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I come to the Droid X planet from the planet WinMo..... On my previous planet I frollicked in the flash-cooked-rom playground til I was dizzy & had a too-much-cheese-cake belly ache....so I waited 45 minutes & frollicked some more.
I've read all about rooting here, I get it. I thought, before arriving, that I'd be rooting the very night I got the DX, but that night came & went ... and so did about a week now.
I'm loving this phone in stock mode. Its so much better & faster & slicker than my Omnia that I can't honestly find a reason to root.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the primary benefits to rooting are:
More thematic control
The ability to tether
marginally better battery life
the ability to overclock
So I'm all the way through a day at work w/ some calls, 10 to 20 texts, a couple of browser sessions, and 2 hours of mp3 play which lands me home w/ 40-50% battery left.
I just don't need to tether (although it'd be cool....and I'd prolly do it)
The ability to put a picture of my honeymoon in Kauai is all the Thematic control I need.
I'm already surfing while I listen to the PowerAmp MP3 player...how much faster does it need to be that I wanna overclock it? (I mean, I get how cool it is to actually do it & enjoy the observed performance bump, but......then I'm used to it being that fast)
Why do I wanna do this? I'm not trying to debate you, I believe you all like it better...so it IS better..but why might I like it better?
Talk to me like if you get ONE MORE root convert you'll get the toaster.
< used car salesman schtick >So....what's it gonna take for YOU to put ME in a rooted X today? < /used car salesman schtick >
It's all about what you like. If you are satisfied with stock so be it. I too was satisfied with stock, but the more I hung around these forums and read. The more curious I became. Rooting and unrooting is ridiculously easy. One click. I don't use tethering so I won't be able to convince you. However on battery life it is no contest. I used to be at 40 percent at noon with heavy usage. Once I rooted and changed roms (apex 1.4.1) I saw an enormous improvement. Now I am at 50 percent by 6 at night. I make a lot of calls during the day (25+) and I am checking email and what have you. It all comes down to how happy you are with what you have. I could be happy with stock again (I actually don't mind blur). Good luck with your decision, but I must warn you. Staying around these forums will not help you stay with stock for very long.
Edit: I wouldn't make a very good car salesman.
Blur-less ROM. 'nuff said.
See, now I'd read more "marginal" battery life improvement....your experience is a significant improvement.
And yes, hanging around here is how I got to be a flash-addicted on my previous planet....all to the good I might add, although MAN I could blow some hours on that.
I'll have to do some more reading on Blur and Blur-less.
i too came from the omnia. loved that phone. ive had my DX for a few weeks now, and aside from changing how it looks drastically i havent had the need to root or ROM the phone at all so far. although, the wifi tethering is the one reason i will end up rooting later this weekend, i use that a TON throughout my workday. i have been kind of avoiding it, but its something that has been a hassle since i changed phones. im more interested in hearing more about this "oneclick" root someone in here mentioned, ive read the sticky and probably everything else in this forum about rooting the DX and havent come across a one click method so far. so, apparently ive missed the best part?
Hanover....I found this:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/27/root-and-unroot-your-droid-x-with-1-click/
...but it looks like a bunch of X-ers standing around the edge of the pool daring each other to jump in & report back. I like the "Noobs Guide" here better.
Another Rooting benefit I forgot to mention was how COOL backing up the state of the phone would be. I'm guessing that's App and Settings.....from WinMo flashes I loved the Dir you could put on the SD full of the apps & settings so that if the ROM you were flashing included this particular feature, those things would be loaded & setup from the get-go....forget what it was called; flippin fabulous. This backup capability that apparently comes along w/ Rooting (which isn't available from stock? ) sounds even better.
Anybody wanna tell me what they hate about Blur?
This discussion has a few links to Blur definition and commentary.....I guess I "like" the Blur stuff, although apparently it's been diluted to a palatable level in the X's 2.2.1 Android release.
I think its creepy keepin my schtuff in teh "cloud"....until I want it reloaded to my phone & poof! Its done...then its more cool than creepy
So far I've gotten
WAY better battery management (not just a little better)
Gotta Tether
And to that list I'd add the backup ability about which I'll have to read more.
So come on Rooters.....I'm still wanting to hear the GREATEST thing for you in your new ROM that Stock never provided.....
I had the tilt before coming to the X and I loved that phone. The "one click" method I was talking about is called z4root. You don't technically click it. It is an .apk that you run. Then click either temporary or permanent root. If you click permanent root, the next time you run it unroot will appear. If you get DroidX bootstrap you can make a nandroid backup of your current phone. Everything will be saved except the data from your apps. You would have.to use titanium backup for that. Then you could experiment with roms and if you don't like them go back to your backup. Which would put you back at stock. You can also make more than one backup. Keep reading and before you know it you will break down.
