Taking it back - Epic 4G General

so i have an evo, went to the sprint store last thursday to get an epic 4g, for some reason they said i had an upgrade (my sprint contract started in june?), so i take the epic home and i go through the rounds of adding all my favorite apps and what not and here are the pros and cons coming from an evo user.
PROS:
The screen is god, it the best thing about this phone.
the epics camera takes better low light photos than my evo.
the 3d games run and look way better on the epic.
some touchwiz functions are very convenient
CONS:
LAGGGGGG, sometimes its bad sometimes its not, drop down notification bar lags, THE CAMERA when moving it to another shot the image on the screen lagsss, not every time but enough to be annoying.
The capacitive buttons....geez dont even get me started on those...
and the QWERTY keyboard.. man i love a good physical keyboard..but the buttons are flat and i guess my fingers are to fat so i have to be super super careful when im typing..or ill hit two buttons at onces...(last physical kb i had was a touch pro)
that is pretty much it, UI lag..and unresponsive buttons... the plastic quality really wasn't that bad i could live with that, but my evo (unrooted) performs flawlessly, i mean the screen may seem washed out next to the epic but it hardly ever lags...camera is great (most of the time) and sense UI (with launcher pro on top) works great, so i guess ill be taking mine back tomorrow, might look into the galaxy tab when it comes out or a windows mobile 7 phone this fall.

Don't really understand the lag as mine has none.
Far and away faster than my previous EVO.

I was under the impression the tmobile Vibrant experiences lag but the Sprint Epic does not. hmm. Ill figure it out when I get mine tomorrow.

Yeah I also had an upgrade for all three lines after starting a new contract in June... I wasn't complaining

Lol. The Epic doesn't lag. Doesn't slow down. It's faster on 2.1 than the EVO is on 2.2. If my Epic had those issues, I would take it back for a replacement... because something is faulty.

yall are crazy
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this guy is crazy, do not listen to him.
there is absolutely no lag.

jfenton57 said:
Don't really understand the lag as mine has none.
Far and away faster than my previous EVO.
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same here no lagggggggss over here

I went from an Evo to a Vibrant after my Evo screen started falling off. It's only a matter of time before the Galaxy phones start lagging. It gets worse over time. I'm not sure if it's log files getting full or just the file system not optimized. Make sure you're clearing your text messages too. A lot of texts will cripple the phone after a while.
Overall the phone can be pretty snappy but there are moments where it sits for 5 - 10 seconds while you wait for something to open. Sometimes it shows a black screen while you're waiting.
I can't speak for the Epic 4G but i'm not sure how different it could be from other galaxy s models.

coolguy949 said:
I went from an Evo to a Vibrant after my Evo screen started falling off. It's only a matter of time before the Galaxy phones start lagging. It gets worse over time. I'm not sure if it's log files getting full or just the file system not optimized. Make sure you're clearing your text messages too. A lot of texts will cripple the phone after a while.
Overall the phone can be pretty snappy but there are moments where it sits for 5 - 10 seconds while you wait for something to open. Sometimes it shows a black screen while you're waiting.
I can't speak for the Epic 4G but i'm not sure how different it could be from other galaxy s models.
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It is very different. the other galaxy s phones suffer from the type of file system they use due to large internal memory. there is a "lag fix" for the vibrant and captivate that solves the issue (and boosts quadrant scores to 2000+ due to how quadrant handles the i/o portion of its benchmark).
Samsung preloaded the Epic with their own fix. Everything is snappy for me and I've yet to encounter any stuttering\lag. The phone boots up in about 20-30 seconds. Apps open very fast, and close just as fast. The only slowness I've seen is when using swype on a very busy web page - the evo is also affected by this though.

lol i was just posting my experience with the device, maybe mine was faulty, who knows, im happy with my evo for now, i do admit that the apps did download and open up faster on the epic.

I would give it another try. The device us really good. I have experienced a few slow downs but when 2.2 comes out, those issues will be fixed.
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hydralisk said:
Lol. The Epic doesn't lag. Doesn't slow down. It's faster on 2.1 than the EVO is on 2.2. If my Epic had those issues, I would take it back for a replacement... because something is faulty.
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What did people think this phone be? Did they think when the pick up the phone the sky would open and angles would sing. It's a phone. Didn't they do any research before they bought the phone? Are maybe they just have bad phones? I don't know.

I actually switched from a international galaxy s, because of the speed of the epic, it's truly the fastest phone I've used, there's no lag apps open/close immediately and I have 50 apps installed on mine , if you want even faster performance use Launcher Pro. even with the Touchwiz launcher it's still fast, but with launcher Pro this phone just screams.
So far the only explanation for this is the internal memory and the touchwiz itself are different compared with other galaxy s phones, the file system isn't really affecting these phones.

Related

Time for a new phone.

