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MODS, RENAME THIS FORUM TO "TIPS & TRICKS" OR SOMETHING!
NO ONE reads the 3rd sticky saying that "This sub-forum is only for tips/info/news etc., NOT QUESTIONS"
SO RENAME IT!!!!!!!!!! Will save you mods time from moving threads!
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MODS, RENAME THIS FORUM TO "TIPS & TRICKS" OR SOMETHING!
NO ONE reads the 3rd sticky saying that "This sub-forum is only for tips/info/news etc., NOT QUESTIONS"
SO RENAME IT!!!!!!!!!! Will save you mods time from moving threads!
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haha i wanna see where this leads....
I was going to suggest it in the "i don't know about you, but i'm glad the mods are cleaning up" thread, but that got locked.
But seriously... doesn't this make sense?
Just look at the forum right now, there's a million threads moved cuz it's in the wrong forum, cuz people thing this is a "general" talk forum.
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NO ONE reads the 3rd sticky saying that "This sub-forum is only for tips/info/news etc., NOT QUESTIONS"
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What more would you like the mods to do? There already is a Q&A section where questions are to be placed, which means this thread is for anything non question related. Relax and repeat a mantra or something.
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What more would you like the mods to do?
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Not much.
I reckon his post is really directed at posters who refuse to (or cannot ) read, not the mods. I suppose while people continue answering Qs posted in the General forum, people will continue to post them. OTOH if participants resist the urge to show their knowledge by responding in the wrong forum maybe the posters will see the error in their ways. Failing that the post without a response will soon fade away.
As someone else mentioned, placing the Q&A thread atop the list would probably fix things, but it is out of whack with the rest of the XDA layout, so this would not do either. Quite a few of the Questions seem to come from posters who use English as a second language. So perhaps changing Q&A to Question & Answers may help because the abbreviation may not be so obvious to some.
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What more would you like the mods to do? There already is a Q&A section where questions are to be placed, which means this thread is for anything non question related. Relax and repeat a mantra or something.
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I understand that, but like the sticky says, the General forum is a tips/news/hints forum, and if you take 2 seconds to look at all the threads in the General forum, they're 99% questions.
Like I said in the first post, I think a lot of people see General, and think of a general/misc talking forum, so they go here to post their issues/ask for help/etc..
SO, since the sticky does say this General forum is tips/news/hints, it should be renamed to that, so when a n00b sees Q&A, they'd ask their Questions there, and if they have tips/news/hints, they'd post here.
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I was going to suggest it in the "i don't know about you, but i'm glad the mods are cleaning up" thread, but that got locked.
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Like I said in that thread, the issue was brought up to the moderators and they will do something about it (once the person in charge gets back from his vacation).
Anyways, don't worry about it.. it won't kill you. I'm the one who's doing the work and I'm not complaining much.
And can we please stop starting these threads in the N1 forum --- if you have a general issue with the boards then post them to the main forums (General, etc.), not here. Thank you
If I'm supposed to put my questions in the Q&A section, why is it not available on the mobile app? Our am I missing something? Lol
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WRONG SECTION!!!!!! jk
I had the same issue and just un installed and reinstalled the app and it came up.
*edit* Previous thread.
good day.
ragarm said:
If I'm supposed to put my questions in the Q&A section, why is it not available on the mobile app? Our am I missing something? Lol
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The q&a section is a joke, now all you hear is wrong section!, wrong section!... what is the point exactly? I just was reading a post where a guy was getting yelled at for posting a question in the question forum...
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ziggy484 said:
The q&a section is a joke, now all you hear is wrong section!, wrong section!... what is the point exactly? I just was reading a post where a guy was getting yelled at for posting a question in the question forum...
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Which thread was that you were reading?
Yeah, can you link me? More than likely it was a thread that was moved after the question was asked an the yelling happened.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Probably the ROM/Kernel combo for battery life thread.
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Yeah, can you link me? More than likely it was a thread that was moved after the question was asked an the yelling happened.
