A friend of mine has been nursing an old BlackBerry 8700G for many years now. Last week he decided to put it out to pasture and picked up a MyTouch 4G (due, in part, to my glowing review of the device).
He's not happy.
Some of his issues are the usual complaints which can be handled with a quick tutorial and a few tweaks here and there.
The real problem, though, is integration with Microsoft Sync in his 2009 Ford Escape.
The aged BlackBerry worked pretty much as expected with Sync but the MT4G does not. Making and receiving phone calls seems to work just fine but the SMS messaging features of Sync do not appear to be compatible with the MT4G.
This shouldn't matter, though, right? The "Genius Button" lets you send and receive SMS messages via voice control. Unfortunately, while he and I had both assumed that the Sync system would let him access all of the voice control features of the Genius Button (including full voice-control of SMS messages), we were mistaken. Sync doesn't seem to provide any mechanism for triggering a phone's built-in voice recognition system, thereby rendering the Genius Button features completely useless.
Now, I've never used Sync myself so I'm holding out hope that there is some kind of trick or software update that will get his setup working the way he wants it to work. Anybody know something about this that I don't or is he pretty much screwed?
Shouldn't have bought a Ford...
Sorry had to say it
I have SYNC in my 2010 Mustang, and to my knowledge it doesn't have the ability to forward a call button command to the phone like most Bluetooth headsets do. SYNC is more of a "command center" rather than a glorified BT headset in a car stereo, so it pulls in data and info from a variety of sources and you use the voice and button commands to access and control it. You would likely have to tell the car "Bluetooth Streaming" and have the phone playback information for you (unfortunately, the microphone won't forward anything so the handsfree profile will just tie that up).
If he's really, totally, and COMPLETELY hung up on that and still wants Android, I've read on the SYNC forums that the DROID, DROID 2, and DROID X all support SMS transmission through SYNC, including reading and replying. Of course, this might be mitigated by Gingerbread since it's supposed to be getting a new BT stack from what I've read. You know, or not.
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Question, do they actually have Sync working correctly with their devices? I have a MT4G and am trying to sync with my 2010 Ford F-150. The phone book starts to download and then quits half way through and then the bluetooth causes the phone to freeze up and gets completely screwy. My Vibrant and HD7 do great....the MT4G not so much.
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Question, do they actually have Sync working correctly with their devices? I have a MT4G and am trying to sync with my 2010 Ford F-150. The phone book starts to download and then quits half way through and then the bluetooth causes the phone to freeze up and gets completely screwy. My Vibrant and HD7 do great....the MT4G not so much.
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Mine works fine. My G2 would act strange with my Mustang until I figured out I had to disable WiFi before getting in the car. I'm not sure if it's just WiFi, or the WiFi calling app hanging or resetting the radio, but after doing that my SYNC system would download the phonebook and stay connected the whole time. My mT4G doesn't require this.
Edit: Just thought of this, but I'm using WiFi N at 5GHz at home now with the mT4G, whereas I was on 2.4GHz with my G2 and had the issues. Normally you get different radios for different frequencies, so I wonder if that's the case here.
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If anyone knows weather or not Nexus One (or even Android) fully supports Fiats Blue&Me system it would be great to get a reply.
We've been trying to find out for awhile but very limited on info.
Blue&Me is one of the best (if not the best) Voice/Text-To-Voice systems built into Fiat cars, and more car makers are signing up to it, so if anyone's able to test weather or not the SMS Reader & Voice calls (call + hang up) works with Blue&Me it would be brilliant.
I wouldn't count on it working. Android barely has file sending/receiving over bluetooth.
I'm not sure how tech savvy you are... If you are not already aware of it you should try and find which Bluetooth profiles are needed and which ones the N1 supports. That should be a good indication as to whether it will work or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile
it supports phonebook sync, a2dp, handsfree, surely that's all it needs? but do they work well together?
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it supports phonebook sync, a2dp, handsfree, surely that's all it needs? but do they work well together?
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Sounds like the calling would work, but weather SMS Reader function would work im not sure, seems only sony ericson have it pinned at the moment, WM6.5 doesnt, which i find a screw job considering Blue&Me is a Windows Mobile device.
I'm trying to get hold of a friend with an android phone, maybe i'll get a hint from that as to what works or not.
If anyone else can test it with a nexus one.. would be great
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Sounds like the calling would work, but weather SMS Reader function would work im not sure, seems only sony ericson have it pinned at the moment, WM6.5 doesnt, which i find a screw job considering Blue&Me is a Windows Mobile device.