Well my time has come for a new phone, right now i am on the mt3g. I am debating between the and the nexus one, but I am leaning towards the vibrant. So, how have you liked the vibrant? and for anyone out there that has a n1 and the vibrant, which do you like better?
Thanks for your feedback.
I struggled with making a decision but it comes down to the vibrant has a 16g of storage, plus covered under a less hassle warranty, and i love it and the battery life so far. it ran all night under wifi with virtually no battery drain, porn comes up super quick.
I have both. The N1 is having it's plug pulled... the Vibrant expects 10M sold and is incredibly fast and rooted.
Pretty easy choice! You will love it....
Thanks guys.
That's what is turning me off from the N1, is you have to jump through hoops to get it. the vibrant has awesome specs, and i can have it within minutes. anything you dont like about the phone? how does it feel? i guess i need to run to tmo today and play around with it, but i know if i do i will come home with a new toy.....that's not necessarily a bad thing...
I don't like the GPS. Takes forever to lock and is usually around 10 meters (35 feet) precision.
My G1 is always around 4 meters precision.
That's weird my gps works perfectly
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I used the GPS last night to show my speed while driving last night.. it locked on quick and the Speed display was spot on.... no complaints here.
With Android GPS I noticed is if you do a "cold start" (GPS is turned of and you turn it on) it takes a little longer. If you do a "warm start" (GPS is turned on but idle) it picks up a lot faster.
Definitely go with the Vibrant. Watch this video to see why:
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-samsung-captivate-benchmarks-and-graphicsgaming-test
Keep in mind that the Captivate is the same Galaxy S hardware as the Vibrant, just for AT&T.
d_bot said:
Thanks guys.
That's what is turning me off from the N1, is you have to jump through hoops to get it. the vibrant has awesome specs, and i can have it within minutes. anything you dont like about the phone? how does it feel? i guess i need to run to tmo today and play around with it, but i know if i do i will come home with a new toy.....that's not necessarily a bad thing...
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Sold my Anna for this. You can't imagine how much lighter this thing is, how screen is better and bigger. I can't believe I am saying this.... I like touch wiz! Phone is really fast, awesome.
What I don't like? Like all phones these days, bloat! You can remove it though, and custom roms should get rid of it. Also, no camera flash, bleh.
thanks for the feed back guys. I went to tmo the other day, played around with the phone........I was amazed at how light and awesomely fast it is. Can't wait to get it.
One thing i noticed though is there was a little lag coming from a program back to home, my mytouch3g with cm5 was much faster, obviously that's not a fair comparison, and who knows what they had installed and running on the store demo phone, but I'm wondering if any of you have noticed any kind of lag back to the home screen?
As I'm sure you already have looked through the vibrant forums, make sure to go through the "tips and tricks"sticky. Its well put together and will address must if not all your questions and concerns.
As far as my personal experience I would give this phone a 90% approval rating. Using old android tricks to save battery and being patient has brought me to really appreciate the phone. Of course there are things that need to be addressed but no one short of the devs and/or froyo will have a fix, if they even have a fix.
Catchin' the VIBE on the XDApp
Sawawa said:
Definitely go with the Vibrant. Watch this video to see why:
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-samsung-captivate-benchmarks-and-graphicsgaming-test
Keep in mind that the Captivate is the same Galaxy S hardware as the Vibrant, just for AT&T.
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+1, go with the Vibrant.
I had an N1...it's cool and all but not as cool as the Vibrant. To me it was a no brainer.
That video was pretty awesome...the Galaxy S makes the others look like atari when it comes to gaming. Well and I'm sure in other areas too...screen etc...as you can see in the video.
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thanks for the feed back guys. I went to tmo the other day, played around with the phone........I was amazed at how light and awesomely fast it is. Can't wait to get it.
One thing i noticed though is there was a little lag coming from a program back to home, my mytouch3g with cm5 was much faster, obviously that's not a fair comparison, and who knows what they had installed and running on the store demo phone, but I'm wondering if any of you have noticed any kind of lag back to the home screen?
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No lag here.
I'm very curious as to what people are talking about when it comes to lag. I've owned many smart phones and trust me I know what lag is. iPhone anyone? Lag central...
I have had NO lag whatsoever on my phone. You press a button and it pops up. Boom. Just like that.
So when people are referring to lag on the Vibrant, it's either they got a F#$%ed up lemon or too much porn...jk...you get the point. What the H3ll are they putting on the phone that's causing this "lag?" I don't get it...
Also, keep in mind that the demo Vibrant phones in the store have that demo video / advertising stuff on there...it could be the reason for what you experienced.
The wife got me the vibrant for my bday yesterday, I get it today! words cannot describe how excited i am! as we speak (12:00 mst) it sits in the ups box on my front porch. I am just waiting for lunch time (12:30 mst) to roll around so i can mozy on home and pick up my new toy!
double WOOT!!
^ haha, awesome man. I do encourage you to browse the sticky if you have not already. Hope it helps and let us know your impressions, or if you have questions not addressed in the sticky, post them here or PM me.
............My jaw is still on the floor, I LOVE this phone its amazing. Touch wiz isn't as bad, IMO, as i thought it was going to be. Absolutely no lag going back to home like i experienced with the store demo.
Next step is getting it rooted to remove some of this samsung/tmo bloatware.
Overall it is very light, very thin, perfect sized screen, VERY fast....I am happy with my purchase.

[Q] When will we see Froyo??? Not sure I can continue with the Epic without it...

