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We just bought an '08 Altima with the bluetooth option. I can pair the XV6800 with no problem, but quality sucks. It is super choppy on my end and the person on the other end can't hear me at all. I tried my wifes XV6800, same thing. I can pair my old E815 and it works perfectly, so it's not the car. I tried a hard reset, no difference.
I tried loading dcd's clean rom 1.6.7, no difference. Is the BT stack upgraded in this rom?
Is there a newer BT stack out there that I could try?
Its worth downloading and trying the Jetware BT Extensions and see if that helps....but usually it does not change quality so much as enable functionality.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
Brad
Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't help.
Developer help with Infiniti/Nissan Bluetooth?
I've got the exact same issue with an '07 Infiniti G35 w/navigation. I've been doing lots of reading on the xv6800's bluetooth, have tried DCD's and Custel's roms, and was just about to start my own thread, but I'll bet our cars are the same bluetooth/rom wise.
Jetware didn't help me either.
Here's the best fix I've found and it works for me consistently.
-Whence the option's available depending on whether you're dialing out or receiving, click the "use handset" button (transfers call to the xv6800).
-Shortly after press the "phone" button (transfers call back through car).
-Should work as expected after that.
Anyway, at this point I'm hoping one of the kind devs on this forum (DCD or Custel to name just two of many) might find a sec to help us out, although I'm aware and appreciate the fact that many other users are keeping them very busy on their own projects.
I'm assuming the xv6800's hardware would be most similar to other HTC pda phones (not sure what happens between GSM and CDMA devices), so here's a list of their phones who's bluetooth does work with my car (from here). It supports the bluetooth in 144 phones total.
Kaiser (wasn't working with stock rom, but works after this patch from HTC)
Hermes
Atlas
Wizard
Apache
Magician
Harrier
HTC pda phones that don't work with my car (at least not 100%).
Vogue
Elf
Titan
The Titan DOES work with an '07-'08 Infiniti G35 WITHOUT navigation (buy more, get less ).
In addition to the stock Verizon rom I've tried DCD's 1.6.1, 1.6.7, and Custel's 1.1 with no change in the symptoms.
It's my understanding the dev community thinks modding the Vogue's bluetooth for the Titan shows the most promise. I found this thread mentioning an alternative, but it seems to have gone stale on another forum. I'd prefer not to use that forum.
I understand the Vogue's bluetooth might show the most promise for general bluetooth applications (which would satisfy the most users), but becuase I plan to use bluetooth solely through this car, does anyone know if I might be able to go an easier route given the information I've provided?
I'm using radio 1.40.00, could 1.47.01 make a difference?
Can anything be learned through HTC's Kaiser update patch?
Are there any bluetooth alternatives being tested that I haven't found?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
OK. I tried what you said and confirm the same results on the '08 Altima. If I switch to handset and back to Bluetooth, the sound is clear (weird). The only problem is, I can't switch until a call is in progress. This is a work around, but not a good one. We need a BT stack that fixes this. Or maybe firmware upgrade from the auto manufacturer.
I know this is going to sounds like a cheap shot, but it sounds to me like something needs to be fixed on Nissan's side. I've tried mine in an Accura without any problem, however both of your stereos are manufactured by Nissan.
A word of advice: I always found that auto makers should stick to what they do- namely, make cars. If Nissan were so great at BT stereos, you'd see nissan headsets.
I never bother with factory Bluetooth anymore- I swapped my stereo right away for a decent Sony Xplod system that supports A2DP (wireless stereo) as well as phone calls. The aftermarket stereo not only sounds great, but I play all my music from my phone without taking it out of my pocket. Last I checked, no stock car stereos supported this. Sony is good at stereo and bluetooth (been around the block a few times).
Complain to Nissan. Or swap your stereo for something decent.
My Sprint 6700 with BigJ Rom works great with the 08 Altima. In the fact the audio quality is better than the Sanyo Katana that I also have paired. I am dispointed that I cannt answer calls from both phones on the car headset without first selecting the phone that has an incoming call. Even my At&T home phone with bluetooth can do that although it does require you to select a cellphone for outgoing calls.
I was able to upload a contact entry from my 6700 to the car Download phonebook. However, I can not get that into the more usable phonebook directory. Anyone succeed in doing that?
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My Sprint 6700 with BigJ Rom works great with the 08 Altima.
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You might be in the wrong forum. The Titan is a 6800, not a 6700.
yes, but this thread is discussing the Altima BT stereo. Truthfully, this whole thread should go in a more general BT forum, since I don't think it pertains to the 6800 exactly.
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Just wanted to say thanks to Park City for posting the name of the web site with the bluetooth extentions (jetwaremobile.com). I have just recently purchased an 08 Altima with the Nav system and bluetooth. I have an Tmobile MDA with a cooked ROM running WM6 and I could not get the entire outlook phone book to download to the car. Once I installed the jetware mobile extentions everything worked just fine. I even got some additional functionality I was not expecting like signal strengh and battery status on the nav srceen. As for voice quality, it's never been an issue for me. So far anyway
As I can see, they are currently testing the Mogul with both of your cars. I don't know what they mean by 'testing', but that's what is going on right now.
http://www.nissanusa.com/bluetooth/...gation+System&mfg=All+Manufacturers&x=51&y=16
http://www.infiniti.com/bluetooth/t...igation+System&mfg=All+Manufacturers&x=42&y=9
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As I can see, they are currently testing the Mogul with both of your cars.
