how to keep phone from updating automatically? - Droid X General

hey all -
is the new update going to be automatic or do I have the option to opt out?
I'm not in the mood to lose my root just to gain a few 'bug fix' type features.
just wondering.
b
PS - sorry for the serial posts but I thought it best to keep them separate since they are all different topics.

my understanding is that it is automatic eventually but that if you have bloatware removed/or deodexed etc. then it won't pass the tests and will fail.

ahh - well then that should be ok.
thanks
b

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HELP ! ROM Update to Android 2.0 / 2.1

Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx
you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway
there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.
pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".
Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.
pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.
When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero
Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
Code:
firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288
pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out
@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.
Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
Code:
adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
Code:
fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
Code:
fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)
anon2122 said:
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.
thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?
- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...
Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?

DROID Eris Update/Root Thread: 3.14.2010 -- Root Attained

Quick Notes: If you have suggestions/questions to add to my post please PM them to me and I will update it. I will be paying very close attention to this thread. As a new user I am currently unable to post links, this restriction will be removed in time.
Alright folks, keep it simple, and please don't repeat questions 12 dozen times.
Onto what this post is really about!
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DROID ERIS UPDATE AND ROOT STATUS THREAD --- I am not responsible for anything you choose to do in regards to the steps listed in this thread. By reading and following any/all of these instructions you understand/agree to the fact that you are doing this under your own risk and that if anything goes wrong you had a chance to turn around, but CHOSE TO PROCEED REGARDLESS.
Quick Table of Contents: continue scrolling for more "updated" details
ROOT STATUS: ROOTED NOT YET RELEASED HOWEVER
MOST RECENT UPDATE("non-legit"): 2.1 with Sense
Scroll down for more info!
*NEED IMMEDIATE CONTACT FOR AN ISSUE/QUESTION/INQUIRY??
IRC: irc.thefuzz4.net #roottheeris and #dev (this is listen only for most)
or PM ME!
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***ROOT STATUS***- There appears to be a dev build of 2.1 that is rooted floating around.
The problem is that it is an older build than the leaked 2.1, so anyone who upgraded is now unable to flash to this rooted rom.
Current progress is being pointed at trying to figure out how to downgrade to 1.5 so that we can go to this 2.1 that has SU in it.
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Common Questions about the 2.1 LEAKED update:
Where did it come from?
-It was leaked via some chinese person
Is it SAFE?
-For the most part, yes. There is however a reason that HTC hasnt released it themselves, could be to something that were not capable of seeing, could just be a matter of "filtering"
Are there LIVE WALLPAPERS?
-Not yet.
Am I able to downgrade in the future for a shot at root /// any other reason?
-at the moment, No. Note that the eris wasn't rooted for MONTHS under the "old" update, and being that lots of people are on the new version, theres a likely chance that if there needs to be a downgrade in order to get rooted, the devs will figure out how to do that as well.
Do I VOID MY WARRANTY running this update?
-technically speaking, yes.
If I want to wait, how long until the REAL 2.1 hits the streets?
-suspected release dates are near the end of March IE: end of Q1. Then again, it was also near the end of January and also near the end of February after that.
Will updating to 2.1 cause me to lose all apps, phone settings, music, contacts, & text messages that are saved?
-Anything that is not on your sd card will be WIPED.
