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Going to purchase a hd2 solely to run andriod, how does andriod run on it? How responsive is it? Does it lag? Are there any issues?
Just need overall feedback on the andriod experience runnin on the hd2...
y dont u just buy an android phone if u wan android?
It would be stupid to buy and HD2 solely for Android. The port is still not perfect, the battery drain high, and there are still many things not working.
If you want solely Android, do yourself a favor, and buy a Desire HD.
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It would be stupid to buy and HD2 solely for Android. The port is still not perfect, the battery drain high, and there are still many things not working.
If you want solely Android, do yourself a favor, and buy a Desire HD.
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I would love to buy a desire hd but I'm in ny and it doesn't work here... and I'm on t-mobile so buying a evo is out of the question also...
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y dont u just buy an android phone if u wan android?
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I'm using a nexus one I just want a bigger screen
For bigger Screen, with out any other thought you can simply buy a Desire HD, which is far more better than HD2 in all aspects
Using Android as every day system on my HD2, didn't boot in WM last 2-3 weeks.
Battery drain isn't high, for me it's equals or less then in WM. It does lag sometimes, but my friend's native android motorola does lag too.
I would say that Evo 4G or Desire HD would be a better option for android, but for me Evo wasn't an options as Iam not on CDMA, and Desire HD costs 300$ more then HD2 for almost same hardware.
I would love to buy the desire hd but it doesn't work in the US, more specifically new york, an I'm on tmo so evo is a no go...
i'm using android on my hd2 since august, never booted winmo again cause android works perfect for me. no need for winmo for me anymore.
battery drain is high, but when you have the possibility to recharge every evening it's no problem at all.
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Uh, I've ran three Android builds (Desire base, CM6.1 base, HD base), and I barely see any problems with any of them. Worst yet is just some lag on the HD build and MMS refusing to work on the 6.1 build.
I got my HD2 solely for Android for $200 w/o contract. In all honesty, it's a super good "budget" Android phone, but like others said get a Desire HD/G2/native Android phone if money is no worries to you.
The galaxy s line of phone have 4 inch screens... or wait a few weeks and get a nexus s. That is going to be Google's new development phone, so newer apps and games will be built to take better advantage of the better gpu and chipset in the nexus s and the galaxy s line of phones.
Or wait a month or 2 and I'm sure there will be another native android phone with 4.3 inch screen.
You should definitely get a native android phone if you're just going to run android. The hd2 only runs a port, and it will always be a port. In the long run you will be much better with a native android phone. I can understand 4-6 months ago getting the hd2 for the big screen... but now there is many more choices out there for android. Also, I'm sure in a few months our devs will be moving on to new devices, and development will slow down for the hd2... at this point I would go for a newer device instead of a phone that's already 1 1/2 years old.... especially if you're not going to use winmo. If you were going to use winmo, it would be a completely different story, as the hd2 is going to be the last, greatest winmo device probably.... but just for android, go for a newer android device that still has a life ahead of it.
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I think Android runs really well on the HD2, even faster than some "real" Android phones (Like Galaxy S, which btw feels so damn plastic). But you have to be prepared that some functions might not work (like 720p recording). Ive used Android as my main OS since August without any big problems.
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I think Android runs really well on the HD2, even faster than some "real" Android phones (Like Galaxy S, which btw feels so damn plastic). But you have to be prepared that some functions might not work (like 720p recording). Ive used Android as my main OS since August without any big problems.
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I don't mind no 720p minor issues like that are not a problem...
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I think Android runs really well on the HD2, even faster than some "real" Android phones (Like Galaxy S, which btw feels so damn plastic). But you have to be prepared that some functions might not work (like 720p recording). Ive used Android as my main OS since August without any big problems.
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720p recording does work now.....
I tried Android on my HD2 just 2 months ago and I was totally blown away with the rich application base and customisations that can be done to it. Battery drain wise is manageable with some cpu settings and tweaks. I had a Hero some time ago and I took a peek at the Hero section and was astonished that they are already running froyo roms too! So in that context I think that the HD2 Android development still have a long way to go before developers and chef starts to move on to another device...
Besides, with Nand multiple boot options coming along, you get to choose running various platform on one device like WM7 with Android and to me, that is soooooo amazing!!!
wait for gingerbread and buy nexus1,desire hd is another option but running android on HD2 has its own fun.you will become flasher after few days of buying HD2.