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Well im sure not going to waste time looking for it again... but lets say your right and it was moved after the yelling, how about why all the yelling anyway? Only at xda are the majority of conversations polluted with arguing over where to properly post. Ok fine, dont post general stuff in the dev section, thats a no brainer... but q&a, and general are the same thing.
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Well im sure not going to waste time looking for it again... but lets say your right and it was moved after the yelling, how
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Moved by the moderator. OP thought he was posting his thread in the General section when he was actually posting in the developer section. Not hard to find. Is this the thread to which you were referring?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028286
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Moved by the moderator. OP thought he was posting his thread in the General section when he was actually posting in the developer section. Not hard to find. Is this the thread to which you were referring?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1028286
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Its development section, not developer... are you suggesting that only the devs are allowed to post anything there?
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Its development section, not developer... are you suggesting that only the devs are allowed to post anything there?
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No, sorry. Development section. I'm not suggesting anything. I was just trying to answer your question as to how it got moved.
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No, sorry. Development section. I'm not suggesting anything. I was just trying to answer your question as to how it got moved.
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Ok... but tell me the truth, does there really need to be q&a and general? Isnt the whole nature of android forums, people asking, others answering?
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Ok... but tell me the truth, does there really need to be q&a and general? Isnt the whole nature of android forums, people asking, others answering?
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I see the confusion generated by the q&a and general sections. What kind of questions belong in which? I just started posting here with some frequency like 3 weeks ago. I agree the whole nature of forums is asking and answering questions, sharing information, and helping each other out. I think how each forum handles that and how they are formatted are going to be different. I'm not a moderator or anything like that. I'm just someone who is wanting to share information and give and get answers and I'm still trying to figure out exactly how this forum is structured. Still haven't nailed down all the rules and particulars, but I keep searching. I know pretty much all the devs hang out here, so I figure it must be a good place to get some good info.
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Ok... but tell me the truth, does there really need to be q&a and general? Isnt the whole nature of android forums, people asking, others answering?
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How about we take a step back and think about this.
You're asking why is there even a Q and A & General Forum. Well think about if there was just a Samsung Fascinate forum, and nothing more. Everything lumped together. Better yet how about we just make a Samsung forum, people can ask what they want about any Samsung android device. Sounds great right, everyone has a voice and there is no way it would be complicated to use!
The reason they are here is to help you, to help me, to help the devs, to help everyone. Order and organization is the name of the game.
There has to be structure, that is why if you have a question about the Samsung Fascinate and/or its development you place it in the Q and A forum. If you have something you would like to bring up in "general" then..... you see where this is going.
We can either have one large room with everyone yelling at different people, or smaller rooms where there is no need to raise your voice!
But there is no real yelling on a forum, its online. The tense of any one sentence is how you make it.
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How about we take a step back and think about this.
You're asking why is there even a Q and A & General Forum. Well think about if there was just a Samsung Fascinate forum, and nothing more. Everything lumped together. Better yet how about we just make a Samsung forum, people can ask what they want about any Samsung android device. Sounds great right, everyone has a voice and there is no way it would be complicated to use!
The reason they are here is to help you, to help me, to help the devs, to help everyone. Order and organization is the name of the game.
There has to be structure, that is why if you have a question about the Samsung Fascinate and/or its development you place it in the Q and A forum. If you have something you would like to bring up in "general" then..... you see where this is going.
We can either have one large room with everyone yelling at different people, or smaller rooms where there is no need to raise your voice!
But there is no real yelling on a forum, its online. The tense of any one sentence is how you make it.
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Sorry, but that makes no sense... all you need is general and development for each device
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ziggy484 said:
Sorry, but that makes no sense... all you need is general and development for each device
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So I guess the themes and apps section and the accessories section should be put in general? That would make the general section completely unusable.
To the OP, all you need to do is remove the fascinate forum from your favorites. when you add it back to favorites, q&a should be there.
As far as what should go where:
General should be for general discussions like "what rom and why?"
Q&a should be for questions like, "how do I fix xyz?"
