Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
rdosti said:
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
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Hello
thats exactly what I like to use the shift for. I am not interested in making phone calls with it.
But the Shift is blocking calls, which should also arrive on my mobile phone...
I think HTC has made this blocking to avoid connection problems when somebody tries to calls the shift (which is not supported).
Is this right?
Might work?
I don't know for sure about T-Mobile. I am using a similar service (they call it "FlexiCard") from E-Plus. They have a function that allows you to designate one of your SIM cards as the primary card. This is the card that will receive calls (and SMS) first, only if this card is not active (phone turned off) or busy a call or SMS will be routed to the other card.
However, there seems to be a service difference between T-Mobile and E-Plus: I have the SIM card in my Shift still designated as the "primary" card. If the modem is turned on, this is interpreted by E-Plus as "busy", so calls go to my phone (which holds the "secondary" card). If the modem is turned off, the SIM card in my Shift is obviously inactive and not visible to the mobile network. So the only reason for me to switch "primary" vs. "secondary" would be to continue receiving SMS messages on my phone rather than the Shift. Unfortunately, for SMS E-Plus does not bother whether the "primary" card is active / busy or not, SMS always go to that card (understandable when you look at how SMS works on mobile networks).
If you don't find any information about switching primary/secondary card in your documentation that came with the card I suggest contacting the T-Mobile hotline. They should be able to tell you whether this functionality is available with your "MultiSIM" and how to switch "primary" between the cards.
Thank you mw65719 four your tip.
I just phoned with T-Mobile support.
They don't support it like Eplus to switch between SIMCards.
It is just possible to define a primary card for SMS service, not for phone calls. Whenever someone calls me both phones are ringing.
So I will have to buy a new contract with T-Mobile just for data transfer, which is more expensive than the combination of phone/data contract.
I have the same issue with the MultiSIM from t-mobile. Both phones (the other one is a Touch) are ringing, after the first ring a line-busy message is generated.
Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
Does anyone has an idea to solve this problem instead of splitting the MultiSIM into two separate contracts?
Have just opened a suuport case at HTC Europe concering this issue. Seems to be a German (and t-mobile) specific problem.....
speech service ?!
gsiakoe said:
Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
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find out how the call canceled
a: is it the 3g modem that set the networkstatus to -> data service only
b: or a apllication that will call canceled - reason busy
see here what i mean
http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/laptop/hyperterminalmulti-sim-anleitung.pdf
I think it's part of the WinMo/SnapVue side.
Vista enables a lan connection with WinMo for internet.
So there could be settings in the registry to enable/disable this busy status.
I try to find somethin, but unfortunately i'm not a pro like others here in the Board.
Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
alexn2 said:
Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
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it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
Idea how to activate phone pad
Pawel062 said:
it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
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I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
Irgendware said:
I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
Pawel062 said:
problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
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I am not interested in using the phone pad.
I like to solve the busy line problem (read some posts above). When activating the speech on modem side, this would be solve and I could use my Shift with my MultiSIM-Card
Irgendware said:
I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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souds interesting ! .. have you try some scenarios ? with 3G enabled, with 3G disabled, with wifi enabled, with wifi disabled ... etc ?
I can't try myself.. but as there are data connection through 3G.. I think that it is possible to find a solution to the step 2 !
Anybody found a solution for this?
Getting my shift soon, and im going for a twin sim solution. would suck if i cant get phone calls on my kaiser cos the shift is on in snap vue mode and rejects the calls.
I am experiencing the same Problem with my Shift.
It is crazy, because my Mobile rings a halt time, then the Shift rejects the call. Afterwards, I have to call back.
The problem should be able to solve, but you have, anyhow, to tell the shifts modem not to reject voice calls. Still, I do not know how to tell the modem
Hello?
Has anyone resolved this issue? I'm a new MultiSIM user, and the idea of not having any internet with my shift is ****ing me off (that would make it as useful as a brick ).
Any resolution is appreciated.
Cheers.
HI @ all, i don´t know, if you fixed that problem.
I´m a multi SIm user too. With the original Radio Version (shipped with german SHIFT) the same problem. After that, i update the radio Version to the Phone edition radio Version:
see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486234
(but here always my WinCE Side was really slow??) so I Downgrade back the phone edition
1.27.35.28 and ce OS version 5.2.1620 (I00 ROm I think)
And now, Phone is working, and never the Multisim usage hangs up.
I don´t know why, i play every 1 month with Shift and upgrade, downgrade something, then the most time shift is not in use, so i don´t make a history what happend...
:-(
But with the new radio Version it will work.
maybe this rom work too:
Cmonex posted another radio for backup. This radio is for original rom (ie all other roms from the forum). Look for the link on page 5, or here
http://rapidshare.com/files/20211808...ift1582123.zip <- this is not for the phone or for this rom
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7...e6ba49b5870170
Irgendware said:
Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
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it happens with all multiple sims when you have all the devices activated!!!...
when you have multiple sims and you have all the devices open...
which device should accept the call ??
it does not work as douplex land line... not all of your mobile devices should ring at the same time ... obviously the one that was opened first and got the signal from your provider should get the line...
the twin sim solution works fine with me ... plus unlimited internet access from phone and the shift...
