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Daily, my phone downloads an update and attemps to install it. Everytime it say the update has failed after a restart. I am rooted and running bootstrap. Do I need to update some non normal way
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What is your system version?
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Currently says 2.2.20.a955
It downloads and starts the install of 2.3.20 but it never finishes successfully
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If the OTA update fails I would flash the 2.3.2 sbf that will update it. There are tutorials in the droid 2 android development section.
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Did you remove any of the apps after rooting? The update fails if the preinstalled apps are not present. I put mine back and the update worked fine, then I re-rooted.
I've found that having the Bootstrap installed causes the update to fail (probably messes with the update process). I was running Fission, and restored a backup I had made when my system was stock. Upgrade failed, so I tried unrooting. Still failed, so I restored from the 2.3.20 SBF, which brought me up to date.
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Did you remove any of the apps after rooting? The update fails if the preinstalled apps are not present. I put mine back and the update worked fine, then I re-rooted.
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I was just going to ask that. You are correct...
I remember reading about having to unroot your phone from the Froyo update. I have the Z4root but it only has a root button.
1. Is it advisable to unroot for OTA update?
2. Any resources for Z4unroot?
Thank for helppin' a n00b out.
It is correct that you'll need to have your phone unrooted to receive the update. Are you rooted with z4 now? If so you should be able to click on z4 and have the "unroot" option appear. If it doesn't appear I have no idea where you should go. Did you do a nandroid backup as well? !
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Unrooting has never been necessary. You just need to be on the stock rom without any system apps removed.
How about frozen apps in Titanium Backup... need to unfreeze?
Dr, you're saying leaving phone rooted will not stop ota? I don't want update. Have frozen 2.2.1 updater in titanium and some other bloatware as well. I was informed doing all this would stop update.
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Being rooted will change nothing about the update. I can't speak to how Titanium Backup freezes apps, but I know in the past if someone removed/renamed apps in the /system/apps folder the update failed.
You should google/search this site for answer on how to avoid downloading the update if that's what you want.
What needs to happen in order for you to receive the update is that you must be on stock blur rom that came with the phone as well as not have any programs that prevent it from updating IE bootstrapperx, titanium pro, romwork (or w/e its called) etc. A lot of programs used to do Rome like the ones mentioned above have built in code to tell the ota update to basically go **** itself
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PM me i'll hook you up
I didn't have to unroot when I did the 2.2 OTA update. But just before I updated, I did unfreeze all the crapware I froze with Titanium Backup. Didn't have a single issue. Once I was on 2.2, I froze all the crapware again.
i have never un-rooted my phone for any updates. They always pass fine if rooted. Only fail if you have messed with bloatware or have a bootloader installed. You even keep the Super User App, but it just has lost root rights so it will no longer work until you re root the device
I have my rooted transformer and am trying to update but stow a quarter way throught the install and gives me an android Guy with a triangle with a "!" Sign in it... stock everything just rooted please help
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Fixed!!!!! I used Brks Asus transformer rootkit script to root which installs an insecure bootimage to work and this is what caused the problem, I just plugged my trandormer in and restored my original files then the update went on fine first try!!!! Thanks for the help!!!!
Did you install Clemsyn/Blades OC kernel? More than likely this is causing your problem.......
I'm getting the same error. Running 3.2 stock but rooted, no modified kernel. Only thing I modified was the Netflix patch which doesn't seem like it's needed now. Is there a flash able zip for this new update?
You can't update the normal way after rooting.
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You can't update the normal way after rooting.
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Actually, thats not true. I was running on stock 8.6.5.6 rooted, and was able to update sucessfully. I verified the update in the settings. I have also verified with root checker that i am no longer rooted, as i was before the update. I bought my transformer only a few weeks ago. It came with 3.1 and i updated to 3.2 before rooting. Wonder if that or the rooting method has something to do with why i was able to update while rooted.
I rooted using the method in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125714
oilerseberle14 said:
I have my rooted transformer and am trying to update but stow a quarter way throught the install and gives me an android Guy with a triangle with a "!" Sign in it... stock everything just rooted please help
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Same happened to me. As I understand it just rooting doesn't prevent future OTA updates, hence why I was prompted to download this latest, but why it now after failing it tells me there is no longer an update available is beyond me. I can only think ASUS has pulled it for some reason.