I'm trying to get hold of a friend with an android phone, maybe i'll get a hint from that as to what works or not.
If anyone else can test it with a nexus one.. would be great
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how is the weather? it is raining here.
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how is the weather? it is raining here.
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Nice & sunny today....
All works except SMS Reader.
HTC Desire.
From what I recall, it needs the device to send sms over bluetooth. From all the speech to text, text to speech apps out there and the fact its based on open source kernel, I live in hope that someone will fix it ;-)
You don't need Blue&Me to have your SMS read - just use Tasker (http://tasker.dinglisch.net/).
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All works except SMS Reader.
HTC Desire.
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Hi 8eaker,
I've been trying to get my Desire to talk with my Alfa 159's Blue&Me+Nav system but no luck so far.
The phone keeps saying that the [bluetooth] connection is broken.
My car was last updated 3-4 months ago.
Did you get a more recent update maybe?
What make is your car?
Thanks!
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If anyone knows weather or not Nexus One (or even Android) fully supports Fiats Blue&Me system it would be great to get a reply.
We've been trying to find out for awhile but very limited on info.
Blue&Me is one of the best (if not the best) Voice/Text-To-Voice systems built into Fiat cars, and more car makers are signing up to it, so if anyone's able to test weather or not the SMS Reader & Voice calls (call + hang up) works with Blue&Me it would be brilliant.
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The weather shouldn't affect the N1's bluetooth.
How many Voice/Text-to-Voice systems are built into Fiat cars?
Everything except SMS reader work fine on a Fiat 500. No better or worse than my g1 was.
hey befunged would you please let me know if u got ur phone music playing through the car speakers, frankly i dont need the SMS reader, and i cant seem to get to work, the 500 sees my N1 as a handsfree as far as its concerned. but i would love more of it...please help really appreciate it.
I have a Fiat Punto EVO with Blue&Me and I am unable to get my Nexus ONE to stay paired.
I got it paired once and it worked briefly but than lost connection after several seconds.
Any have any ideas as I just bought the car expecting it to work with my phone
Blue and me just looks like a headset to the phone. You can't stream music over bluetooth. The limitation is with blue and me, not android.
You'd think fiat could provide an update but since they can't even display mp3 song names properly I wouldn't hold my breath
Hey All,
I have been scouring the web in hopes of answers and can find none. Evidently I'm not the only EVO owner in this boat either. I own a 2011 Ford Explorer with Sync & MyFord Touch (Fully updated). I pair the phone to the car it makes the connection fine. Begins the setup and sometimes will even connect and be recognized for a bit. But then the phone drops the bluetooth headset part of the connection. It appears (but I can't confirm) that Bluetooth streaming audio is still connected. There was a blissful 3 day window where it all just worked. Then it went to hell...... I saw one post where it said to switch the Bluetooth name back to "PC36100" and that didn't help. I saw another that said use a 4 digit pairing code and that didn't help either.
Its worth noting that I'm running Myn's Warm 2.2 rls5 with the stock & fully updated HTC kernel. So here's what I'm hoping to figure out:
*Have you had this issue with ANY car?
*Have you had this issue with Ford SYNC/MyFord Touch
*Aside from unpairing & repairing were you able to get around it?
*Is there a Kernel with a better bluetooth stack I should try?
Thanks for any help, many thanks will be given!
Unfortunately, the HTC bluetooth is totally worthless. I have a 2010 Ford Focus with Sync and it would connect and sometimes work for awhile, but people on the other line always complained of poor quality. And it wouldn't even connect all the time either. Lots of deleting and readding the phone.
Couple weeks ago I switch to CM7. Since CM has a bluetooth stack they built themselves and actually implemented correctly, I haven't had any problems pairing my phone. I can make calls, stream music, gps, etc and it is all fine. Always connects too. What is nice also is the audio will automatically stop if Google Navigation is giving directions or if someone calls. When I shut my car off and open the door, the audio stops and when I get back in it automatically starts again where it left off.
Basically if you want to use your Evo with a Ford Sync system, you'll need to run a version of CM.
Arg. I'm still waiting on my Explorer
On my 08 Explorer with Sync and Myn's RLS4, all is good. I turn BT off and make sure it is on before I turn the key. I stream audio constantly, and talk a bit. I literally just got around to putting on RLS5 today, haven't driven yet.
