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So I'm sitting at home patiently waiting for the UPS man to come with my new Vibrant. In my pocket is my beloved Nexus One.
I had a chance to play with a vibrant in a Tmo store and really liked it. Seemed speedier than my N1 in almost every aspect and that screen is just gorgeous!
I'd like to hear from any Nexus One users that jumped ship to the Vibrant. Are you happy with your decision? Any issues?
I'll be side by siding these two beasts for the next 14 days (return period). And only one will stay with me. I'd just like to hear some other peoples experiences.
I find the Vibrant better in every regard. The one thing I miss is how speedy development came to the N1 (for obvious reasons). I (and the developers) are more accustom to HTC phones...
BUT, speed, screen, sound, keyboard, I really like everything better.
Some people complain about a GPS issue, that a lot of us do not have.....
You wont have froyo immediately....
I like how solid the N1 feels in my hand....
those are about the only things I can think of.
I sold my rooted nexus one for this.
The good:
Better screen (WOW) you'll see
Better Speaker
Faster Data Pulling (you'll be surprised how good edge is even )
Better widgets (touchwiz is lovely)
The bad:
doesn't open apps as fast as Nexus
Switching from 3g to Edge takes way longer than the nexus
Battery a tiny bit worse than nexus
Feels horrible compared to the nexus build (the vibrant is cheaply built) PLASTIC
going from screen to screen, you will get a slight jerk... not smooth like launcherpro/ADW or 2.2 Froyo default home
Other than that, this phone is lovely and its a keeper. I'm waiting for a replacement battery. maybe the 3500Mah they had for the nexus one.That will also put some weight on it. it's like a feather now.
I too sold my N1. I did for all the aforementioned reasons plus I really like being able to take the phone instore for warranty issues instead of waiting a week or two for htc to get my phone fix it and ship it back.....
The battery specs on the Vibrant seem WAY better than the N1, but I've been seeing some complaints on battery life. Whats the deal with that? Was Samsung overexerting the standby time?
I'll miss froyo, But once it hits the vibrant I assume it will be BLAZING fast with JIT on the hummingbird. Besides the speed, Flash in the browser kinda sucks anyways on N1 (slow!). So going back to 2.1 wont be a huge loss.
I love my nexus, but its had its issues. I'm currently on my 3rd swap out from HTC due to the screen not working and dust under the digitizer. Hoping I have good luck with the vibrant and its GPS issues.
I guess I'll have to wait and see which wins... I plan on keeping both for a couple of weeks before I decide.
thanks for your opinions!
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Feels horrible compared to the nexus build (the vibrant is cheaply built) PLASTIC
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I beg to differ.. its user preference, I prefer it being lightweight its a lot different than the G1 whereas it feels like a brick. I don't think its a con whatsoever, doesn't feel cheap at all.. check out the videos where they try and "scratch" and damage it. The phone could take a hit.
Just got the Vibrant today, bought the Nexus on the day it was announced. I'm likely sending the Vibrant back and keeping the Nexus. Here are my first impressions:
1: Unbelievably light and, unfortunately, cheap feeling, particularly the buttons (Vol. and on/off). The build quality of the Nexus One feels like it's in an entirely different league here.
2: Nice screen size though my phone will not display a true white or grey. Instead, everything has a cyan/blue tinge. This actually is my biggest issue with the phone right now. The Nexus gives true whites and greys and, even with the brightness all the way up, no true white or gray on the vibrant. Menus, text, market and web pages show this every time I open them - it's driving me nuts.
3: The music app contains a real to life Equalizer and a number of other sound settings. This is one feature I really love and will miss if I send the phone back. Sound quality is very good, though not through the crap headphones Samsung provides. Here again, the quality of the Nexus headphones are noticeably better.
4: Neither the Compass or the GPS work correctly on my phone making the phone useless until a fix is released for what I actually use it most for - Google Places and voice navigation.
5: The image quality of photo's taken with the camera are very good for a phone. Auto weight balance works perfectly under various light sources. Much better than Nexus in this department, though I do miss the flash - which I used mostly as a flashlight!
6: The size feels a little uncomfortable in the hand compared to the Nexus but that's likely just something I have gotten used to.
7: Battery life seems like it will be much better than Nexus.
Anyway, I know the GPS and Compass will be fixed and perhaps I could get used to the flimsy build quality but the screen is a deal breaker as I expected it to be superior to the Nexus One. It's not. If I had to guess, I suspect Samsung has used some sort of Polarizing film to reduce glare outside in bright light which is resulting in the blue/cyan tinge.
Sold my Nexus and both docks, got a nice chunk if change and got the Vibrant. Its the best phone out right now IMO.
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tariqgibran said:
Just got the Vibrant today, bought the Nexus on the day it was announced. I'm likely sending the Vibrant back and keeping the Nexus. Here are my first impressions:
1: Unbelievably light and, unfortunately, cheap feeling, particularly the buttons (Vol. and on/off). The build quality of the Nexus One feels like it's in an entirely different league here.
PERSONALLY I don't equate light-weight with cheap...it's very VERY light weight, but it doesn't feel cheaply made to me. The biggest complaint I have about the build quality personally is the "metal" bezel(of course it's plastic). I feel like that will scratch if it's looked at incorrectly. lol. But IMO it doesn't feel cheaply made at all
2: Nice screen size though my phone will not display a true white or grey. Instead, everything has a cyan/blue tinge. This actually is my biggest issue with the phone right now. The Nexus gives true whites and greys and, even with the brightness all the way up, no true white or gray on the vibrant. Menus, text, market and web pages show this every time I open them - it's driving me nuts.
Direct Quote about OLED's that explains the blue tint:
"...since the OLED material used to produce blue light degrades significantly more rapidly than the materials that produce other colors, blue light output will decrease relative to the other colors of light...In order to delay the problem, manufacturers bias the colour balance towards blue so that the display initially has an artificially blue tint, leading to complaints of artificial-looking, over-saturated colors..."
4: Neither the Compass or the GPS work correctly on my phone making the phone useless until a fix is released for what I actually use it most for - Google Places and voice navigation.
This is a problem only SOME units have, and additionally, even if yours DOES have the problem, there's a fix for it here in the forums
6: The size feels a little uncomfortable in the hand compared to the Nexus but that's likely just something I have gotten used to.
I think this depends on the size of your hands. Going from a Touch Pro2 with a 3.6" screen to a 4.3" on the HD2 I didn't like it. It was hard to text on when trying to reach across the screen...but this 4" screen fit perfectly into my hands. It also makes it feel more like a "phone" and not a "pda". I know the Nexus has a 3.7" screen, but like he said, I think you'd get used to it.
7: Battery life seems like it will be much better than Nexus.
Trust me....depends on what you have running and when you have it running lol. This thing will randomly start apps that you never tell it to start(telenav for example) and they'll run in the background for no reason at all lol. I've had situations where with ZERO use....it just sitting idle....after 8 hrs it used up almost 50% of the battery. Darker(blacker) backgrounds help on battery life too. I tested a live wall paper at 100% brightness for 30 mins and a completely black wallpaper at 100% brightness and there was a 100% increase of battery life drain. 4% after 1 half hour vs 2% after 1 half hour(i actually think the same would apply to the nexus one since it's an amoled screen)
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As he stated at the end though, the GPS will soon be fixed(officially that is) by Samsung, and you'll probably have to get used to the feel of it vs the Nexus 1...but I had an opportunity to buy either, and I used both for 1 day, and couldn't put the Vibrant down so I went with it.
