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a complicated rooting/resetting situation

i bought an htc dream/g1 from ebay new. the catch is that it's in chinese (didn't know this when i bought it). i've set it to english, but the market place, among some other system dialogues are still in chinese. i've managed to log into my google account by guessing, but i'm getting error messages i can't read, and the whole market interface is in chinese.
so i CAN'T use the android market to download a file manager, or download anything at all (which seems to be required in order to root it). i can mount the sd card and access it in windows.
what i really want to do is just delete everything on there, os and all, and start from scratch (the same way i could with an iphone). the most important thing is that it be in english. secondly that it run smoothly. after that it would be nice if it could be a sense ui rom, but that is not required, i guess.
please, any help at all would be appreciated! i'm new to android and i can't figure all these issues out at once and in mandarin.

I would suggest downgrading to RC29 or RC7, but those are US and UK firmwares. What firmware version is it? it would be useful for us to have all the information in Settings > About. If it's on 1.5 you should be able to use the 'flashrec' method, but I guess that will ake some trial and error.

HELP ! ROM Update to Android 2.0 / 2.1

Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx

you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.

Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school

BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway

there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528

Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.

sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.

pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".

Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.

pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.

When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero

Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
Code:
firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288

pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out

@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...

Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.

Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
Code:
adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
Code:
fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
Code:
fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)

anon2122 said:
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.

thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?

- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...

Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?

[Q] How to root Android on HD2?

I have Windows 7 64bit, and was wondering if there was a way to root android on my HD2. Thanks!

This must be closed immediately. LOL.

CLOSE NOWWWWWW!!!!!! lol

Geekism said:
This must be closed immediately. LOL.
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Why must it be closed? I asked a simple question.

The roms are already rooted
shub 1.4c
2.10.26
chuckys lite winmo rom
transend 8gb class 6

jenol said:
The roms are already rooted
shub 1.4c
2.10.26
chuckys lite winmo rom
transend 8gb class 6
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OOOOOOOOHHH. I feel so stupid now. And thanks for actually answering the question and not being like "LOLOLOLOOOLOL NOOB LOLOL"

i think it would be ok....im not 100% sure but i been loooking for a long time n i have never seen devs saying tht it requires a 32-bit or 64bit

Ali_Shaikh said:
OOOOOOOOHHH. I feel so stupid now. And thanks for actually answering the question and not being like "LOLOLOLOOOLOL NOOB LOLOL"
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Ali Bhai, dont worry... it can be a tough place
But right, all the available roms already have root access...
Cheers.
Faisal.

what a hell??? this forum is coming to be... i just don't know!
CLOSED THREAD!!!!

Well, since I am not alone wondering about this - I have a mms fix that is supposed to be placed in the root catalog on the SD card: root/system/
The word root seem to have many meanings:
= crack a complete OS.
= place a file in the root catalog.
= use a file managing software within the phone to place a file in a root catalog that is not visible from windows.
Being a n00b I have a hard time following the discussions because of this.

Root your HTC HD2 running android
To start, I am a newbie. The terms "root" has been so difficult for me to follow. I understand why people are getting confused. Anyway, I just rooted my HD2 running froyostone w/sense v3.3. I do apologize if I don't know all the terms and correct language. I needed to change my User Agent profile (UAprof) so that I could receive MMS messages here in Japan using Softbank. BTW, I finally upgraded my Universal for a HD2 only last week. I was hoping to get the rumored HD3, but it was only a rumor so I got the HD2 instead; The HD7 doesn’t tickle me because I think WM7 is lacking. Anyway, I only learned how to installed android a couple of days ago. I originally installed darkstone froyo v1.7. I added some Softbank apps from the marketplace, set the APN, and got MMS to work without any problems. Well I decided to upgrade to my current build. The mms of course stopped working. I spent days searching the internet for how to instructions on how to fix my mms problem and all the answers had the same conclusion. I have to root your android and replace the system files. The term root has numerous meanings in this case and they are all correct. Here’s a brief description how I rooted my HD2 with android. These first steps are in no particular order. Get the new mms.apk file. Get the APN information. Download Android SDK and get the windows USB driver files. Okay, you can download from the android marketplace apps that will root your Android. What these means is that it gives you superuser access to the system files in your phone. Now as I said earlier the mms.apk is in the root of your android phone and is read-only. So you can't paste anything in the folder even as a superuser. Also, you can't browse the files in windows because they are hidden, and no you can't unhide them in system properties as far as I know. So people are telling you the files are in the root of your phone (or our case SD card) but you can't see them without special apps. Long story short, used the cmd prompt in windows to root (which in android language means gain access to the phone root file system) the Android build on the SD card, removed the old mms.apk file, and installed the new one. These instructions are easily searchable on the internet. I will be more then happy to explain the details on how to install this MMS fix with anyone interest. After exhausting myself trying to find this answer on my own, I want people to know three things. One, yes you can root you HD2 with Android build, although earlier comments are right that it is kind of already rooted but it still needs to be rooted to install certain apps. Two, an unlocked phone can send/receive MMS in Japan on Softbank. Third and final, yes there is an app that can change/mask your UAprof.