I partially agree with teamgreen02. It's HTC, not Ford. Does texting work with CM7? That would push me over the edge (or Explorer, pun intended)
It seems that there are a bunch of phones that have issues maintaining connectivity with the latest Sync system. I had to re-pair a BlackBerry to an '11 Explorer this afternoon. There is a backwards pairing procedure that may help rectify your issue. If you try searching for your phone from the vehicle instead of searching for sync from your phone, it has, in my experience, minimised connection drops, especially on the latest versions of Sync...
Btw, I am like the only tech at my dealership who really understands how to even pair phones to Sync, let alone diagnose the concerns our customers have described. There is also a system compatibility chart that we reference to determine if a particular device has been tested and verified to work with certain features of Sync. Last I checked (the October 2010 update) the Evo still wasn't certified compatible/tested...
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Does anyone have any updates on this? My wife's Sync is working fine with her Evo but the sound quality sucks when she calls. Her phone isn't rooted.
I did update the Sync software from v1 to 1.1 (She has a 2008 Ford Edge Limited) but need to do further updates to the system since there are updates available.
Here is my experience/.02.
My wife drives a 2011 Ford Edge with sync....she has a stock Evo4g. When she bought the car 2 months ago, bluetooth seemed to work fine...now she is having the exact same issues everyone else is having. The bluetooth connects/disconnects and just plain doesn't work. I attempted to fix it and.....no. If i unpair from both the car/phone then retry to connect them, it connects for a second and when it tries to send the phonebook from the phone to the car, the connection dies. The phone still displays that bluetooth audio (not phone) is connected.
I then tried my Evo 4g (CM7) on her car...no problems whatsoever. Sync'd and connected fine...phonebook transferred over in about 5 seconds and everything worked great.
To note, my Evo 4g also works perfectly on my 2011 Infiniti G37...
So I think my example further proves that HTC's bluetooth software is likely the causative agent and is likely junk....root or die i guess =p
hope this helps someone
I rooted and installed MIUI and dont have any problems yet with sync.
Although,
I was looking looking to pull the bluetooth stack of the droid X which has the MAP bluetooth profile, that will allow ford sync to read and write text messages for you.
any ideas on how to do this? Or where to find in in the droid X?
2010 Ford Focus here, works fine for me. Using Fresh 3.5.1.
The bluetooth stack should all be dependent on what kernel you are using on your rom, so if you already have it rooted, try to change kernels and see how it improves...
as far as the MAP profile, i found this thread in the Q&A section, and it also recommends pulling the MAP profile (for text messessaging) from the motorola droid kernels.
I wish i knew how to do this.
I was hoping for someone to be able to do this for us
EDIT: I also found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741332
its trying to get the MAP profile into the nexus one...
they found the new bluez stack had the MAP profile included:
http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2010-bluez/updates/list
I have not used sync in a long time in my 2010 escape, but I'm wondering if the text message function works as well. Any word on this?
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I have not used sync in a long time in my 2010 escape, but I'm wondering if the text message function works as well. Any word on this?
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No, the text messaging does not work for the unrooted Evo and it doesn't work for a rooted Evo under Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RL5.
I Just had a 2011 Explorer limited for the past week as a rental and it worked fine for me (music & calls). I know this does not help much hope you get it going.
i had my EVO running fresh 3.5 and worked great in my Escape, i just switched to twopointtwo ROM and now here i am looking for a solution, not sure if its the rom or the kernel since i switched both..
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i had my EVO running fresh 3.5 and worked great in my Escape, i just switched to twopointtwo ROM and now here i am looking for a solution, not sure if its the rom or the kernel since i switched both..
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got it working for a day but its disconnected again, im going to explain what i did hoping someone with more knowledge can help us SYNC users to connect bluetooth
used fresh EVO 3.5 for a while and worked great, then i got bored and changed rom to myn's warm 2.2 with the kernel included and bluetooth started disconnecting after 30 seconds or so...
i tried
ms79723's SBC for Netarchy's CFS More Aggressive 4.1.9.1 Kernel (v7)
Ziggy471 Warm TwoPointTwo RLS4 Kernel
they didnt work either... so heres the funny thing..
i wiped and reflashed a fresh version of the same rom (Myn´s warm 2.2), this time i didnt restore anything, no apps, no contacts, anything, left it clean.. then i paired it up and voila.. it worked for a long time in my ESCAPE, so i thought it was working and restored all my apps and data.. and to my frustration... its disconnecting again.
so does this have to do with the kernel or with some apps or what.
has anyone figured out how to get sync working with blue tooth messaging.