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Taomyn said:
Same happened to me. As I understand it just rooting doesn't prevent future OTA updates, hence why I was prompted to download this latest, but why it now after failing it tells me there is no longer an update available is beyond me. I can only think ASUS has pulled it for some reason.
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You only get it offered the once. Your device is then marked as updated at Asus end. If it didn't work because you were rooted, then tough...
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Actually, thats not true. I was running on stock 8.6.5.6 rooted, and was able to update sucessfully. I verified the update in the settings. I have also verified with root checker that i am no longer rooted, as i was before the update. I bought my transformer only a few weeks ago. It came with 3.1 and i updated to 3.2 before rooting. Wonder if that or the rooting method has something to do with why i was able to update while rooted.
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Hmm interesting.
Which method did you use to root it?
Maybe we can pin point why the updates are failing for some people after rooting. I would like to root mine if it was 100% that the OTA updates would still work, even if I had to root it again after each one.
magicdave26 said:
Hmm interesting.
Which method did you use to root it?
Maybe we can pin point why the updates are failing for some people after rooting. I would like to root mine if it was 100% that the OTA updates would still work, even if I had to root it again after each one.
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I'm having problems with OTA updates and have used Brk's ASUS Transformer HC3.2 RootKit Script to root my device.
I probably did something very stupid...in which I factory reset the device, but noticed that "superuser" is still installed in the apps list. I'm wondering now if i have to re root the device to uninstall superuser and then do another factory reset and then see if the OTA update works? suggestions appreciated
I always look at the updater script in the package before I update. This script contains a bunch of asserts that check the integrity of certain files before it will apply the update. If you can get the update package just open " \META-INF\com\google\android\updater-script" with notepad and that will show everything that's happening when the update occurs including the file asserts it makes. If you've modified these files then it will not update. 8.6.5.6 initially didn't work for me but by checking the script I found the problem was my srs_processing.cfg file because I tried to fix my speaker balance and this was a file that the script asserted. After restoring the original file I was able to update with stock recovery even though I had modified other system files. As long as the specific files the update checks are ok the update will proceed.
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I'm having problems with OTA updates and have used Brk's ASUS Transformer HC3.2 RootKit Script to root my device.
I probably did something very stupid...in which I factory reset the device, but noticed that "superuser" is still installed in the apps list. I'm wondering now if i have to re root the device to uninstall superuser and then do another factory reset and then see if the OTA update works? suggestions appreciated
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You need to UnRoot it, I don't think factory reset makes any difference to rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303
magicdave26 said:
Hmm interesting.
Which method did you use to root it?
Maybe we can pin point why the updates are failing for some people after rooting. I would like to root mine if it was 100% that the OTA updates would still work, even if I had to root it again after each one.
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The above post about altering certain files appears it might have something to do with it. I rooted using this method... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303
But it was V2 when i used it. It is now currently V4.
You can re-download the update if you clear your DMClient cache.
Follow the instructions in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1106054.html
I had the error with the Android + exclamation mark so I unrooted (reflashed both the stock ROM AND the stock recovery - to get rid of clockworkmod) then cleared the DMClient cache and was I able to update OTA.
As far as I am aware the OTA will not install if you have clockwork Mod flashed for recovery. But if you have rooted without flashing over stock recovery ie clockwork mod not installed the OTA should work but you will lose root by updating.
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As far as I am aware the OTA will not install if you have clockwork Mod flashed for recovery. But if you have rooted without flashing over stock recovery ie clockwork mod not installed the OTA should work but you will lose root by updating.
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Good point. I did not have clockwork mod recovery installed. Had stock recovery, stock ROM rooted.
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I used brk's rootkit script and just restored the original bootimage and it installed perfect let me know if it worked for you guys as well
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I tried flashing back original boot and recovery image, update still failed, and now it fota won't come back. Cleared DMClient cache and hard reset. Guess I'm out of luck until someone releases a flashable version of the update?
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I tried flashing back original boot and recovery image, update still failed, and now it fota won't come back. Cleared DMClient cache and hard reset. Guess I'm out of luck until someone releases a flashable version of the update?
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Same thing happened to me. Tried all the above, and can't get the update to come back.