Does the 2.1 software make it possible for my Eris to both send AND receive Bluetooth files?
Yes. Things like bluetooth network sharing also become possible.
Noteable Bugs:
1) some users are noticing multi touch issues
2) some users are having trouble with the gmail apk
3) Google Earth, installs but doesn't run (no loss we didn't have it before at all)
4) Making out going calls with google voice doesnt use google voice (same on 2.1 with nexus one). Work around is to make the call from the contacts OR downgrade to an older version of the google voice app.
5) On reboot you may have an authentication error with google, forcing you to relogin.
6) Audio issues during calls/certain apps.
7) Some people are stuck with speaker phone while making calls.
Fixes for bugs?
3) Some people have noted that you can install an older version, which you can get @ (this is a link)goo.gl/Byy5
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***3/3/2010 ERIS 2.1 ANDROID UPDATE*** This update was LEAKED TO US. It is currently suspected to be a variant of RELEASE VERSION.
How to FLASH this update: (please note, there is a certain amount of computer literacy required in order to understand some of these steps. If you are not comfortable with them but wish to continue anyway, good for you, but realize it might be a bit frustrating at times as well as SLOW. Patience is key here)
Some of these steps aren't necessary in order for it to work, this method just attempts to give multiple people the same kind of experience.
*** BEFORE YOU START BE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE 2.1 UPDATE FILE HERE *** www(dot)sendspace(dot)com/file/frqze0
1) Take your SD CARD out of the phone and someHOW plug it into your computer so that you are able to BROWSE ITS FILE SYSTEM. If you are unable to do this, then either find a different way that involves not removing the card (you can do it by just plugging the phone in to the computer and going that route)
2) Create a new folder named OLD DATA or something relative to that in the ROOT of the sdcard. Move everything currently on the card into that folder. Copy that folder somewhere safe to your computer (this is for backup purposes)
3) Copy the file you downloaded earlier, named "PB00IMG.zip" to the ROOT of the sdcard.
4) After you have confirmed the file is on the card, turn your phone off.
5) Insert the card into the phone.
6) Hold the GREEN CALL button and then press power button WHILE CONTINUING TO HOLD THE GREEN BUTTON.
7) After the phone is booted, you will come to a menu that says something along the lines of "press volume down". Press the "VOLUME DOWN" to start the update process
8) The phone will spout off some random stuff and then ask for you to take action. PRESS THE TRACKBALL HERE.
9) The phone will turn off and then turn back on. It will then ask you to take some more action. PRESS THE TRACKBALL AGAIN.
10) Be patient, your phone is now applying the update, make sure nothing happens to it while it is in this state...
11) Go through the HTC setup and make sure everything is peachy.
12) Congrats, your ERIS is now running android 2.1
For questions regarding the situation you now face with your phone, please read on!
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Brief Droid Eris History:
***Eris UPDATE MR2***
This update arrived via Over the AIR for most people. It is based on android 1.5, not much else to say.
i'm a first time poster....looonngg timme follower, i would just like to say that i asked a verizon worker the other day about the actual 2.1 update and they said it's scheduled release is quarter one. quarter one ends at the end of march so its due by then im assuming, i hope they wont screw with us anymore lol but doesnt matter i proudly messed with my first android device. i was rather proud, im a little too used to the jailbreaking process.
Just so people know, our IRC chat is setup on:
irc.thefuzz4.net (round robin, aka random server specific servers are ircd.thefuzz4.net and irc.wastate.net)
General eris chat is at #roottheeris
our OPEN dev chat is #dev , however it is moderated and you will need to request voice to speak. People without dev input are welcome to sit and listen. People will dev input will be voiced and/or op'd/
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Known issues with our 2.1 update
1. Google Earth, installs but doesn't run (no loss we didn't have it before at all)
2. Making out going calls with google voice doesnt use google voice (same on 2.1 with nexus one). Work around is to make the call from the contacts OR downgrade to an older version of the google voice app.