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I saw that too, but I don't have a lot of confidence they'll be releasing a bluetooth update any time soon. That's why I was hoping the Titan's bluetooth hardware might be similar enough to the hardware in one of the devices that DO work with our cars (Kaiser, etc., list in my earlier post) that their bluetooth software could be ported "easily" to the Titan. I'm sure the devs here are trying to get the Titan's bluetooth to work as well as possible for everyone's devices, which makes sense. However, with California's new "handsfree driving" law starting July '08, I'm only concerned with getting the Titan to work with my car.
Apparently no one's too sure if that's possible.
1. have any of you verified first hand that the kaiser does in fact work?
2. could someone research and identify the bt hardware in the kaiser, and the titan?
3. has anyone run the kaiser bt fix on their titan and tried it?
i suppose i never thought to look at the kaiser's bt. mine still functions after applying that kaiser patch..
the kaiser patch is a replacement TIInit_4_2_38.bts file
this file did not exist in any titan roms prior to 2.16
2.16 introduced this file (i compared md5 and its not the same data)
2.17, htcs supposed 'fix', does NOT contain this file
all vogue roms i have seen DO contain this file, but again its different data
maybe you guys are on to something
i will throw something together tomorrow probably...drinking time.
dcd, thanks for the help, enjoy those drinks!
1. Not first hand, I'm going off this post. That thread's also why I believe the Kaiser wasn't working with the car before the patch.
2. I've spent a lot of time trying, but have come up empty on any detailed hardware specs.
3. I just ran the Kaiser patch and the bluetooth functions the same as it does without the patch.
I'm using a rom from your 1.6.7 kitchen with nothing else added (rom's working great, btw). I had the same issue with the stock Verizon rom.
Crazy thought, but if the cooked rom I'm using is based on a stock rom that didn't originally include the .bts file (2.17), could it be being ignored?
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good enough for me
Crazy thought, but if the cooked rom I'm using is based on a stock rom that didn't originally include the .bts file (2.17), could it be being ignored?
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maybe...i dont know how the file functions and ties into the others yet
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The Titan DOES work with an '07-'08 Infiniti G35 WITHOUT navigation (buy more, get less ).
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i take it they are completely different head units?
I have a 07 G35 WITH Navi and yes, the quality is choppy when I connect my phone to it. I have been just using my Platronics Discover 640 for the BT these days... It'd be nice if someone can come up with a solution for this...
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i take it they are completely different head units?
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They're pretty different. With nav you get a 10 gig hd it'll rip cd's to, the nav runs off that hd, the gui which controls much of the car is different, voice prompts are different, the available buttons are different (see attached pics), and you lose a cd changer. I do know first hand that w/o nav the bt works great with an XV6800 (got a loaner once). Again, I've been unable to find out what's specifically different hardware wise (even with the full service manual).
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I have a 07 G35 WITH Navi and yes, the quality is choppy when I connect my phone to it.
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Is choppy quality your only problem? Are your symptoms different from ours in my earlier post?
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They're pretty different. With nav you get a 10 gig hd it'll rip cd's to, the nav runs off that hd, the gui which controls much of the car is different, voice prompts are different, the available buttons are different (see attached pics), and you lose a cd changer. I do know first hand that w/o nav the bt works great with an XV6800 (got a loaner once). Again, I've been unable to find out what's specifically different hardware wise (even with the full service manual).
Is choppy quality your only problem? Are your symptoms different from ours in my earlier post?
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Once connected, I get a really static noise from my end while in the conversation. Of course, it'a really not usable at all....
I'm going to try the reconnecting method that was mentioned above today. I'll come back and report the outcome. And thanks for the help BTW.
EDIT: BTW, my Wizard (Cingy 8125), Hermes (Cingy 8525), Samsung i760, and few of the Moto handsets are all fine paired to my car. MAYBE, someone can get the BT stack from Hermes to work with the Titan?
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They're pretty different. With nav you get a 10 gig hd it'll rip cd's to
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whoa, someone hook me up with a G35 to uh, test
Wizard (Cingy 8125), Hermes (Cingy 8525), Samsung i760, and few of the Moto handsets are all fine paired to my car. MAYBE, someone can get the BT stack from Hermes to work with the Titan?
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well, peices of it maybe. i would blindly guess that the kaiser is closer to titan than hermes, but we need to exactly identify the bt chip in each. plus its still shady then, ie the kaiser has tnetw1251 for wlan same as the titan and I cannot get their newer wlan driver to work on my device.
what we really need to look at is previous bt stack modifications for other devices. i need a better understanding of tiinit_blah. I've also noticed that the devices that work have a more extensive, or a 2nd audiopara file that sets values for some bt devices. to be completely honest right now i dont know what im looking at and i need to figure out how it all fits together before i know where to start.
Well, I tried reconnect method from both phone and the car, but neither did anything at all. The quality is still crappy as heck. Man... I reallly wish this works.
EDIT: Actually my side of the speaker was complete static, and the other side could not hear what I was saying AT ALL. This efing blows.
Bluetooth has been available on mobile phones for almost 10 years
My shiny new Hero which I consider to be an excellent piece of work is pretty useless in this department....file transfers hands free connection etc
If a phone that costs £30 from tescos can do this why cant the £400 quid hero?
Why is android incapable of this extremely basic functionality? Why are android phones on sale at all? the OS is not finished and will not be untill Bluetooth just works.