Have any of you changed original system files whilst rooted? That's why it was failing for me. I managed to get the update again but it failed. I got it once more after it rebooted but took a copy first, unrooting made no difference. Unlike the downloadable firmwares from the ftp site which I checked out, the update script checks the integrity of a ton of files mainly the system apps that cannot be changed without root. If any have changed the script aborts.
Unfortunately even though I had backed up all of them with Titanium Backup, it wouldn't restore them and TB just hung. I tried all its options but nothing helped - a little worrying.
In the end I copied off the TB backup directory to a USB stick and used the NVflash recovery to restore back to factory. I then performed the upgrade again to both the tablet and dock without issues. Four hours later I have it almost back to where I want it.
Hope this helps some of you, even though it's not the best process, but the update imho is worth it
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OK I did not find this easily here, so am posting as a new thread - mods please delete if appropriate.
I had a rooted Atrix running 4.5.91 for ages, no issues. In looking for how to upgrade I came across a thread with the usual complicated series of steps and a side-note about OTA RootKeeper (find in Market).
So backed up (TBPro). Installed OTA RootKeeper. Unrooted. Verifyied it had. Re-rooted, to make sure it worked!
Then Unrooted and accepted the OTA upgrade.
Updated with no issues.
Restored root with no issues. All previously superusered apps still working fine, etc.
I did not find anything describing this very simple process anywhere, so thought I'd post.
(Only casualty of the upgrade is WeatherBug Elite which seems to be unable to connect - off to investigate now as mail, internet and everything else working fine).
Doesnt work
It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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That is not true.
I actually posted that it worked for me in one of the other rooting threads. I did a little different than OP. I didn't unroot for the update. The OTA broke my root and I restored it using the app.
Installed Voodoo. Chose to backup (protect or whatever the option was) the root. Installed OTA. Went into Voodoo and restored root. It worked without any problems. Works as long as you have root before doing the update so I'm not sure what you mean that it doesn't keep the root because it worked for me and OP. I have the ATT version in case it matters.
Worked like a charm for my phone. If you google, you can find specific instructions on the web about the process of how to do it (since the app itself gives no instructions).
Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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i have bootloader unlocked, rooted and CWM flashed.i installed voodoo OTA keeper , saved the all the root stuff with that app then did temp un-root and installed OTA, when it finished installing i just went to the app and hit re-root and it worked.. checked it with root checker
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Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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Should work the recovery is its on part of the flash storage on the phone so i don't believe it matters much to the phone once you get cwm on there when updating through OTAs.
broke wifi
I was rooted. Hid the root, uninstalled superuser. Did OTA. Unhid root and reinstalled superuser.
Now my wifi disconnects about every 20 minutes for a few seconds then reconnects.
Can't find a fix.
Atrix 4G Unrootable after OTA Rootkeeper
OK, technicially it is still rooted, but it loses Shell Root. OTA Keeper. After I re-root or restore root with OTA Rootkeeper, all the check marks are checked off in the Status of Voodoo OTA RootKeer EXCEPT Root permission granted. Superuser app installed, Device roote, Filesyste supports root protection and Protecte su copy available are all checked, but the device does not allow permission to important apps I need and are the main reasons I root my phone. I couldn't care less about ROMs and fancy cosmetics. I need functionaity that this OTA Rootkeeper has cost me. I have tried reflashing, restoring to factory settings everything, and I still can't fully root my phone. superoneclick hangs at step #7, manual root gets an error message "device full" all because this OTA rootkeeper app has completely locked out other root methods and has an incomplete re-root method.
and that is the truth.
My Atrix was rooted using SuperOneClick. I have system version 4.5.91, Android version 2.3.4. Bootloader not unlocked. No CWM or any special ROMS installed.
I've been getting the constant nagging of the 2.3.6 update, but I don't want to lose root. I have ota rootkeeper app, and it looks like the instructions from the OP are simple enough.
My question is, is my situation similar enough to the OP's so I can go ahead with the update? I rooted my phone mainly to use Barnacle Wifi Tether, so definitely want to keep using that after the update.
Just thought people might like to know if you unroot via motoroot or pwnmymoto and then install the OTA, the entitlement hack sticks through the update. I only rooted for that reason and now that it stuck I don't need to re-root!
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ssgtob1 said:
Just thought people might like to know if you unroot via motoroot or pwnmymoto and then install the OTA, the entitlement hack sticks through the update. I only rooted for that reason and now that it stuck I don't need to re-root!