I bought a HD2 a few months back purely to run Android and I haven't regretted it for a second. I've got friends with Galaxy S's and other Android phones, and I wouldn't swap mine for any of them.
There is only one other phone with a 4.3" screen, the Desire HD, but that costs twice (or more) what you can pick up a HD2 for. And with other phones, how many of them have fully unlocked bootloaders? We know that when 2.3 and 3.0 come out the HD2 will get them within a day or so, you can't say that about most Android phones coming out now as they lock them up tighter and tighter. My mate is still waiting for 2.2 on his Galaxy.
I get no lag at all running CM6.1, my only remaining problems are that I'll occasionally get high current draw that needs a reboot to clear, and that if you use the SD card mount thing within the phone sooner or later you'll get data corruption (a consequence of running Android off the SD card and then trying to mount it elsewhere). I wouldn't complain if the battery life was better, but I'm happy to stick it on the charger each night. There's people complaining of battery life on the Desire HD too, that big screen takes some juice to run.
Frankly I don't care at all that we don't install to NAND, it adds a few seconds to the boot time and then you don't notice it. In return you can make a 1 or 2G data img and never have to worry about running out of app space like native android phones do.
a Desire HD if in euro or a Evo if in US would be the best solution for you if you are a simple person and wanted a android phone on a 4.3" screen and wanted it rooted (you would not be on XDA if you were average Joe/Jane)
This is the most obvious solution for the OP.
In my case I owned a G1,G2 (MAGIC,Before the real G2) and an N1 before exchanging the N1 for a HD2.... originally I found the HD2 + WM + Android a chore and flashing this radio, formatting my sdcard this and that way to make android perform the same as my N1.... then I found I could settle for a problem here and there to get the ability to have multi roms and not worry about nandroiding...
I switched from a nexus one and I solely run android. Windows sucks and I have been very happy with my decision. If you know how to use adb then you will be fine
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HD2 is a tinkerers phone,if you like tinkering around with different builds and roms then its ideal,solely as an android phone it ok,performance is good,even a bit faster than my girlfriends Desire but dont expect it to be perfect like native android phones and yes it simular Hardware to the desire HD but acording the guys on here in that section of the section of this forum,our beloved sister phone has a phew issues so im gonna say,down to personal preffrance,if it was me and was over there ide get a unlocked Evo 4g but as im in the U.K im happy sticking with my HD2.its still has a thew up on the Desire HD suprisingly
I also bought my HD2 a few months ago solely to run Android. It works brilliantly and gets higher quadrant scores than the equivalent pure Android phones. It also lasts me a good 24 hours with moderate use.
With new clean builds like cedesmith's Desire Spot I really can't see any difference in everyday usage to a dedicated Android phone.
I've just been offered a new phone from work, and to be honest even though that could be a Desire HD, I can't really see any benefits to upgrading, I can use the same sense build on my HD2 if I want and the only other plus is that it has a few extra megapixels in the camera sensor. It's also heavier and a has an annoying little ridge around the edge of the screen.
I think I'm sticking with the HD2 until there is something similar with a tegra inside.
So I realize this is a bit stupid being I'm posting it in the G2 forums so it might be a bit biased and the fact that the G2 is a native android phone and the hd2 isn't. The only thing is, I'm on T-mobile and theres no native 4.3 inch android phone YET. I know the G2 has a better processor in it if i'm not mistaken, but I've been wanting a 4.3 inch phone for awhile. I also noticed that the HD2 has more development behind it in terms of roms compared to the G2 and I was wondering why exactly that was? The only thing I like about the G2 is the better specs and the keyboard. If someone can help steer me in the right direction, i'd appreciate it!
Thanks!
If i'm not mistaken- g2 has cpu of 800mhz against 1000mhz in hd2.
Well, development of hd2 is widely spread because it is winmo based device, which allowed the developers a freedome for developing. There are about 7 OS which loaded through haret(winmo emulator).
I was a user of hd2 and changed it to g2 and i can't say which is better, i like both of them)
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If i'm not mistaken- g2 has cpu of 800mhz against 1000mhz in hd2.
Well, development of hd2 is widely spread because it is winmo based device, which allowed the developers a freedome for developing. There are about 7 OS which loaded through haret(winmo emulator).