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has anyone figured out how to get sync working with blue tooth messaging.
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I don't think the android kernels have the message access protocol that is needed for this to work.
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2010 Ford Focus. Bluetooth sucked with stock ROM and warm, dropped connection all the time. Works great with CM7. Definitely an issue on the phone side and not the car in my case.
I am also wondering if we can somehow get the text messaging working. I don't think its officially supported on any Sprint phones.
2010 Moutaineer here - never had a problem with Bluetooth on rooted stock EVO ROM.
Listen to music all the time - even the "call-transfer" functionality works fine when I enter the vehicle while talking on the phone.
Only thing is - I wish the damned thing would auto-synch for media-audio on Aux1 instead of me having to select the source all the time - anyone know how to do this?
2010 Lincoln with mytouch/sync and rooted with stock rom. No problems at all. Sometimes it gets a little static sound but I just turn my Bluetooth off then back on.
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Think the problem lies with the Sense BT stack.
My HTC Magic's bluetooth is fairly unreliable. Rarely sometimes can it either send or receive files using bluetooth. It was like that when it came with the stock TMobile Android 1.5 rom and with CM6.1. I was sure that flashing cyanogenmod would fix that but it doesn't look like that. When I try to send a file to it from anything else (laptop, SGS) the backlight behind the home, menu, back and search button blinks for a second and then dies. I have tried this with no luck: https://market.android.com/details?id=it.medieval.blueftp&feature=search_result . I'm really surprised this is so hard to figure out since my former 6 year old sony ericsson feature phone could do this no problem (although my SGS has no issues).
I just checked out the app mentioned above's market website and discovered there was a widget that went to it. I put the widget on the desktop and figured out that you have to enable the receiver service through the widget first before turning on the bluetooth. Now it works perfectly. Just wondering though: how come my SGS doesn't need this app to run its bluetooth properly?
Hey everyone, I currently own a Ford Fiesta which has Sync. I'm trying to shed some light regarding MTP(USB) and Ford Sync.
So far, my research shows that the Galaxy Nexus which introduced MTP, people would have their playlist get stuck at "Indexing" and you were not able to sync through USB (Bluetooth pairing works fine).
I've tried the regular methods of, factory resetting SYNC and doing a master reset on my car. Anyone have better experience with this situation? Advice?
As a background, the only music I have is Google Music. I currently have a couple albums in my device but the rest are uploaded. Tomorrow morning I'm going to try updating my software (which I believe is already up to date) but worth a shot. I have the Nexus 4 running (Android 4.2 [doy!])
Help would be greatly appreciated!
xRef: reddit ref
Selfless BUMP.
If this doesn't work is there anyway I can make a (Music)folder partitioned so that it will mount ?
I know currently there's not MTP to USB Mass Storage mode :/ but there has to be a way to get this working
How good is the Nexus 4 working with Sync? Anything to look out for or any tips you can provide? Gonna be trying it with my Ford soon. What works and what doesn't work?
I happen to have a Fiesta with sync... I've never tried plugging my N4 into it, though... I either just stream Pandora (get the Pandora app link if you haven't yet; it's awesome!) or play music from my thumb drive. If you'd like, I can give it a try in my car and see if I get any other results.
BTW, does your phone work with text messaging?
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How good is the Nexus 4 working with Sync? Anything to look out for or any tips you can provide? Gonna be trying it with my Ford soon. What works and what doesn't work?
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Pretty good... the sound quality is noticeably worse than my older phone, though, but it's not too bad. Pairing is a lot quicker I've noticed. Text messaging doesn't work, however... I know only a few phones do, though.
I'm just curious if you can get all the wireless Bluetooth functionality that Ford Sync claims? Such as reading of incoming text messages, voice activated calling, things like that. Does it work for you? I'm guessing by your question that text messaging does not work, sadly.
Here's a summary of my experience.
-Currently, MTP on the Nexus 4 makes USB Audio not sync, so you can't play music through USB (You'll get stuck at Indexing FOREVER).
-Bluetooth Audio works pretty well however you won't get info such as Artist, Song name, etc.
-Streaming audio through bluetooth doesn't let you do "Play Artist XXX or Play Song XXX" that USB Audio CAN provide.