I have pissed off several friends by recomending this phone pre release assuming that the bluetooth profiles had been fixed on the hero. But if they cant send mates in the pub a photo of a friend falling over or use their hands free kits how can I blame them?
Is there a timescale for adding working bluetooth to android?
Ask Google. They're the ones that only programmed handsfree profiles in. Apparently it's supposed to be fairly soon.
Also, you know what they say about assuming.....
but yeah, it's a bit of a glaring omission. but then didn't the iphone do exactly the same when it first came out?
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Ask Google. They're the ones that only programmed handsfree profiles in. Apparently it's supposed to be fairly soon.
Also, you know what they say about assuming.....
but yeah, it's a bit of a glaring omission. but then didn't the iphone do exactly the same when it first came out?
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Don't just blame Google tho... Android is open source and the Hero's version is a seperate dev branch to the cupcake 1.5 thats on standard 'Google' phones. I mean they must have fiddled with it anyway as some things that worked on the standard 1.5 build don't work on the Hero.
So HTC are just as much to blame for this... what can we call it... oversight...
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So HTC are just as much to blame for this... what can we call it... oversight...
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No they are not! The reason that this functionality is not available is because the Bluetooth APIs have not be finalized. Whilst potentially HTC could have added their own, this would have fragmented Android as an OS and this is definitely not the way forward.
Unfortunately, Apple showed that the market will accept reduced functionality in devices, when they shipped the original iPhone.
However, with respect to Google, I fully agree that nearly a year down the line since the G1 was launched, they should've got further than they have with Bluetooth support.
Regards,
Dave
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No they are not! The reason that this functionality is not available is because the Bluetooth APIs have not be finalized. Whilst potentially HTC could have added their own, this would have fragmented Android as an OS and this is definitely not the way forward.
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The Android OS will become fragmented, Android is designed that way it's supposed to be a base on which mobile phone manufactures can build upon. It's also the reason you get "with Google" phones, if you want a pure Android OS those are the phones you buy.
HTC should have seized the opportunity to fix some of the glaring ommisions from Android, epecially considering that there is no indication that any more bluetooth profiles are included in donut.
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Ask Google. They're the ones that only programmed handsfree profiles in. Apparently it's supposed to be fairly soon.
Also, you know what they say about assuming.....
but yeah, it's a bit of a glaring omission. but then didn't the iphone do exactly the same when it first came out?
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I say assume, but HTC posted bluetooth profiles on the android community as GAP SPP HSP HFP A2DP and AVRCP profile, so where are they?
I admiit I should have checked for OBEX, I was probably caught up in the hype, and the oooos and arghhs of the reviews, perhaps the reveiwers should have started with..... erm this phone does not work before we parted with our hard earned. Shame on you engadget
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I say assume, but HTC posted bluetooth profiles on the android community as GAP SPP HSP HFP A2DP and AVRCP profile, so where are they?
I admiit I should have checked for OBEX, I was probably caught up in the hype, and the oooos and arghhs of the reviews, perhaps the reveiwers should have started with..... erm this phone does not work before we parted with our hard earned. Shame on you engadget
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Just get BlueX and use one of the many methods to root the phone, then you'll have full send/receive bluetooth capabilities. It's very easy.
does bluex actually work on the hero? and is it one of the ones that seems to be hidden on some hero devices?
Didn't know that HTC had put those profiles out there...but if they're just in beta or being tested, then i am sure they'll be here soon.
and besides, the base android build on the hero is the same as on the magic, it's just had a few kernel changes for any hero specific hardware, it's still running 1.5.
i personally knew the device had no obex, and still got it. I suppose it's each to their own really. Millions of people got the iphone and were rabid about how wonderful it was even though it was missing some basic features. i bet hero will have the same kinda people, on both sides of the argument.
i like it and am happy, but am certainly not going to defend the missing features, i just rely on the fact that as i am happy with it as it is, anything extra is a bonus.....
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does bluex actually work on the hero? and is it one of the ones that seems to be hidden on some hero devices?
Didn't know that HTC had put those profiles out there...but if they're just in beta or being tested, then i am sure they'll be here soon.
and besides, the base android build on the hero is the same as on the magic, it's just had a few kernel changes for any hero specific hardware, it's still running 1.5.
i personally knew the device had no obex, and still got it. I suppose it's each to their own really. Millions of people got the iphone and were rabid about how wonderful it was even though it was missing some basic features. i bet hero will have the same kinda people, on both sides of the argument.
i like it and am happy, but am certainly not going to defend the missing features, i just rely on the fact that as i am happy with it as it is, anything extra is a bonus.....
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I for one have not beeen able to get Bluex to work on Hero neither Root explorer????
Ok (Grits teeth)
Still love the phone would still buy it (friends probably wont till bluetooth fixed) would have liked a choice on the bluetooth though.
If the reviewers were paying more attention to the bluetooth deficiency I am sure google would be urgently fixing it!
Guess will have to wait. Please dont hesitate to let us all know when you find out they've fixed it
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The Android OS will become fragmented, Android is designed that way it's supposed to be a base on which mobile phone manufactures can build upon.
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Yes it is - and the bluetooth APIs are part of that base!
Google were very specific about why they chose not to ship Android with broken APIs (see http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-information-on-apis-removed-in.html ). If HTC had "done their own thing" they too would have been committed to support this for years to come.
As a developer, personally I'd be happy to wait for a single fit-for-purpose API to come to Android, than support a wide variety of vendor-specific extensions.