I was a user of hd2 and changed it to g2 and i can't say which is better, i like both of them)
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Yeah but the gpu in the G2 is better than the hd2. I was just wondering what everyone else thought and others opinions before i make my decision
Its also New generation vs old generation... The G2 Is faster and much more overclockable
Depends what you want to do really The only like OS you will be getting for now on your G2 is android whereas the HD2 can Daul boot WinMo 6. Windows Phone 7. Ubuntu. Android... and someother versions of linux.... I think meego too
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If i'm not mistaken- g2 has cpu of 800mhz against 1000mhz in hd2.
Well, development of hd2 is widely spread because it is winmo based device, which allowed the developers a freedome for developing. There are about 7 OS which loaded through haret(winmo emulator).
I was a user of hd2 and changed it to g2 and i can't say which is better, i like both of them)
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If i'm not mistaken- g2 has cpu of 800mhz against 1000mhz in hd2.
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CPU clock doesn't come close to telling the whole story. The CPU on the Vision is a newer generation of Snapdragon than the one on the HD2. Different fabrication process and newer GPU. Even though the CPU on the Vision is clocked at 800 Mhz, it outbenches all the 1GHz "older" gen Snapdragon phones, such the Nexus One (same proc as the HD2) and EVO 4G, as well as other proc types, like the Galaxy S. I think only the Desire HD (same generation of CPU as the Vision, but at 1 GHz) and newer phones (Atrix, Nexus S) have benched faster than the CPU on the Vision.
The HD2 has been around a long time, almost a year and a half (ancient in smartphone terms). That is another part of the reason why there are more ROMs for the HD2. Also, Windows Mobile is older, and has had more development. WM is also outdated trash. At this point, I would not use my money on a phone whose native OS is so far behind the alternatives. Which brings us to another reason there are so many ROMs on the HD2. With WM as the native OS, its no surprise that people have been scrambling to put almost anything else on the phone besides the stock ROM. But that is a completely biased opinion, as I have no personal experience with the HD2. But I do own a Touch Pro 2, which I used for a year, and needed to have a custom ROM just to be usable. The TP2 has lower specs than the HD2 for sure, but ditching WM nightmare for Android has been unbelievable, and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. Saying the ability to dual boot WM is not a "pro" by any stretch of the imagination, IMO.
The stock ROM on the G2/Desire Z is actually pretty darned good. That's part of the reason why there has not been as much development on the Vision. It just works as is. Also, it seems that developers were holding back a bit, since Gingerbread came out just a couple months after the phone was released. Now that Gingerbread is stable via CM7, developers have been building on that and the ROM development has really started hitting critical mass. Just in the past couple weeks there has been something like 5 (or more) new ROM series hitting the Vision, with more likely on the way.
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CPU clock doesn't come close to telling the whole story. The CPU on the Vision is a newer generation of Snapdragon than the one on the HD2. Different fabrication process and newer GPU. Even though the CPU on the Vision is clocked at 800 Mhz, it outbenches all the 1GHz "older" gen Snapdragon phones, such the Nexus One (same proc as the HD2) and EVO 4G, as well as other proc types, like the Galaxy S. I think only the Desire HD (same generation of CPU as the Vision, but at 1 GHz) and newer phones (Atrix, Nexus S) have benched faster than the CPU on the Vision.
The HD2 has been around a long time, almost a year and a half (ancient in smartphone terms). That is another part of the reason why there are more ROMs for the HD2. Also, Windows Mobile is older, and has had more development. WM is also outdated trash. At this point, I would not use my money on a phone whose native OS is so far behind the alternatives. Which brings us to another reason there are so many ROMs on the HD2. With WM as the native OS, its no surprise that people have been scrambling to put almost anything else on the phone besides the stock ROM. But that is a completely biased opinion, as I have no personal experience with the HD2. But I do own a Touch Pro 2, which I used for a year, and needed to have a custom ROM just to be usable. The TP2 has lower specs than the HD2 for sure, but ditching WM nightmare for Android has been unbelievable, and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. Saying the ability to dual boot WM is not a "pro" by any stretch of the imagination, IMO.
The stock ROM on the G2/Desire Z is actually pretty darned good. That's part of the reason why there has not been as much development on the Vision. It just works as is. Also, it seems that developers were holding back a bit, since Gingerbread came out just a couple months after the phone was released. Now that Gingerbread is stable via CM7, developers have been building on that and the ROM development has really started hitting critical mass. Just in the past couple weeks there has been something like 5 (or more) new ROM series hitting the Vision, with more likely on the way.