I've had a an EVO since day one & absolutely loved the phone, but being the phone junkie I am, I had to grab an Epic as well & not so sure about my decision. I mean I can always fall back to the EVO, but there are a lot of nice benefits of the Epic...
- The screen is absolutely gorgeous(thats a given)
- I'm 50/50 on the physical keyboard & actually find I use Swype just as much
- The Hummingbird destroys the Snapdragon
But, battery life is even worse than on the EVO sadly. I mean I even have my home screen pretty much all black, as that supposedly uses zero power & can barely make it through an 8 hour work day with light use. Also, it just feels cheap compared to the EVO. I mean if I drop this thing once, I'm sure it's toast.
If I could see some Froyo on this thing that might give me more incentive to continue using it vs. the EVO!
My question, when is Froyo going to drop?
According to samsung uk it is end of september. Not sure if it includes epic, but it does say all networks so im assuming they mean all, not just UK networks.
source: http://twitter.com/samsungukmobile/status/19827474965
if you dont like the phone for the above reasons now. Froyo is not going to change it.
Froyo and subsequent updates may change gps, and 3g data usage, and increase speed. But there wont be drastic increases in battery life. It will feel the same in your hand.
Basically go back to the Evo.
I on the other hand like the phone a whole, and overall way happier with this then the evo. I'd like froyo, but it aint keeping me up at night.
I've only had the Epic for 5 days now, so I am still going to give it some more time. It's my hope that with a nice Innocase from Seidio it'll feel more solid & maybe what I'm looking for is not just Froyo, but more backing from the community with lots more selection on ROMs.
It seems like there doesnt seem to be much interest from members on creating custom ROMs, at least anywhere near the level of the EVO. I mean, I think there's literally one person working on a ROM currently that I am aware of...
I doubt that we will get as much roms as evo, however I don't think we will be left in the dust either. As for why there is only one rom dev rite now is because we don't have a way to flash n restore roms yet. Once we get that I bet development will boom.
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i think thats whats going to send me back to the evo..custom roms, kernels, sense. i wish htc had a super amoled, humming processor, 30 fps 720p, 60 fps screen, and an awesome keyboard :/..for sprint
Better than half of the evo roms are to remove sense and its framework. Fortunately touchwiz is very easy to remove but in the end that means we have less need of roms.
What do people ask for on the evo forums?
Aosp dialer. Got it
Remove rosie. Never had it
Sense widgets. Launcher pro plus
Fix the input lag. Don't have it
Fix the fps. No issue here.
Swype apk. Preinstalled.
Why is scrolling laggy? No issue on the epic.
The epic needs a radio update (the evo had 3) to help with reception and battery, a gps firmware upgrade and a fix for the file attaching lag on 3g.
Other than that its a pretty solid device.
The evo has far more that needed fixing and even on froyo still doesn't feel as fast as the epic on 2.1. The evo needs custom roms because the shipping version ****ing sucks.
We will get roms and kernels. There are already two kernels out and roms will come once the recovery is fixed.
While I love my Epic, I still haven't fallen IN LOVE with it like I did with my Nexus.
But there isn't any other phone on the market that appeals to me, and definitely nothing else on Sprint that I'd choose over the Epic.
I'm not one of the people who thinks *froyo will fix ALL PROBLEMS* but I AM hoping 2.2 comes out by the end of September and hopefully some gps and system tweaks.
We can only hope.
Aridon said:
Better than half of the evo roms are to remove sense and its framework. Fortunately touchwiz is very easy to remove but in the end that means we have less need of roms.
What do people ask for on the evo forums?
Aosp dialer. Got it
Remove rosie. Never had it
Sense widgets. Launcher pro plus
Fix the input lag. Don't have it
Fix the fps. No issue here.
Swype apk. Preinstalled.
Why is scrolling laggy? No issue on the epic.
The epic needs a radio update (the evo had 3) to help with reception and battery, a gps firmware upgrade and a fix for the file attaching lag on 3g.
Other than that its a pretty solid device.
The evo has far more that needed fixing and even on froyo still doesn't feel as fast as the epic on 2.1. The evo needs custom roms because the shipping version ****ing sucks.
We will get roms and kernels. There are already two kernels out and roms will come once the recovery is fixed.
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This ^^ a million times over. he pretty much hit the nail on the head.
The Evo NEEDED custom roms. Like whoa. There were SO many issues with it. I rooted that beast ASAP to get that phone up to speed. I haven't rooted my Epic yet. I have no need to. If you don't like touchwiz, load up Launcher Pro. It will be faster than Launcher Pro on the EVO with 2.2 (I know, because I have an EVO with Cm6 sitting right next to me).
The Epic will have rom support, dont you worry. And we will get 2.2 eventually.... but I'm in no hurry. A small fix for the GPS would suit me just fine. Maybe a radio update. Lord knows the EVO had enough radio updates and OTA updates to get it where it is now.
I'm getting great battery life. Try juice defender, got 20 hours before I needed a charge. I made 3 calls, some texts, light web use, and listened to pandora on my way to and from class.
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Hi,
I got mine Epic on Sept.2nd and so far I have noticed that the battery life depends on what you do.
On the days when I was busy with my regular staff and did not pay attention to my phone more then checking email, few text msgs, some web surfing, listening music and light game play (while waiting in the restaurant) it (battery) lasted for 12 hrs from full charge.
On the day when I was in the office and turned 4G on (yeh, they turned in on in the Rhode Island!) battery lasted less then 4 hrs and kept loosing juice even when I plugged it into the USB charger. All I have say to that is WTF!
Using Wi-Fi and playng games also cause extended battery use.
Have to note that the sales person, who sold me the phone, installed Automatic Task Killer application for me which seems to be doing it's job
I came from the iPhone after three years (I had the original, the 3G, and the 3GS). I had the EVO for a week to try it out, and then returned it and waited all summer for the Epic.
I really like it, but I kind of wish Sprint had a Galaxy S device that was more a clone of the... Galaxy S.
The iPhone was sleek and solid, and I used it with a case that made it a bit bulkier and heavier. Which was fine. But I don't really see the urgent need for keyboards on app phones nowadays. I was very fast and efficient typing on my iPhone (the text prediction on that keyboard is awesome, and I'm surprised to find that it's way better than the Android software keyboards I've tried). I'm about as fast, if not faster, with Swype, and I've only been using it less than a week. It's not really the bulkiness of the keyboard that bothers me, it's the lack of solidness it gives the phone.
When I click the button to lock or unlock it, the sliding mechanism separates a bit. It's very annoying and lacks that solid feel that the iPhone or EVO had. But other than that, it's a great phone. It's fast, got a great display, the battery life is much better than the EVO's, and it's light. I just wish it had more of a "solid" feel.
(I thought about switching to the EVO, but the lackluster graphics chip, the artificial capping of graphics output to 30fps, only decent performance out of the processor, and crappy battery life are non-starters.)
what is it about froyo that makes you want to ditch the epic?
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what is it about froyo that makes you want to ditch the epic?
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Haven't you heard? When you turn on your phone with Froyo installed Rainbows and Unicorns fly out of the screen.
stud_muffler said:
Hi,
I got mine Epic on Sept.2nd and so far I have noticed that the battery life depends on what you do.
On the days when I was busy with my regular staff and did not pay attention to my phone more then checking email, few text msgs, some web surfing, listening music and light game play (while waiting in the restaurant) it (battery) lasted for 12 hrs from full charge.
On the day when I was in the office and turned 4G on (yeh, they turned in on in the Rhode Island!) battery lasted less then 4 hrs and kept loosing juice even when I plugged it into the USB charger. All I have say to that is WTF!
Using Wi-Fi and playng games also cause extended battery use.
Have to note that the sales person, who sold me the phone, installed Automatic Task Killer application for me which seems to be doing it's job
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Ok well first of all, when you aren't using 4G, turn it off to save battery. Having WiFi, GPS, 4G and Bluetooth running when all you need is GPS in a non-4G area is extremely stupid. Moral of the story is when you aren't using it, TURN IT OFF! Also, the stock USB cord from Samsung is terrible, so invest in a new one asap. Plugging the usb cord into a usb socket will only trickle charge your device, so I would suggest plugging into the wall charger that came with your phone as it will charge MUCH faster and you can still use it while it is charging without it going down significantly.
People complaining about lack of ROMs and what-not, take a look around. There are already plenty of options out there and this phone has only been available for a month!! If you would like something in your ROM that isn't on this website, quit complaining and learn how to make your own. It also really astonishes me how someone could actually want to switch from an Epic to an Evo. The battery life issue isn't even relevant in this case, as the Evo is just a battery hog plain and simple. Stop whining, download JuiceDefender, get a custom ROM and kernel with a battery tweak such as removed DRM and undervolt, and see the difference for yourself. No offense Evo users, but the Epic takes all of your problems and solves them flawlessly.
And if for some reason you still think there aren't enough custom ROMs out there, take a look at some stuff from noobnl, the king of the Epic in my opinion. And then be amazed at this.
*P.S. noobnl you are the man, I will donate for sure whenever cm6 is out*
*And another thing, Froyo was supposed to be available at the end of September, which it clearly isn't. Until you hear otherwise, just wait because it is looking like it's going to be a while*
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Haven't you heard? When you turn on your phone with Froyo installed Rainbows and Unicorns fly out of the screen.
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happens on 2.1 also just take some shrooms
lol at this thread.
Froyo could be closer than we think. An official build for the Captivate was leaked yesterday.
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Froyo could be closer than we think. An official build for the Captivate was leaked yesterday.
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Sprint Reps "Predict" it will be at the end of october beggining nov. so we might get a leak end of this month
CwickStylz said:
I've had a an EVO since day one & absolutely loved the phone, but being the phone junkie I am, I had to grab an Epic as well & not so sure about my decision. I mean I can always fall back to the EVO, but there are a lot of nice benefits of the Epic...
- The screen is absolutely gorgeous(thats a given)
- I'm 50/50 on the physical keyboard & actually find I use Swype just as much
- The Hummingbird destroys the Snapdragon
But, battery life is even worse than on the EVO sadly. I mean I even have my home screen pretty much all black, as that supposedly uses zero power & can barely make it through an 8 hour work day with light use. Also, it just feels cheap compared to the EVO. I mean if I drop this thing once, I'm sure it's toast.
If I could see some Froyo on this thing that might give me more incentive to continue using it vs. the EVO!
My question, when is Froyo going to drop?
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Question,does Evo have Amoled or Lcd?I keep reading different things about it some posts say amoled some say slcd.