3. On reboot you may have an authentication error with google, forcing you to relogin.
4. Audio issues during calls/certain apps. (I have tried over and over to reproduce this, and can't. 2.1 works flawlessly for me.)
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Numerous older exploits have been tried with no luck.
Tonight we tried flashing the 2.1 rom cooked with su included, signed as a hero rom with a hero gold card. Failed.
jcase
IRC Admin.
Eris junkie.
Regarding known issue #2 (Google Voice) - does anyone know where to download an older version? Thanks for the help.
updated the looks, let me know if its good or not so good
slugabed24 said:
Regarding known issue #2 (Google Voice) - does anyone know where to download an older version? Thanks for the help.
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It was posted in the leaked thread on page 50 something, but here it is (insert http:/ /) docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3k8BMVWRldLMzVlY2MzNTgtY2I3Zi00YzFlLWE3O WItNWVkMzc2NjM0ZDhj&hl=en
I haven't installed 2.1 yet so I personally can't confirm but this is supposed to be G-Voice 0.2.0 which is said to be working.
Recovery Mode Menu Apparently does not exist anymore.
thanks for the info - i can confirm that this works.
CUProf said:
It was posted in the leaked thread on page 50 something, but here it is (insert http:/ /) docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3k8BMVWRldLMzVlY2MzNTgtY2I3Zi00YzFlLWE3O WItNWVkMzc2NjM0ZDhj&hl=en
I haven't installed 2.1 yet so I personally can't confirm but this is supposed to be G-Voice 0.2.0 which is said to be working.
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I can confirm this works. I uninstalled the current version of GV, and installed this version.
I keep just getting the Triangle Exclamation point
I am following the directions, and I am "assuming" I am supposed to go into recovery mode. When I do this, I hit FASTBOOT, since it's the only thing I see as an option. I then get this screen (see picture attached) and nothing happens at all...
Guessing this is not good..
Any help?
DIFFERENT REBOOT MODES:
vol_up + power = recovery
vol_dn + power = hboot
send + power = fastboot
Got it
Thx man! I think it's rollin now! Hopefully gonna make some Hero carriers jealous
2 ?s about 2.1 update.....
Will updating to 2.1 cause me to lose all apps, phone settings, music, contacts, & text messages that are saved ?
Does the 2.1 software make it possible for my Erius to both send AND receive Bluetooth files?
Yes amd Yes,
The Contacts that you have SYNC'd with Google will be saved, but everything else will be erased. Except for what is on the SD Card.
And Yes you can finally send files through bluetooth.
one other thought.....
If I upgrade now, will I still get the official update from Verizon once they finally decide to release it?
Sorry to interrupt, but please use the search button. this section is about root not 2.1. The 2.1 thread is right outside of this one and all the questions are already asked in there. So please do not clutter this thread with non root related Q/A. Thanks and sorry to but in!
PS not trying to come off as an asshole just a tip for ya,
tdavis42 said:
sorry to interrupt, but please use the search button. This section is about root not 2.1. The 2.1 thread is right outside of this one and all the questions are already asked in there. So please do not clutter this thread with non root related q/a. Thanks and sorry to but in!:d
ps not trying to come off as an asshole just a tip for ya,
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To be fair, I had included some guided questions regarding the recently leaked update, only as a filler into what would need to be corrected in the event that root came AND we were able to get some custom roms going.
Personally, I don't mind sifting through more questions and searching out answers for people, and while I don't know that it helps anything to create a second spam thread, I will have to agree that the search function is a valuable tool when there are 900+ posts to go through with possible answers.
Regardless, I've updated some questions and moved some more things around to better address the final goal of this thread, which is in the end to discuss Rooting methods ON 2.1. Getting people to 2.1 is part of that process
I am all for getting people to use 2.1 and their is a 70 page thread for that. I have been over there answering all kinds of questions for a while.