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but there are some programs on winmo wich do not have analogue on android or ios- what means for some people dual boot is an argumen "for"
I had a HD2 for a while and I've just got a Z. I've enjoyed using both but I definitely rather the Z. Tbh all the development on the HD2 is for a reason. They're all trying to get the most stable Android ROM out. I found usually all of the roms to be very similar in speeds and looks etc.
Even the fastest ROMs I didn't find as fast as my Z and Istill have yet to root it and OC and flash CM7 and the like.
The HD2 does have the ability to boot multiple OS's but if you do that I find it to be even slower as one needs to be booted via the SD card and unless you have a good class 10 card it won't be fast. I also found over time the ROM's on my HD2 were getting more and more sluggish which lead me to keep having to flash roms.
The added bonus of the Z is ofcourse the keyboard.
I don't even notice the difference in screen size. I enjoy the 3.7 more aswell because its more comfortable to hold in hand and you can touch everywhere on the screen without having to reposition your hand.
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every day i find people who switched from hd2 to desire z
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every day i find people who switched from hd2 to desire z
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The keyboard is just so nice to have after using a touch screen for so long.
I have and regularly use both hd2 and the g2. The g2 is far more powerful cpu and gpu wise plus its more stable since it is an android native device. The HD2 is a great phone too. It has an awesome screen, multiple OS's and much more development (as its a much older device). Its lacks the power of the g2/vision but is still an awesome device.
Its all a matter of price and personal preferance.
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The keyboard is just so nice to have after using a touch screen for so long.
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I have both HD2 and a G2. One difference is the touchscreen is better in the G2, both better multitouch and better responsiveness.
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I have both HD2 and a G2. One difference is the touchscreen is better in the G2, both better multitouch and better responsiveness.
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If you like the keypad,then g2.
I had the hd2 since july 10 ..in that time frame the phone was replaced a total of 11 times..i had flashed android on it but somethings didnt work..but it was ok running android..it would be great if android came stock on it.as for the g2 i finally got t-mobile to upgrade me for free to the g2..i love it!!it is running stock rom 2.2 and will be getting update to 2.3..very fast and stable..has wifi hotspot,tethering and wifi calling..
Get the g2 .it is so worth it:d
Heya guys
as title suggests
I'm seriously entertaining the idea of trading my Cappy for an HD2 since it can run so many OS's and tweaking, not to mention a larger screen and slightly more RAM on the T-Mo version of the HD2.
What should I do?
there are obvious pros and cons for this move
Pros:
Bigger screen
More RAM on the T-Mo HD2
More OS's on the HD2---Android, WP7, etc
Cons:
Snapdragon SoC is 1st Gen on the HD2 and is slower than HummingBird SoC
LCD dislpay instead of SAMOLED display
so.....any opinions? I'm really tempted to trade, but I'm already planning to pick up a dual core phone some time Q3-4 next year as a treat for my birthday
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As long as you don't let someone sell you a fualty HD2, you can not go wrong buying a HD2. Yeah the screen is not AMOLED screen. But the size of the scree makes up for that, plus I love the desplay quality. And yes the QualComm Snapdragon in the HD2 is first Gen, but still it is a SNAPDRAGON. They don't say release the dragon within for nothing. The Snapdragon is a awesome processor, don't let all the hipe about other processors fool you. They are all trying to catch the Snapdragon. Once the dual core Snapdragon devices start coming out the other companies will really begin to rush their production of another processor. I Just wonder what a 2ghz dual core Snapdragon could do, just me dreaming though lol.
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As long as you don't let someone sell you a fualty HD2, you can not go wrong buying a HD2. Yeah the screen is not AMOLED screen. But the size of the scree makes up for that, plus I love the desplay quality. And yes the QualComm Snapdragon in the HD2 is first Gen, but still it is a SNAPDRAGON. They don't say release the dragon within for nothing. The Snapdragon is a awesome processor, don't let all the hipe about other processors fool you. They are all trying to catch the Snapdragon. Once the dual core Snapdragon devices start coming out the other companies will really begin to rush their production of another processor. I Just wonder what a 2ghz dual core Snapdragon could do, just me dreaming though lol.