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Yes you are correct it was this way on the droid razr throughout all the updates that I did. Anyways you can still have the joy in testing and go ahead and root it you can always hide root after rooting.
ssgtob1 said:
Just thought people might like to know if you unroot via motoroot or pwnmymoto and then install the OTA, the entitlement hack sticks through the update. I only rooted for that reason and now that it stuck I don't need to re-root!
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Okay, this is exactly what I would like to do to my Maxx. Don't really use root except for the wireless tether hack. What is the entire process you did if you don't mind me asking? I am currently rooted using pwnmymoto. Does it go something like this:
1. Download update.
2. Place file in correct location.
3. Unroot using pwnmymoto
4. Install update.
5. Enjoy Droid Maxx with tether and newest OTA Update.
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ssgtob1 said:
Just thought people might like to know if you unroot via motoroot or pwnmymoto and then install the OTA, the entitlement hack sticks through the update. I only rooted for that reason and now that it stuck I don't need to re-root!
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Can you tell us more about your setup? do you have a custom recovery? Are there any other system modifications? I am rooted with root my moto, & I have the entitlement hack, but I do not have a custom recovery. Were you pushed ota or did you download it from another source? the information is appreciated.
No customs recovery....I clicked unroot from the menu in motoroot and flashed the update zip from stock recovery. No other system mods.
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DroidJoe said:
Cool! Thats great news. Im going to do it and post results since i, and many otyhers are in the same boat. But, for us noobs out there, can you list the steps with a little more detail? Basically, start with pre-reqs, file download info, correct folder location, etc. I'll do it if you want?
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I'm impatient: here we go.....this is what I did, it worked for me. As always, I'm not responsible for bricked phones...yada, yada, yada, proceeded at your own risk.
Prereqs: Maxx with original 4.2.2, MotoRoot 1.1 by Jcase, entitlement hack optional for free hotspot, no mod recovery, safestrap or non-stock bootloader installed. (If you do, follow instructions posted by AndrewC 2 posts below. Cheers!)
1. Download update. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513563). Thanks Kickbut101.
2. Place file in correct location. (Copied from download file to sdcard file using esfile explorer while rooted)
3. Unroot using motoroot 1.1 (reboots phone, once powered up, you need to power down again).
4. Install update. (First, while holding *down* volume key, then press and hold power 5 seconds. Boots to recovery. Go down one to "recovery" and hit volume up to select. May be tricky. Find sdcard ota update file and hit power to select. Should install. Sit back and enjoy your fav beverage for about 2 or 3 minutes.
5. Enjoy Droid Maxx with tether and newest OTA Update.
I was told that I do not need to unroot if I am rooted via motoroot. Is that true?
If I do have to unroot before the ota, can I reroot afterwards using Motoroot?
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Piaband said:
I was told that I do not need to unroot if I am rooted via motoroot. Is that true?
If I do have to unroot before the ota, can I reroot afterwards using Motoroot?
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You have to unroot if you want your phone to not bootloop once you take the OTA. Afterwards you can use RockMyMoto to root again.
Unroot using House of Moto
Root after OTA update using RockMyMoto
Check here to download the OTA
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You have to unroot if you want your phone to not bootloop once you take the OTA. Afterwards you can use RockMyMoto to root again.
Unroot using House of Moto
Root after OTA update using RockMyMoto
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I'm sorry. I don't understand a few things.
Why cant I just unroot using the Motoroot app that I rooted with? Are you sure Motoroot'ed phones need to be unrooted. This was the early root provided by jCase, it doesnt have anything to do with safestrap, the bootloader, or the recovery.
I'm getting some conflicting info here and I don't want to cause myself any headaches when I accept the OTA. I really appreciate the help.
I really wish jCase or someone would go over all of the root methods and how to OTA update with each one. I just feel like there has been a lot of different root methods that have come out.
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I'm sorry. I don't understand a few things.
Why cant I just unroot using the Motoroot app that I rooted with? Are you sure Motoroot'ed phones need to be unrooted. This was the early root provided by jCase, it doesnt have anything to do with safestrap, the bootloader, or the recovery.
I'm getting some conflicting info here and I don't want to cause myself any headaches when I accept the OTA. I really appreciate the help.