-With that said, like someone said above me, you can use a USB thumb drive just fine to play a bunch of songs. If you have a Ford Fiesta 2012, there's a secret Secondary USB2 for developers which works PERFECTLY fine. (http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/ice-car-entertainment/31647-second-usb-port-19.html)
-Sync can read your messages once it does come in but you have to press OK a couple of times.
-The Sync Messaging system is TERRIBLE. You cannot reply with a custom message. You always have to use preset ones. I really wish someone is able to hack the sync button to call Google Now or something.. that would be AWESOME.
-Using Pandora App Link works pretty well, you can skip tracks and pause it's awesome.
-Sync Services can be pretty useful. I recommend using downloading an app called Send To Car, which lets you go on google maps, type a location or business address and "share" it to Send to Car which then sends it to your car so you can navigate.
Sync isn't perfect, but it has an even share of good and bad. If you're in to buying a Ford Fiesta, I recommend holding off for the 2014 version which will support MyFord Touch. This actually allows AVRCP1.3 so you can stream audio track names etc through bluetooth.
Thanks for the information!
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I really wish someone is able to hack the sync button to call Google Now or something.. that would be AWESOME.
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I agree, now that would be great.
Shameless bump.
So I found out today my friend's S3 is able to stream music through USB in his Ford. According to my car forums as well iPhone 5 users are able to do the same on SYNC capable cars. :/ I know these phones incorporate MTP style storage so why can't my Nexus 4 do it ): .
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Here's a summary of my experience.
-Currently, MTP on the Nexus 4 makes USB Audio not sync, so you can't play music through USB (You'll get stuck at Indexing FOREVER).
-Bluetooth Audio works pretty well however you won't get info such as Artist, Song name, etc.
-Streaming audio through bluetooth doesn't let you do "Play Artist XXX or Play Song XXX" that USB Audio CAN provide.
-With that said, like someone said above me, you can use a USB thumb drive just fine to play a bunch of songs. If you have a Ford Fiesta 2012, there's a secret Secondary USB2 for developers which works PERFECTLY fine. (http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/ice-car-entertainment/31647-second-usb-port-19.html)
-Sync can read your messages once it does come in but you have to press OK a couple of times.
-The Sync Messaging system is TERRIBLE. You cannot reply with a custom message. You always have to use preset ones. I really wish someone is able to hack the sync button to call Google Now or something.. that would be AWESOME.
-Using Pandora App Link works pretty well, you can skip tracks and pause it's awesome.
-Sync Services can be pretty useful. I recommend using downloading an app called Send To Car, which lets you go on google maps, type a location or business address and "share" it to Send to Car which then sends it to your car so you can navigate.
Sync isn't perfect, but it has an even share of good and bad. If you're in to buying a Ford Fiesta, I recommend holding off for the 2014 version which will support MyFord Touch. This actually allows AVRCP1.3 so you can stream audio track names etc through bluetooth.
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Hi darkamikaze,
Can you let me know what version of Ford Sync you are running? I'm going to guess it's an non-MyFord Touch system, which seems to have more support for the Bluetooth MAP profile.
I've got a Nexus 4 on order, and running the latest MyFord Touch system. I will report back if this seems to work any better.
Yes I have the Gen1 on my Fiesta'12 which I know for a fact will never get the better bluetooth profile which allows media info to be passed along to my fiesta's dash.
Still unfortunate that I can't get the damn USB-To-Nexus 4 working -_-; Forever stuck at indexing.
Just for everyone's information:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/ford-looks-to-go-the-android-route-with-its-sync-applink-system/
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130108/CARNEWS/130109897
https://developer.ford.com/
It would be interesting to eventually see an app to interface with Google Now. Additionally, I believe that Ford Sync systems use the i.MX516 ARM with processorWEIMX: Windows® Embedded for i.MX Applications Processor. I could be wrong about the OS though. It would be cool if they made the OS code open source, imagine the possibilities.
That is fantastic news! I'm gonna try to dive into this right now!
Please let us know...
Another thing beside music is the calling feature. When I receive a call and wanted to take it on private then I should answer from the phone not the wheel button nor the dashboard screen but when I do so the call would still trans to the car audio. When I used blackberry before I used to answer from wheel/dashboard for car audio call OR I could answer from the phone to have a private call on the handset.
Any thoughts?
EDIT: I have a 2011 Ford F-150 Harley-Davidson
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I picked my car up on Wednesday. I've not tried my N4 with it via Bluetooth Audio yet as I have a 32gb USB Drive doing nothing so I've just put that in there.