Up for upgrade. Epic or Evo

I am up for an upgrade in a week and have been weighing my options for a while and am currently leaning towards the Epic, but was hoping to get some insight from the Epic community and hopefully some people that have used both phones. My main concern with the Epic is that of Sammy and their history of not supporting hardware. I still have a bad taste in my mouth over the Instinct(great hardware, terrible software and support). I don't care that much about the home screen part of either or the mail app as I will be using GMail and LauncherPro. One question I have is how many serious and talented linux devs are there that work on the Epic? I know most of the Hero devs went to the Evo. I currently have a Hero running CM6. I like some parts of Sense, but it's performance was a major turn-off and was what made me turn to ASOP. As far as the keyboard goes, I am undecided on whether I will actually like/use it or not. The only thing I see myself using it for is gaming emulators. Another concern is I have heard something about GPS issues, have they been fixed or acknowledged? I am open to input and am truly on the border here. Also, has a root been found for the epic yet? This is a big one for me so that I can at least remove the sprint crapware.
I would say go for the evo. Not long ago I was in the same boat a you. I did a ton off research, and played with both phones extensively. I chose the evo, and it its the most amazing phone I've ever seen. Now that htc uncapped the fps, there is really no problems. The epic is great, but imo the evo is better.
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I own both. I prefer the Epic for the keyboard. However, I dislike its screen for late night bed surfing lol. All AMOLEDs are way too bright in the dark.
Couple other noticeable things for me:
Screen: Epic for brightness/colors, however EVO has better responsiveness (assuming hardware/software issue for Epic)
Screen FPS: Epic, but they just released official fix for EVO
Text input: Epic since it has hardware keyboard in addition to touch
Battery life: EVO hands down, my Epic seems to die too fast and I never used any type of battery saving application on EVO
Power button location: Blows on Epic, why did they put it on the side??
Phone Size: Epic is lighter and smaller
ROM Development: EVO because its a HTC device, but I hope this changes soon
And I'd go with the Epic. I got my girlfriend her first smartphone 3 months ago and got her the Evo. Played with it for a few weeks and definitely liked the phone. Then I came up for an upgrade and I had the same decision to make. I ended up chosing the Epic as it seems it is a fewer months older and has a few slight upgrades over the Evo, but not much.
The Epic screen is ridiculously amazing. They do NOT compare. I love having a hard keyboard, and I text a lot more because of it. It's been two phones and about 3 years since I had a keyboard, but I picked it right up and my fingers flew.
Touchwiz is very nice, but I got rid of it after a few days, well actually the 3rd day once I rooted. I did the same with Sense on my Hero, like it, but I rather go completely customizable with a custom launcher.
Another great thing about the Epic is the notificatoin settings bar. You can adjust a few settings like wifi, 4g, bluetooth, brightness and airplane mode all from the pull down bar. And it even works without Touchwiz, which was a surprise to me. This feature alone gives me a big vote for epic over evo.
It seems the Epic's cpu runs a little faster/more efficientyly than the Evo's. The battery life on both is about what you can expect, if you use it a lot, plan on charging it during the day. Are you into rooting and getting the most out of your phone? Then you can get extensively better battery duration.
Right now, there isn't a lot of extra stuff you can do on a rooted Epic, but the phone's only been out a few weeks and the Evo has a jumpstart on developmental stuff. Also, the Evo is already on 2.2 where the Epic is still on 2.1, although rumors have it getting 2.2 in the next month.
Gps issue is definitely a problem on the Epic. I use my GPS about 5 times a day as I travel to different sites for my job. There is a delay in getting a good lock, but there should be a fix for this soon, and it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I usually get a lock within a minute. But I'll be happy when I get that instantaneous lock again.
One thing the Evo definitely has on the Epic is a bit bigger screen, .3", and HDMI out. That function is disabled on the Epic for some reason. I've heard a few reasons, but who knows. I use the DLNA option instead as my TV is new enough to support it.
I came from 3 generations of HTC phones before this, so it was hard for me to leave HTC. In the end, either way you're getting an awesome phone. so good luck with this decision!
epic camera owns the evo. period
I own both and would say EVO hands down. I thought the physical keyboard would be for me as that was the hardest to get used to on my EVO but after using both extensively I'd get the EVO. Where a few people like being able to adjust wifi/bluetooth and whatnot from the upper status pulldown, on the EVO it's a widget called "Power Control". To me this gives the same ease. Having both the EVO and the EPIC side by side I wouldn't say the EPIC screen blows away the EVO. Colors seem more blue on the EPIC and amoled is nice but I'd take my EVO any day for the .3 larger screen + it doesn't look bad at all.
Now if you're HEAVY into games and that's the main purpose for your phone then I'd recommend you get the EPIC. GPS isn't as big of an issue as people make it out to be BUT that being said there's been a few times when I needed it *now* and was waiting for about 3-5 minutes which I am sorry is NOT cool. The EVO locks on almost instantly, and most places I have tried indoor as well (obviously in a concrete office building it's not going to work... but at home in my bedroom it works fine).
I would suggest that you go to a Sprint store and really play with both for ~20 minutes each...
'tuna
monadzback said:
epic camera owns the evo. period
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Not true
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basically epic if u like physical kbs or evo if not
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Not true
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Yes it is.
Having owned, and done extensive reviews and research on both I can conclude that the Epic's camera is much better than the Evos. The saturation, contrast, and white balance are all superior. Not to mention the video camera is only bested by the iPhone4.
I owned the Evo b4 the Epic. I liked the Evo, because the development for the device is amazing. The kickstand on the Evo is also great and comes in handy. Now that the 30fps caps is removed, it is even a greater phone.
I chose the Epic for a smaller form factor in phone size. I had to use two hands to use the Evo and my fingers would not reach across the screen without touching my skin. The Evo camera is not as good as the Epic, 23 fps vs 29/30fps at a constant rate. I like have an option of a physical keyboard to use only *if* I am typing a long email, playing a emulator or just getting tired of using the on screen keyboard. The AMOLED screen pwns the LCD screen and the Epics GPU is amazing, I run everything smoothly on my Epic.
In my opinion they are both great phones, but if you prefer a bigger form factor and a great development scene go for the Evo. If you prefer a great overall device that has everything built in for a phone then choose the Epic.
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Not true
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Yes it is.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/09/epic-vs-evo-the-cameras/
The EVO can't shoot HD video in low light situations. It goes at around 10-15 FPS. It's blurrier during the day. It over saturates the colors. The 8MP on the camera is totally pointless because the quality of the camera doesn't measure up.
My Epic takes much better pictures than my EVO. But regardless... there are far MORE IMPORTANT reasons to get a phone.
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I own both. I prefer the Epic for the keyboard. However, I dislike its screen for late night bed surfing lol. All AMOLEDs are way too bright in the dark.
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lol I agree! I own both also and the super AMOLED is way too bright even at its lowest setting. I do love both devices equally though
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epic camera owns the evo. period
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Have you owned both? Care to give any reasons/data explaining why?
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Yes it is.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/09/epic-vs-evo-the-cameras/
The EVO can't shoot HD video in low light situations. It goes at around 10-15 FPS. It's blurrier during the day. It over saturates the colors. The 8MP on the camera is totally pointless because the quality of the camera doesn't measure up.
My Epic takes much better pictures than my EVO. But regardless... there are far MORE IMPORTANT reasons to get a phone.
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Apparently you haven't used cm6 on the EVO. IT does wonders for the camera and does things that no other camera app does as of yet; touch to focus while in camcorder mode....I get 24ish fps in 720p in low light with cm6.
Look, I own both, they both have their pros/cons but NEVER ever would I say one owns the other. It almost like Mac vs. PC they both do some things well....and others not so well.
Epic, is my vote, root is already out. Out of the box, epic is so much better. I still have my evo, but I never pick it up.
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My pick is the Evo. I got the Epic at launch, but it never felt right for me. I was also annoyed at the current bugs, which I can confirm it has. I just didn't have faith in Samsung to come out with a fix for them all, especially in my 30 window.
I returned it for the Evo and was amazed how much more I liked the Evo. Just feels like the better phone imo. Battery life is much better on the Evo than the Epic for me too.
Good luck.
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Either one you pick you wil be happy. I ended up going with the epic for the better screen, better processor and gpu and the keyboard. Even though im starting to use the screen keyboard alot more now that i installed the droid x keyboard.. i take the train to work everyday so i watch movies and play games on a daily basis.. and despite the screen size disadvantage the epic has.. movies look so much better.. and believe me i've tried both
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Either one you pick you wil be happy.
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Agreed! They are both good machines(?), err phones. As I said in an earlier post, it'd be stupid to not go to Sprint and really play with both for like 10-20 minutes each. Download quadrant, neocore, your favorite app(s), etc., etc. and run it all on both and make an informed decision. Most Sprint employees (around were I live) recommend the EVO, that said, don't let a sales person sway you one way or another.
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Agreed! They are both good machines(?), err phones. As I said in an earlier post, it'd be stupid to not go to Sprint and really play with both for like 10-20 minutes each. Download quadrant, neocore, your favorite app(s), etc., etc. and run it all on both and make an informed decision. Most Sprint employees (around were I live) recommend the EVO, that said, don't let a sales person sway you one way or another.
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I plan on it. I have been to best buy twice, but for some reason in their great wisdom they only have mockups so you cant play around with them. I am going to buy it at best buy so I get my reward points and better returns.
I have both, bought Evo, really liked it, but when the Epic came out, tried it, loved it, gave Evo to hubby.
Handsize and feel is important to me, the Epic fits hand better, buttons are in more convenient place for one hand usage, Love Swype, love screen, rooted but staying with Touchwiz because its so smooth (and waiting for 2.2
before I mess with other roms). The pics are awesome, as are some of the apps, especially Google Sky. It actually runs a little faster than Evo in opening apps.
Now hubby loves Evo, bigger feel in hands, screen, but to me, colors look more washed out. However, he is color blind so can tell no difference.
I came from rooted Hero, so like Touchwiz better than Sense. Its a comfort zone, they are both great, play with them, if we didn't have two to chose from, everyone would like the one choice they have.
P.S. My only wish would be no keyboard on Epic and thinner, never use it with large on screen keyboards and Swype.