Edit: and though not as good as an LED light, because the Vibrant uses SAMOLED the white screens at full brightness are ridiculously bright lol. So if you use one of the screen flash light apps, it'd probably be the brightest...but again, it's not as bright as an LED flash light. But Trust me...it definitely works lol
lp894 said:
As he stated at the end though, the GPS will soon be fixed(officially that is) by Samsung, and you'll probably have to get used to the feel of it vs the Nexus 1...but I had an opportunity to buy either, and I used both for 1 day, and couldn't put the Vibrant down so I went with it.
Edit: and though not as good as an LED light, because the Vibrant uses SAMOLED the white screens at full brightness are ridiculously bright lol. So if you use one of the screen flash light apps, it'd probably be the brightest...but again, it's not as bright as an LED flash light. But Trust me...it definitely works lol
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The screen on the specific Vibrant I received is nowhere near as bright as the Nexus screen, even at full brightness and the cyan/blue tinge is not so subtle. Many are stating that the blue look is normal with OLED's yet neither my Nexus nor my wife's have this problem at all. There is also growing evidence that the Vibrant display is not consistant from phone to phone, with some reporting the blue issue more than others, even when examining four vibrants simultaneously (so this is not just subjective). Thus, don't buy the whole explanation that Samsung added mor blue to counteract future blue degradation over time. I think what those of us with extremely tinged blue screens are experiencing is a quality control issue, plain and simple - perhaps it has something to do with an inconsistency in the SOLED manufacturing process, I don't know. I do know that all OLED's do not have this issue and, apparently, not even all Samsung SOLED Vibrants!
Regarding the "cheap" feel, my volume button rattles when I handle the phone and has no definite "detent" feel. Perhaps mine is unique, but this definitely lends a flimsy feel to the phone, particularly compared to the firm feel of the Nexus buttons. Think I wil return this vibrant and see what a replacement offers as I must have received a dud. To be fair, the Nexus my wife received initially had to be returned due to a quality control issue. I think most of these devices today are at the bleeding edge of manufacturing technology.
I got rid of my 3 week old N1 for the Vibrant, and I have no regrets at all. I'm very much in love with this phone. I think the only major issue with the phone for most is the GPS problems, but Samsung already said they're working on a fix.
Yeah, the phone is very light weight, but as soon as I bought the thick gel case from T-Mo it really did add a great weight to the phone.
I'm a phone whore that switches phones pretty much every time a new phone hits the market, and I've gotta say the Vibrant just might be the best I've ever owned.
I sort of gave up my Nexus One for a Vibrant. My wife wanted my Nexus One because T-Mobile still doesn't have a good phone for photographs (Vibrant included).
I had just gotten her a MT3G Slide, so I trade it back to them for the Vibrant.
So far, the only thing I have to complain about is the lack of a Camera flash, it completely hinders the camera in most lighting situations after 6PM EST, haha.
Also, the body does feel cheaply constructed. The Nexus One had the most solid design of any phone I have ever owned or held in my hand.
I miss my N1, but the Vibrant is a GREAT alternative. I can say I love this phone, and most of that love is coming from the BEAUTIFUL screen.
I had a Nexus, and my wife had a MyTouch. She was wanting to upgrade, so we decided that I would get a Vibrant, and she would get my Nexus. We have since given away the MyTouch.
I have to say, at first, I was LOVING my Vibrant! it was incredible! The screen, and benchmarks spoke for themselves! Heck, I was even able to ditch a couple of mediocre apps for the pre-installed apps!
I've had my Vibrant for...17 days now. I've NEVER had any luck with the GPS, although it is handy for a game called "The Great Land Grab", since I can now buy land in states and countries I've never even been to before! (I bought a piece of land in CHINA!!! WOOT!) I've tried ALL of the fixes posted here at XDA and elsewhere. All of them seemed to help, but then I realized it was mostly a placebo effect. "742 people said this fix worked perfectly! It's gotta fix my GPS! Hey, it only took 17 minutes this time! YAY! It's all better!" Coming from a long line of HTC phones (G1, MyTouch, Nexus), I've come to expect good GPS performance, and I use maps and nav a LOT. (Well, I used to) I'm extremely disappointed in this, to the point that I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
The screen is AMAZING! The picture quality is intense, and it displays video so fluidly! I can't say enough good things about how beautiful it is! The screen difference is .4 inches, but it looks and feels like it's HUGE in comparison. I've never seen a screen on a cell phone that can show as deep black as this. If you set your phone up poroperly, you can have it on, but not be able to tell (ADW.Launcher/black wallpaper/no status bar/no icons/empty dock/dock open - Looks amazing!) It's such a nice display!
The phone SHOULD be WAY faster. the specs make the Nexus look old and dated. Of course, when you're used to touching an app shortcut, and it just HAPPENS, a 2-10 second lag seems like FOREVER! There are some MAJOR design flaws in the Vibrant, such as the 16 gig internal storage. It's a class 6, yes, but it's got VERY serious i/o issues, so almost everything that calls on the resources on it stalls and lags. (You'll see TONS of people who say there's no lag, but most of those people came from a dated phone, like a G1 or MyTouch. It's WAY faster than any of the older generation 1 or generation 2 phones, but it's painfully slow when you're used to the powerhouse known as Nexus. (2 seconds doesn't sound long, until you're trying to show off your phone, and you feel the need to explain that "it takes a second or two to load up, but when it does..." and you have TIME to explain that to someone while you wait. It's not nearly as snappy or responsive as it should be, considering this is a flagship device with specs to make most phones look like crap. SUPPOSEDLY, this phone is more powerful than a PSP, but the design flaws make it perform more like an NES. Once it gets going, it's GREAT, but it's the getting it up and running that sucks.
The phone does feel lighter, and cheaper, but it depends on your point of view if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I personally prefer the feel of the Nexus, because it feels more solid.
The loudspeaker on the Vibrant is WAY better than the speaker on the Nexus, although I have to think it something to do with the "hollow-ish" phone back echoing the sound, and therefore amplifying it somewhat, but I haven't tried a direct comparison with the phone backs off.
The Vibrant out-performs most phones on the market in terms of benchmark scores (linpak not included) however, if you were to perform a side-by side comparison of getting those benchmarks loaded up, you would likely have no doubt that the Vibrant is considerably slower. (I'm talking of the latest generation of 1ghz phones, like Nexus, DroidX, and EVO)
If the GPS (and compass, which is HOPELESSLY broken) and lag issues could be resolved, I think the Vibrant could be a contender as possibly the best phone on the planet, but in it's current form, it feels a lot like that funky cousin you try to avoid at family reunions. "Well, he came from a great family, and he's really smart, but he's just a bit off...I mean, look at him, he's pouring his soda into his shoes!"
Overall, I think in it's current state, the Vibrant can't hold a candle to the Nexus, and depending on the I/O issues, it may NEVER compare, but if they can get it running better, and make everything WORK, it will make the Nexus feel like a G1.
My choice for best phone: Nexus
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lp894 said:
4: Neither the Compass or the GPS work correctly on my phone making the phone useless until a fix is released for what I actually use it most for - Google Places and voice navigation.
This is a problem only SOME units have, and additionally, even if yours DOES have the problem, there's a fix for it here in the forums
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You sound like a PR rep for samsung, not an actual end user. It's comments and sentiments like these that make forums useless for researching products. Too many people bitterly rationalizing bad purchases.