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Is there an issue with faulty hd2's or something?
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Despite what everyone else is saying about how the processors are different, they really aren't. All are built on the same ARM instruction set, maybe with a little modifications, and some other part, I don't remember, is the same. So what i'm saying, in terms of processing, they really aren't different. In terms of GPU you should know that the sgs beats the HD2, period.
Interestingly i temporarily traded my HD2 for my cousin's cappy. He wanted to try out the HD2 for its multi booting OS goodness, I wanted to try a true android phone. Now I'm going to confidently say the sgs runs android a lot smoother and faster than the HD2, just something you should note if you're looking for performance. However don't think i'm saying the HD2 running android isn't smooth at all, it is, it just won't compare to a true android phone.
However as you said you wanted to try multi booting and tweaking, so the phone will never get you bored in that aspect. You'll be on the site constantly searching for new roms to try out, just for the sake of flashing cuz you're so addicted to flashing.
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Despite what everyone else is saying about how the processors are different, they really aren't. All are built on the same ARM instruction set, maybe with a little modifications, and some other part, I don't remember, is the same. So what i'm saying, in terms of processing, they really aren't different. In terms of GPU you should know that the sgs beats the HD2, period.
Interestingly i temporarily traded my HD2 for my cousin's cappy. He wanted to try out the HD2 for its multi booting OS goodness, I wanted to try a true android phone. Now I'm going to confidently say the sgs runs android a lot smoother and faster than the HD2, just something you should note if you're looking for performance. However don't think i'm saying the HD2 running android isn't smooth at all, it is, it just won't compare to a true android phone.
However as you said you wanted to try multi booting and tweaking, so the phone will never get you bored in that aspect. You'll be on the site constantly searching for new roms to try out, just for the sake of flashing cuz you're so addicted to flashing.
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Hmmm, thanks a lot for sharing your experience.......
Well I don't really have to "downgrade/sidegrade"
It feels more like an impulse move
I really shouldn't....should I? I'm planning to get a new phone anyway later this year q3-q4
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Oh no don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the HD2 is horrible at running anything. it runs great, just not as good as a true device of the OS, apart form winmo.
Now since you're saying Q3/4 you'll be getting a new phone i say, why not? For me right now, i'm actually bored with the captivate. No offense to captivate users, but it feels like an iPhone right now. Reason being all the roms are so similar, no uniqueness or variety. Now its not the devs fault of course. What can devs do if they don't have an AOSP to work on?
i guess its cuz i'm so addicted to flashing from my hd2.
Anyways the Hd2 will keep you preoccupied until you get a new phone.
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Oh no don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the HD2 is horrible at running anything. it runs great, just not as good as a true device of the OS, apart form winmo.
Now since you're saying Q3/4 you'll be getting a new phone i say, why not? For me right now, i'm actually bored with the captivate. No offense to captivate users, but it feels like an iPhone right now. Reason being all the roms are so similar, no uniqueness or variety. Now its not the devs fault of course. What can devs do if they don't have an AOSP to work on?
i guess its cuz i'm so addicted to flashing from my hd2.
Anyways the Hd2 will keep you preoccupied until you get a new phone.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well
Hows battery life and such?
Thanks!
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Mr.Pie[OCN] said:
Is there an issue with faulty hd2's or something?
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No it is not an issue for say with faulty HD2s, \but some [people on Ebay and such are selling HD2s that they have screwed up or someone has screwed up but tell people it is fixable or that there is nothing wrong with the phone when they know it is.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well
Hows battery life and such?
Thanks!
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Rather if I am Running Windows Mobile or a NAND Android ROM my battery will last for around 6 to 7 hours but that is with heavy use, I am a heavy user lol.
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No it is not an issue for say with faulty HD2s, \but some [people on Ebay and such are selling HD2s that they have screwed up or someone has screwed up but tell people it is fixable or that there is nothing wrong with the phone when they know it is.
Rather if I am Running Windows Mobile or a NAND Android ROM my battery will last for around 6 to 7 hours but that is with heavy use, I am a heavy user lol.
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thanks! I'm planning to pick up a 2.4k mah battery anyway and I usually bring my usb cable around
How hard is it to flash nand android onto the hd2?
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It's not hard to flash android/WP7 on the Hd2.
I disagree with the person that said an SGS runs android "more smoothly" than the HD2.