lag?

i see a lot of people complaining about lag on the vibrant, my dad has one and i'm planning on getting one to replace my N1 as a normal useage phone (mostly because i'm stick of waiting 6 months for cyanogen updates now)
Anyway, i've noticed pretty much no lag on my dads vibrant for the last month or so. it sometimes takes a few seconds to load some of the default apps like dialer, contacts or messaging, but once your in there it's smooth as can be. Sims 3 is running amazingly smooth, and i can jump around avatar with pretty much no lag at all. and this is on a stock, unrooted, vibrant.
So i'm just wondering, so many people are complaining about the lag but i see none.
also downloading the update to my dads phone now so i'm curious to see how that will play into this.
*edit* oh and one thing i want to add, the 3d gallery, launcherpro, and any game is easilly running with a 2-3x faster framerate than my Cm6 N1. Honestly my dads phone makes my N1 look like a G1.
I've had the Vibrant since it's debut. I have an Exchange server at work and noticed horrible lag in the default email app and even worse in Touchdown. Tried RyanZA's v1 lagfix and was blown away at the speed difference. Now I have the JI6 update and the lag was better, but with the OCLF v2.1 applied my phone is so fast, it's stupid. If you don't think you have lag - try a lagfix and you'll see.
fF
My wife and I both have the vibrant. Hers is slow, and mine is not. I have no idea what the difference is because, although hers is stock and nine is not, the lag was not a problem for me even when mine was stock.
It's because she is a woman and women don't know how to use phones. LOL. JK! (Sorta)
^^^ eff yourself
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^^^ eff yourself
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Geez, calm down. Ever heard of a joke?
Where did you buy the phones though? Sometimes there are significant hard and software differences of each unit. For example, my first vibrant cant overclock, and it was hardware locked. This new one i have can do both flawlessly.
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i see a lot of people complaining about lag on the vibrant, my dad has one and i'm planning on getting one to replace my N1 as a normal useage phone (mostly because i'm stick of waiting 6 months for cyanogen updates now)
Anyway, i've noticed pretty much no lag on my dads vibrant for the last month or so. it sometimes takes a few seconds to load some of the default apps like dialer, contacts or messaging, but once your in there it's smooth as can be. Sims 3 is running amazingly smooth, and i can jump around avatar with pretty much no lag at all. and this is on a stock, unrooted, vibrant.
So i'm just wondering, so many people are complaining about the lag but i see none.
also downloading the update to my dads phone now so i'm curious to see how that will play into this.
*edit* oh and one thing i want to add, the 3d gallery, launcherpro, and any game is easilly running with a 2-3x faster framerate than my Cm6 N1. Honestly my dads phone makes my N1 look like a G1.
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IMHO, and I own both a Vibrant and a G2, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and I sold my N1 in the process. I kicked myself on a daily basis until I broke down and bought a G2.
The lack of a camera flash, non-working GPS, lag, 2.1 instead of 2.2, and a few other issues far outweighed the beauty of the screen for me. Don't get me wrong, the screen is F*#%ing AWESOME on the Vibrant. Its just that I found I couldn't live without a reliable gps, flash, (Adobe Flash is nice too), and the lag is annoying.
This is all my opinion of course, and to each his own. I recommend that if you get a vibrant you keep your N1 till you are sure you want the Vibrant. Personally I just sent my Vibrant back for the 3rd time, Including the original one that I bought, I will have my 5th Vibrant come tomorrow, I am ready to be rid of it but there is no resale value. Brand new in the box from Craigslist they sell for as little as $275. That is because of the BOGO and all the super deals on them right now.
Just my .02!
Didnt read anyother replies. But I'm just going to recommend going to the development section and just download a bionix rom. Its the fastest thing on this phone as far as roms imo. Voodoo makes this phone fly even faster but the stock 1.8 rom is still really smooth without it.
People who complain about lag should spend 2 hours reading various guides and getting firmiluar with that device in your hand.
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What do you need a flash for? Have you ever tried night mode with auto contrast on? Pretty awesome results unless you are trying to take pictures in pitch black.
And JI6 fixes both the lag and the GPS issues. If that isn't enough for you, bionix has done a wonderful job with his rom. Seriously, everything you are saying has either been fixed by JI6 or a dev.
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My phone was running Frankin Wiz with Voodoo Lag fix, My gps still sucked. The gps tracks jump all over the place no matter what I do.
I am talking strictly of the out of the box experience between the two devices.
My question to you as a consumer, not a power user or hacker, or moder or anything like that, just an average everyday consumer is this: Do you feel like after spending $500 (out of contract) on a "smart phone", that you should then have to spend several hours of your time learning how to install third party firmware and hacks on your device, just so that you can get the functionality that was advertised?
If you bought a brand new car from a dealership and found out that you had to replace the transmission and pay for custom engine modifications for it to run right, would you say to your friends, "Well the car has some problems but you can fix them by getting a new transmission and having the engine overhauled, I think you should buy one." HELL NO, you would say that the car is a POS and you would return it and get one that worked right and you would tell everyone.
Why are you defending a product that is flawed? I own the phone, I paid $500 for it. I think that it is not what I hoped it would be. I like to mod my phone, I shouldn't have to mod my phone. Does that make sense?
Just like I wouldn't recommend a flawed vehicle, I will not recommend a flawed phone. Simple as that.
Now let the arguing and flaming begin!
I see your point, but the point is that Samsung has addressed the issues. Cars are not perfect and have to have things corrected with them also. Ever heard of a recall or factory defect?
Seriously, JI6 is a Godsend. I was running that STOCK with no modifications for a few days and then decided to try the newest version of Bionix. It wasn't because anything was wrong, I just wanted something different. I just put that on my phone TODAY. Again, I was running STOCK JI6 and the phone was perfect. I didn't even install a lagfix. When I was on JFD, there was unbearable lag, JI6 none.
I tried Eugene's rom in the past and nothing against the rom, it wasn't for me.
I just think you need to do your research more. I can see you are frustrated but like I said, you could have a fully functional phone without any modifications with the newest update. Then if you choose to, and only if you chose to, you could install a different rom.
I am actually not frustrated at all. You see I have exchanged my Vibrant 3 times for Warranty. I will be trading it in on a MyTouch next month. I am so fed up with my samsung experience that I will probably never buy another phone from them. I may give the TAB a shot, but if it sux like the phone it will go back before the 14 days is up.
I have had my Samsung since July. I wanted to love the phone, but overall I am really disappointed. I am going back to HTC.