The only issue I'm having is getting Text Messaging working with my N4. It just says that the Nexus 4 does not support this feature. I've looked around and found people mentioning the MAP Profile setting but I can't find it anywhere. My only guess is that this setting doesn't exist on the UK Version which is built in to the new Fiesta.
People from the UK can't even register on Syncmyride.com
Using Services (Sending Location)
Is anyone else here having an issue with Ford Sync Services & their Nexus 4s? Specifically, I have a Ford Fiesta with the latest Sync SW, and every time I use Services (for instance to get directions or to find out traffic), it says it can't find my location.
Just want to rule out that it's the phone that's the problem- so has anyone successfully done this with their N4s?
Thanks!
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I picked my car up on Wednesday. I've not tried my N4 with it via Bluetooth Audio yet as I have a 32gb USB Drive doing nothing so I've just put that in there.
The only issue I'm having is getting Text Messaging working with my N4. It just says that the Nexus 4 does not support this feature. I've looked around and found people mentioning the MAP Profile setting but I can't find it anywhere. My only guess is that this setting doesn't exist on the UK Version which is built in to the new Fiesta.
People from the UK can't even register on Syncmyride.com
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Trying to help some one in the States with the same problem... They have a 2013 Ford Focus + Nexus 4... The Nexus 4 pairs with MyTouch Sync just fine.. But for messaging it says the device aka Nexus 4 is not compatible with Bluetooth Messaging.... Been trying to find ow to activate or check if MAP Profile allows for Bluetooth Messaging...
I am wondering if the 4.2.2 update will address any of the BT profile problems... ( Never mind.. Seems Google hasn't fix any of the BT problems with 4.2.2... WTF Google..)
PM me if u find a solution.. I'll do the same...
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Trying to help some one in the States with the same problem... They have a 2013 Ford Focus + Nexus 4... The Nexus 4 pairs with MyTouch Sync just fine.. But for messaging it says the device aka Nexus 4 is not compatible with Bluetooth Messaging.... Been trying to find ow to activate or check if MAP Profile allows for Bluetooth Messaging...
I am wondering if the 4.2.2 update will address any of the BT profile problems... ( Never mind.. Seems Google hasn't fix any of the BT problems with 4.2.2... WTF Google..)
PM me if u find a solution.. I'll do the same...
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All I've found is that the Nexus 4 lacksthe BT MAP Profile which is required by Sync to use Text Messaging. Samsung devices on the other hand have the BT MAP Profile, so my girlfriends phone works fine with it.
CM 10.1 supposedly has the profile but it's broken. I've been checking the nightlies but no one has fixed it yet. If I knew what I was doing I'd have a go at porting the profile over from a samsung device myself.
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All I've found is that the Nexus 4 lacksthe BT MAP Profile which is required by Sync to use Text Messaging. Samsung devices on the other hand have the BT MAP Profile, so my girlfriends phone works fine with it.
CM 10.1 supposedly has the profile but it's broken. I've been checking the nightlies but no one has fixed it yet. If I knew what I was doing I'd have a go at porting the profile over from a samsung device myself.
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I also have been trying CM 10.1 to get MAP working so I can access text messages on MyFord Touch in my Focus. Just updated to CM 10.1 RC2 and it still isn't working for me.
I just want to know whose hare-brained idea it was to eliminate UMS from Android in the first place.
Both my N4 and my wife's SGS3 (i747) get stuck at "INDEXING" forever when plugging into Sync in our 2012 Fusion. She actually switched back to her HTC Vivid because of it.
Here's to hoping 10.1 final will restore UMS functionality.
I had the "indexing forever problem" when I first tried USB with nexus 4.I noticed that a couple minutes in the phone would show "media.process has stopped". What I did was clear the USB mass storage cache. Settings>apps>all>media storage>clear cache. Then no problems. Sync finished indexing in a minute and media voice control works fine. I use syncmyitunes to add music. When I first had problems I deleted all music on phone and added only one song to the music folder to index the first time. This might help also. Now after all this, sync occasionally states it has detected a new device and indexes again. Usually this is when I forget to plug in the phone BEFORE starting the car. Hope this helps someone.