As an owner of a Vibrant I'm probably returning mine, after waiting the full 14 days to see if Samsung would at least indicate that they're working on any sort of fix. They finally started talking about the GPS, but there is no mention of the compass problem yet and I suspect it will remain broken.
The sick part is there are so many people new to android that they don't even realize how broken the compass is. Try using Layar, wikitude, anything related to augmented reality or positional awareness and you'll realize how useless it is.
If you don't care about fancy augmented reality/positional awareness applications or GPS working properly then the vibrant is a great phone.
bryon13 said:
"Well, he came from a great family, and he's really smart, but he's just a bit off...I mean, look at him, he's pouring his soda into his shoes!"
Overall, I think in it's current state, the Vibrant can't hold a candle to the Nexus, and depending on the I/O issues, it may NEVER compare, but if they can get it running better, and make everything WORK, it will make the Nexus feel like a G1.
My choice for best phone: Nexus
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Thanks, you made gave me a good laugh today.
+1 on everything you said.
hollabax said:
You sound like a PR rep for samsung, not an actual end user. It's comments and sentiments like these that make forums useless for researching products. Too many people bitterly rationalizing bad purchases.
As an owner of a Vibrant I'm probably returning mine, after waiting the full 14 days to see if Samsung would at least indicate that they're working on any sort of fix. They finally started talking about the GPS, but there is no mention of the compass problem yet and I suspect it will remain broken.
The sick part is there are so many people new to android that they don't even realize how broken the compass is. Try using Layar, wikitude, anything related to augmented reality or positional awareness and you'll realize how useless it is.
If you don't care about fancy augmented reality/positional awareness applications or GPS working properly then the vibrant is a great phone.
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Just out of curiosity, are the GPS and Compass interrelated somehow such that a GPS fix would fix the compass? OR, is there distinct hardware functions that control the two independently?
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Just out of curiosity, are the GPS and Compass interrelated somehow such that a GPS fix would fix the compass? OR, is there distinct hardware functions that control the two independently?
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Last I heard, they think the compass is what breaks the gps, according to Tmo and Samsung. Which worries me, because a compass is just a floating magnet. If it's hardware broken, and that's what breaks gps, there may be NO way to fix it. ):
I really hope I'm wrong.
I'd like to thank Swype for all of my typos.
my GPS works fine.....I dont use compass and never did. Gave my Nexus to GF and using Vibrant. While there are many improvement to be made, its MUCH better then Nexus when it was released (I had 3 replacements, all 3 had: 3g issues, light sensor issues, pink camera, and crappy touchscreen....phone was almost useless, but after 3rd party ROMs, Nexus became a good phone with many flaws fixed)
yeah, compass seems to be ****ed, just checked. will compare to Nexus today. ps. navigation-wise I checked both and they seemed to perform the same.
read that compass is software issue and should be fixed. i think its fair to say that we ALL need to give Samsung a chance to fix issues. so far there was no update to Vibrant and it WILL come end of September....maybe October....
and its gonna be a pretty damn big update, not only we get fixes for bugs and possibly more add-ons (features) to Touchwiz, we are also getting a Froyo !
bryon13 said:
I had a Nexus, and my wife had a MyTouch. She was wanting to upgrade, so we decided that I would get a Vibrant, and she would get my Nexus. We have since given away the MyTouch.
I have to say, at first, I was LOVING my Vibrant! it was incredible! The screen, and benchmarks spoke for themselves! Heck, I was even able to ditch a couple of mediocre apps for the pre-installed apps!
I've had my Vibrant for...17 days now. I've NEVER had any luck with the GPS, although it is handy for a game called "The Great Land Grab", since I can now buy land in states and countries I've never even been to before! (I bought a piece of land in CHINA!!! WOOT!) I've tried ALL of the fixes posted here at XDA and elsewhere. All of them seemed to help, but then I realized it was mostly a placebo effect. "742 people said this fix worked perfectly! It's gotta fix my GPS! Hey, it only took 17 minutes this time! YAY! It's all better!" Coming from a long line of HTC phones (G1, MyTouch, Nexus), I've come to expect good GPS performance, and I use maps and nav a LOT. (Well, I used to) I'm extremely disappointed in this, to the point that I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
The screen is AMAZING! The picture quality is intense, and it displays video so fluidly! I can't say enough good things about how beautiful it is! The screen difference is .4 inches, but it looks and feels like it's HUGE in comparison. I've never seen a screen on a cell phone that can show as deep black as this. If you set your phone up poroperly, you can have it on, but not be able to tell (ADW.Launcher/black wallpaper/no status bar/no icons/empty dock/dock open - Looks amazing!) It's such a nice display!
The phone SHOULD be WAY faster. the specs make the Nexus look old and dated. Of course, when you're used to touching an app shortcut, and it just HAPPENS, a 2-10 second lag seems like FOREVER! There are some MAJOR design flaws in the Vibrant, such as the 16 gig internal storage. It's a class 6, yes, but it's got VERY serious i/o issues, so almost everything that calls on the resources on it stalls and lags. (You'll see TONS of people who say there's no lag, but most of those people came from a dated phone, like a G1 or MyTouch. It's WAY faster than any of the older generation 1 or generation 2 phones, but it's painfully slow when you're used to the powerhouse known as Nexus. (2 seconds doesn't sound long, until you're trying to show off your phone, and you feel the need to explain that "it takes a second or two to load up, but when it does..." and you have TIME to explain that to someone while you wait. It's not nearly as snappy or responsive as it should be, considering this is a flagship device with specs to make most phones look like crap. SUPPOSEDLY, this phone is more powerful than a PSP, but the design flaws make it perform more like an NES. Once it gets going, it's GREAT, but it's the getting it up and running that sucks.
The phone does feel lighter, and cheaper, but it depends on your point of view if this is a good thing or a bad thing. I personally prefer the feel of the Nexus, because it feels more solid.
The loudspeaker on the Vibrant is WAY better than the speaker on the Nexus, although I have to think it something to do with the "hollow-ish" phone back echoing the sound, and therefore amplifying it somewhat, but I haven't tried a direct comparison with the phone backs off.
The Vibrant out-performs most phones on the market in terms of benchmark scores (linpak not included) however, if you were to perform a side-by side comparison of getting those benchmarks loaded up, you would likely have no doubt that the Vibrant is considerably slower. (I'm talking of the latest generation of 1ghz phones, like Nexus, DroidX, and EVO)
If the GPS (and compass, which is HOPELESSLY broken) and lag issues could be resolved, I think the Vibrant could be a contender as possibly the best phone on the planet, but in it's current form, it feels a lot like that funky cousin you try to avoid at family reunions. "Well, he came from a great family, and he's really smart, but he's just a bit off...I mean, look at him, he's pouring his soda into his shoes!"
Overall, I think in it's current state, the Vibrant can't hold a candle to the Nexus, and depending on the I/O issues, it may NEVER compare, but if they can get it running better, and make everything WORK, it will make the Nexus feel like a G1.