If Android wants to gain serious traction in the Smartphone market, they need to look at Apple and the iPhone. Here you've a single software and hardware platform which is going to make application development far simpler.
It is ok to build on top of the Android platform (as you said yourself), but if each handset vendor goes about changing the underlying nuts and bolts differently this will adversely affect market acceptance of the platform.
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Dave
so bluetooth does not work on shipped devices?
it works on the htcmagic hero rom but not on the dream hero rom. hack
i wonder why
bluetooth works, but only for headsets.
maybe the magic rom has bluex installed, as i know bluex works on the magic, but not on the hero
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bluetooth works, but only for headsets.
maybe the magic rom has bluex installed, as i know bluex works on the magic, but not on the hero
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Hero supports a few more profiles than just headsets.
From the HTC website:
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What Bluetooth profiles are supported?
The phone supports Bluetooth Headset, Handsfree, A2DP, and AVRCP profiles. You can connect your phone to a Bluetooth hands-free headset or a Bluetooth car kit and use those devices to listen to music and send and/or receive calls. Transferring files between your phone and PC using Bluetooth is not yet supported.
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We won't see file transfer or OBEX until Google finalize the bluetooth APIs.
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Dave
puckoon said:
I have pissed off several friends by recomending this phone pre release assuming that the bluetooth profiles had been fixed on the hero. But if they cant send mates in the pub a photo of a friend falling over or use their hands free kits how can I blame them?
Is there a timescale for adding working bluetooth to android?
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Agree about the file transfer (although its a smartphone so use flikr/twitter)
As for handsfree I am using just fine with my Parrot MKi9200 car kit. Full handsfree and A2DP Stereo support with controls. Full address book sync etc.
So apart from file transfer its got a full set of useful features.
Russ
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Agree about the file transfer (although its a smartphone so use flikr/twitter)
As for handsfree I am using just fine with my Parrot MKi9200 car kit. Full handsfree and A2DP Stereo support with controls. Full address book sync etc.
So apart from file transfer its got a full set of useful features.
Russ
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How did you get the address book to sync, I thought this didn't work, and it doesn't seem to with my Alpine kit. Did you install bluex?
The Bluetooth kit in my Land Rover Discovery 3 can pull the contacts list off my Hero and also notify me of who is calling in the head unit.
Pretty sure its not been pulled off my Nokia N85 when I used that as there is no storage in the kit as far as I am aware.
Its also just to note - a Nokia kit sourced / OEM'd by Land Rover and is the standard Bluetooth PTI they factory build.
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How did you get the address book to sync, I thought this didn't work, and it doesn't seem to with my Alpine kit. Did you install bluex?
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No, I have the same car kit, it just works as is from the box.
Hi,
I was a bit confused by this thread and all the bluetooth problems. At the moment I have a Touch Diamond but I am up for an upgrade in the next month so I am looking at either the Diamond 2 or the Hero. I have a Sony BTNX20 stereo BT headset that i use for everything, Will I still be able to use this headset for stereo music on the Hero? Also what video files can it play? Or is there something like Core Player available that will play everything? A bit off topic but i thought id ask since i had a bluetooth question!
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Hi,
I was a bit confused by this thread and all the bluetooth problems. At the moment I have a Touch Diamond but I am up for an upgrade in the next month so I am looking at either the Diamond 2 or the Hero. I have a Sony BTNX20 stereo BT headset that i use for everything, Will I still be able to use this headset for stereo music on the Hero? Also what video files can it play? Or is there something like Core Player available that will play everything? A bit off topic but i thought id ask since i had a bluetooth question!
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Your BT headset should be fine, as for video play back... well it's poor. And as for Core player it won't be out for long time (if ever!).
Im new to the android system and am having difficulties pairing the Bluetooth of the X10 to my car system (this worked a dream with the X1). I know there are issues with the Bluetooth android 1.6 version but the spec of the phone included A2dp. Any ideas why the car can not pick up the phone were as phones 2-3 yrs older can?
i have bluetooth connection with x10 and carradio. turn on bluetooth, in setting you have turn on the option discovable ... blablabla ... and than search for the radio... and make connection ...
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Cheers for the reply. I managed to sort the issue out. Had to unpair the previous handset from the car. X10 works a dream now ;-)
And in synching your phone to the car all of your contacts get synched as well?
On my BMW BT phone-kit I only get about half of my approx. 600 phone contacts moved over. Anyone know what could be the problem here? The exact same contacts were always 100% glitch-free when synching with my old Rhodium (WM TP2) phone...?
Dialing, answering, speaking to the contacts I actually have in the car works fine, but... there are so many missing!
Cheers/M
In my car the X10 BT stops working after 1 minute according to the issues mentionned here (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3960#makechanges)
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And in synching your phone to the car all of your contacts get synched as well?
On my BMW BT phone-kit I only get about half of my approx. 600 phone contacts moved over. Anyone know what could be the problem here? The exact same contacts were always 100% glitch-free when synching with my old Rhodium (WM TP2) phone...?
Dialing, answering, speaking to the contacts I actually have in the car works fine, but... there are so many missing!