Looks like you're also a newbie to allot of things then, like sentence breaks, paragraphs etc.

eh....
i have a htc hd2
z4root say my phone is rooted,
then when i try to activate the root ecxplorer in ES file explorer, it tells me that my phone is not rooted...
confused...
so i can understand people asking how to root an hd2...

Root HD2 Android
PLease can someone explain very clearly how we can root HD2?? I'm really not that expert and need your support. BR

You're joking right? did you read this thread at least to the 3rd or 4th post before posting this question? You don't need to root the hd2, all roms for nand already have root access! Please don't post questions when the answer is there if you take a second to read.
muhanad said:
PLease can someone explain very clearly how we can root HD2?? I'm really not that expert and need your support. BR
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Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

it's a perfectly valid question and one which nobody has actually answered with any decency.
To say "your ROM is already rooted" is AN answer, but it doesn't help or inform very much at all.
What he's trying to do is simply update a file in the file system that requires 'root' access and is unable to do so using tools such as root explorer which inform him he does NOT have root access.
So perhaps the tool is incorrect?
Either way, he can't update his phone.
A large number of threads will state "you need root access to update file x, or file y", and yet despite being told he HAS root access he can't view the complete file system, let alone update some files on it.
Is it really too much to read HIS issue and try to help him, rather than glibly repeat 'you have root access'?

Download z4 root from market

What are you referring to? Not the OP or the person I replied to said anything regarding files and root access to do anything, their questions were plain as white, how can I root my hd2? So once again who are you refering to that I didn't see such detailed question regarding having issues with files that needed root access. Even the OP replied and thanked for getting an answer.
TheBrilliantMistake said:
it's a perfectly valid question and one which nobody has actually answered with any decency.
To say "your ROM is already rooted" is AN answer, but it doesn't help or inform very much at all.
What he's trying to do is simply update a file in the file system that requires 'root' access and is unable to do so using tools such as root explorer which inform him he does NOT have root access.
So perhaps the tool is incorrect?
Either way, he can't update his phone.
A large number of threads will state "you need root access to update file x, or file y", and yet despite being told he HAS root access he can't view the complete file system, let alone update some files on it.
Is it really too much to read HIS issue and try to help him, rather than glibly repeat 'you have root access'?
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Thank you
I have the same problem my friend
PLZ make it clear:
On A ROOTED Android How to edit the system files
it fails every time
I have super user and try Astro explorer
Others tried root explorer also no use
I really feel stupid

momello said:
I have the same problem my friend
PLZ make it clear:
On A ROOTED Android How to edit the system files
it fails every time
I have super user and try Astro explorer
Others tried root explorer also no use
I really feel stupid
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You have tried Root Explorer and it hasn't worked? Odd. Well atleast you know it's rooted as it has SU on it. Try ES File Manager. Google how to access the root files using it. You just need to flick through a few menus.

[Q] Help. Big noob with legend andriod.

