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Ive seen People port from Windows mobile to Android.. is it possible opposite?
from Android to win mo?

ruslanriad said:
Ive seen People port from Windows mobile to Android.. is it possible opposite?
from Android to win mo?
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why on earth would you wanna ruin a perfectly good phone? lol

it 'may' be possible. nobody's working on it, as far as i know.
and, use the search button

you must like blue screens.

ruslanriad said:
Ive seen People port from Windows mobile to Android.. is it possible opposite?
from Android to win mo?
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timothydonohue said:
it 'may' be possible. nobody's working on it, as far as i know.
and, use the search button
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Like timothydonohue said... SEARCH. This worthless, waste of a thread topic has come up before and was promptly laughed off as a joke.

Why you asking for Windows Mobile, how about Windows Phone 7!

You CAN run Windoze on many laptops & desktops,,, but, why would you want to ??
Cheers!
Lodger (Smug linux user...)

windows is sh*tty i regreted buying hd2 rather than the nexus one be proud of your phone man and forget about windows and all its sh*t (from hd2 user )

While I do agree with these posts that Windows is a horrible mobile OS, let's at least try not to just fill this thread up with unhelpful opinions on how crappy it is.
The specs of the HD2 aren't vastly different to the Nexus so it may be possible to port that rom over, though I literally have no idea how or even if!

hoss_n2 said:
windows is sh*tty i regreted buying hd2 rather than the nexus one be proud of your phone man and forget about windows and all its sh*t (from hd2 user )
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I was on the fence about which phone I wanted. Decided to go with the Nexus One. If the HD2 ran Android, I'd get it in a heartbeat.

Ok forget why on earth you would want to do this... is it possible?
The main problem is that the bootloader sets up RAM and the MMU in a fixed way and then boots from a specific partition. Replacing the bootloader is dangerous, so you need a way to get around this.
When android is run on WM devices they get around this by using a Haret. This isnt an emulator, android doesnt run inside WM. This is what happens:
- Power up
- Bootloader runs
- Windows boots
- Run Haret
- Haret erases memory, reset the MMU, and efectivly undoes what the bootloader did and redoes it how we need it.
- Haret then loads android into the correct memory space and boots the kernel.
The exact same is possible in reverse. Using an app in android to reconfigure the MMU and boot windows.
However, you need ALOT of information about the APP processor in the phone, and its alot of work. As you can tell from the posts in this thread most people think its an insane idea and that Android is >>>>>> windows.
So although it IS possible you'll find it really hard to find a group of people with the motivation to do the work required to get it done.
People who say its impossible are il informed. People who say 'why the hell would you want to do it' are an illustration of the lack of motivation to put the work in to achieve it.

kam187 said:
Ok forget why on earth you would want to do this... is it possible?
The main problem is that the bootloader sets up RAM and the MMU in a fixed way and then boots from a specific partition. Replacing the bootloader is dangerous, so you need a way to get around this.
When android is run on WM devices they get around this by using a Haret. This isnt an emulator, android doesnt run inside WM. This is what happens:
- Power up
- Bootloader runs
- Windows boots
- Run Haret
- Haret erases memory, reset the MMU, and efectivly undoes what the bootloader did and redoes it how we need it.
- Haret then loads android into the correct memory space and boots the kernel.
The exact same is possible in reverse. Using an app in android to reconfigure the MMU and boot windows.
However, you need ALOT of information about the APP processor in the phone, and its alot of work. As you can tell from the posts in this thread most people think its an insane idea and that Android is >>>>>> windows.
So although it IS possible you'll find it really hard to find a group of people with the motivation to do the work required to get it done.
People who say its impossible are il informed. People who say 'why the hell would you want to do it' are an illustration of the lack of motivation to put the work in to achieve it.
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Thank you for your answer.
I used Windows mobile and yeah I didn't like it.
But i felt that WinMo OS is more powerful than Android.
Because everyone switch from WinMo to Android..
I just wanted to see how will it look opposite..
Nothing is Impossible. Its all just takes time and hard work.
People run different Oses on different hardware.
Sorry for taking your time guys. and yeah like you said there is allot of work have to be done.