Cheers/M
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I have some contacts missing also.. From names S-Z.. I have no idea why this is .. When i manually dial the number from the car dial the number and name gets recognized. Very strange indeed Must be a limit on how many numbers are available to sync?
now i realize it's android's problem not x10's problem
that's a good thing to know....
cuz my x1 worked fine, and x10 borke my heart while it cant link to my car properly.....
now I'll just wait for the fix
was thinking to return it. lol now it seems now it's not nessecry =D
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now i realize it's android's problem not x10's problem
that's a good thing to know....
cuz my x1 worked fine, and x10 borke my heart while it cant link to my car properly.....
now I'll just wait for the fix
was thinking to return it. lol now it seems now it's not nessecry =D
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yea same her with the MW600 headset but at long its a software problem it can be fixt ..hope se will wix it soon (or in september with the 2.x android update where i also wonder if they add dualtouche support or not )
I know that at the moment this isn't possible, but does anyone know if there is work being done on the Android bluetooth stack to enable a tablet to be used as a bluetooth hands-free device? A bit of searching shows that it is a regularly requested feature but I can't seem to find any info on any developers who are definitively working on this (except for one little questionable nugget that stated that the CM developers were playing with Bluetooth. Hardly enough to go on.).
I want to incorporate a Nexus 7 into my 370Z as a carpc but the lack of being able to integrate phone features is holding me back. Using data apps like grooveip are a no go for me as data connections around here aren't reliable enough for consistent daily use. Thanks in advance for any info.
I'm not to sure of what your asking, but if you wanna make calls from your tablet using BT this app allows you to do that as well as send SMS and MMS from it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk hope that helps and is what you mean
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I appreciate the suggestion but I don't think this will work. What I would like to do is mount my tablet in my car and use it as a front end for my phone to make/take calls the way an OEM bluetooth car system would normally work. My understanding is that your tablet must be paired as a hands free device, which android tablets currently don't do. I looked at Tablet Talk but when using that app from what I can gather when you accept a call on the tablet it actually activates the call on your handset. Ultimately I want to use the tablet as a hands free solution as I drive stick and holding my phone to my ear while driving is a no-no.
In the past I've used bt headsets but I lose them constantly and frankly I'm tired of replacing them. Oh well.
Well, good luck in your search! And you hit tablet talk spot on BTW lol. Oh and if you do find a solution, plz post it! This sounds like something I would love to use.
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Well, good luck in your search! And you hit tablet talk spot on BTW lol. Oh and if you do find a solution, plz post it! This sounds like something I would love to use.
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Thanks. I'll thinking I'll probably go the route of a more traditional carpc for now, but if and when this becomes a feature you can take advantage of with android tablets I'll have to reevaluate the situation.
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I know that at the moment this isn't possible, but does anyone know if there is work being done on the Android bluetooth stack to enable a tablet to be used as a bluetooth hands-free device?
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This would be a great extension or compliment to the various apps that let you send/receive SMSs from your tablet via your phone. If I could at least receive/answer calls too, I could leave the phone elsewhere at home.
Just to let you know I've contacted parrot and garmin with regards to something like this.
I want a solution where I can make my nexus 7 a full media center with DAB radio and a good sat nav without needing a cellular link and hands free for my phone which includes the voice commands available through the tablet.
So hopefully they will get back to me and I'll post up here what they say.
Something I haven't solved yet either is getting all the antennae feeds into the nexus, I was thinking of getting a sharks fin antennae and wiring them into a raspberry pi to then blue toothing them into the nexus, I could also then attach a HDD to the pi to use it as a server to.
I want to do it this way so I can take the 7 otu and with me if I wish, rather than having it hard wired in. also if would allow for device upgrade.
Theres a nice thread on install and with references to the tasker app to get the tablet to work with the ignition and other functionality like that;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819175
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There is an app under development for this I think. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyandroid.phonelink
I'm thinking of dropping a Nexus 7 in my car but the lack of hands free bluetooth is kind of a deal breaker.
Did anybody ever get this working? I have my Nexus installed in the car, and would love to be able to use it as a speakerphone. I don't need to actually be able to make the calls via the tablet, just need to be able to use it as a basic bluetooth speakerphone / headset type of thing.
It sounds like it should be something fairly simple, but I cannot seem to find much.
I have been wanting this for a long time, I'd love to be able to take my older Android phone and re-purpose it as a car GPS/Internet Radio/Handfree, etc.
I know the Samsung Galaxy player has this functionality, I wonder if any of their devs could help out.
if this work in linux so i think can work on android
Hi to all,
i been looking for this "bluetooth role" for long time. I have read a lot of forum and the entire XDA posts about this..
it seems that this is the definitive question like "what is the answer to life the universe and everything" simple 42
and it seems that is the paradise for all want to make a carputer/droid/tablet/**** car radio replacement... so... i'm one of you
this post is for some devs (i'm a dev too) i'm asking for help ....
the problem is: which android version do you want to use?
why this question? simple: from the android 4.2 google has decided to trash the bluetooth bluez stack and reimplement the wheel with bluedroid...
i read the documentation about bluedroid at this site:
https://source.android.com/devices/bluetooth.html
and there was written that there are some profiles actualy implemented but not the Bluetooth Hands-Free Profile server.
Ok it's not a problem, taking a look to the template of other profile i can implement it.
now the question is HOW DOES IT WORKS?
so i searched and bum this is how:
version 1.5
version 1.6
ok and now? and now i tried to find some similar implementations and...
after another night of search i found this....
HFP For Linux
where there is the downloadable source code.
now I think we have all the necessary to make this possible...