Hey guys,
First and foremost, I would like to say I have no idea about anything, and everything on this website is in a foreign language to me (can't understand anything), so please bear with me. I set up a new thread because after reading everything, I still don't get anything (being a noob).
I just signed up with vodaphone in australia to get a HTC Legend (my first android and smart phone after using n73 for the last 3years). Everything is going fine until I wanted to get apps from the android market. I didnt have a gmail account, so I signed up for one through my computer. However, when i tried signing in through the phone google account set-up wizard, after waiting 5mins for the phone to communicate with google servers, it fails and the phone would not let me, citing that it cant establish a reliable data connection to the server, being a temporary problem (Tried it with both 3G and wi-fi, also with 2 other friend's log-in). Any help on this would be good. Also, with HTC sync 3.0, I was unable to sync and backup all my sms for a factory reset. Is there any other ways to do this without the apps? Additionally, I cannot update my software to Froyo (Firmware 2.2) FOTA or finding a download for it onto my comp as the phone says my software is up-to-date (But HTC Australia shows that there is an update for Software 2.2 FOTA).
Alright, I know what goes through your mind, get the apps to do that, but without the sign-up for gmail settings, I cant access Market, cant download apps, basically cant do anything (and mind you, I dont know about programming or xda or anything of that sort to check the shell script or whatever that goes on in the forum).
I've went around looking for answers but never really got a definition, mostly about how-to's which I am not interested as I have no idea what they are.
What is flashing?
What is rooting?
What is un-branded or Vodaphone branded (in my case, if it makes sense)?
What is a goldcard and what's it for?
Is RUU or custom rom or rom the same thing? does that have to do with my firmware? and what is it?
What's with downgrading and upgrading for other stuff (to versions 1.1/1.3)?
What is Clockwork and Fastmode and all those other stuff?
What's the latest firmware/software for Legend (2.2 or 3.0) as I have read threads with firmware 1.3 or 3.3 (or something of that sort)?
I know I AM the biggest noob you guys will ever find. Seriously, no websites actually explain all these stuff, and I'm getting paranoid over using an android phone. I know you guys might just tell me to get a simpler phone, but I upgraded to an android to know more about it.
Thanks in advance guys, if any help can be provided. I have a cool phone, but I wanna use it fully.
Regards,
William
Firmware version
2.1-update1
Baseband version
47.39.35.09U_7.08.35.21
Kernel version
2.6.29-8d705e0d
[email protected] #1
Build number
2.10.178.1 CL211993 release key
Software number
2.10.178.1
Browser version
Webkit 3.1

http://lifehacker.com/5717356/set-u...tm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full+(Lifehacker)
^ To know more about your Android.
Try various Wi-fi settings till you get proper Wi-Fi signal.
http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php shows that there is no update available for your build, I suggest you debrand.
I just helped about with the basics, the more experienced people will be able to answer you better. Did you get a black Legend?

hey man, thanks for that. mightily helpful.
however, wat do u mean by various settings for wifi? there arent much to set.
also, what do u mean by debranding as well? like not go vodaphone or smtg like dat?
btw, i have a silver Legend i think? the metallic case.

marder101 said:
Hey guys,
First and foremost, I would like to say I have no idea about anything, and everything on this website is in a foreign language to me (can't understand anything), so please bear with me. I set up a new thread because after reading everything, I still don't get anything (being a noob).
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Be prepared to learn, and to become less of a noob
marder101 said:
I just signed up with vodaphone in australia to get a HTC Legend (my first android and smart phone after using n73 for the last 3years). Everything is going fine until I wanted to get apps from the android market. I didnt have a gmail account, so I signed up for one through my computer. However, when i tried signing in through the phone google account set-up wizard, after waiting 5mins for the phone to communicate with google servers, it fails and the phone would not let me, citing that it cant establish a reliable data connection to the server, being a temporary problem (Tried it with both 3G and wi-fi, also with 2 other friend's log-in). Any help on this would be good.
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Hmm, I got that once before. If there's a different wifi network that you can get access to, try that.
marder101 said:
Also, with HTC sync 3.0, I was unable to sync and backup all my sms for a factory reset. Is there any other ways to do this without the apps?
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There are apps on the market, if you can sort the issue above then check those out.
marder101 said:
Additionally, I cannot update my software to Froyo (Firmware 2.2) FOTA or finding a download for it onto my comp as the phone says my software is up-to-date (But HTC Australia shows that there is an update for Software 2.2 FOTA).
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Yes, some users still haven't received the update. A debrand will help
marder101 said:
Alright, I know what goes through your mind, get the apps to do that, but without the sign-up for gmail settings, I cant access Market, cant download apps, basically cant do anything (and mind you, I dont know about programming or xda or anything of that sort to check the shell script or whatever that goes on in the forum).
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You are correct, I have said about apps. If you temproot using visionary you can install Titanium backup which can backup everything. Both of these are available for "sideloading". Without a file manager on your phone I can't think of an easy way to install them. What I'd do is go to the settings, make sure USB debuging is on (Settings --> applications --> development) and then use adb to install it:
Code:
adb devices
adb install Visionary.apk
adb install Titanium-Backup.apk
This is assuming that you rename the files to Visionary and Titanium-Backup, and have them in the same directory as ADB. For an easy installation of ADB do this:
Download this file and unzip it to C:\Android\ADB\
Open cmd (start orb/button, type "cmd" and hit enter)
In cmd do this:
Code:
cd C:\Android\ADB
Now you can use the adb command listed above. If you have the apk files in the same folder you can pretty much copy-paste those commands
marder101 said:
I've went around looking for answers but never really got a definition, mostly about how-to's which I am not interested as I have no idea what they are.
What is flashing?
What is rooting?
What is un-branded or Vodaphone branded (in my case, if it makes sense)?
What is a goldcard and what's it for?
Is RUU or custom rom or rom the same thing? does that have to do with my firmware? and what is it?
What's with downgrading and upgrading for other stuff (to versions 1.1/1.3)?
What is Clockwork and Fastmode and all those other stuff?
What's the latest firmware/software for Legend (2.2 or 3.0) as I have read threads with firmware 1.3 or 3.3 (or something of that sort)?
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Flashing is the process of writing a new operating system to NAND (internal) memory, otherwise known as flash memory
Rooting is like gaining administrator rights on a Windows PC. On Unix-like systems (Android, Linux, OSX) this is known as the root account, hence "rooting"
Vodafone branded means that Vodafone has it's logos and apps on there. Think of the ROM on your phone as a custom ROM, made by Vodafone. You need to wait for Vodafone to update it. Un-branded simply mean that all of that is gone, it's like having the ROM that HTC meant for it. So we only need to wait for HTC to update it
A goldcard is an SD card that has been specially prepared for making the phone think it's CID is different. I don't fully understand how it works, all we need to know is that it does, and that we need one for rooting
ROM and firmware are the same thing RUU is "ROM Upgrade Utility". It's a method made by HTC for upgrading the phones firmware. A custom ROM is simply a ROM that's been customised. It may be based on the official ROM from HTC, or the open source version of Android
ClockworkMOD is an open source recovery image. It allows us to do full backups of the NAND memory (nandroid backup), as well as easily installing new ROMs/updates. These come in zip files Fastboot is a way to test stuff quickly. It allows you to flash certain parts of a ROM without the need to flash the whole thing, as well as boot from a kernel that isn't flahed to the device. It's a dev thing
The latest version of Android for the Legend (officially) is 2.2. HTC firmwares follow a different numbering scheme. HTC ROMs v. 1.x and 2.x are based on Android 2.1, and v. 3.x is based on 2.2
marder101 said:
I know I AM the biggest noob you guys will ever find. Seriously, no websites actually explain all these stuff, and I'm getting paranoid over using an android phone. I know you guys might just tell me to get a simpler phone, but I upgraded to an android to know more about it.
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Get learnin'
I hope this helps