[Q] Some infos before flashing

Hey guys,
it's my first post here, but I'm still some days here in this board, consuming the contents for my HD2 with apreciation.
HD2 was and still is -hardwaresides- a milestone. When it comes up to the stock OS, there are some major things that I don't get. M*cr*s*fts OS is making this device a cripple, if you ask me. But that's another discussion and even more I was excited when I firstly saw a good friend these days holding me his Leo up the nose with Android embedded.
Now, I'd like to know some things before "flashing" my Leo - if you can say so, as the only thing to do seems to apply some kind of bootloader instaed of cleaning and rewriting the ROM. Which leads me to the
1. Will the installer overwrite the WM6.5 ROM or will it run in a dual-boot system?
2. Will a physical hardreset (volume-buttons) return to the stock-Rom?
3. Which of the local Froyo versions is the most stable with nearly all components working and - if possible - NO skin customizations except SENSE?
Thanks for your help and I hope that Android will bring my Leo to a whole new level.

Prepare yourself for a flaming of a lifetime.

Postaldude said:
Hey guys,
it's my first post here, but I'm still some days here in this board, consuming the contents for my HD2 with apreciation.
HD2 was and still is -hardwaresides- a milestone. When it comes up to the stock OS, there are some major things that I don't get. M*cr*s*fts OS is making this device a cripple, if you ask me. But that's another discussion and even more I was excited when I firstly saw a good friend these days holding me his Leo up the nose with Android embedded.
Now, I'd like to know some things before "flashing" my Leo - if you can say so, as the only thing to do seems to apply some kind of bootloader instaed of cleaning and rewriting the ROM. Which leads me to the
1. Will the installer overwrite the WM6.5 ROM or will it run in a dual-boot system?
2. Will a physical hardreset (volume-buttons) return to the stock-Rom?
3. Which of the local Froyo versions is the most stable with nearly all components working and - if possible - NO skin customizations except SENSE?
Thanks for your help and I hope that Android will bring my Leo to a whole new level.
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First of all, why are you afraid to spell out Microsoft?
Second, Winmo didn't cripple HD2 at all, you have fully function phone.
Now, if you put Android on this phone, this make HD2 a cripple phone.
To answer your questions
1. No, Android will not overwrite the wm 6.5 rom, it need wm to run and it runs from sd card.
2. see #1, it will not alter wm rom, wm will be wm after reboot, you dont need to hardset.
3. This is like... personal preference, you have to try to see which build is for you.
the core here is kernel, if you try this build and you have problem, and you see another the build with the same kernel, it likely not going to fix your problem.