I really wish jCase or someone would go over all of the root methods and how to OTA update with each one. I just feel like there has been a lot of different root methods that have come out.
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If you want to be able to update to the latest OTA then you will have to follow the steps provided in the links to get back to a stock system. There are no if, and, or buts about it. When you used the MotoRoot/PwnMyMoto exploit you wiped out your stock recovery. No recovery=bootloop. The only root methods available are PwnMyMoto and RockMyMoto (will work with new OTA) both by jcase.
Again, not responsible for a bricked phone, but all I had to do was use the motoroot app by Jcase to unroot after putting the ota file on my sdcard. The unroot option reboots to non-root. I powered down and booted into recovery and applied the ota zip file. That was it. No boot loops. I had no system or framework changes, and no moded recovery. Just the entitlement hack. Worked no problem. House of moto is a safe precautionary step to take but it was unnecessary in my case. YMMV.
For some reason I am unable to unroot. I have tried multiple times. I have launched the unroot option from motoroot and rebooted over and over again. I also downloaded pwnmymoto to try there but no luck.
Any one know another way to unroot? I just want to keep the entitlement hack if possible. Worst thing about all this is my phone downloaded the update so I keep getting a message to install it.
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Nathanjb7 said:
For some reason I am unable to unroot. I have tried multiple times. I have launched the unroot option from motoroot and rebooted over and over again. I also downloaded pwnmymoto to try there but no luck.
Any one know another way to unroot? I just want to keep the entitlement hack if possible. Worst thing about all this is my phone downloaded the update so I keep getting a message to install it.
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That's weird. It has worked for me multiple times.
I think you're best option is probably to fxz with saved data. That takes you back to stock. So I don't think it will keep the mobile hotspot.
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I just want to post for those of you that rooted via Motoroot v1.1. This was the original root solution provided by Jcase.
I have updated my Maxx without removing root and it worked just fine.
I was rooted via Motoroot v1.1, I have the mobile hotspot hack running, and some apps that use root. No other changes were made to my device.
The update installed perfectly, my device still has root access and the mobile hotspot hack intact.
***warning*** Motoroot is different than the root solutions jCase provided later on that changed the recovery/hboot partitions. If you don't know what you're doing, you might be better off to FXZ to unrooted device before installing the update.
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I just want to post for those of you that rooted via Motoroot v1.1. This was the original root solution provided by Jcase.
I have updated my Maxx without removing root and it worked just fine.
I was rooted via Motoroot v1.1, I have the mobile hotspot hack running, and some apps that use root. No other changes were made to my device.
The update installed perfectly, my device still has root access and the mobile hotspot hack intact.
***warning*** Motoroot is different than the root solutions jCase provided later on that changed the recovery/hboot partitions. If you don't know what you're doing, you might be better off to FXZ to unrooted device before installing the update.
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i am in the same situation, rooted with just motoroot and i can confirm that i just ran the ota and it went through with no issues and was able to retain root.
Andrew C said:
If you want to be able to update to the latest OTA then you will have to follow the steps provided in the links to get back to a stock system. There are no if, and, or buts about it. When you used the MotoRoot/PwnMyMoto exploit you wiped out your stock recovery. No recovery=bootloop. The only root methods available are PwnMyMoto and RockMyMoto (will work with new OTA) both by jcase.
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That's not correct: MotoRoot DOES NOT replace the stock recovery - PwmMyMoto DOES.
If you were rooted with MotoRoot - you dont need to do anything to take the update. You can take it even while rooted.
If you were rooted with PwnMyMoto - then yes, you need to unroot and flash the stock recovery.
Anyone have this working on Maxx with 4.4 update, I am unable to locate the entitlement check location.
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Anyone have this working on Maxx with 4.4 update, I am unable to locate the entitlement check location.
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Thank baby jesus and buy me a beer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48680232#post48680232
CrazyRussianXDA said:
That's not correct: MotoRoot DOES NOT replace the stock recovery - PwmMyMoto DOES.
If you were rooted with MotoRoot - you dont need to do anything to take the update. You can take it even while rooted.
If you were rooted with PwnMyMoto - then yes, you need to unroot and flash the stock recovery.
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Has anyone taken the 4.4 update with motoroot yet? results? I took the camera update with motoroot and still rooted. I like it cause my /system is still write protected and i can still 1 click unroot if need be.