps you want to close e.g. Browser, GMail, Games, GMaps, etc.
Oh and I believe Android will auto-close apps when it decides the system is running low on resources (presumably RAM). That may explain why things suddenly speed up.
Going through app by app isn't something I'd like to spend my day doing. TK has been useful for me on my HTC Magic and Dream (yeah, I'm a bit of an Android man), but on Hero, I haven't really found it as useful
there a program "advanced taskkiller" at the android marketplace. you can kill all tasks at once and then get back to the sense ui by pressing the home button.. found it a good solution for me to free up some memory pretty fast
rivak said:
there a program "advanced taskkiller" at the android marketplace. you can kill all tasks at once and then get back to the sense ui by pressing the home button.. found it a good solution for me to free up some memory pretty fast
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Is the app for free? I can't find it.
Unfortunately we cannot see paid apps in Poland.
Yes, it is a paid app. I had the same problem as well, but thank goodness my G1 came with an AT&T prepaid SIM card. Although the SIM card doesn't work, it is enough to identify me as a US customer when I access Market over WiFi, thus giving me access to paid apps.
It might be worthwhile for you to check if you can get your hands on a depleted AT&T SIM card on eBay or something
Has anyone tried
"Advance Task Manager" i had it on both my G1 and HTC Magic with the Hero Rom installed and it worked just fine for me.
yes, i am using it myself and it works fine.
is a free app, or at least the version i have is.
it remembers which apps you selected to shut down, so each time you go in, they are ticked already and you just have to hit the kill button.
the first time you use it, untick the ones you want to leave running and then it's good to go.
stingerpl said:
Is the app for free? I can't find it.
Unfortunately we cannot see paid apps in Poland.
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the app is for free. it`s called "advanced task killer" on android marketplace
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-rechild-advancedtaskkiller-jCEw.aspx
rhedgehog said:
yes, i am using it myself and it works fine.
is a free app, or at least the version i have is.
it remembers which apps you selected to shut down, so each time you go in, they are ticked already and you just have to hit the kill button.
the first time you use it, untick the ones you want to leave running and then it's good to go.
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Using which one?
Advanced Task Manager is really great with the exceptions and widgets it is they best task killer out there IMO.
I got rid of the HTC TouchFLO/SenseUI and killed all of the HTC processes on my Hero. I also uninstalled Locale (very sad to do that because its very useful).
I run this configuration for two days now and I have no lag at all!
All you really loose are the HTC widgets which I didnt utilize anyways.
I just got an 8GB microsdhc Class 6 card and installed advanced task killer to get rid of the apps that were running in the background and now Henry (that's what I lovingly called my Hero) runs really quickly and with no lag at all.
Love it!
How do you identify the class of the SD card? I've got one but haven't a clue what it is?
Mansn said:
I just got an 8GB microsdhc Class 6 card and installed advanced task killer to get rid of the apps that were running in the background and now Henry (that's what I lovingly called my Hero) runs really quickly and with no lag at all.
Love it!
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I also have a class 6 sd card.
How in the world could it help the lag (assuming you didnt root the phone and make a swapfile on the sd card)? Pls explain
johnboywilson said:
Using which one?
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Advanced task killer.
mwatson said:
How do you identify the class of the SD card? I've got one but haven't a clue what it is?
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If there is a little "6" on the card then you know that it's a class 6. Like this:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/class 6 micro sdhc/ddddadi/microSDHC4GB_a.jpg
If there is no number on the card it is most probably a "Class 2" card. Class 6 cards are more expensive, but have higher data transfer rates.
stingerpl said:
I also have a class 6 sd card.
How in the world could it help the lag (assuming you didnt root the phone and make a swapfile on the sd card)? Pls explain
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Well, seeing that a lot of the files that you access while using applications are stored on the card (photos, music etc) it does make sense. And perhaps the Hero uses the card as a swap space to store things on? I really don't know how or why it might be faster, but I have definitely noticed the difference. The phone hardly lags any more. When it does, it's literally just for half a second.
Before I often had the issue that while I was typing the phone just wouldn't keep up any more. I haven't experienced that since I have installed the new card.
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If there is no number on the card it is most probably a "Class 2" card. Class 6 cards are more expensive, but have higher data transfer rates.
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It should be said that class 6 cards have higher *minimum* data transfer rates for writing. These are:
Class 2 - 2MB/s
Class 4 - 4MB/s
Class 6 - 6MB/s
Many cards exceed these speeds both reading and writing, and often by very large margins. For example, class 2 cards writing at 12MB/s etc (example http://www.davidgilson.co.uk/2008/12/follow-up-another-micro-sdhc-card/ )
It is also possible to buy class 2 cards that are actually faster than class 6 cards from other manufacturers.
The point is that when you buy a card, look for independent reviews that have actually measured the read/write speeds of the cards, and buy accordingly. Just looking at the class in isolation, only guarantees you a minimum level of performance.
Regards,
Dave
I have one question again. Supposed i have a low phone memory due to so much application installed, will it affect my phone performance, coz i noticed that my phone lags with almost full apps installed in it, I wonder if low phone memory that affects the performance of my phone or bcoz of the running apps simultaneously. One thing after i uninstalled the apps from memory card it still has the folder left in it, is it safe if i remove it manually? Is that the cache? Where is the program files in the memory card where the application is so i can delete the uninstalled apps?