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IMHO, and I own both a Vibrant and a G2, I did the same thing you are thinking about doing and I sold my N1 in the process. I kicked myself on a daily basis until I broke down and bought a G2.
The lack of a camera flash, non-working GPS, lag, 2.1 instead of 2.2, and a few other issues far outweighed the beauty of the screen for me. Don't get me wrong, the screen is F*#%ing AWESOME on the Vibrant. Its just that I found I couldn't live without a reliable gps, flash, (Adobe Flash is nice too), and the lag is annoying.
This is all my opinion of course, and to each his own. I recommend that if you get a vibrant you keep your N1 till you are sure you want the Vibrant. Personally I just sent my Vibrant back for the 3rd time, Including the original one that I bought, I will have my 5th Vibrant come tomorrow, I am ready to be rid of it but there is no resale value. Brand new in the box from Craigslist they sell for as little as $275. That is because of the BOGO and all the super deals on them right now.
Just my .02!
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Have you tried flashing a Bionix rom? No lag issues. Gps is fixed. Night and day difference compared to the stock rom.
If not, the G2 and Mytouch HD are very good alternatives.
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Could there be some "bad" batches running around that suffer from this lag? Sort of like the harware locked phones... my first Vibrant was HW locked and I exchanged it and ended up with a non-HW locked phone.
On both phones, neither had any level of perceptible lag. Is it that bad that it's affecting everyday useage? Or are people possibly being a bit too nit-picky because their app launched in .001 seconds instead of .00001? I've heard people say their Vibrant lags hard while using Touchdown. I use Touchdown many, many times during the day for my work. Never once has it lagged on me. I'm coming from a MT3G, which was the king of lag so I should know about that.
I go hiking, camping and off-highway driving a couple of times a month so I depend on GPS to be working because I like to chart my trips and set waypoints for future use. I understand the Vibrant has an issue with that right now, but I'm patient enough to wait for the fix. If not, I can just use my Garmin handheld that has been relegated to the drawer which is more of a correct TOOL to use for that sort of thing anyway. It's certainly NOT a deal-breaker for me. Maybe I'm more patient than others.
No flash on the camera? Well, I knew about that BEFORE I bought it, so I have nothing to complain about there. Why would someone complain that it doesn't have a flash and they bought it anyway? Seems absurd. Were you misled somehow? I don't think so. No valid argument there.
No 2.2 yet? Big deal. The phone works. Not like you're running 1.5 with no future plan in sight. If you were, then you'd really have something to cry about.
I think some people are making a bunch of hay over very little things that can be remedied.
Guess I just got "lucky" with my phone, or maybe I'm just not a pain in the ass. I'd hate to be known by TMO employees as "Mr. *****MoanAndComplain", even when they've given me 5 phones already.
The lag issue depends heavily upon how you use the phone. I found certain applications more likely to lag than others, write intensive applications.
I switched to using Google Finance in the web browser from the "official" Finance application due to the heavy lag incurred whenever the app did a background sync. The same for some other apps like Touiteur or Mint.com's app. With JI6 the lag has improved, but it's still not "there" yet for my tastes. I still see a slowdown when K9 is running a background sync... and don't get me started on how slow the phone becomes when using the Facebook application (again, I end up using touch.facebook.com instead since it's faster for me).
My preference is for a multi-tasking phone to actually multi-task, and I also prefer applications to locally cache as much as possible. Unlike most applications where a local cache should provide a desired speed up, the usage of RFS is just as likely to generate a slowdown, counterintuitive really.
I have plenty of apps running all while playing music, no lag. You don't need a lag fix with JI6. Just avoid hacking up your phone. They're not as reliable as the phone would be stock. I'm sure Bionix is making some nice headway but can I guarantee you that it has more bugs than stock and won't look like stock (something we should all desire and change at will).
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I am actually not frustrated at all. You see I have exchanged my Vibrant 3 times for Warranty. I will be trading it in on a MyTouch next month. I am so fed up with my samsung experience that I will probably never buy another phone from them. I may give the TAB a shot, but if it sux like the phone it will go back before the 14 days is up.
I have had my Samsung since July. I wanted to love the phone, but overall I am really disappointed. I am going back to HTC.
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Is it because G2 is the spiritual successor of G1? Because when I visited G2 forum, G2 has its share of problems like lose hinge, temp root (I am sure it will be fixed), and of course only 2G of internal space, etc. But those who are so quick to jump on Samsung, no offense but you are one of them I see posting, gave G2 a 9/10. I am just wonder what is the difference that you can tolerate the fault of one phone but not the other.
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Is it because G2 is the spiritual successor of G1? Because when I visited G2 forum, G2 has its share of problems like lose hinge, temp root (I am sure it will be fixed), and of course only 2G of internal space, etc. But those who are so quick to jump on Samsung, no offense but you are one of them I see posting, gave G2 a 9/10. I am just wonder what is the difference that you can tolerate the fault of one phone but not the other.
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My next phone will be iOS or WP7. I may just pay outright for an HD7 when released.
Half the issues are with Sammy, half are with Android. Basically the phone is at least usablr now, but I have founf Android to be boring and overhyped. /shrug
But Android phone support serms quite hit and miss and due to the android market and fragmentation manufacturers seem more intent on realeasing more devices than fewer, but higher quality devices with good support backing them.
If anything it has led me yo see the hidden advantages of Apple and Microsoft's approaches IRT their (new) mobile OSes.
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man i started one hell of a debate lol
Well i think my dads vibrant is hardware locked, i held the power button and volume down button and it just kept showing the vibrant boot screen and then rebooting back into it until i let go and then booted up normally.
As far as getting a vibrant for myself, i would wait for froyo. had froyo too long to go back to 2.1. But personally i've used a G2 and didn't like it at all. Didn't like the form and weight, and even though the speed was a lot better than my N1, to get it the way i would want it i would still have to change the rom and do tons of other stuff.
So looking at the vibrant, i'll lose my trackball and flash, i can live without the trackball, and after taking some nightmode pictures on the vibrant they come out easily 100 times better then any picture i took with the flash on the N1, though losing the flash as a flashlight does kinda suck.
But just looking at the vibrant for me it's the best thing, i'd probably just root it and never change the rom since i actually like a lot of the touchwiz changes. Though i would install launcherpro and probably switch out for the stock messaging app.
And to test the lag some more on my dads phone with the new update, i had solitaire, 3d gallery, browser (with 6 windows), maps, and on the phone and i got no lag switching in and out of all the apps.