My choice for best phone: Nexus
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I had the nexus, and already I've had more problems with the nexus than I did the Vibrant, it's by far faster and more usable. I LOVED my Nexus, but still..seeing all the things wrong with it I definitely like the Vibrant better. True multitouch, super crisp clear screen where even Avatar looks like you're watching it in stereoscopic 3D. Everything has been superb. The GPS problem is a given and I read up before I bought. Still more satisfied, an yes battery life is better as I could never get a "full" days use out of my Nexus even with everything turned off.
so i have an evo, went to the sprint store last thursday to get an epic 4g, for some reason they said i had an upgrade (my sprint contract started in june?), so i take the epic home and i go through the rounds of adding all my favorite apps and what not and here are the pros and cons coming from an evo user.
PROS:
The screen is god, it the best thing about this phone.
the epics camera takes better low light photos than my evo.
the 3d games run and look way better on the epic.
some touchwiz functions are very convenient
CONS:
LAGGGGGG, sometimes its bad sometimes its not, drop down notification bar lags, THE CAMERA when moving it to another shot the image on the screen lagsss, not every time but enough to be annoying.
The capacitive buttons....geez dont even get me started on those...
and the QWERTY keyboard.. man i love a good physical keyboard..but the buttons are flat and i guess my fingers are to fat so i have to be super super careful when im typing..or ill hit two buttons at onces...(last physical kb i had was a touch pro)
that is pretty much it, UI lag..and unresponsive buttons... the plastic quality really wasn't that bad i could live with that, but my evo (unrooted) performs flawlessly, i mean the screen may seem washed out next to the epic but it hardly ever lags...camera is great (most of the time) and sense UI (with launcher pro on top) works great, so i guess ill be taking mine back tomorrow, might look into the galaxy tab when it comes out or a windows mobile 7 phone this fall.
Don't really understand the lag as mine has none.
Far and away faster than my previous EVO.
I was under the impression the tmobile Vibrant experiences lag but the Sprint Epic does not. hmm. Ill figure it out when I get mine tomorrow.
Yeah I also had an upgrade for all three lines after starting a new contract in June... I wasn't complaining
Lol. The Epic doesn't lag. Doesn't slow down. It's faster on 2.1 than the EVO is on 2.2. If my Epic had those issues, I would take it back for a replacement... because something is faulty.
yall are crazy
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this guy is crazy, do not listen to him.
there is absolutely no lag.
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Don't really understand the lag as mine has none.
Far and away faster than my previous EVO.
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same here no lagggggggss over here
I went from an Evo to a Vibrant after my Evo screen started falling off. It's only a matter of time before the Galaxy phones start lagging. It gets worse over time. I'm not sure if it's log files getting full or just the file system not optimized. Make sure you're clearing your text messages too. A lot of texts will cripple the phone after a while.
Overall the phone can be pretty snappy but there are moments where it sits for 5 - 10 seconds while you wait for something to open. Sometimes it shows a black screen while you're waiting.
I can't speak for the Epic 4G but i'm not sure how different it could be from other galaxy s models.
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I went from an Evo to a Vibrant after my Evo screen started falling off. It's only a matter of time before the Galaxy phones start lagging. It gets worse over time. I'm not sure if it's log files getting full or just the file system not optimized. Make sure you're clearing your text messages too. A lot of texts will cripple the phone after a while.
Overall the phone can be pretty snappy but there are moments where it sits for 5 - 10 seconds while you wait for something to open. Sometimes it shows a black screen while you're waiting.
I can't speak for the Epic 4G but i'm not sure how different it could be from other galaxy s models.
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It is very different. the other galaxy s phones suffer from the type of file system they use due to large internal memory. there is a "lag fix" for the vibrant and captivate that solves the issue (and boosts quadrant scores to 2000+ due to how quadrant handles the i/o portion of its benchmark).
Samsung preloaded the Epic with their own fix. Everything is snappy for me and I've yet to encounter any stuttering\lag. The phone boots up in about 20-30 seconds. Apps open very fast, and close just as fast. The only slowness I've seen is when using swype on a very busy web page - the evo is also affected by this though.
lol i was just posting my experience with the device, maybe mine was faulty, who knows, im happy with my evo for now, i do admit that the apps did download and open up faster on the epic.
I would give it another try. The device us really good. I have experienced a few slow downs but when 2.2 comes out, those issues will be fixed.
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Lol. The Epic doesn't lag. Doesn't slow down. It's faster on 2.1 than the EVO is on 2.2. If my Epic had those issues, I would take it back for a replacement... because something is faulty.
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What did people think this phone be? Did they think when the pick up the phone the sky would open and angles would sing. It's a phone. Didn't they do any research before they bought the phone? Are maybe they just have bad phones? I don't know.
I actually switched from a international galaxy s, because of the speed of the epic, it's truly the fastest phone I've used, there's no lag apps open/close immediately and I have 50 apps installed on mine , if you want even faster performance use Launcher Pro. even with the Touchwiz launcher it's still fast, but with launcher Pro this phone just screams.
So far the only explanation for this is the internal memory and the touchwiz itself are different compared with other galaxy s phones, the file system isn't really affecting these phones.
i see a lot of people complaining about lag on the vibrant, my dad has one and i'm planning on getting one to replace my N1 as a normal useage phone (mostly because i'm stick of waiting 6 months for cyanogen updates now)
Anyway, i've noticed pretty much no lag on my dads vibrant for the last month or so. it sometimes takes a few seconds to load some of the default apps like dialer, contacts or messaging, but once your in there it's smooth as can be. Sims 3 is running amazingly smooth, and i can jump around avatar with pretty much no lag at all. and this is on a stock, unrooted, vibrant.
So i'm just wondering, so many people are complaining about the lag but i see none.
also downloading the update to my dads phone now so i'm curious to see how that will play into this.
*edit* oh and one thing i want to add, the 3d gallery, launcherpro, and any game is easilly running with a 2-3x faster framerate than my Cm6 N1. Honestly my dads phone makes my N1 look like a G1.
I've had the Vibrant since it's debut. I have an Exchange server at work and noticed horrible lag in the default email app and even worse in Touchdown. Tried RyanZA's v1 lagfix and was blown away at the speed difference. Now I have the JI6 update and the lag was better, but with the OCLF v2.1 applied my phone is so fast, it's stupid. If you don't think you have lag - try a lagfix and you'll see.
fF
My wife and I both have the vibrant. Hers is slow, and mine is not. I have no idea what the difference is because, although hers is stock and nine is not, the lag was not a problem for me even when mine was stock.
It's because she is a woman and women don't know how to use phones. LOL. JK! (Sorta)
^^^ eff yourself
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Geez, calm down. Ever heard of a joke?
Where did you buy the phones though? Sometimes there are significant hard and software differences of each unit. For example, my first vibrant cant overclock, and it was hardware locked. This new one i have can do both flawlessly.
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i see a lot of people complaining about lag on the vibrant, my dad has one and i'm planning on getting one to replace my N1 as a normal useage phone (mostly because i'm stick of waiting 6 months for cyanogen updates now)
Anyway, i've noticed pretty much no lag on my dads vibrant for the last month or so. it sometimes takes a few seconds to load some of the default apps like dialer, contacts or messaging, but once your in there it's smooth as can be. Sims 3 is running amazingly smooth, and i can jump around avatar with pretty much no lag at all. and this is on a stock, unrooted, vibrant.
So i'm just wondering, so many people are complaining about the lag but i see none.
also downloading the update to my dads phone now so i'm curious to see how that will play into this.
*edit* oh and one thing i want to add, the 3d gallery, launcherpro, and any game is easilly running with a 2-3x faster framerate than my Cm6 N1. Honestly my dads phone makes my N1 look like a G1.