justwonder said:
First of all, why are you afraid to spell out Microsoft?
Second, Winmo didn't cripple HD2 at all, you have fully function phone.
Now, if you put Android on this phone, this make HD2 a cripple phone.
To answer your questions
1. No, Android will not overwrite the wm 6.5 rom, it need wm to run and it runs from sd card.
2. see #1, it will not alter wm rom, wm will be wm after reboot, you dont need to hardset.
3. This is like... personal preference, you have to try to see which build is for you.
the core here is kernel, if you try this build and you have problem, and you see another the build with the same kernel, it likely not going to fix your problem.
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1. Why shouldn't I? There are enough examples, that anonymity is not given in every way these days on the web...
2. No, it did run well. But it
-isn't nearly as smooth as the iPhone-OS or Android
-HTC Sense seems to stuck several times with WM 6.5, which brings me to conclusion that HTC wasn't allowed to create a consequent GUI without corrupting MS license restrictions
-Browsers (Stock Opera, Opera 10, Opera Mini, Skyfire) are really slow
-I got a bunch of crashes even with updated stock ROMs and CF 3.5 installed
-the response between OS and touchscreen is still very laggy which results in the over-sensibility and the so-called ghost-effect, when the screenkeys begin jerking out/ the screen is working commands that had been given more than a minute along
-pinch-to-zoom only seems to be a gimmick clearly running in the SENSE environment and apps based upon it. The WM GUI isn't compatible to it in many ways
- and most important, it still is giving me white knuckles that MS at last decided to make WMP 7 NOT available, needless to say, AFTER several Leos were sold with prediction for WMP 7 being available sooner or later
Sure, you got a working OS for everydays use, but it is as unattractive and as imperformant as it could be the day it came on such a steroidic device like the HD2. MS has epicly failed in giving attention to the mobile phone market, that's for sure. It isn't done with borderless synchonization of Outlook e-mail and contacts - because todays smartphones are capabale of so much more. For something like this, you don't need a 1 GHz Snapdragon, together with 512 MB systemmemory. And after making such hard license restrictions for developers that are in charge to use WMP7, I think this won't ever change.
And sure, you're able to customize this OS as far as you want. But take the usual Jon Doe, excited by HD2-Ads and offended by an OS, that feels and looks like it is 10 years old under the SENSE-surface, with an app-catalogue that's growing slower and slower. And Jon Doe's not the man to deal with custom roms and tweaks.
Now take Android on the other hand. Based on the Linux-Kernel, which is known to give you every possible freedom, together with every possible brick to handle - which you're able to fix by yourself and what makes it attractive mostly for enthusiastics - it's a good blend of functionality ergonomics/ease-of-use. These two words together exclamated each other more or less in the past and this is one of the reasons, why Linux as a desktop-system hasn't become more popular over the years of development. Besides this, linux distributions are the fastest and most stable running OS I ever used on a PC. Now, Android is in charge and able to become as popular as MS is on desktop-systems, because it's working good. Most of the start-up problems that occured on early Droids are eliminated, this phone-OS becomes more and more performant. And it seems to be a lot more flexible than any other phone-OS
Finally, this discussion turned right the way i thought it would end. I'd like to thank you all for your information at first. If you'd like to make further dialogue affecting the goods and bads of WM, please contact me PM.

[Q] Recommend Android Roms for Tmobile HD2

I have been an old user for WMo but newbie to Android except playing on my wife's vibrant a little bit. I'd like to try Android out on HD2 as WMo is officially dead. Here is some questions (which I searched and couldn't find definitive answers).
1. The Android builds listed in the Leo section, do they ALL work for tmobile HD2 or there actually is a difference between a Tmous HD2 build and a Leo build (like the difference between WM roms for each device)? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that these builds are the same but I really appreciate if someone could confirm that for me.
2. Can you guys recommend an Android build that (1) works with Tmo 3.14 stock rom (2) has sense UI (3) has no battery life issue (4) has the least number of bugs. I don't want to ask an open ended questions like what is the best android build. I actually do have these specific requirements in mind.
The reason I come with so many requirements is I have been using WMo since Tmo wing (2007) and TP2 (2009) and have gotten so used to it that I don't want to give it up. The new 3.14 stock rom only froze on me once when opera mobile cached too many files so it's half way my fault. Even though so many people hate WMo, to me it's just great as it simply works for me as I learned how to work around all the problems.
The requirement for sense is HTC simply perfected the user experience on WMo with the sense addition (also thanks to the capacitive screen that HD2 has). I would like to start with something that I'm familiar with.
Also seems a lot of discussion has been going on that the battery drain is no longer an issue with the current android builds. Is that true for all of them? Or some specific ones that has implemented some sort of fix?
I like to use Android as my daily OS so of course the requirement for least number of bugs.
3. OTA updates. Looks like native Android phone can update themselves when updates are released in the air. Would the HD2 android build be able to do the same? Or do I have to re-install a new build whenever updates come available (like flash a WMo rom)? I know when flashing a WMo rom I have to reinstall all software but when I install a new android build, can I somehow keep all the software I have without reinstall everything?