So after owning the G2 for a few weeks...

I'm happy to say that I'm back on my Samsung Vibrant! The G2 is a great looking phone, and fast at that too. Issues that made me walk away from it....
Hinge was fine when I first got it, but after a few weeks it got really loose.
Force closed on my Apps so many times, it made me wanna toss it out the window a few times.
Rebooted itself at least once a day. This morning it did it 3 times back-to-back. Really?!?!
Can't get a perm root, and it looks like a few are starting to give up on it. I'm sure it'll be rooted, but not any time soon.
I really missed the Vibrant crew. You guys are a bunch of cool Mother F__kers!
Missed this pretty ass screen! <3
Oh, and I know this is minor, but I couldn't do this <3 because the G2 is missing this key "<"
Done.
I haven't heard of any of them rebooting themselves. That is weird.
Did you do something to the phone to make that happen?
traitor.
j/k.
welcome back to the Vibrant.
Let's make a group called "The Vibrants!"
I didn't do anything to it at all. I didn't even try to install temp root either. I didn't want to mess with the phone till their was a perm root.
If you go to the G2 forum section, you'll see that a few people had a issues with the phone rebooting on its own. Even when I called T-Mobile about the issue, I was told that they've been getting calls about the issue.
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I haven't heard of any of them rebooting themselves. That is weird.
Did you do something to the phone to make that happen?
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There has definitely been people having issues with the phone rebooting by itself. Sometimes even 3 times in a day like he mentioned. Seen plenty of people on my Twitter timeline complain about it. There seem to be a lot of issues with the phone.
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I really missed the Vibrant crew. You guys are a bunch of cool Mother F__kers
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Good to have a family member back
We're pretty cool
You were lucky to return it. There are posts that some people have been put on a wait list due to so many returns coming in.
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I am on my third G2 with the fourth replacement on the way and so far all have had very similar issues.1.Very very poor to no reception. 2. random rebooting, 3. Black screen freezes. 4. Dropped calls. 5. Loose hinges that keep getting looser. 6. When deploying keyboard apps start randomly. 7. Very difficult to connect to market. 8. Powers itself off on a random basis. I am so Grateful that I still have my Vibrant. So far I would rank it way above the G2. If my fourth one has the same issues and there is no OTA update to fix some of them I will send it back. IMO I believe the Vibrant is the best phone available at this time.
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I am on my third G2 with the fourth replacement on the way and so far all have had very similar issues.1.Very very poor to no reception. 2. random rebooting, 3. Black screen freezes. 4. Dropped calls. 5. Loose hinges that keep getting looser. 6. When deploying keyboard apps start randomly. 7. Very difficult to connect to market. 8. Powers itself off on a random basis. I am so Grateful that I still have my Vibrant. So far I would rank it way above the G2. If my fourth one has the same issues and there is no OTA update to fix some of them I will send it back. IMO I believe the Vibrant is the best phone available at this time.
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I agree about the Vibrant being the best phone right now.
Thanks for telling me this after I just purchased a G2...
Actually I'm not giving my Vibrant up just yet. Once my G2 gets here I'll have both. I was able to get the G2 new for $200 flat-out (no contract) So I'm gonna keep them both for a while and see what happens. Then maybe I'll sell one
Told them so........
Told them so........ but no one listens The Vibrant best phone on the market today.
Smartphones I have had:
2 blackberrys, 3 Iphones, 1 nokia, 2 Winmo Phones, the G1 and the Hd 2
Of all those phones only the HD2 came close in overall performance to the Vibrant...... but not android and what a battery hog- did like the htc sense
What I like about the Vibrant (besides almost everything) it is very forgiving when you brick, I have been able to restore from all screwups I have created within 1 hr.
Within the first 20 min of trying a G2 I knew it was going to be buggy that is why I stayed with this phone
Good luck But Vibrant still RocKs
That just proves that every phone had issues. No phone is perfect.
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That just proves that every phone had issues. No phone is perfect.
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+1 plus 10 char
Still loving my vibrant.
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That just proves that every phone had issues. No phone is perfect.
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Anyone try the EVO 4G? I wouldn't switch, I was just wondering. I love my vibrant, but my friend is switching because of the hype of 4G and the large screen. I've never tried seen an EVO up close so I'm not sure how good it really is.
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Anyone try the EVO 4G? I wouldn't switch, I was just wondering. I love my vibrant, but my friend is switching because of the hype of 4G and the large screen. I've never tried seen an EVO up close so I'm not sure how good it really is.
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Yeah I had the Evo before I got my Vibrant. It's a good phone, but Sprint sucks and the hype of the 4G is complete bull. I got about 4mbps tops on 4G and my Vibrant gets 6.
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Just want to say welcome back. And after the froyo update we'll be back on the top of the food chain again: )
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This thread help me decide somethings. I am kicking Verizon to the curb because of billing issues. I am really looking at T-Mobile. Not sure if I want the Vibrant or HD2. I have a Droid X and now hooked on the 4.3".
Had thought about Evo but know the battery is horrible. I thought of the G2 because of HSPA+ but looks like I need to do the Vibrant or HD2.
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Just want to say welcome back. And after the froyo update we'll be back on the top of the food chain again: )
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Personally I'd rather they get rid of RFS before I worry about Froyo. Faster JIT sounds nice but when your largest bottleneck is the FS, it doesn't matter. It's like driving a Ferrari in a school zone.