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IMHO, and I own both a Vibrant and a G2, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and I sold my N1 in the process. I kicked myself on a daily basis until I broke down and bought a G2.
The lack of a camera flash, non-working GPS, lag, 2.1 instead of 2.2, and a few other issues far outweighed the beauty of the screen for me. Don't get me wrong, the screen is F*#%ing AWESOME on the Vibrant. Its just that I found I couldn't live without a reliable gps, flash, (Adobe Flash is nice too), and the lag is annoying.
This is all my opinion of course, and to each his own. I recommend that if you get a vibrant you keep your N1 till you are sure you want the Vibrant. Personally I just sent my Vibrant back for the 3rd time, Including the original one that I bought, I will have my 5th Vibrant come tomorrow, I am ready to be rid of it but there is no resale value. Brand new in the box from Craigslist they sell for as little as $275. That is because of the BOGO and all the super deals on them right now.
Just my .02!
Didnt read anyother replies. But I'm just going to recommend going to the development section and just download a bionix rom. Its the fastest thing on this phone as far as roms imo. Voodoo makes this phone fly even faster but the stock 1.8 rom is still really smooth without it.
People who complain about lag should spend 2 hours reading various guides and getting firmiluar with that device in your hand.
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What do you need a flash for? Have you ever tried night mode with auto contrast on? Pretty awesome results unless you are trying to take pictures in pitch black.
And JI6 fixes both the lag and the GPS issues. If that isn't enough for you, bionix has done a wonderful job with his rom. Seriously, everything you are saying has either been fixed by JI6 or a dev.
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My phone was running Frankin Wiz with Voodoo Lag fix, My gps still sucked. The gps tracks jump all over the place no matter what I do.
I am talking strictly of the out of the box experience between the two devices.
My question to you as a consumer, not a power user or hacker, or moder or anything like that, just an average everyday consumer is this: Do you feel like after spending $500 (out of contract) on a "smart phone", that you should then have to spend several hours of your time learning how to install third party firmware and hacks on your device, just so that you can get the functionality that was advertised?
If you bought a brand new car from a dealership and found out that you had to replace the transmission and pay for custom engine modifications for it to run right, would you say to your friends, "Well the car has some problems but you can fix them by getting a new transmission and having the engine overhauled, I think you should buy one." HELL NO, you would say that the car is a POS and you would return it and get one that worked right and you would tell everyone.
Why are you defending a product that is flawed? I own the phone, I paid $500 for it. I think that it is not what I hoped it would be. I like to mod my phone, I shouldn't have to mod my phone. Does that make sense?
Just like I wouldn't recommend a flawed vehicle, I will not recommend a flawed phone. Simple as that.
Now let the arguing and flaming begin!
I see your point, but the point is that Samsung has addressed the issues. Cars are not perfect and have to have things corrected with them also. Ever heard of a recall or factory defect?
Seriously, JI6 is a Godsend. I was running that STOCK with no modifications for a few days and then decided to try the newest version of Bionix. It wasn't because anything was wrong, I just wanted something different. I just put that on my phone TODAY. Again, I was running STOCK JI6 and the phone was perfect. I didn't even install a lagfix. When I was on JFD, there was unbearable lag, JI6 none.
I tried Eugene's rom in the past and nothing against the rom, it wasn't for me.
I just think you need to do your research more. I can see you are frustrated but like I said, you could have a fully functional phone without any modifications with the newest update. Then if you choose to, and only if you chose to, you could install a different rom.
I am actually not frustrated at all. You see I have exchanged my Vibrant 3 times for Warranty. I will be trading it in on a MyTouch next month. I am so fed up with my samsung experience that I will probably never buy another phone from them. I may give the TAB a shot, but if it sux like the phone it will go back before the 14 days is up.
I have had my Samsung since July. I wanted to love the phone, but overall I am really disappointed. I am going back to HTC.
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IMHO, and I own both a Vibrant and a G2, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and I sold my N1 in the process. I kicked myself on a daily basis until I broke down and bought a G2.
The lack of a camera flash, non-working GPS, lag, 2.1 instead of 2.2, and a few other issues far outweighed the beauty of the screen for me. Don't get me wrong, the screen is F*#%ing AWESOME on the Vibrant. Its just that I found I couldn't live without a reliable gps, flash, (Adobe Flash is nice too), and the lag is annoying.
This is all my opinion of course, and to each his own. I recommend that if you get a vibrant you keep your N1 till you are sure you want the Vibrant. Personally I just sent my Vibrant back for the 3rd time, Including the original one that I bought, I will have my 5th Vibrant come tomorrow, I am ready to be rid of it but there is no resale value. Brand new in the box from Craigslist they sell for as little as $275. That is because of the BOGO and all the super deals on them right now.
Just my .02!
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Have you tried flashing a Bionix rom? No lag issues. Gps is fixed. Night and day difference compared to the stock rom.
If not, the G2 and Mytouch HD are very good alternatives.
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Could there be some "bad" batches running around that suffer from this lag? Sort of like the harware locked phones... my first Vibrant was HW locked and I exchanged it and ended up with a non-HW locked phone.
On both phones, neither had any level of perceptible lag. Is it that bad that it's affecting everyday useage? Or are people possibly being a bit too nit-picky because their app launched in .001 seconds instead of .00001? I've heard people say their Vibrant lags hard while using Touchdown. I use Touchdown many, many times during the day for my work. Never once has it lagged on me. I'm coming from a MT3G, which was the king of lag so I should know about that.
I go hiking, camping and off-highway driving a couple of times a month so I depend on GPS to be working because I like to chart my trips and set waypoints for future use. I understand the Vibrant has an issue with that right now, but I'm patient enough to wait for the fix. If not, I can just use my Garmin handheld that has been relegated to the drawer which is more of a correct TOOL to use for that sort of thing anyway. It's certainly NOT a deal-breaker for me. Maybe I'm more patient than others.
No flash on the camera? Well, I knew about that BEFORE I bought it, so I have nothing to complain about there. Why would someone complain that it doesn't have a flash and they bought it anyway? Seems absurd. Were you misled somehow? I don't think so. No valid argument there.
No 2.2 yet? Big deal. The phone works. Not like you're running 1.5 with no future plan in sight. If you were, then you'd really have something to cry about.
I think some people are making a bunch of hay over very little things that can be remedied.
Guess I just got "lucky" with my phone, or maybe I'm just not a pain in the ass. I'd hate to be known by TMO employees as "Mr. *****MoanAndComplain", even when they've given me 5 phones already.
The lag issue depends heavily upon how you use the phone. I found certain applications more likely to lag than others, write intensive applications.
I switched to using Google Finance in the web browser from the "official" Finance application due to the heavy lag incurred whenever the app did a background sync. The same for some other apps like Touiteur or Mint.com's app. With JI6 the lag has improved, but it's still not "there" yet for my tastes. I still see a slowdown when K9 is running a background sync... and don't get me started on how slow the phone becomes when using the Facebook application (again, I end up using touch.facebook.com instead since it's faster for me).
My preference is for a multi-tasking phone to actually multi-task, and I also prefer applications to locally cache as much as possible. Unlike most applications where a local cache should provide a desired speed up, the usage of RFS is just as likely to generate a slowdown, counterintuitive really.
I have plenty of apps running all while playing music, no lag. You don't need a lag fix with JI6. Just avoid hacking up your phone. They're not as reliable as the phone would be stock. I'm sure Bionix is making some nice headway but can I guarantee you that it has more bugs than stock and won't look like stock (something we should all desire and change at will).