Thanks in advance. Lab2 guys.x0x0
having multiple apps running on your phone will slow it down because each app uses tge phones processor and RAM (random access memory) to function and at different times or circumstances they use different levels of both, leaving multiple apps running leaves tge phone without much memory to get through basic functions such as texting or playing music with ease, there is a simple, easy and free way to solve your first problem, go into your android market and look up "advanced task killer" download the free version and it will show you what is running and how much of your RAM is available and you can stop all the apps from running by just clicking "kill selected apps" and your phone will run alot smoother
as for your second issue, theres nothing to worry about, those folders just contain information the apps that you have previously installed, have downloaded, you can delete them without risk of any damage
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so even tho my phone memory is full that doesnt affect the performance of my phone right. i only have 43mb left in my phone memory and its a big laggy to respond. Thanks much. x0x0
or instead using of Advance Task Killer, use Fast reboot to improve battery life. You'll be more enlighten if you visit this site [FIX] Drain Battery Fix for CyanogenMod.
You should worry about how much specific app uses your cpu not ram, less free ram = faster phone.
So try to determinate wich apps are using your cpu and kill tham.
Ignore this post if youre using eclair
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Thank you guys for the sweet response. BTW it works i think the prob is my spb3d launcher that makes my phone lags.
Install System application and kill processes from there.
Hi friends,
trick for increment ram free exsist? sorry my bad english
Thanks
Get yourself a task manager and kill all unnecessary processes, but I don't really know what would you use that free RAM for
Graveir said:
Get yourself a task manager and kill all unnecessary processes, but I don't really know what would you use that free RAM for
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ok friend,
for you the best task manager?
double thanks
Use task killer its free in the market, as for me im using System panel.
allgsmnetwork said:
ok friend,
for you the best task manager?
double thanks
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advanced task manager is the best ,but check this article out
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/16/android-psa-stop-using-task-killer-apps-now/
Android system (2.2 and 2.3--> 2.1 is not too efficent in this) frees the memory itself, and caches things like Windows 7 (but in a far effective way). If you start a software that needs more RAM, then Android frees it for the app (or it tries to free it up: sometimes you have to run more than once a memory hog app to get it started), else it's precaches system things to fasten up the phone. So. If you have a lot of memory free, it's not always good.
Note that the problem starts if the CPU "can't rest". Then will come the less battery time, slowness, choppiness, etc. So: If there is an Application that has been loaded into memory, and runs in background and eating CPU cycles, then it's not good. In this case you have to close it manually. But not for the more RAM. You have to close it because Android itself MAYBE won't close it, because it recognizes as a running task (so it isn't an idle task) that is in use, and it keeps eating the CPU-->battery.
Hope this helps for the memory-geeks
hi all
why my device using to much memory check the pic plz ..
am on stock Rom 4.4.2 but rooted
http://www.gulfup.com/?wLwT4r
3mmar3d said:
hi all
why my device using to much memory check the pic plz ..
am on stock Rom 4.4.2 but rooted
http://www.gulfup.com/?wLwT4r
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Use a program like Android System Info to find what programs are running. If you are rooted just freeze the apps that are safe to freeze and you see running in the background.
xclub_101 said:
Use a program like Android System Info to find what programs are running. If you are rooted just freeze the apps that are safe to freeze and you see running in the background.
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am already using Greenfiy and Battery Doctor .. !
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Android utilize ram differently then most systems. Isn't free ram wasted ram in this case.
What I have been told is that the Android OS loads apps into memory as a way to speed up processing and increase battery life and automatically empties this ram when more ram is needed. This is done to optimize performance and battery life.
So even if you might not use a certain app, its still left in memory incase u do use it and to avoid random increases in processing power decreasing overall battery life.
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You're RAM usage is perfectly fine
what happen with the ram usage ? Is so normally .
Remember , android os system is a multitasking os.
So when you close the program it not totally close , still running in background .
Replace Touchwiz with Apex or Nova launcher, and kill as much bloatware as possible.
Touchwiz alone is 600MB.
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Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Android utilize ram differently then most systems. Isn't free ram wasted ram in this case.
What I have been told is that the Android OS loads apps into memory as a way to speed up processing and increase battery life and automatically empties this ram when more ram is needed. This is done to optimize performance and battery life.
So even if you might not use a certain app, its still left in memory incase u do use it and to avoid random increases in processing power decreasing overall battery life.
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Yes, Android manages memory different way and it's stupid way to put it mildly. Unless I manually go and kill useless applications, they take up memory and many of those apps I never used and never ever will. And no matter what anybody tells you it takes time to clear memory for new programs to load and defragment it. Primary reason I had to root my phone to fix this idiocy and freeze or delete all the bloat since I was tired to force stop dozens of apps after each reboot. I won't even go into all other issues like when those programs run in the background wasting battery, use internet, or wake the phone from deep sleep.
And how on Earth loading and running never used apps in background optimizes performance and battery life?
Part of the reason they do that is "just in time" compilation, another stupid idea, which they just tried to fix in KK.
Just like others suggested OP could root and freeze/delete all the garbage he doesn't use and surprise, surprise the phone will run faster and battery will last longer.
You don't need to root to remove most of the bloatware. I didn't, and mine averages around 1.2GB in use with Firefox, Facebook, Whatsapp, LWP, Zooper, Twitter and Gmail open. It boots to 700MB in use.