[Q] root/unroot

Hello
Let me start with admitting that I'm a newbie, a green one, whatever you want. I've bought my WF, my first smartphone, one week ago, and after a day a was confronted with my first limitation: I can't make access to the cisco vpn that my university uses.
I've started looking on the internet, and my only hope is a program called VPN connection, which needs root access to work. Not only the fact that I couldn't install that specific application, but also the disappointment of a discovery that the open-source OS was in fact closed, made me want to root my phone.
So I again started to do research on the internet, mostly by night, which makes me sit like a zombie in lessons, but I've learned a lot. However, there are still a few questions, which I just can't find the answer for.. So I'm hoping one of you would be so kind to help me out a bit!
- I've come to find out that rooting te WF just changes the read/write access of the root directory. So rooting an sich will not change any of the files or settings, nor the language (Dutch). Is that right, or is there an install of a complete "customized" (English) ROM which make the cellphone look brand new?
- I've done some research on how to unroot the WF (I'm having a 2 year waranty..). I know you can download the original ROMs here (shipped-roms.com/shipped/Buzz/) but first of all, I don't know which one to pick, and second, will there be a Dutch one there? Because I'm not sure that they will accept the statement that my phone is suddenly turned English.
Those are in fact the only two questions I have (for now ). Thanks in advance to help me entering a whole new world!
Erwin
The Android OS is a linux. And for such OS, there is a user account with UID 0, thats the "root" account, who got all privileges on the system.
If you root your phone, you will give your "user", thats the user that runs the android OS, the ability to gain root privileges. Those are necessary to do administrative changes to the OS, same as on a usual linux OS.
So the root user is able to mount devices in read/write and do other stuff.
Most official Updates are multilanguage and they are official updates from HTC so even on warranty issues there should be no problem with it.
Warlord711,
Thank you very much for giving me this explanation! But when you talk about "root your phone", I still have a question. If I root my phone, it will be by the method of Unrevoked (Unrevoked 3.21). I understand that the user now has root privileges, but how is that being accomplished? Do they flash the phone with a new ROM, who has "build-in" extended privileges, or do they really change the privileges of some maps on the ROM that originally came with the phone?
In extend I want to make sure about something: so if I install an original UK ROM from shipped-roms.com, I can just install it with the clockworkmod on my device and do an official update, witch will make my phone dutch again?
Thanks in advance!
Erwin
No ferther explanation? A pitty..
they replace recovery system, but how they do it, thats a question
I came across this thread hoping for reassurance about not losing warranty in case of unrooting, and I'm joining just to say that Erwin's questions are really accurate, well written and most probably helpful for any other android newbies like me.. so let's answer him/us please!
cignu
ErwinP said:
Hello
- I've come to find out that rooting te WF just changes the read/write access of the root directory. So rooting an sich will not change any of the files or settings, nor the language (Dutch). Is that right, or is there an install of a complete "customized" (English) ROM which make the cellphone look brand new?
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It will not change any of the settings, I myself had it in dutch too. It will be the same as you shut it down, only thing that has changed is the recovery mode (entered by holding the volume down and press the boot key)
ErwinP said:
- I've done some research on how to unroot the WF (I'm having a 2 year waranty..). I know you can download the original ROMs here (shipped-roms.com/shipped/Buzz/) but first of all, I don't know which one to pick, and second, will there be a Dutch one there? Because I'm not sure that they will accept the statement that my phone is suddenly turned English.
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I dont know either which one to pick, but I _DO_ know that if I pick the right one, it will include dutch, together with several others including English.

[Q] Titanium Backup : How to restore all phone parameters (HS, gamedata) JB to KK

Hi!
I am aware that this is a silly question and we have loads of tutorials on the Internet, however, having had many bad experiences, I prefer to ask the question here after I've checked the other topics.
Sorry for that and thank for your help.
I am about to flash KitKat but I would like :
- to avoid to reconfigure all the parameters of my Note 3 (home screen, icons, and all little details who take ages to configure...)
- to save all my games and softwares, including savegames, configuration etc.
I am on 4.3 and I wonder what boxes I need to tick to get everything back during the restore without messing up with the software of the KitKat version.
In my situation, should I only save the apps+datas and not the system apps+datas? If so, how can I save my Android parameters (HS, system menu options etc.)
Thank you a lot!!
Nemorensis
Nemorensis32 said:
Hi!
I am aware that this is a silly question and we have loads of tutorials on the Internet, however, having had many bad experiences, I prefer to ask the question here after I've checked the other topics.
Sorry for that and thank for your help.
I am about to flash KitKat but I would like :
- to avoid to reconfigure all the parameters of my Note 3 (home screen, icons, and all little details who take ages to configure...)
- to save all my games and softwares, including savegames, configuration etc.
I am on 4.3 and I wonder what boxes I need to tick to get everything back during the restore without messing up with the software of the KitKat version.
In my situation, should I only save the apps+datas and not the system apps+datas? If so, how can I save my Android parameters (HS, system menu options etc.)
Thank you a lot!!
Nemorensis
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1, If you update OTA, you might not have to configure anything. You just keep using phone as long as you have no issues. If/when you do, you will need to full wipe and reconfigure. Btw it takes me 1 hr to restore apps and configure everything. Lol.
2. For App+Dats backup, Titanium Backup (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup)
Also, you should buy the Paid version to unlock all features.