If anything should be changed, maybe q&a needs to be renamed "help"
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Its development section, not developer... are you suggesting that only the devs are allowed to post anything there?
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sounds like a good suggestion to me. I think only devs should be thread starters in the dev section.
Lemme break it down for you all:
General is for everything that is a general discussion, not a specific question. Is it confusing, yes. Does it mean that people will still post questions without searching? Yes. But that's why you all have me, I can sort it all out.
Q&A is self described. All questions, whether they are specific device questions or development questions are to be posted within the Q&A section.
Accessories is of course for accessories. Not much to say.
Development is ONLY meant for the releasing of new ROMs and such. General discussion or questions are not permitted within the development section. With the exception of kernel or source discussions, all general development discussion should be posted within the general section.
And themes and apps is self explanatory.
Now, not to be a douche, but if you don't like my rules...don't post! I for one am getting tired of having to stop these arguments when all I am asking is that people read the XDA rules, post in the correct section and use the search button before posting.
Any beef should be brought to me via PM.
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ashasaur said:
Lemme break it down for you all:
General is for everything that is a general discussion, not a specific question. Is it confusing, yes. Does it mean that people will still post questions without searching? Yes. But that's why you all have me, I can sort it all out.
Q&A is self described. All questions, whether they are specific device questions or development questions are to be posted within the Q&A section.
Accessories is of course for accessories. Not much to say.
Development is ONLY meant for the releasing of new ROMs and such. General discussion or questions are not permitted within the development section. With the exception of kernel or source discussions, all general development discussion should be posted within the general section.
And themes and apps is self explanatory.
Now, not to be a douche, but if you don't like my rules...don't post! I for one am getting tired of having to stop these arguments when all I am asking is that people read the XDA rules, post in the correct section and use the search button before posting.
Any beef should be brought to me via PM.
Word.-saur
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I for one am tired of you acting like such a big shot... and rambling on about YOUR rules and where to post this and that, blah blah blah. but thats why i dont come here much anymore. You and chopperdog, and landshark all think your so much better than everyone else
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I for one am tired of you acting like such a big shot... and rambling on about YOUR rules and where to post this and that, blah blah blah. but thats why i dont come here much anymore. You and chopperdog, and landshark all think your so much better than everyone else
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He is laying out the rules, how is that acting like a big shot? Would you rather have an unmoderated, disorganized, cumpled together forum? If that is the case then you are in a very small group of people with that type of preference. You dont have to be here if you dont want to, so why punish yourself if you clearly dont like being here?
The Q&A forum makes perfect sense, as does breaking the forum up based on specific interests. It makes people with certain interests able to more easily find the information they seek as well as get answers to the specific answers they have. It also cuts down on the clutter than can liter a forum because it clumps all information together.
The ONLY reason I made ANY rules is because YOU, as the collective users of the Fascinate section wanted them, you wanted order, and I gave it to you. If you don't feel that my simple rules are worth your time to follow, then do us all a favor and don't post. There are plenty of more open minded users who are happy with the way things are going, and appreciate a little order and structure over the chaos that once was.
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This is a development area.
Meaning if you have created something fixed an error then this is where you post. if you have questions please make a topic in the General section this area is getting filled with junk and multiple post asking things that have been posted if you would just learn to use a button we call the search bar at the top right.
I'm not the mod on this Device but as a dev for this device I want to keep things clean unlike all the other areas. I want people to look as the development area and be like ok thats a rom or recover or root and not have to ask questions.
Next is when in a topic please keep on topic. a few topics are 90% junk because people not staying on topic. DONT make posts that say "I hope this is fixed soon or I'm going to get rid of this device" GROW UP go do some reading and help to to make a fix.
I have to add my 2 cents to this. It's really nice if people other their help and discuss things but sometimes threads have to stay clean in order to be helpful for other developers. So please think about if it's really necessary to add your stuff. Otherwise please use the general section.
If you help the developers to do their stuff quickly we'll be able to write how to threads faster for you guys.