I love everything about the phone except the RFS. RFS is an example of companies drinking their kool-aid and wearing their sneakers, with the same result when it comes to plastic bags and breathing.
If you flash Bionix, Master ROM, AOSPish, or Eugene's R4, your phone will run like butter. Like. It's ridiculous how fast this thing is. I can't even stand to use the Nexus One it feels so laggy after witnessing such smoothness on the vibrant.
Other than that. My G2 also went back. It's not worth the hype nor the money. They could have made it AWESOME but no, they made it suck. The Vibrant is THE best phone. It out-performs EVERY phone in both power and slickness. The screen is the best. Once we get Froyo rolling we will be king. Forever. The only comparable/better phone to the Vibrant in smoothness (on menus/swyping screens) is the iPhone 4. But that's Crapple.
As far as the Evo 4g goes, it's ugly, and 4g aka Wimax is ***** **** that can't even touch T-Mobile's 3g itself, let alone HSPA+. My vibrant pulls 6.3mb/s. Sprint's 4g can't do that. Sprint is a joke and should be sued for false advertising
As far as the Droid X goes, it's huge and bulky. I just got one for testing on WQVGA854 screens for my apps. It's a decent device but it is more sluggish than anticipated even on Froyo. My vibrant on 2.1 runs Way smoother than my Nexus, G2, and DroidX combined, and they're all froyo.
The Vibrant is also a lot more slick than the Droid X. The Droid X is huge.
Also, depending on your location of course, T-Mobile is the best and 2nd cheapest (cricket), and most honest *cough*at&t*cough* provider. They have the nicest reps and the fastest 3g.
Vibrant -> ALL.
Vibrant 2.2 ---------------------------> all
Not to mention the Vibrant can get the FFC now as well. HSPA+ is only 8-10MB/s here in Pittsburgh as compared to 6.3MB/s, so it's not THAT big of a difference.
I will be keeping my Vibrant and loving it until Samsung drops the HSPA+ Dual Core Vibrant 2, on Gingerbread of course . And an unlimited-point touch screen with a QuadrupleSuperAMOLED HD lmao and 1920/1080 resolution... ROFL. Along with T-Mo's 42mb/s HSPA+ when that rolls. Not to mention a Camera button on the same side as the volume rocker and a mini HDMI out on the other side and... blah. Yes I dream.. 10 megapixel camera... records 1080p... a WiFi module with the power of a laptop's... and some real bluetooth compatibility... and a flash on the back camera... Make it Quad Core processor at 3.0GHz too LOL. I've gone too far.
OH and can't forget the quad-speaker setup that it should also have. Two speakers on the back and two speakers on the front. (top/bottom) and a 6800 mAh battery... that lasts like. 2 weeks. And make the touch screen feel like you could almost be touching water. But not wet.
Hahahaha. And. Uh. 1TB mini-SSD internal drive With 8GB/s transfer rate. Boots up in 5 seconds. Would be instant but needs a splash screen
Anderdroid said:
If you flash Bionix, Master ROM, AOSPish, or Eugene's R4, your phone will run like butter. Like. It's ridiculous how fast this thing is. I can't even stand to use the Nexus One it feels so laggy after witnessing such smoothness on the vibrant.
Other than that. My G2 also went back. It's not worth the hype nor the money. They could have made it AWESOME but no, they made it suck. The Vibrant is THE best phone. It out-performs EVERY phone in both power and slickness. The screen is the best. Once we get Froyo rolling we will be king. Forever. The only comparable/better phone to the Vibrant in smoothness (on menus/swyping screens) is the iPhone 4. But that's Crapple.
As far as the Evo 4g goes, it's ugly, and 4g aka Wimax is ***** **** that can't even touch T-Mobile's 3g itself, let alone HSPA+. My vibrant pulls 6.3mb/s. Sprint's 4g can't do that. Sprint is a joke and should be sued for false advertising
As far as the Droid X goes, it's huge and bulky. I just got one for testing on WQVGA854 screens for my apps. It's a decent device but it is more sluggish than anticipated even on Froyo. My vibrant on 2.1 runs Way smoother than my Nexus, G2, and DroidX combined, and they're all froyo.
The Vibrant is also a lot more slick than the Droid X. The Droid X is huge.
Also, depending on your location of course, T-Mobile is the best and 2nd cheapest (cricket), and most honest *cough*at&t*cough* provider. They have the nicest reps and the fastest 3g.
Vibrant -> ALL.
Vibrant 2.2 ---------------------------> all
Not to mention the Vibrant can get the FFC now as well. HSPA+ is only 8-10MB/s here in Pittsburgh as compared to 6.3MB/s, so it's not THAT big of a difference.
I will be keeping my Vibrant and loving it until Samsung drops the HSPA+ Dual Core Vibrant 2, on Gingerbread of course . And an unlimited-point touch screen with a QuadrupleSuperAMOLED HD lmao and 1920/1080 resolution... ROFL. Along with T-Mo's 42mb/s HSPA+ when that rolls. Not to mention a Camera button on the same side as the volume rocker and a mini HDMI out on the other side and... blah. Yes I dream.. 10 megapixel camera... records 1080p... a WiFi module with the power of a laptop's... and some real bluetooth compatibility... and a flash on the back camera... Make it Quad Core processor at 3.0GHz too LOL. I've gone too far.
OH and can't forget the quad-speaker setup that it should also have. Two speakers on the back and two speakers on the front. (top/bottom) and a 6800 mAh battery... that lasts like. 2 weeks.
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Yeah You are dreaming...and misrepresenting the truth. By the time you get Froyo it will be time to get a new phone. I had the Vibrant for almost 30 days (Cali) sent it back before the remorse period. I rooted it on the first day, the screen is over saturated for my taste (hurts the eyes) and the quality of the phone is plastic and flimsy. The Samsung Epic is a better choice. As for Sprint, I have hit 10+ downloads speeds in the valley and overall they have more coverage (3G) then T-Mobile. The Roms for the Vibrant were sorely insufficient for my taste as well, plus touchwiz is just ugly. Try taking a picture without any light, no video calls, no front camera, no dual led flash= less than Evo or Epic. However, it is slightly behind Nexus and Incredible as far as what it can do. The processor is geared toward gaming, but in other areas it will fall short. Run a linpack on that thing if and when you get Froyo and tell me what you get. You will never get above 20 mflops. So, in that area all the other phones I mentioned are killing the Vibrant.
I returned 2 g2's because of random reboots, so yes that is an issue
i am back to my good ole vibrant

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