I've got a CM7 ROM on my HD2 and it runs tons more smoothly than the lagtastic stock ROM on the SGS, no doubt. If you flash a DHD port then yeah, ok, it will be slower, but CM7 or even Sense runs faster and better IMO than stock SGS (not that SGS can even run sense). I've never used CM7 on SGS so can't compare that.
Honestly my Android is running fast and seems/feels like a native Android device. WP7 feels/runs like a native WP7 device except multi-touch can be a little tricky (sometimes doesn't register pinch-to-zoom).
I would NOT trade my HD2 for an SGS unless it was the 4G version that I would sell and buy an HD2 on the cheap and keep the extra money for tacos
I personally think it's a smart trade because the HD2 has more to offer and doesn't feel like a cheap piece of plastic, yeah SAMOLED is nice but it's not that much nicer and you get really used to the HD2 screen and get to really enjoy it.
I know the hummingbird soc is better than 1st gen snapdragon, but samsung is so horrible with their code they don't utilize it's power anyways, an iPhone 4 uses the same soc and blows the SGS out of the water with a lower clock speed...
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I disagree with the person that said an SGS runs android "more smoothly" than the HD2.
I've got a CM7 ROM on my HD2 and it runs tons more smoothly than the lagtastic stock ROM on the SGS, no doubt. If you flash a DHD port then yeah, ok, it will be slower, but CM7 or even Sense runs faster and better IMO than stock SGS (not that SGS can even run sense). I've never used CM7 on SGS so can't compare that.
Honestly my Android is running fast and seems/feels like a native Android device. WP7 feels/runs like a native WP7 device except multi-touch can be a little tricky (sometimes doesn't register pinch-to-zoom).
I would NOT trade my HD2 for an SGS unless it was the 4G version that I would sell and buy an HD2 on the cheap and keep the extra money for tacos
I personally think it's a smart trade because the HD2 has more to offer and doesn't feel like a cheap piece of plastic, yeah SAMOLED is nice but it's not that much nicer and you get really used to the HD2 screen and get to really enjoy it.
I know the hummingbird soc is better than 1st gen snapdragon, but samsung is so horrible with their code they don't utilize it's power anyways, an iPhone 4 uses the same soc and blows the SGS out of the water with a lower clock speed...
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CM7 is very buggy for the SGS anyway, that I never bothered to even flash it
thanks for the opinions!
@orange
It seems i forgot to mention on a custom rom. However why are you going to compare a device that is running on software that has not been optimized to the fullest, to one that has, and then conclude one is better? I'm sorry, but isn't that unfair? If you're going to compare, compare on even grounds, one on a custom rom, to the other on a custom rom.
Either way, we all know the sgs is a piece of crap with the stock rom due to its horrible file system. But with lagfixes/tweaks/custom roms, it becomes the diamond it was supposed to be.
Okay so right now I'm using the evo shift but I'm about to switch to cincinatibell and was thinking of getting a hd2 because I'm an obessive flasher but I was wondering is the phone fast? Like my evo I've herd rumors that the speed is rediculously good like just as good as my shift I don't actually know how true that is what kinda changes would I be looking at if I did this would it be worth it I mean honestly is it as beast as the rumors I've heard or is it a p.o.s and I should concider a different phone
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Is it worth it ? depends on what it costs & what other device options are on offer.
HD2 is good for a cheap price, plenty of fun for a flashing junkie.
Downsides are: 1100Mah battery, no TV out, screen & motherboard issues are too common, sound quality is not the best, device can get hot very quickly.
I got my T-Mob version cheap but if paying close to full price it is out classed by other options.
1230 mAh battery, not 1100.
It's a good buy for a flashing junkie. And yeah, it's fast. It's the best Windows Mobile device and very good and fast Android/WP7 device. Of course there are faster and newer (and more expensive and not capable of multi OS), but there are also tons of slower devices.
Mister B pointed out downsides so... yeah, that's pretty it.
It would definitely satisy for disorder. On the note on whether it is fast. Yes it is fast, however your evo 3d should be a bit snappier.
To be honest, you won't find another phone with all these opportunities like the HD2, so if it's a ride you're looking for, this will give you one hell of a.
In terms of the best performance, you should look else where I suppose.
So its a great phone but like all phones has its issues (undrstandable) so aslong as I get it cheap then yes its worth it if not then find something else gotcha thanks every1 you helped me and I think I will be joining your community very soon jw is the android fully functional? And is it swype compatible?