There are some very old threads about this - but this is now, pretty certainly, a general stock android 4.3/4 problem with "older" car hands-free systems. My kit is a Galaxy Note with OmniROM right up to date. My car is an Opel/Vauxhall Zaphira with a Navi 900 onboard computer. However there are threads on many android forums complaining of the same symptoms for "pure" stock 4.3/4 devices (e.g. the Nexus range, including the Samsung Galaxy Nexus) and a variety of cars, and all describing the same workaround (and a few lamenting that Google haven't been very responsive in addressing the problem). The symptoms and workaround are:
The car recognizes and "partially" pairs with the phone
However, the contacts list and call lists are empty and the phone cannot be controlled from the car, neither for incoming calls nor for outgoing calls (dialing from the car interface always gives a failed message, while trying to receive or hangup from the interface just plain fails).
Calls using the phone work, and show up on the car interface, always as "Unknown" (not surprisingly - it doesn't have the contacts list)
HOWEVER if, after this "partial" pairing up, I make a 30-45 second call using just the phone itself, then, after the call has terminated, contacts and call lists are properly available through the car interface and the phone can be fully controlled from that interface (and, of course, the FIRST time this happens, I get the notification on the phone telling me the car wants this information, which, of course, I confirm)
A workaround like that can be scripted with something like "Tasker" and using, say, my voice mail number (with my provider here in France, plain fake number calls don't stay online long enough for the above to work).
But does ANYONE have any idea where to start looking for the root cause and possible solutions, or have any theories on those points?
EDIT:
Just to be clear - the workaround "make a call from the phone" trick has to be done every time the phone and car reconnect, not just the first time.
Had this happen in my ford the other day and it's sync system.
The fix for me was a not so visible notification upon establishing the Bluetooth pairing in the notification tray asking if I wanted to allow for my phonebook to be downloaded. Clicked yes and everything set up as normal.
Mgd_toronto said:
Had this happen in my ford the other day and it's sync system.
The fix for me was a not so visible notification upon establishing the Bluetooth pairing in the notification tray asking if I wanted to allow for my phonebook to be downloaded. Clicked yes and everything set up as normal.
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I got that notification AFTER I had done the "make a call from the phone" trick, not before.
I should also point out that the "make a call from the phone" trick has to be done every time I want to reconnect to the phone to the car (while the notification only appeared the first time I did the trick - because subsequently the phone and the car "trust" each other).
Aside from maybe unpairing and trying to set it up again which I am certain something you've probably already tried; have you checked the cars firmware?
Could also try resetting your Vauxhall's system as well in case there is a gremlin in there causing a hang up with the sync.
Again with Fords sync I have had to do it a few times over the years when the systems been misbehaving with the Bluetooth and it fixed it.
Mgd_toronto said:
Aside from maybe unpairing and trying to set it up again which I am certain something you've probably already tried; have you checked the cars firmware?
Could also try resetting your Vauxhall's system as well in case there is a gremlin in there causing a hang up with the sync.
Again with Fords sync I have had to do it a few times over the years when the systems been misbehaving with the Bluetooth and it fixed it.
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Indeed I did the resets. And yes, possibly, an upgrade of firmware MIGHT fix it, but these problems don't occur with Android 4.1.n (or, I, believe 4.2.n).
I've logged a bug with the OminROM developers, but would like some pointers so I myself can start looking at solutions and fixes.
Hmm... Unfortunately I don't know who to assign that JIRA bug to.
Problem is - none of us own vehicle headunits that we can reproduce/test this problem on. I used to have a Sony MEX-BT2500 (technically I still do...) but since I sold my old convertible it just sits and collects dust.
I would agree that this will be a difficult one to find. It reminds me of working with 802.11b/g with it's dozens of "pre-draft" variants that just didn't interoperate properly.
If you wanted to dig into this yourself, the first place I'd look is https://github.com/omnirom/android_external_bluetooth_bluedroid and its upstream and parallel variants. That is the code that generally handles the upper-level Bluetooth management functions.
Edit -- Also worth looking at https://source.android.com/devices/bluetooth.html if you want an overview of how Android implements Bluetooth.
The comments on commits there might also be worth reading through. For example
https://github.com/omnirom/android_...mmit/73ce8ab2ddd30cab6499d0062c46b3a16f9130a9
Fact is however, that the use of SDP features value for peer_features
is new since Android 4.2 and breaks existing good behavior on a BMW
2005/E46 car kit (navi professional). This kit never asks for AT+CHLD
and never via AT commands suggests it supports 3WAY (although it seems
to have the flag set via SDP).
Not the same issue, but there might be clues of that nature in the commit messages.