wearefree said:
I have been an old user for WMo but newbie to Android except playing on my wife's vibrant a little bit. I'd like to try Android out on HD2 as WMo is officially dead. Here is some questions (which I searched and couldn't find definitive answers).
1. The Android builds listed in the Leo section, do they ALL work for tmobile HD2 or there actually is a difference between a Tmous HD2 build and a Leo build (like the difference between WM roms for each device)? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that these builds are the same but I really appreciate if someone could confirm that for me.
2. Can you guys recommend an Android build that (1) works with Tmo 3.14 stock rom (2) has sense UI (3) has no battery life issue (4) has the least number of bugs. I don't want to ask an open ended questions like what is the best android build. I actually do have these specific requirements in mind.
The reason I come with so many requirements is I have been using WMo since Tmo wing (2007) and TP2 (2009) and have gotten so used to it that I don't want to give it up. The new 3.14 stock rom only froze on me once when opera mobile cached too many files so it's half way my fault. Even though so many people hate WMo, to me it's just great as it simply works for me as I learned how to work around all the problems.
The requirement for sense is HTC simply perfected the user experience on WMo with the sense addition (also thanks to the capacitive screen that HD2 has). I would like to start with something that I'm familiar with.
Also seems a lot of discussion has been going on that the battery drain is no longer an issue with the current android builds. Is that true for all of them? Or some specific ones that has implemented some sort of fix?
I like to use Android as my daily OS so of course the requirement for least number of bugs.
3. OTA updates. Looks like native Android phone can update themselves when updates are released in the air. Would the HD2 android build be able to do the same? Or do I have to re-install a new build whenever updates come available (like flash a WMo rom)? I know when flashing a WMo rom I have to reinstall all software but when I install a new android build, can I somehow keep all the software I have without reinstall everything?
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1. They are exactly the same. It is not discriminant between internation and US versions of the HD2. (unless otherwise posted)
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747492
3. You shouldn't do the OTA updates, it'll probably have some unforeseen complications. Just find an updated build.

as far as i know your going to have to switch to a custom rom. the stock 3.14 has robot voice which means it needs the correct audio drivers to work with android. search around there is plenty of barebones roms around(rom that is pretty much the exact same thing as 3.14 only with the correct drivers).
i have tried dozens of android build and have found this one Mdeejay_eVo_Sense_v._2.3Revolution to be the best. it has the best battery life i have found. with stock winmo with avarage use i was running 30% give or take battery life at the end of the day. with this android build im sitting at usually over 50% with the same if not more use.

dennis- said:
as far as i know your going to have to switch to a custom rom. the stock 3.14 has robot voice which means it needs the correct audio drivers to work with android. search around there is plenty of barebones roms around(rom that is pretty much the exact same thing as 3.14 only with the correct drivers).
i have tried dozens of android build and have found this one Mdeejay_eVo_Sense_v._2.3Revolution to be the best. it has the best battery life i have found. with stock winmo with avarage use i was running 30% give or take battery life at the end of the day. with this android build im sitting at usually over 50% with the same if not more use.
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You only need a custom radio to run android properly, stock rom works fine. However there are roms optimized for android that you should look into. Most of them give the same sense experience with much moore fun features and an optimized android experience.

Thanks to all of you for your input. I will have to stick to stock WMo rom as this is my primary OS (at least for now).
I will start with Mdeejay_eVo_Sense_v._2.3Revolution to get a feeling how android works on a daily basis (playing for a few seconds every time doesn't really count), then decide whether I can use android as primary OS.
All my contacts, emails and calendars are synced with Google (so if Google decides to spy on me they know exactly what to do, haha) so the migration should be relatively smooth when I decide to switch.

New question: the android build worked fine for the first time but I can never go back in there. Now it just hands on the HTC screen indefinitely...
Any advice?

Finally figured out what went wrong. I re-formatted the stock SD card, copied the android folder in there first before I copied everything else back, and use the android loader. Now it's all good, except loading android can be a very long process... due to the stock slow sd card. But at least it works every time now.