Just to let you know a little more between the blur and blur"less" roms. Since blur is part of motorola when a dev takes the blur out of the rom some of the functionality of the phone is lost. I.e. no hdmi, camera is less than stellar and etc...now you can just get the blur .apk for the camera. But you still lose hdmi out.
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Thanks....I really like the camera....seems better than my Omnia's ....maybe I'm just on a honeymoon w/ the X
I'll have a few more laps in the pool here & then I'll giver a go. I mean, if I can fairly easily bop back to stock, then what's the cost? (well...besides the unlikely bricking).
So I guess I'll need to figure out which things are "Blur" and which things are "Android"....for instance:
can anybody tell me if thiese things remain in blurless ROMS?
The little red target that moves the cursor in text boxes? (love that)
the voice mic to talk in text in most text boxes?
syncing to/from my Gmail for contacts & calendar?
can I have "some" of the Motorola widgets of my choice? (or are they just bone cuz they "are" blur?)
Again, I can figure these things out first hand or read up, just checkin if one of you wanna chime in some more.
Great info. THanks for playin.
my reasons are quite simple for rooting my dx.addless apps/over clocking/"disabling"some factory installed apps/wifi tethering(not being stuck paying verison 20 bucks a month to do it).
Another reason to root and ROM is "New Phone Syndrome". I was excited like a kid in a candy store when I got my X. You couldn't pull my fingers from it. After 3 months I started to get bored. Don't get me wrong I still loved it but I needed new meat and waiting another 21 months for an upgrade didn't cut it. So if all those reasons to root and load a ROM like tethering, battery life, overclock, etc isn't good enough for you, then consider this...its like having a new phone when you load a ROM. Just my 2 cents.
DX CFU LIB 1.5
It almost sounds like you want to be convinced on something you kind of want to do because your bored,
About ROMs. Think of it like this...take two LCD TVs, one is 1080p one is 720P...if they are in separate rooms, you will never be able to tell the difference. Side by side, yes, you can see the difference, marginally. To me, all flashing a ROM does is change the transitional speed between screens, apps, etc., and remove the bloat ahead of time so you don't have to manually do it. That's my opinion. (disclaimer for the trolls ) And to be honest, that is where mainly all the praise comes from having a so called " fast ROM ", over stock. Motorola's stock transition times are slow (blur) and developers customize these settings to probably be 0. Other then that, I have had two brand new Droid X's side by side and there is no difference. Heck I have had four of them side by side and can't tell a difference in anything really besides transitioning in tasking.
How much time are people really spending transitioning between the app drawer and the home screen is beyond me lol but running any rom while in an app is never going to make a difference on a phone call, text, taking a picture etc.
If I could change these transition times myself (much like on a PC), I would love to run the stock ROM as it's 100% stable and smooth and I don't have to sacrifice a thing. If you want a different look once in a while like a black top bar or new icons, flash a theme for stock rom or an icon pack or, make your own like I do.
As far as rooting, yes, rooting for me is a must.
I root so I can have an exact backup to the state my phone was in before I start to dink around with it. I like to change my battery icons, make all my own icons and such so it helps when I flash or edit the wrong file. I like to be able to backup all my apps with a one click install after I go back to stock if need be. I like to be able to tether and to know I have that ability because times have arose when I needed to. And last but not least, have the ability to download and install non-market apps and content. There are websites out there that have plenty of apps and content not available the market that I use. Probably my biggest reason I root. Some apps require root so that will be your preference if you use those specific apps.
If you enjoy overclocking, that's another reason to root. The DX is not a PC though, I don't need to overclock to make a call and I am not playing Crysis on max resolution lol. If you are OCD about watching your benchmark scores go up and down, then overclock away!
Other then that, I have always praised that a stock, rooted Droid X with all it's bloatware removed is perfect in every way. The hardware on this awesome device is really all that you may want in a smart phone. It handles everything I throw at it and it's reliable for me. Overclocked or not, I can't tell the difference between 1Ghz and 1.3Ghz and that's on my phone alone.
Everything always comes down to preference. If you don't have a specific reason to root then don't. Unless you’re bored that is, lol.
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my reasons are quite simple for rooting my dx.addless apps/over clocking/"disabling"some factory installed apps/wifi tethering(not being stuck paying verison 20 bucks a month to do it).
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Me too. Tried all the roms, all had some shortcommings. I am now back to stock, rooted, bloat removed, themed and loving it. Best batt life I have had.
Stock , rooted, bloat removed, theme-able, sounds like a dream come true.