BUT there are some problem that i haven't resolved yet for a lack of knowledge of course.
it seems that the hfp override any other profiles on that example, it's not bad, in a system that i want to use i need only a HFP profile and AD2P togheter all the rest is useless
i think that this at the end is a fork of the standard android project and how I/we can put it into a rom or a patch and who want to add to a rom/kernel? how it can be done? is a patch better ? a new kernel like franco's or better to submit to google?
I hope to have intrigued someone with this post and I hope that somebody can link me to some documentation to understand how to put all the information I have together.
ps. i have tried to reply into this thread:
[Q] Android phone as bluetooth headset?
but of course i have to few posts to make my suggestion there
I may be out of line here but try reading about the gmate+ device.
I got one paired with my Nexus 7 32gb right now and currently using it as a phone. I believe there are other similar gadgets out there, as I've done some researches before I actually got mine to work. I have yet to try it with a bluetooth headset paired because I lost mine just on the day when I was about to try it out.
Anyway, one problem here is, the app for the device is currently not updated so there are a lot of things that need tweaking and one major issue for me is the ringtone. As I have posted here before, sine N7 does not have native ringtone, there's no alert tone for incoming calls. As for text messages, the notification alert tone works. I know there's also GPRS for it but haven't tried it out yet.
Try these options...
As far as an option for a Nexus 7 you may want to try a sip dialer like 3cx or linphone or zoiper and establish a free sip account at iptel.org or something. As long as you have wifi or a 3g connection which some tablet have you should be able to make and receive calls, or try ""Blue Fi" from the play store. it may work.
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Did anybody ever get this working? I have my Nexus installed in the car, and would love to be able to use it as a speakerphone. I don't need to actually be able to make the calls via the tablet, just need to be able to use it as a basic bluetooth speakerphone / headset type of thing.
It sounds like it should be something fairly simple, but I cannot seem to find much.
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golfnz34me said:
I have been wanting this for a long time, I'd love to be able to take my older Android phone and re-purpose it as a car GPS/Internet Radio/Handfree, etc.
I know the Samsung Galaxy player has this functionality, I wonder if any of their devs could help out.
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I just got a new Nexus 7 for the same purpose of replacing my vehicles head unit with a tablet.
I am digging into the BT stack since I believe that I should be able to implement (or port) the profile on top of Android 4.3 assuming that the SCO data is available through the raw BT connection. There is an open source HFP implementation on sourceforge for Linux that migh be close enough to do the trick and save a bunch of coding time. It's going to take a while for me to get the time to dive too deeply into this one, but if I succeed or come to the conclusion it can't be done, I will let folks know.
Hello guys.
I am going to buy Nexus 7 for my car for the same purposes, - navigating, internet.
But mainly is for the Hands Free function.
Unfortunately, people saying nexus can't use it. But it's lol...I don't believe nexus7 doesn't support hands free.
Gentelman, tell me any way to make nexus 7 works hands free.
Thank you in advance.
P.S. if you ask wham am I mean when saying "hands free", so there is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEFjDKtlao8
Use some Motorola MotoActiv Bt code?
I have a Motorola MotoActiv running watch... Features gps tracking for running and biking, MP3 player and Bluetooth... The Bluetooth is mainly used for wireless headphones, but if you have a Motorola Phone, the watch can display text msgs from the phone and you can use the headphones/mic through the watch to take calls. (the idea being that you can leave the phone in a pocket or backpack while you're bike riding, I guess, and still take calls.)
The device runs Android (I'm sure someone's rooted it on here). Maybe that code can be dissected and repurposed for what were all looking for??
J
more on Motorola Watch
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I have a Motorola MotoActiv running watch... Features gps tracking for running and biking, MP3 player and Bluetooth... The Bluetooth is mainly used for wireless headphones, but if you have a Motorola Phone, the watch can display text msgs from the phone and you can use the headphones/mic through the watch to take calls. (the idea being that you can leave the phone in a pocket or backpack while you're bike riding, I guess, and still take calls.)
The device runs Android (I'm sure someone's rooted it on here). Maybe that code can be dissected and repurposed for what were all looking for??
J
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Just an update on something I said in my previous post... I was looking at my MotoActiv watch today and it says you have to have an "Android phone" not a Motorola phone as I said in my previous post. So I'm wondering if the phone audio over Bt can be reverse engineered from the Motoactive watch for other android devices.
I actually decided to root my watch today just for the fun of it... it would really make the perfect "Car Head Unit" as it has Android OS, MP3 capabilities, FM Tuner, Bluetooth and Phone audio over Bluetooth built in... if only the screen was larger than 1.5".
Looks like the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 2013 are getting some love in this area with a new custom stack:
http://www.bluez.org/bluez-for-android-status-update/
Looks like you need some compiling skills, but I think this is what you are looking for.
It must be work... Or not?
Hello guys!
I'm thinking on a same project for a while. It doesn't matter if not work for me, but would be great if yes.
I found something 2 days ago:
Parrot Asteroid Smart
This is an android base head unit/navigation, and the bluetooth handsfree is working on it. How it's possible? Any chance to port it into the Nexus 7?
solution
So i had an idea today and decided to call my carrier (Cricket). They told me it is possible to purchase an extra sim card and they will program the imei# to match my phone. This will enable me to make and receive calls on my tablet as well as my phone using the same number. Also i will have full access to my data.....problem solved with only 15 dollars. I hope this helps somebody.
Hey everyone, I currently own a Ford Fiesta which has Sync. I'm trying to shed some light regarding MTP(USB) and Ford Sync.