@GrammarFreak:
Thanks for your post! Even though I thought I kinda understood most things, this cleared a lot up for me!
RMWessels

No worries

ishan_rulz said:
http://lifehacker.com/5717356/set-u...tm_campaign=Feed:+lifehacker/full+(Lifehacker)
^ To know more about your Android.
Try various Wi-fi settings till you get proper Wi-Fi signal.
http://zubu.ca/legend/fota_check.php shows that there is no update available for your build, I suggest you debrand.
I just helped about with the basics, the more experienced people will be able to answer you better. Did you get a black Legend?
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Hello her last day i got a new legend and it was black and it looks like my old htc hero

[Q] New Owner of HTC Tattoo

Dear new friends,
I am a new owner of a pre-owned HTC Tattoo. It has a 2gb sd card.
I am also new to Android. Been a Nokia user all my life.
This newly acquired HTC Tattoo is on Android Version 1.6. No more warranty.
I am told if I "root" the phone, I can bring this phone up to Android 2.2. Here is where the knowledge stops.
Will some kind soul teach me how to do this without screwing things up?
e.g. how to back up all stuff before beginning to the end of the rooting process
I am totally new to this android and htc. Please have patience with me.

Android Padawan said:
Dear new friends,
I am a new owner of a pre-owned HTC Tattoo. It has a 2gb sd card.
I am also new to Android. Been a Nokia user all my life.
This newly acquired HTC Tattoo is on Android Version 1.6. No more warranty.
I am told if I "root" the phone, I can bring this phone up to Android 2.2. Here is where the knowledge stops.
Will some kind soul teach me how to do this without screwing things up?
e.g. how to back up all stuff before beginning to the end of the rooting process
I am totally new to this android and htc. Please have patience with me.
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here are the steps
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/16/how-to-root-the-htc-tattoo/
everything is explained.
if you have some problem ,then write me a privat message
and you can bring the tattoo up to 2.3