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Swype is fully functional and Android, well, that depends on the ROM you pick. But on the whole, Android works very well on the HD2 (as does WP7 too).
I am on my second HD2, the first one being stolen after 6 months. I didn't want any other phone as a replacement. It HAD to be another HD2. For me, it's the best phone I have ever had and the most versatile that has ever been built. For a flash-junkie, it has to be the best phone in the world! Android either via SD or NAND, WP7 NAND, Ubuntu and Meego (the latter still rather wobbly) and of course WinMo 6.5 factory installed. You can still get them new via Amazon and co, but expect to pay about €450 - not cheap for a phone that is over 18 months on the market. Just goes to show that it is still a desirable piece of kit
seeing as you said your a flash junky like most of us here than def go for it. i barely got mine thursday after school and im coming from a captivate and you would have to be doing some really intensive stuff to see any lag what so ever and since your coming from a evo shift there really isnt much of a difference between it and the hd2 plus you can dual boot!!!!
not worth every cent (hryvnia) i paid.
i keed, i keed =P
Many good quality used ones from $200 - $250. Well worth it. This is the only handset I need till SGSII hits TMOUS.
And yes they can be fast with the Android ROMs
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HD2 is a very nice phone. If you want to try different operating systems, it's the only choice. If you already know what you want, choose a new one with native operating system of your choice, if possible, dual core.
Used phone seems to be a very good choice nowadays, because people update their phones much too often.
It's awesome, I've switched to HD7, Vibrant and Nexus 1, and the HD2 buries them all in terms of flexibility, power and is a very well constructed device, glass and metal. I don't understand why folk say Evo has more power, isn't it the same hardware wise? The new 2ghz phones aren't valid yet as I read
most app's don't utilize the processor...besides, you know once you buy virtually any other phone, it will be stuck on gingerbread and have far less roms than XDA has for the HD2...
I love my HD2 and will for a long time coming..
Correction, they don't utilize the full power of the processor. Meaning whilst its not operating both cores, both are still being used, just one is a helper.
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It's awesome, I've switched to HD7, Vibrant and Nexus 1, and the HD2 buries them all in terms of flexibility, power and is a very well constructed device, glass and metal. I don't understand why folk say Evo has more power, isn't it the same hardware wise? The new 2ghz phones aren't valid yet as I read
most app's don't utilize the processor...besides, you know once you buy virtually any other phone, it will be stuck on gingerbread and have far less roms than XDA has for the HD2...
I love my HD2 and will for a long time coming..
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Very well said, I will hold onto mine until it completely dies. Then I eill still try to fix it if repair parts are still avaliable.
At the OP, the HD2 is the beast you have read about. The HD2 falls short of nothing except maybe undo able hardware mods like no font facing camera and no TV out. It can handle almost anything you throw at it software wize and hang right in there with the native devices of what ever OS you use with it. I would dare say ot was the introduction device and is the intruduction device for several people who knew nothing ofcthe mobile development community and giving some pretty awsome crash courses. I am ome myself, now I know a good bit about Windows Mobile, learning like a ton about Android right now, and will try Windows Phone 7 eventually. I use Android for my daily driver now. I do not think my life would be the same without my HD2 now.
Much as I like my hd2, there are a couple of drawbacks: 65k dual touch screen & shonky GPS. Battery could be bigger too, but that goes for most androids.
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I just started using the HD2 with Android and I'm blown away. My house mate wants to swap his iphone 4. I love the voice commands with google. Swype is amazing. I've used the Navigation feature which worked right away. It seems like there is nothing the phone can't do, coming from a Blackberry perspective.
I find that the phone is very fast.
i own an hd2. i tried the stock rom, customized stock rom, and 2 android builds. as for android, the cam and camcorder suck, theyre not asd sharp as on the stock rom. battery on droid sucks too. and call quality is very bad.
on a customized rom, the call quality sucks, cam is horrible, and batt drains a lot, but it does look good. and this is what i dont understand. why is fluff taken out of a custom rom then its cam and batt suck?
on the stock rom, batt is better than custom rom and android. call quality sucks but a patch can reduce the static greatly. everything else works sharply and perfect. but, it lacks apps.. and this is what kills the phone.
hope this helps.