So far, my research shows that the Galaxy Nexus which introduced MTP, people would have their playlist get stuck at "Indexing" and you were not able to sync through USB (Bluetooth pairing works fine).
I've tried the regular methods of, factory resetting SYNC and doing a master reset on my car. Anyone have better experience with this situation? Advice?
As a background, the only music I have is Google Music. I currently have a couple albums in my device but the rest are uploaded. Tomorrow morning I'm going to try updating my software (which I believe is already up to date) but worth a shot. I have the Nexus 4 running (Android 4.2 [doy!])
Help would be greatly appreciated!
xRef: reddit ref
Selfless BUMP.
If this doesn't work is there anyway I can make a (Music)folder partitioned so that it will mount ?
I know currently there's not MTP to USB Mass Storage mode :/ but there has to be a way to get this working
How good is the Nexus 4 working with Sync? Anything to look out for or any tips you can provide? Gonna be trying it with my Ford soon. What works and what doesn't work?
I happen to have a Fiesta with sync... I've never tried plugging my N4 into it, though... I either just stream Pandora (get the Pandora app link if you haven't yet; it's awesome!) or play music from my thumb drive. If you'd like, I can give it a try in my car and see if I get any other results.
BTW, does your phone work with text messaging?
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How good is the Nexus 4 working with Sync? Anything to look out for or any tips you can provide? Gonna be trying it with my Ford soon. What works and what doesn't work?
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Pretty good... the sound quality is noticeably worse than my older phone, though, but it's not too bad. Pairing is a lot quicker I've noticed. Text messaging doesn't work, however... I know only a few phones do, though.
I'm just curious if you can get all the wireless Bluetooth functionality that Ford Sync claims? Such as reading of incoming text messages, voice activated calling, things like that. Does it work for you? I'm guessing by your question that text messaging does not work, sadly.
Here's a summary of my experience.
-Currently, MTP on the Nexus 4 makes USB Audio not sync, so you can't play music through USB (You'll get stuck at Indexing FOREVER).
-Bluetooth Audio works pretty well however you won't get info such as Artist, Song name, etc.
-Streaming audio through bluetooth doesn't let you do "Play Artist XXX or Play Song XXX" that USB Audio CAN provide.
-With that said, like someone said above me, you can use a USB thumb drive just fine to play a bunch of songs. If you have a Ford Fiesta 2012, there's a secret Secondary USB2 for developers which works PERFECTLY fine. (http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/ice-car-entertainment/31647-second-usb-port-19.html)
-Sync can read your messages once it does come in but you have to press OK a couple of times.
-The Sync Messaging system is TERRIBLE. You cannot reply with a custom message. You always have to use preset ones. I really wish someone is able to hack the sync button to call Google Now or something.. that would be AWESOME.
-Using Pandora App Link works pretty well, you can skip tracks and pause it's awesome.
-Sync Services can be pretty useful. I recommend using downloading an app called Send To Car, which lets you go on google maps, type a location or business address and "share" it to Send to Car which then sends it to your car so you can navigate.
Sync isn't perfect, but it has an even share of good and bad. If you're in to buying a Ford Fiesta, I recommend holding off for the 2014 version which will support MyFord Touch. This actually allows AVRCP1.3 so you can stream audio track names etc through bluetooth.
Thanks for the information!
darkamikaze said:
I really wish someone is able to hack the sync button to call Google Now or something.. that would be AWESOME.
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I agree, now that would be great.
Shameless bump.
So I found out today my friend's S3 is able to stream music through USB in his Ford. According to my car forums as well iPhone 5 users are able to do the same on SYNC capable cars. :/ I know these phones incorporate MTP style storage so why can't my Nexus 4 do it ): .
darkamikaze said:
Here's a summary of my experience.
-Currently, MTP on the Nexus 4 makes USB Audio not sync, so you can't play music through USB (You'll get stuck at Indexing FOREVER).
-Bluetooth Audio works pretty well however you won't get info such as Artist, Song name, etc.
-Streaming audio through bluetooth doesn't let you do "Play Artist XXX or Play Song XXX" that USB Audio CAN provide.
-With that said, like someone said above me, you can use a USB thumb drive just fine to play a bunch of songs. If you have a Ford Fiesta 2012, there's a secret Secondary USB2 for developers which works PERFECTLY fine. (http://www.fiestafaction.com/forums/ice-car-entertainment/31647-second-usb-port-19.html)
-Sync can read your messages once it does come in but you have to press OK a couple of times.
-The Sync Messaging system is TERRIBLE. You cannot reply with a custom message. You always have to use preset ones. I really wish someone is able to hack the sync button to call Google Now or something.. that would be AWESOME.
-Using Pandora App Link works pretty well, you can skip tracks and pause it's awesome.
-Sync Services can be pretty useful. I recommend using downloading an app called Send To Car, which lets you go on google maps, type a location or business address and "share" it to Send to Car which then sends it to your car so you can navigate.
Sync isn't perfect, but it has an even share of good and bad. If you're in to buying a Ford Fiesta, I recommend holding off for the 2014 version which will support MyFord Touch. This actually allows AVRCP1.3 so you can stream audio track names etc through bluetooth.
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Hi darkamikaze,
Can you let me know what version of Ford Sync you are running? I'm going to guess it's an non-MyFord Touch system, which seems to have more support for the Bluetooth MAP profile.
I've got a Nexus 4 on order, and running the latest MyFord Touch system. I will report back if this seems to work any better.