hey.
a ot of information can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716282
i assume, that you have installed htc-drivers on your computer and are able to connect it via USB and use it as external storage.
first of all you should completely read this thread, because it is not sturctured or categorized.... to start you have to install install nandroid or clockworkmod...
an easy way is to install the ROM Manager, that can be found in Android's market.
>> market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager
consider, that the ROM Manager requires root-access to be completely usable! easiest way to root i know is maveric's 1click-root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950759
carefully read the readme and hopefully you're not afraid of using the command line
so, now you can install the ROM Manager and start it. when it's running choose the first menu-item: something like "ClockworkMod Recovery-installation".
From now on it should be assured, that your battery is fully charged and i would suggest to connect your phone via USB to your computer.
After this is done your are able to backup your phone. Therefore you have three possibilities:
1. Choose in ROM Manager the menu-item "Reboot into Recovery system"
2. Scroll down and choose "Backup current ROM"
3. Leave ROM Manager, shutdown your phone and turn it on again by keeping Power- and Home-button pressed until ClockworkMod starts (this results in the same as the first possibility)
I prefer possibility one or three so i'll continue on base of this.
In ClockworkMod you have different options, one of them is "Backup and restore" - choose this by using your green call-button. Then choose again "Backup" - now your backup should start and if it completes successfully, your complete data is saved on the phone. Reboot your phone, make it accessable as an external USB-drive and copy the folder \\sdcard\clockworkmod\ on your computer's disk. if anything fails, this is needed to restore your system with clockworkmod.
Now download your preferred custom rom from the list here - i'm using nFinityGB-0.93 and i'm really satisfied about this rom...
download the zip, copy it to the root path on your sdcard \\sdcard\nFinityGB-0.93.zip and for an easier handling rename it to update.zip.
now restart your phone to clockworkmod and and run both wipe-options: "wipe data/factory reset" and "wipe cache partition".
afterwards choose the option "apply update from sdcard" and confirm. now your renamed update.zip will be installed on the system. now reboot the system and a new rom should boot...
for nFinity you should also install the patches mentioned in the thread. these should be installed also by using clockworkmod: option "install zip from sdcard" >> "choose zip from sdcard" and apply the downloaded zip, that should have been stored on the sdcard
in each case always read the complete description in the thread and the readme of the used custom rom!
now enjoy your new rom...
besides that i would suggest to backup the used apps with appmonster to assure, that you don't forget which apps you've had installed
in case of any quesions let me know.
hope this helps.
wormix

Thank you. I sent you a pm.

palimpala said:
here are the steps
everything is explained.
if you have some problem ,then write me a privat message
and you can bring the tattoo up to 2.3
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Thank you. I sent you a pm

Android Padawan said:
Dear new friends,
I am a new owner of a pre-owned HTC Tattoo. It has a 2gb sd card.
I am also new to Android. Been a Nokia user all my life.
This newly acquired HTC Tattoo is on Android Version 1.6. No more warranty.
I am told if I "root" the phone, I can bring this phone up to Android 2.2. Here is where the knowledge stops.
Will some kind soul teach me how to do this without screwing things up?
e.g. how to back up all stuff before beginning to the end of the rooting process
I am totally new to this android and htc. Please have patience with me.
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Best of Luck. We are by your side.

i used the tattoo for more than one year with the original android 1.6
I hoped and will to receive an upgrade... but nothing arrived and nothing will...
when my hope began to lose and my tattoo began to die... i decided to use a custom rom.
Was a dawn of a new era.. now i love my tatto with the custom rom and is really really fast and can use a lot of things you can't imagine!

Special thanks to wormix500 and palimpala
I just wish to thank palimpala and wormix500 for guiding me along patiently to root and custom rom my tattoo. Without them I would not have received this Oscar award. of course my mum too. In case she is comes up behind me as I am reading this post.

tatto needs bigger keys!!
simmonsstummer said:
i used the tattoo for more than one year with the original android 1.6
I hoped and will to receive an upgrade... but nothing arrived and nothing will...
when my hope began to lose and my tattoo began to die... i decided to use a custom rom.
Was a dawn of a new era.. now i love my tatto with the custom rom and is really really fast and can use a lot of things you can't imagine!
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I agree very much...nod nod nod...
But the keyboard....is there anyway we can make it bigger? Just leave 1 line for the sms we are typing...the rest all keys....

Android Padawan said:
I just wish to thank palimpala and wormix500 for guiding me along patiently to root and custom rom my tattoo. Without them I would not have received this Oscar award. of course my mum too.
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ah no problem at all..you are welcome
we should help each other.

palimpala said:
ah no problem at all..you are welcome
we should help each other.
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word!
Sent from my HTC Tattoo using XDA App