According to me, the only things that go against the phone are the fact that it has no front cam, the screen is just a 65k and the speaker could have been a wee bit louder. Everything else software related has been or will soon be sorted out by the good folks at XDA. If you can accept the hardware limitations, take the plunge man. This phone is a flash junkies dream.
My hd2 is my first smartphone (comming from a old nokia) i still use my hd2 as a normal 'call & be called' phone
litle by little im feeling comfortable with the bazillion options
i got it cheap for 150 euro (+- 200$) in original/clean state .
This is my second hd2 and it is well worth it...it is a very fast phone when flashed to android
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after my digitizer suddenly died out of nowhere and found out that this is a known issue to all HD2s, no its not worth it
hey guys ive recently been having TONS of problems with my HD2, I cant do simple things like listen to music, or even talk on my phone without it freezing. I know its an overheating issue and thats why when im driving I have to put my phone in my AC slot to keep it cooled. Im sick of dealing with the freezing, whats the point of having a smartphone if you cant do anything with it, so enough of my rant but I want to buy a phone similar to the HD2, the HD7 isnt really my cup of tea cuz of WP7. Also, im on T-Mobile
What are you using? Android, winmo? Then what rom? If android try a different rom or kernel.
Now what do you mean by similar to a hd2? Size, processing power, amount of customizability? If it is customizability, then you won't find another phone like the hd2. If it is size and processing power, the sensation of galaxy s 2 will suffice. I'd pick the galaxy s 2 however because over all it is the better device. At least for me.
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What are you using? Android, winmo? Then what rom? If android try a different rom or kernel.
Now what do you mean by similar to a hd2? Size, processing power, amount of customizability? If it is customizability, then you won't find another phone like the hd2. If it is size and processing power, the sensation of galaxy s 2 will suffice. I'd pick the galaxy s 2 however because over all it is the better device. At least for me.
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After I played with my Flyer, I would rather go for HTC EVO 3D
Sensation and SGS II is in the same league. But, soon will be just common spec.
3d is the future although not everyone's taste
Just my 2 cents
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im using android so I would like an android phone, im not sure the Galaxy 2 is for T-Mobile. I have tried various Android roms, I even got rid of everything and went back to winmo and I still have problems. It seems like my phone over heats really easily and my battery life seems to be getting worse. I just want a phone that feels as sturdy as my HD2, my bro has the Galaxy S and it feels like cheap plastic :S
you say your not sure if its on t-mobile.......I'm gonna assume you mean t-mobile US. probably should go for the sensation. Don't know much about the EVO 3D so can't really say anything on it. Also pretty much everyone I know who has/had a SGS1 and moved up to a SGS2 say it definitely doesn't feel cheap like before lol
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im using android so I would like an android phone, im not sure the Galaxy 2 is for T-Mobile. I have tried various Android roms, I even got rid of everything and went back to winmo and I still have problems. It seems like my phone over heats really easily and my battery life seems to be getting worse. I just want a phone that feels as sturdy as my HD2, my bro has the Galaxy S and it feels like cheap plastic :S
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Have you tried changing your battery? If its faulty that could be causing the overheat/freeze issues.
Ever thought of getting another HD2?
is the Galaxy S2 for T-Mo US? I havent tried a new battery, I thought about getting a new HD2 but I think I rather stick with just a normal android phone. I will miss how customizable the phone is though Also the HD7 does look pretty cool but when I tried it on my HD2 the market place didnt really have much....has it changed at all?
The Evo is very similar with the HD2, specs are nearly identical except for the camera and the 4G. But the Desire HD is like an upgrade to the HD2, from which I am also told that a lot of devs are switching over to working on.
I have similar question.
Is there any other device that can be flashed with any OS
Im not happy with HD2
I'd like similar phone to HD2 that can be hacked and flashed with any OS (android, ubuntu, windows)
martinmartiini said:
I have similar question.
Is there any other device that can be flashed with any OS
Im not happy with HD2
I'd like similar phone to HD2 that can be hacked and flashed with any OS (android, ubuntu, windows)
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I doubt that any producer will ever do the mistake to even think to design a device so versatile as HD2 (still!) is...
I'm sorry but my hd2 is perfect and I don't even want another phone right now. Outside of a few minor things exec the best phone on the market isn't much better than mines. My advice is to try out MIUI and I think you'll change your mind.
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