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I am actually not frustrated at all. You see I have exchanged my Vibrant 3 times for Warranty. I will be trading it in on a MyTouch next month. I am so fed up with my samsung experience that I will probably never buy another phone from them. I may give the TAB a shot, but if it sux like the phone it will go back before the 14 days is up.
I have had my Samsung since July. I wanted to love the phone, but overall I am really disappointed. I am going back to HTC.
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Is it because G2 is the spiritual successor of G1? Because when I visited G2 forum, G2 has its share of problems like lose hinge, temp root (I am sure it will be fixed), and of course only 2G of internal space, etc. But those who are so quick to jump on Samsung, no offense but you are one of them I see posting, gave G2 a 9/10. I am just wonder what is the difference that you can tolerate the fault of one phone but not the other.
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Is it because G2 is the spiritual successor of G1? Because when I visited G2 forum, G2 has its share of problems like lose hinge, temp root (I am sure it will be fixed), and of course only 2G of internal space, etc. But those who are so quick to jump on Samsung, no offense but you are one of them I see posting, gave G2 a 9/10. I am just wonder what is the difference that you can tolerate the fault of one phone but not the other.
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My next phone will be iOS or WP7. I may just pay outright for an HD7 when released.
Half the issues are with Sammy, half are with Android. Basically the phone is at least usablr now, but I have founf Android to be boring and overhyped. /shrug
But Android phone support serms quite hit and miss and due to the android market and fragmentation manufacturers seem more intent on realeasing more devices than fewer, but higher quality devices with good support backing them.
If anything it has led me yo see the hidden advantages of Apple and Microsoft's approaches IRT their (new) mobile OSes.
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man i started one hell of a debate lol
Well i think my dads vibrant is hardware locked, i held the power button and volume down button and it just kept showing the vibrant boot screen and then rebooting back into it until i let go and then booted up normally.
As far as getting a vibrant for myself, i would wait for froyo. had froyo too long to go back to 2.1. But personally i've used a G2 and didn't like it at all. Didn't like the form and weight, and even though the speed was a lot better than my N1, to get it the way i would want it i would still have to change the rom and do tons of other stuff.
So looking at the vibrant, i'll lose my trackball and flash, i can live without the trackball, and after taking some nightmode pictures on the vibrant they come out easily 100 times better then any picture i took with the flash on the N1, though losing the flash as a flashlight does kinda suck.
But just looking at the vibrant for me it's the best thing, i'd probably just root it and never change the rom since i actually like a lot of the touchwiz changes. Though i would install launcherpro and probably switch out for the stock messaging app.
And to test the lag some more on my dads phone with the new update, i had solitaire, 3d gallery, browser (with 6 windows), maps, and on the phone and i got no lag switching in and out of all the apps.
I'm on Cappy #3. And now my speaker doesn't work.
I'm going to argue a lemon and see if ATT can't let me have a different phone.
I was looking at the Atrix but- has anyone used both the Captivate and Atrix? Why would I chose the Atrix? I'm using Serendipity ROM, it's great, fast...
I don't really use GPS much (mainly because it sucks- but also because I just don't use it). So overall I'm happy, I'm just tired of the Captivate hardware issues.
What scares me about the Atrix is the locked bootloader. If it works out of the box, great, but you sure do limit support with a locked bootloader. But maybe Motorola actually updates it and there's not a need for custom ROMs?
My other options, were perhaps waiting for the SGS II (or something else). It's still Samsung, but I have a feeling, just like the Captivate, the draw of the specs and beautiful screen might be too hard to resist.
June iPhone 5 launch isn't too far away, either. But the problem with both of these, is I don't know if ATT will let me get a brand new-just-released device, you know?
I also considered getting the iPhone 4 and just living with the Apple nonsense world until this summer- and selling it (iPhone fanboys pay crazy money for those devices, I could flip it easily).
But even with the retina display, I don't know if I could live with an LCD display. ???????
Ideas?
I've got the vibrant, the captivate and just picked up the atrix last week.
Only thing that really bothers me is the screen, the colours are so much less vibrant, its not a deal killer but i don't like the washed out look.
the camera app on the atrix is kinda odd too, i prefer the galaxy one, but you get used to it, its slow to focus and no spot focus.
i miss the quiet mode alarm clock of the captivate too. i liked being able to access the wifi off on and by dragging down at the top, the motoblur is initially annoying.
took me a little while to get used to the power button placement, i dig the fingerprint reader. the usb connection is in an annoying location (off to the side) and at least you get and hdmi cable with it.
its a lot more fluid speedwise, dont get the lag i was used to with the galaxy.
Screen vs. Screen, captivate kills it. The motion blur is so noticeable on the atrix its almost a slap in the face.
The screens between the captivate and atrix are completely different and appeal to different people. Yes the captivate is much more vivid and bright but the atrix's qHD display is much more accurate and crisp and the graphics when gaming blow the captivate out of the water imo.
The NVIDIA processor and gpu make a big difference in screen quality and quicker rendering of images and videos.
I have both a captivate and atrix but I use my atrix as my daily phone due to the battery life and stable gps.
Don't get me wrong though i love being able to mod my captivate which is a big reason why I have not sold it yet.
If you have the option to grab the atrix, take it, it will be a major upgrade.
Atrix wins hands down. While the screen is more vibrant on the cappy, i think the quality is better on the Atrix. Even though the first atrix i got had some sort of hardware issue, i was just able to return it and have it work. WIth the cappy i was stuck with a terrible GPS no matter how many times i'd return it. The camera on the captivate seems to be much better tho unless you're dealing with night shots or out door shots in the bright sun.
While i miss the community of the captivate and all the possibilities of Roms, i'm quite content with my atrix knowing with almost certainty that i'll get gingerbread and i won't have to wait almost a year for it.
The screen really isn't good on the Atrix; I compared tthe Captivate, Nexus 1 , and Atrix aide by side and ended up taking the Atrix back and selling the Captivate.
If you want a higher resolution, just go and get a LCD density app off the market.
As for speed, the Atrix really isn't that much faster. Foe the most part, all apps aside from games aren't really CPU heavy, it's the allocation of apps all running at once that slows people down. If you properly manage your running apps then you shouldn't see much of a seed difference. (My N1 and Atrix are nearly identical).
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TexUs said:
I'm on Cappy #3. And now my speaker doesn't work.
I'm going to argue a lemon and see if ATT can't let me have a different phone.
I was looking at the Atrix but- has anyone used both the Captivate and Atrix? Why would I chose the Atrix? I'm using Serendipity ROM, it's great, fast...
I don't really use GPS much (mainly because it sucks- but also because I just don't use it). So overall I'm happy, I'm just tired of the Captivate hardware issues.
What scares me about the Atrix is the locked bootloader. If it works out of the box, great, but you sure do limit support with a locked bootloader. But maybe Motorola actually updates it and there's not a need for custom ROMs?
My other options, were perhaps waiting for the SGS II (or something else). It's still Samsung, but I have a feeling, just like the Captivate, the draw of the specs and beautiful screen might be too hard to resist.
June iPhone 5 launch isn't too far away, either. But the problem with both of these, is I don't know if ATT will let me get a brand new-just-released device, you know?
I also considered getting the iPhone 4 and just living with the Apple nonsense world until this summer- and selling it (iPhone fanboys pay crazy money for those devices, I could flip it easily).