BUT one device open at a time ...
I wonder if someone can help. I am using a MDA Touch Plus running Niki projects v1 rom, hardspl and radio rom i dont remember which one exactly. My problem is that i can see signal bars atleast 2 or 3 but i cant make or receive calls. When i try to call it just drops the call without ringing. When someone tries to call it goes straight into voicemail. I cannot send or receive sms messages either. Rest of phone(pda part) works fine. If i try any other sim(O2 or Orange) it does not get any signal at all. The phone is sim and cid unlocked.
In desparation i have even tried orignal HTC ASIAN ROM with no luck.
Any ideas??
Thanks in advance.
Update: I am on RUU Nike Radio 1.58.25.14P
Look at this thread,. I've the same problem than you but only depending of the localisation... One answer may help you.
Hey all,
(T-mobile UK btw)
I've been using a WM6 rom I got here ages ago for my Hermes. It's been a great performance boost in that it's cut down and slimline so seems to free up a little more program menu...
However there have been some persistent problems I haven't fixed yet....
I managed to set up Web 'n' Walk with some general settings I found on the internet...but I can't get MMS or voicemail to work.
For voicemail I dial 121, get the same 'the settings have been sent to your phone' and a text arrives saying 'Network Pers' but it never works, not on deleting or rebooting - think it only works on 'normal' phones. Anyway I can then usually ultimately get through to voicemail. Although it stops all the links to voicemail from the handset working.
MMS is the really anoying thing however.
I've noticed one additional problem...which is that now incoming calls terminate my internet connection to web'n' walk and I don't think that was the case before.
Lastly if anyone is using t-mobile UK can I ask them to recommend a good radio rom as the one I'm using seems to have some (occasional) conenction issues and a cracky line - especially if the other person's phone isn't too hot either but I do also occasionally get it on landlines.
MrVarioII said:
Hey all,
(T-mobile UK btw)
I managed to set up Web 'n' Walk with some general settings I found on the internet...but I can't get MMS or voicemail to work.
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Radio ROM - 1.50.00 was ripped from the official T-M UK WM6 upgrade (so I'm lead to believe). Anyway, it's a great Radio for T-Mobile.
MMS - you need to set the MMS up separately from Internet, then send an MMS to yourself (and check it was received) before others can send an MMS to you.
Voicemail - just hold down the 1 key on the virtual keypad, should work.
Terminating calls - If you're using GPRS, an incoming call will terminate the data connection. Only 3G can operate data and voice simultaneously (and sometimes the data call still drops)
If all else fails, use the official WM6.0 ROM from the T-Mobile upgrade website (http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/sa_vario.html), this will include the 1.50.00 Radio ROM and is guaranteed to work as soon as you've called your voicemail and sent an MMS to yourself. I've used CRC's 13.0 WM6.1 ROM with no issues, however.
I have had my Rogers HTC dream for a while and it works great, I am unlocked using it on ATT network here in the US. I have no problems except recently I have noticed because some of my friends tell me that they cannot reach me.
My phone is on all the time and I can get calls most of the time however sometimes I do not receive the call, and the thing about this is that the phone doesnt tell me I even missed it.
Basically I have no idea anyone has called me except when my friend would let me know that they called me and I did not answer. they say that the phone rings for a long time and it does not go to voicemail, but I think that is a different issue as I have not set up my voicemail yet...
but the main problem is that I would get a call and I have no idea I even got that call. As the phone doesn't even notify me that I had someone calling me in the first place.
I have tried a few custom roms and changed to different ones in hopes that might resolve the problem. but it has not.
help thanks
AT&T 3G ?
I noticed your thread, and wondered if there were any other issues with using a EU version phone on US carriers ? I'm thinking of buying a EU phone (rogers, i believe) off ebay so I can enjoy the speedierness of 3g.
Is dropped incoming calls the only problem you've expereienced ?
How/where did you buy yours, and have you had any trouble with buying from overseas if you did ?
Thanks !
(sorry, i didn't really help at all)
only problem i experience is the missing calls... I got mine from someone on ebay who was in canada, I believe it is a rogers canada phone... could it be the rom??, I am currently running the HTC ADP 1.6 DRC83 ROM.
Hi All, I am having problem of SMS missed call alert, in my windows mobile phone (HD2), when i received a call while there is no signal of phone, I will get a missed call SMS alert when the phone is back into signal, this doesn't happen in I9000, I know this might be network related, but I am using the same Sim card and I couldn't find anywhere to enable this function.
Do you all have SMS alert telling you your missed call? Or is this an issue of I9000 or even Android?
p.s. It's been a long time since my last post, nice to see you all here!
anyone has any idea? it really bother me since I now don't know who has call me when my phone has no signal....
Pretty sure that's a service provider feature and nothing to do with the phone.
that's what I thought, but I use the same sim card, and it was working fine on my HD2 before, do yours give you sms alert?