Personally I'll pick only a few persons for testing. This will result in less bricked devices
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Maybe link the [DEV] thread to a [DISCUSSION] thread in general section so noobs like use can talk about the development of a given project and not actually post in the [DEV] thread itself.
Also, I wouldn't hesitate to report a post or thread to the mod. I'm not sure how active he is here but it could use a little cleaning.
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Maybe link the [DEV] thread to a [DISCUSSION] thread in general section so noobs like use can talk about the development of a given project and not actually post in the [DEV] thread itself.
Also, I wouldn't hesitate to report a post or thread to the mod. I'm not sure how active he is here but it could use a little cleaning.
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I tried to set this a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056198 but the people don't listen
its a good idea but if people have a question since we dont have a questions area like other forums it needs to be in the general area. or they need to learn to use a search bar/engine. im just tired of pms/email/threads that have been answered already.
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its a good idea but if people have a question since we dont have a questions area like other forums it needs to be in the general area. or they need to learn to use a search bar/engine. im just tired of pms/email/threads that have been answered already.
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You would think by now with how prevalent forums are for all aspects of life, people would know how to use the search feature.
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I tried to set this a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056198 but the people don't listen
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What I meant, exactly, was say a developer starts in on a project - they start their development thread and in the first post, add a link to a discussion thread in the general forum:
[DEV] My project Title
This is my project explanation.
Link to [DISCUSSION] Thread.
So basically, you start you [DEV] thread. Then when you're done, start a [DISCUSSION] thread then link the two together. So noobs, right from the first post, can see the link to the discussion thread. If someone posts a question or chit chat in you [DEV] thread, have it moved to the [DISCUSSION] thread.
I know, it's not ideal, just a thought.
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What I meant, exactly, was say a developer starts in on a project - they start their development thread and in the first post, add a link to a discussion thread in the general forum:
[DEV] My project Title
This is my project explanation.
Link to [DISCUSSION] Thread.
So basically, you start you [DEV] thread. Then when you're done, start a [DISCUSSION] thread then link the two together. So noobs, right from the first post, can see the link to the discussion thread. If someone posts a question or chit chat in you [DEV] thread, have it moved to the [DISCUSSION] thread.
I know, it's not ideal, just a thought.
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This actually sounds really good to me. The only kicker being what is considred on topic and what isn't? Are testing successes and failures relevant to a dev thread? Only successes? Only "breakthrough" moments? To be determibed by an elite group of our super-dev peers? Determined by the original poster?
Its a very subjective issue, dependent on the knowledge level and/or experience of the poster and reader both (or simply based on what one is hoping to find at that moment as compared to how disappointed one is by what they do find instead).
It could also get really complicated really fast.
Ultimately thats up to the OP.
The whole point is that a dev thread can only stay as clean as there are ways to do it. At least with a seperate (though connected) discussion thread, it can be directed. If someone posts in the dev thread, it should be up to that threads OP whether or not it can stay or be moved- at least now there would be a place to move it.
BUMP!! cause people dont like going to the second page. STOP making questions here this is for DEV's that have something to make the Iconia better not hi can i do this. go to the GENERAL AREA
I am not a developer, and this is the only post I can see myself ever posting here.
I enjoy reading this section like I'd read a detailed tech news site. I know that these same people also read the general section, so I can benefit from their input there.
Here, this section, this is their place to work! They share ideas here. They make things happen here. Aside from this post, I never want to clutter their desks, because I benefit so much from their hard work!
Is there any way to just make you guys permissible to post? Maybe you should have to be a dev to post? All can read, but devs would contact the mod to post? With a Discussion Thread linked in that environment, I could see a solution.
I still want to read. Its valuable. But aside from this post, I have no reason to write here. Butt every reason to watch progress, for my own education and to see what might be round the bend
anyone can be a dev. it just means u fixed a bug or made something happen thats what this section is for not hey can some1 help get you tube working or something like that.
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Hi everyone
I think we need an android q&a forum to keep this dev forum clean of spam and repetitive questions that are filling this place.