But even with the retina display, I don't know if I could live with an LCD display. ???????
Ideas?
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You won't see the iPhone 5 in June lol.
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After two weeks of experience with the atrix and a few months with the captivate I can say this:
The atrix has a better build quality,awesome fingerprint scanner (no one can use my phone/log into my bank account but me and I'm too lazy to type a code or dawing shapes everytime I want to use it) ,amazing GPS reception (works even indoors!, sometimes I get 1meter accuracy!) a better battery and a better performance (twice the ram the cappy has (great for multitasking and battery juice), dual core cpu (less noticeable at this time), etc)
The Captivate has amazing screen colors but lower res (it took me a few days to get used to the atrix, I sure would give up on qhd for led) More games support it at this time,thicker&lighter,neat camera (way better than the atrix, at least at day light) looks better (from my point of view) and much more customizable (due to unlocked bootloader - endless roms, kernels, etc)
Horrible GPS reception and annoying build quality (I heard "clicks" when texting) made me dump the cappy and buying the atrix.
If you don't use GPS much (I use it all the time) and you don't care about
build quality (acceptable on the atrix but far from being htc) you can
stick with your GalaxyS, overall, it is a pretty good phone.
Bottom line is, from my point of view, is that the atrix is for more mature and professional usage/business, and the GalaxyS is better for teens/early 20's (better multimedia capabilities) - Since I just turned 26 I changed it
Both phones have terrible laggy home screens so I didn't consider using touchwiz nor motoblur and I didn't even took it as a feature (gde with
odestrian/launcherpro will make your handset happy)
Me, after having I7500 and Captivate, I'm done with Samsung, at least for now, looks like I'm gonna stick with my atrix for at least two years (but who knows..)
I prefer to the qHD resolution. Color on Atrix is not that bad it is acceptable. I also have a Samsung Wave with Super Amoled and i can still live with Atrix's screen. It is not that biggie as many people are telling. First time i looked at Samsung Wave's screen i fell in love with it and bought it. Then i showed it to friends and they were impressed and jealous. But now i even forget i have a Super Amoled to watch photos and play games. Many people look at my Wave dont show their impress even though they have never used any better than an LCD phone.
So, with the Captivate, an unlocked bootloader means we can custom ROM it and strip the crappy UI out and use whatever we want (and also do things like Voodoo).
That does not exist on the Atrix. That's part of my worry??? Are you content with just using Launcher Pro?
Let me ask this, I'd definitely consider the iPhone 4's to be the best looking LCD out there right now in a phone, how does the Atrix compare to it?
Design Gears dumped the Atrix, eh? That isn't too reassuring, lol.
I took my atrix back. Couldn't stand the screen, horrible viewing angles horrible color and the phone overall imo was junk. I had too many freezups and had to do 3 master resets on it in a matter of 2 weeks. 1 of those weeks it sat in its box on the fridge.
I would wait for something else to come along. It won't be much longer before new phones hit the market. I would stay away from iphone also unless if you don't mind eating spaghetti every day.
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So, with the Captivate, an unlocked bootloader means we can custom ROM it and strip the crappy UI out and use whatever we want (and also do things like Voodoo).
That does not exist on the Atrix. That's part of my worry??? Are you content with just using Launcher Pro?
Let me ask this, I'd definitely consider the iPhone 4's to be the best looking LCD out there right now in a phone, how does the Atrix compare to it?
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I came from a Nexus One where it seemed like I flashed a new ROM every week. I now have an Atrix and have been very happy with it. Locked bootloader... doesn't bother me. Everything I have wanted to do with it have been possible with root access and Launcher Pro Plus. IMHO, the screen is fantastic (both resolution and colors) (it took a few day of getting used to the colors), motoblur does not slow the phone down (from a skinning standpoint, it's ugly but I have fixed that with custom icons/widgets (screenshot), and I will be keeping this phone for a while now.
edit: oh, and the phone is crazy fast!
Hi,
I'm considering upgrading my captivate to atrix and I wanted to know if there are any known issues?
I'll explain what I mean:
My first android phone was Xperia X10. Little did I know, the phone was awesome overall but the battery barely lasted a day and all the sony phones had locked bootloaders which means almost no customization in ROMs and pretty bad performance and battery life.
After that I moved to my Capty.
With all the benefits of the remarkable amoled screen, the capty has some severe GPS issues.
By severe I mean not working at all.
Not only that but I switched about 11 or so ROMs until I found one that's mostly functioning. (still without GPS).
All these unsatisfying experiences made me even consider going back to iProducts... And I would NEVER do that again.
What I want to know is not how remarkable Atrix is, trust me I've read enough praises.
I need you to tell me what do you dislike about the phone. Whether it's the slow updates from moto, the build quality, signal quality, GPS, annoying browser, or any other thing that doesn't work or displeases you in any way.
Sorry for this wall of text, I wouldn't want another disappointment.
Thank you for your patience.
To skip what I love about it and move straight to what I do not:
- I'm not a huge fan of the Pentile display... though if you're coming from a Captivate then that's not a downgrade.
- Motorola are definitely slow with software updates (Gingerbread has not even landed in Europe yet). Though of course Cyanogenmod is nearly complete so who really cares?
- I used to have a Galaxy S and I know they hardware accelerated the web browser. I do miss that (assuming Sammy did the same with the Captivate). Having said that, I use Opera these days and that's pretty smooth anyway. And of course, when we get ICS they should all get hardware acceleration.
- The battery life is OK, but I just think it should be better with the 1930mAh battery.
- Why did they make the power button so awkward to use?!
The hardware seems pretty bullet proof to me - I'm not aware of anything that's actually broken like the Galaxy S line of GPS woes. When it's coupled with a completely stable Cyanogenmod build we should be good to go.
I get random reboots, failed to initiate camera, failed to initiate fingerprint scanner, and sometimes the display takes a minute to turn on, even though I can hear the sound of the fp scanner unlocking the display. This is usually a sign that the phone is going to reboot itself soon.
I consider motoblur to be a problem.
With the phone itself, none for me (power user) or my father (casual). Had them since shortly after public release.
Definitely have not experienced any of the above posters issues. If you are on a 100% stock system then your phone needs to be sent in. If its custom, reconsider your setup. A stock atrix should not have those issues.
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a huge upgrade from the Captivate.
excellent GPS, brighter screen, no burn ins.
Only problem I have with it is that the screen at random times can be too sensitive to touch and the fact that you cant hold it down for longer than 15 seconds
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a huge upgrade from the Captivate.
excellent GPS, brighter screen, no burn ins.
Only problem I have with it is that the screen at random times can be too sensitive to touch and the fact that you cant hold it down for longer than 15 seconds
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Lol. what's the deal with the 15 second rule?
And so far it sounds quite like the thing I'm looking for.
One more question though. I really want the laptop dock, do custom ROMs work with it? How does it work in general?
15 second rule is Motorola's aytempt fo prevent a water drop causing touch screen failure.
Webtop works with most cuatom ROMs just not CM.
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Well, it seems like I'll be joining the atrix club pretty soon
best darn phone i've had
I was about to get an S2 but the xda developers never cease to make this one heck of a phone. My phone was solid from day one and so make sure that your phone is solid hardware wise while it's still under warranty. The only bad experiences I've come accross were from devices with hardware issues. With all of the custom roms and development on this phone i think this phone will be a worthy contender for a while. I gotta say that although the recent motorola gingerbread update is a huge improvement, this device is amazing with a custom rom. There are roms out there for every need so read and review carefully. I think the main differences in regards to what you will want to customize the phone with will hinge on the camera/camcorder
function and how much Blur functionality you need to have.