Firestick Lite (Sheldon) 7.2.2.3/7.2.2.8 Launcher Replacement and Debloat (No Root)

Delete... Now obsolete on current OS
Hello.
I have a Fire TV Stick Lite running 7.2.2.8.
Gone through the post and applied the "Debloat the Lite of Unnecessary Sh*te", installed all the apks. I went with Wolf 0.1.7 as the launcher.
When running FTVLaunchX I had to run the below two lines first and then perform the permissions.
settings put secure enabled_accessibility_services de.codefaktor.ftvlaunchx/de.codefaktor.ftvlaunchx.HomeService
settings put secure accessibility_enabled 1
The original Amazon launcher still loads first and then Wolf kicks in. I can still access the Amazon launcher by pressing the home key. Also there doesn't seem to be that much change on the main Amazon launcher if any at all.
Am I missing something? Or was I expecting too much?
***** UPDATE
I have tried "Launcher Manager (FireOS 6 & 7)_1.0.2" instead of LaunchX and this seems to work fine for me. Boots straight into Wolf and the Home button also links to Wolf.
Thanks
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I now have it running like a dream with Wolf 0.1.7, looks really nice just how I would want it from stock. Thanks for your help.
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Hello.
After the full debloat I noticed that I wasn't able to connect to the fire stick from my phone with app like you tube and prime video. The phone was just hanging on "connecting to fire stick" when clicking on the "cast" button. After a few attempts I found out that the service "com.amazon.avod" was responsable for making the connection possible from phone. When I enabled it back it started working as normal.
OBSOLETE TUTORIAL FOR FIRESTICK SHELDON. MODS/ADMIN PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD.. THANKS
Still running a version of 7228 but this must have been patched now, just get loads of Java exceptions when trying to do anything
brezzz said:
Still running a version of 7228 but this must have been patched now, just get loads of Java exceptions when trying to do anything
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Should be working fine ... If you're using remote adb shell try pasting in smaller groups of the disable commands.
I noticed it tends to produce errors and crashes the remote adb app when pasting large clusters or the whole list of commands.
I just used it today on a Lite edition Firestick 2020 running 7.2.2.8 new UI.
I kanged @0815hoffi hardwork as some people I know were asking for a debloat AND Custom Launcher guide.... I just copied and pasted hoffis scripts minus the (adb shell part)
E.G "pm disable-user --user 0 *****"
Regards
Edit : OP updated...double tested again on two different models Lite and Newer FTVS-2021
Anything like this for the latest OS?
Bertonumber1 said:
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well you usually don't delete something ! you can just ADD a note " with latest firmware is not working " .. by doing what you did " obsolete .. " " delete " .. you just created more confusion !
EVERYTHING become obsolete.. if you are worried about it just add a note
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well you usually don't delete something ! you can just ADD a note " with latest firmware is not working " .. by doing what you did " obsolete .. " " delete " .. you just created more confusion !
EVERYTHING become obsolete.. if you are worried about it just add a note
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Not that i need to explain myself however i will in this case.
Firstly, due to the amount of people notifying me this was not working on newer fota update i had no choice but to remove it and prevent error.
Secondly, i wrote the post and decided it was best to delete it for the time being because... It was my post.
And finally.. The adb commands given in the first post do not work on any newer ota past 7.2.2.8 due to amazon telemetry within the ui/ launcher... so... until i have time to add my new tutorial for debloating/launcher replacement the post remains as is to prevent user error and screwed devices.
"simply adding a note" is a dumb idea as people being people would still attempt the commands on newer fireos... And who gets the stick for that when it goes wrong? Not you... Me.
Regards
Bertonumber1 said:
Not that i need to explain myself however i will in this case.
Firstly, due to the amount of people notifying me this was not working on newer fota update i had no choice but to remove it and prevent error.
Secondly, i wrote the post and decided it was best to delete it for the time being because... It was my post.
And finally.. The adb commands given in the first post do not work on any newer ota past 7.2.2.8 due to amazon telemetry within the ui/ launcher... so... until i have time to add my new tutorial for debloating/launcher replacement the post remains as is to prevent user error and screwed devices.
"simply adding a note" is a dumb idea as people being people would still attempt the commands on newer fireos... And who gets the stick for that when it goes wrong? Not you... Me.
Regards
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for sure you got your reason ( unless you would have gone out of your mind lol )
i'm just saying that is better to edit the original post and write NOT WORKIN ON LATEST FIRMWARE ( or after 7.2.2.8) than if people are not able to read the post well they should learn !

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