[Q] Pure android

Excuse me..
I'm nooby... I'm indonesian..I can speak little english..
I have question,
is it possible run android in blackstone without windows mobile ?
only android..

as of now, it isn't.
windows mobile initializes the hardware during its boot and it is not documented, which steps exactly there are. without this information, it is nearly impossibly to build a nandroid (android for nand flash) rom. also, the releases up to now are not stable enough, so there is the chance of bricking the device. however, you should prefer sd card android, because it is easy to install and safe, and as long as major features like full camera support, bluetooth... are still missing, it is no every day OS yet, and being able to switch between the 2 OSs is nice too. in case you are worried about the speed of android, when it is running on top of WM, don't be, the kernel is killed during android's booting procedure, so winmo does not actually run anymore.

As far as i know, it is not possible to use android as the main operating system on HD. But i have still hope for getting rid of sloww windows and using android o.s. as the main one. U can have a look at this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874906

indeed it's not possible, ive been using GBX0A however, and it is very fast on my Blackstone !
+ i can use it 2 days with calling/texting and stuff, maybe 3

Paitence dude the dev's are working on it and hopefully one day we will be able to rid ourselves of old school windows mobile

[Q] Creating a snapshot of my HD2

I'm currently running a stock ROM.
There are some apps I absolutely need/want on my phone. Stuff like Remote Desktop, WiFiRouter, TomTom, Skype, Live Messenger and the ability to play streaming ASF/ASX files. All this works perfect in WM 6.5 - which is the reason I've never tried something like Android.
Although everything is running perfectly smooth, I'm kinda annoyed by the lack of apps available for WM 6.5. Which is the reason I want to experiment with Android on this phone. But I also want an easy return-path, meaning that if I can't find alternatives for the earlier mentioned WM6.5 apps, I want to go back to my old setup.
I know I could simply re-flash a stock ROM. But I'm not looking forward setting up/installing all my apps again. Even though I don't have many apps running on WM6.5, setting them up properly was a b**ch.
So I was wondering if there is a way to create a snapshot of the entire phone? Sort of like a Ghost/Image on a PC? So that when I want to go back, I only have to do a single restore and my phone is again exactly as it is now?

To take a quick snap shot of your HD2 theres this small app called VSnap http://mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82&task=view.download&cid=55 and alot of other apps you can use. =) Make sure you thank the Author too. =) And to get back all your registrys try this http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/easily-backup-registry-values-with-settingsexporter/ i hope you found what you were looking for. =)

Have you considered dual booting? Android runs very well off the SD card and you can leave the WM 6.5 installation intact. The files from both OS's will peacefully co-exist on the SD card... No need to partition it, and Android is easily removable if you don't care for it.

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To take a quick snap shot of your HD2 theres this small app called VSnap http://mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82&task=view.download&cid=55 and alot of other apps you can use. =) Make sure you thank the Author too. =)
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As far as I understand the OP would like to make a complete dump of the content of his device. Not just a screenshot. That is something that you can do with a number of programs. VSNap appears to be one of them.

Thats what i tought that he meant that he wanted a complete dump of all his content. But the OP also said that :
So I was wondering if there is a way to create a snapshot of the entire phone?
zippy1970 what i recomment is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159797 from GhostXSeries make sure to thank him if you download. It allows you to build your own rom with all your settings and programs. i hope this helps.

RobE. said:
Have you considered dual booting? Android runs very well off the SD card and you can leave the WM 6.5 installation intact. The files from both OS's will peacefully co-exist on the SD card... No need to partition it, and Android is easily removable if you don't care for it.
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That's what I ended up doing, using RunDroid. But I was wondering if there was a speed penalty for running of the SD card. I tried a few Android flavors and some seem to run very slow while others fly. Also, I'm kinda shocked to see that with some Android builds I seem to get no more than a few hours of battery life. But that's a story for an entirely different thread I guess.