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I get random reboots, failed to initiate camera, failed to initiate fingerprint scanner, and sometimes the display takes a minute to turn on, even though I can hear the sound of the fp scanner unlocking the display. This is usually a sign that the phone is going to reboot itself soon.
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My fp scanner doesn't make any sounds, it vibrates couple times and it's pretty responsive. I got the phone since day one and don't have any of those problems.
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My fp scanner doesn't make any sounds, it vibrates couple times and it's pretty responsive. I got the phone since day one and don't have any of those problems.
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I mean the unlocking sound. That click that occurs when you successfully unlock the phone. I get the sound, but the display stays off.
The call quality could be a little better. I get a lot of huhs and whats on the other side of the phone.
Having came from a captivate I have to say my only real issue with this phone is MOTOBLUR. I still have nightmares about it from when I was using the BACKFLIP (I love how moto puts their products in all caps). Its no where as near as bad on the ATRIX though. Custom launchers took away my wowes. Having the power/unlock button in the middle and slightly inlaid at the top of the phone was a big adjustment but unlocking my phone with a swipe of my finger stopped me from thinking about it too much. I've had a couple random reboots but they all seem to come from me overheating the phone. (My ATRIX is good about being on the charger and finding it's way under clothes or a blanket so this seams to be more me messing up rather then the phone). Im coming up on my one month ann. Of having the ATRIX and not once have I felt the need to go back to my captivate
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atrix is quite a decent phone overall, but do have a few flaws
its kinda heavy, holding atrix in one hand and sg2 on the other, atrix feels like a brick...
battery dont last as long as suggested, i came from zte blade, used to last me a day and a half, but atrix last me just a day even with it 1930mah battery. (and alarm manager keeping the phone awake seems to be a common problem)
but other than that, its a pretty good phone, it will be even better when the fingerprint scanner is compatible with cm7
Well I wasn't very happy from day 1 but it's a good phone. Now after few months I have to send for repairs as the digitizer is f**** up. If I could go back in time I wouldn't go for the atrix. I guess I love sense ui too much and asop or blur is too ugly for me.
I've had the phone for almost a week now. It's going to be "keep" instead of "return" for me, but just barely. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S i9000 that was running on Darky's ROM Extreme Edition.
What I don't like:
1. The screen. Call me spoiled by the blacks and brightness of the SAMOLED of Samsung.
2. For a Dual Core phone, it sure is sluggish. Well at least compared to the SGS2. I can't believe that it's almost running, if not slower, than my Galaxy S.
3. Still on 2.2.2 (at least in the UK). We're already talking about Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) and there's still no 2.3.5 (even 2.3.4!) in sight.
4. Like the SGS, it won't play eAAC+ encoded music (you know, the 64kbps encoded stuff that sound like they're 160kbps MP3's, it was so great).
5. Screen sensitivity. Not really as fluid as the SGS. I think this may be down to me just used to the Samsung timing on the screen.
What I like about it:
1. The screen. Love the resolution! It makes a difference, and I think this was one of its saving grace for me keeping the phone.
2. Battery life. Significantly better than the SGS, and this is with all my 12 email accounts on PUSH and everything.
3. The build! I like its slightly heavy build. I won't buy a phone without Gorilla Glass ever again. My previous SGS was thrown so many times (at full force) by my kid and it still rocks! My wife has it now.
4. Fingerprint scanner. Not perfect, but why can't all phone have this?! It is just so logical.
5. The speaker on this phone is nice, I can listen to rock music and hear a lot more things than my SGS.
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Please Motorola, give us 2.3.4/2.3.5 already! Or at least dangle a carrot in front of us (tell us when!).
facetubespam said:
a huge upgrade from the Captivate.
excellent GPS, brighter screen, no burn ins.
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Yeah, it's true. I just additionally emphasise not only the GPS but also all other radio functions such as gsm signal, wifi, bluetooth work excellent. My AT&T Atrix is the best phone which has nearly all-sided pros. I've been used.
There is only one weak-point (though this depends on the individual view of diffetent user) is the pentile screen technology. Such a thing is well known as an advanced technology which offers the high brightness and the high contrast of the screen with noticeable power save. But in other side, it includes the disavantage that is also well known as an issue, it's the "pixel-grains" phenomenon when you look closely and deeply on some small icon eg. clock, signal bars icon... But with many people, this issue is acceptable.
Only problem I have with it is that the screen at random times can be too sensitive to touch and the fact that you cant hold it down for longer than 15 seconds
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I've never face this problem on both stock and custom roms, for example HomeBase, Alien, CM7, the great roms I've had a long time using
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The.Opethian said:
I've had the phone for almost a week now. It's going to be "keep" instead of "return" for me, but just barely. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S i9000 that was running on Darky's ROM Extreme Edition.
What I don't like:
1. The screen. Call me spoiled by the blacks and brightness of the SAMOLED of Samsung.
2. For a Dual Core phone, it sure is sluggish. Well at least compared to the SGS2. I can't believe that it's almost running, if not slower, than my Galaxy S.
3. Still on 2.2.2 (at least in the UK). We're already talking about Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) and there's still no 2.3.5 (even 2.3.4!) in sight.
4. Like the SGS, it won't play eAAC+ encoded music (you know, the 64kbps encoded stuff that sound like they're 160kbps MP3's, it was so great).
5. Screen sensitivity. Not really as fluid as the SGS. I think this may be down to me just used to the Samsung timing on the screen.
What I like about it:
1. The screen. Love the resolution! It makes a difference, and I think this was one of its saving grace for me keeping the phone.
2. Battery life. Significantly better than the SGS, and this is with all my 12 email accounts on PUSH and everything.
3. The build! I like its slightly heavy build. I won't buy a phone without Gorilla Glass ever again. My previous SGS was thrown so many times (at full force) by my kid and it still rocks! My wife has it now.
4. Fingerprint scanner. Not perfect, but why can't all phone have this?! It is just so logical.
5. The speaker on this phone is nice, I can listen to rock music and hear a lot more things than my SGS.
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Please Motorola, give us 2.3.4/2.3.5 already! Or at least dangle a carrot in front of us (tell us when!).
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Points 2, 3, 5 on your dislike section easily fixed with custom ROM.....
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wintermute000 said:
Points 2, 3, 5 on your dislike section easily fixed with custom ROM.....
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After I have rully charged my phone, I will endeavour to get the latest CM7 on it sir. A pity about the fingerprint scanner, but not a dealbreaker for me.
Also, found out that because this is running a Tegra 2 processor, it's very picky with media files. Can't seem to play a lot of the MP4/MKV files I use to play easily with the SGS.
Yes, I would say the biggest problem with the Atrix is movie codec support. Coming from a Captivate myself I envisioned downloading a nice 720p movie, tossing it on the phone and playing it on my bigscreen. Not so. Hardware accelerated codecs are awful, it'll basically playback SD DIVX and H.264 everything else requires transcoding. Personally I think this is why Android tablets lag so far behind the iPad, what use is a consumption device if you can't consume media?
I would recommend any Motorola with the OMAP dual core and non pentile display such as the Bionic or Atrix 2.