Does any body have an opinion on this?
bruce2728 said:
Hi everyone
I think we need an android q&a forum to keep this dev forum clean of spam and repetitive questions that are filling this place.
Does any body have an opinion on this?
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I believe it does not help too much since too many people can't seem to read/search the forums anyway. And they will keep on asking the same questions anyway, regardless where they are posed. I believe the non-developers should answer the simple questions so the devs can concentrate on their work.
I agree but if a new dev came along and saw the state of this forum i think they would be a put off joining in.
This is why the devs use skype and irc because this place is a mess
bruce2728 said:
Hi everyone
I think we need an android q&a forum to keep this dev forum clean of spam and repetitive questions that are filling this place.
Does any body have an opinion on this?
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if you're talking about a real forum, with different web address, it's a lot of work.
or maybe you are talking about creating a FAQ page:
if you create it here on the forum, only you will be able to edit it.
but instead, maybe you could create a WIKI page on the photon webpage, and refers to it everytime a n00b ask a question ?
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/w/list
i don't know if you have rights to create wiki page, if you don't, ask me or codiak/tzacapaca/schlund via pm
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if you're talking about a real forum, with different web address, it's a lot of work.
or maybe you are talking about creating a FAQ page:
if you create it here on the forum, only you will be able to edit it.
but instead, maybe you could create a WIKI page on the photon webpage, and refers to it everytime a n00b ask a question ?
http://code.google.com/p/photon-android/w/list
i don't know if you have rights to create wiki page, if you don't, ask me or codiak/tzacapaca/schlund via pm
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Thanks for your input, I think a faq thread probably the best way to go, I'll put something together and post it tonight.
I think we need a personal moderator to keep threads clear of spamming.....
+1 for Q&A section,i would like to see this forum the same as HD2 one,with different sections for different OS & stuff,maybe then people won't make mess in dev section
I've sent mod a pm to request a sub-forum if he says no I will post a faq thread here, if he says yes i will post it in q&a
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I've sent mod a pm to request a sub-forum if he says no I will post a faq thread here, if he says yes i will post it in q&a
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I'm sorry I did not see this until you wrote a comment
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I'm sorry I did not see this until you wrote a comment
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No problem mate, it was needed anyway
I'm seeing two general sections on main index page but they both link to 'HD MINI General' ????
Just wanted to pop in and say g'day, and thanks!
The forums are really helpful (as I found out while lurking) so I decided to sign up and see if I could contribute.
If I'm replying rather copiously, it's because I want to get to 10 posts so I can ask a question in the Dev area
Thanks! :laugh:
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Just wanted to pop in and say g'day, and thanks!
The forums are really helpful (as I found out while lurking) so I decided to sign up and see if I could contribute.
If I'm replying rather copiously, it's because I want to get to 10 posts so I can ask a question in the Dev area
Thanks! :laugh:
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You are not supposed to start a new thread in development unless you are sharing your work. If you have questions, ask in the q&a section. You can still reply to an existing thread in development.
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If you wanted to contribute to the forum, you should have thought about making a new thread for this kind of stupidity. Spamming the forum does not contribute in any way.
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capncoolio said:
Just wanted to pop in and say g'day, and thanks!
The forums are really helpful (as I found out while lurking) so I decided to sign up and see if I could contribute.
If I'm replying rather copiously, it's because I want to get to 10 posts so I can ask a question in the Dev area
Thanks! :laugh:
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Hello. Some people on XDA have a rod shoved up somewhere where the sun don't shine. If you have questions about any thread in the dev forum, try a search of that forum, and ask if you don't find the answer. Posting frequently is alright as long as you're contributing on some level, even for the sake of discussion about a relevant topic in that specific thread. Spam is usually a bad idea
Have fun and welcome to xda!
welcome to the party! please do not create a new thread in the dev section if you're not a dev. and your questions can be asked in the Q&A section. before you ask, make sure you use the search tool thoroughly. double posting is not acceptable here, if you want to, and i highly recommend, read this article: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263 Have a nice time here in xda!