Yes I have the Gen1 on my Fiesta'12 which I know for a fact will never get the better bluetooth profile which allows media info to be passed along to my fiesta's dash.
Still unfortunate that I can't get the damn USB-To-Nexus 4 working -_-; Forever stuck at indexing.
Just for everyone's information:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/ford-looks-to-go-the-android-route-with-its-sync-applink-system/
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130108/CARNEWS/130109897
https://developer.ford.com/
It would be interesting to eventually see an app to interface with Google Now. Additionally, I believe that Ford Sync systems use the i.MX516 ARM with processorWEIMX: Windows® Embedded for i.MX Applications Processor. I could be wrong about the OS though. It would be cool if they made the OS code open source, imagine the possibilities.
That is fantastic news! I'm gonna try to dive into this right now!
Please let us know...
Another thing beside music is the calling feature. When I receive a call and wanted to take it on private then I should answer from the phone not the wheel button nor the dashboard screen but when I do so the call would still trans to the car audio. When I used blackberry before I used to answer from wheel/dashboard for car audio call OR I could answer from the phone to have a private call on the handset.
Any thoughts?
EDIT: I have a 2011 Ford F-150 Harley-Davidson
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
I picked my car up on Wednesday. I've not tried my N4 with it via Bluetooth Audio yet as I have a 32gb USB Drive doing nothing so I've just put that in there.
The only issue I'm having is getting Text Messaging working with my N4. It just says that the Nexus 4 does not support this feature. I've looked around and found people mentioning the MAP Profile setting but I can't find it anywhere. My only guess is that this setting doesn't exist on the UK Version which is built in to the new Fiesta.
People from the UK can't even register on Syncmyride.com
Using Services (Sending Location)
Is anyone else here having an issue with Ford Sync Services & their Nexus 4s? Specifically, I have a Ford Fiesta with the latest Sync SW, and every time I use Services (for instance to get directions or to find out traffic), it says it can't find my location.
Just want to rule out that it's the phone that's the problem- so has anyone successfully done this with their N4s?
Thanks!
cooljonL said:
I picked my car up on Wednesday. I've not tried my N4 with it via Bluetooth Audio yet as I have a 32gb USB Drive doing nothing so I've just put that in there.
The only issue I'm having is getting Text Messaging working with my N4. It just says that the Nexus 4 does not support this feature. I've looked around and found people mentioning the MAP Profile setting but I can't find it anywhere. My only guess is that this setting doesn't exist on the UK Version which is built in to the new Fiesta.
People from the UK can't even register on Syncmyride.com
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Trying to help some one in the States with the same problem... They have a 2013 Ford Focus + Nexus 4... The Nexus 4 pairs with MyTouch Sync just fine.. But for messaging it says the device aka Nexus 4 is not compatible with Bluetooth Messaging.... Been trying to find ow to activate or check if MAP Profile allows for Bluetooth Messaging...
I am wondering if the 4.2.2 update will address any of the BT profile problems... ( Never mind.. Seems Google hasn't fix any of the BT problems with 4.2.2... WTF Google..)
PM me if u find a solution.. I'll do the same...
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Trying to help some one in the States with the same problem... They have a 2013 Ford Focus + Nexus 4... The Nexus 4 pairs with MyTouch Sync just fine.. But for messaging it says the device aka Nexus 4 is not compatible with Bluetooth Messaging.... Been trying to find ow to activate or check if MAP Profile allows for Bluetooth Messaging...
I am wondering if the 4.2.2 update will address any of the BT profile problems... ( Never mind.. Seems Google hasn't fix any of the BT problems with 4.2.2... WTF Google..)
PM me if u find a solution.. I'll do the same...
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All I've found is that the Nexus 4 lacksthe BT MAP Profile which is required by Sync to use Text Messaging. Samsung devices on the other hand have the BT MAP Profile, so my girlfriends phone works fine with it.
CM 10.1 supposedly has the profile but it's broken. I've been checking the nightlies but no one has fixed it yet. If I knew what I was doing I'd have a go at porting the profile over from a samsung device myself.
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All I've found is that the Nexus 4 lacksthe BT MAP Profile which is required by Sync to use Text Messaging. Samsung devices on the other hand have the BT MAP Profile, so my girlfriends phone works fine with it.
CM 10.1 supposedly has the profile but it's broken. I've been checking the nightlies but no one has fixed it yet. If I knew what I was doing I'd have a go at porting the profile over from a samsung device myself.
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I also have been trying CM 10.1 to get MAP working so I can access text messages on MyFord Touch in my Focus. Just updated to CM 10.1 RC2 and it still isn't working for me.
I just want to know whose hare-brained idea it was to eliminate UMS from Android in the first place.
Both my N4 and my wife's SGS3 (i747) get stuck at "INDEXING" forever when plugging into Sync in our 2012 Fusion. She actually switched back to her HTC Vivid because of it.
Here's to hoping 10.1 final will restore UMS functionality.
I had the "indexing forever problem" when I first tried USB with nexus 4.I noticed that a couple minutes in the phone would show "media.process has stopped". What I did was clear the USB mass storage cache. Settings>apps>all>media storage>clear cache. Then no problems. Sync finished indexing in a minute and media voice control works fine. I use syncmyitunes to add music. When I first had problems I deleted all music on phone and added only one song to the music folder to index the first time. This might help also. Now after all this, sync occasionally states it has detected a new device and indexes again. Usually this is when I forget to plug in the phone BEFORE starting the car. Hope this helps someone.