I appreciate the insight.
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i too came from the omnia. loved that phone. ive had my DX for a few weeks now, and aside from changing how it looks drastically i havent had the need to root or ROM the phone at all so far. although, the wifi tethering is the one reason i will end up rooting later this weekend, i use that a TON throughout my workday. i have been kind of avoiding it, but its something that has been a hassle since i changed phones. im more interested in hearing more about this "oneclick" root someone in here mentioned, ive read the sticky and probably everything else in this forum about rooting the DX and havent come across a one click method so far. so, apparently ive missed the best part?
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Z4 root! One click! just get the link to download the app if it's not in the market.
Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those (clarification... other devs out there, my bad) devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Roms can be found here:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-501-rom-list-updated-05-mar-2012-a.html
Everyone has their own taste/preference for sure....but please don't call someone else's work atrocious...its just not nice :/
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OP is speaking his mind. He does have that right.
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Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Roms can be found here:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-501-rom-list-updated-05-mar-2012-a.html
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cliefan said:
Everyone has their own taste/preference for sure....but please don't call someone else's work atrocious...its just not nice :/
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Pull all your apps in manually? When was titanium back up automatic
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veer01_42 said:
Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Roms can be found here:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-501-rom-list-updated-05-mar-2012-a.html
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Only thing changed in flexreaper is soft touch (home, back, menu )buttons with mirror effect.
The ring you can flash to stock look.
Yes you have a right of your own opinion . So do I.
I like that you piss on me and then say "don't be offended blablablabla".
About battery life, if you would be as smart that you think you are, you would know it takes a few full recharges before battery settles. If that doesn't work wiping battery stats will make a big difference.
So let me explain like a 5 year old ,
You big man go to cwm ( clockwork mod) ,blablablabla.....
You want stock icons, you open systemUI.apk with blablabala.
You should be able do make full rom now.
But please big man don't be offended we do this for users like you.
A nice pm with question to have stock buttons would have been more respectfully.
But I don't expect that from a 3 year old , my little boy of 2 got more sense and respect then you.
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OP is speaking his mind. He does have that right.
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Man...that statement right there is garbage to me...
The generation of entitlement.
Xda provides a free forum to use. Devs put in may many many hours and allow us to use their roms for free... Tell me who gave him the right to come on here call some else's work atrocious?
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I didn't use titanium. I have all my files on a external SD card. All i ever have to do with a Droid reinstall is app installs and the OOBE handled that for me before quite nicely.
I said the EYECANDY was atrocious. Not the whole rom...
Wrap ur head around it. Its like you built a car and i said i didnt like the colour you painted it in. I have every right to comment on what i think of their customisations especially if its true. I like the under the hood work and i pointed out where taboonay needs some work, but what i didnt like i said.
I did my fair share of customisation and skins back in the XP days and got pretty heavily criticised myself. I stopped skinning with Vista and 7 because to me the UI was "good enough". The same with ICS. The UI is good enough so i PREFER roms with few UI customisations. That doesnt mean i think they're bad.
Have you seen the collective's ROM? Its gorgeous!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439351
But that's just MY OPINION. Others may or may not share it. Just swallow it and move on.
If you have a problem with that then go take a time out and come back when ur ready to act like a grown up instead of a little kid who hates being criticised and judged.
Tried the battery wipe with taboonay, didn't work.
Right after Lightspeed, it did not give any problems at all.
The mirrored buttons was the thing i hated the most on civatoflexreaper. and prbably the only thing, that said i didn't know how to change it and am reaching a point in my life where i'm tired of messing with stuff. I just wanted a clean working ICS ROM.
I was making a general comment to the devs as a whole, particularly the ones who go nuts when using every effect in photoshop on every button they can find.
I did take the time to say thanks for all the hard work and that i appreciated it and I didnt spend too much time in your ROMs so people knew, "hey my statements are pretty general and maybe they should look for themselves before making a final decision"
All i criticized was the theming, don't take it personally. Quite frankly i even hate Acer's stupid acer ring customisation. After about 5 minutes i realised that it added nothing to my experience and was totally pointless. I even looked into removing it from your rom but was so tired i just looked for another ROM.
And i quote "No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste"
I'm sorry but when i see something ugly i say it and i say it nicely. People worse than me would do the same thing and the word atrocious would be the least troublesome word in their vocabulary.
I'm sorry if i offended but that was not my intention.
If i continue to offend in future, i simply will not mention your work at all. Congrats on the kid btw.
I don't mind negative comments brought respectfully.
Some thing you need to learn if you ask me, again my opinion.
If some one speaks his mind the way you do , free and with no tact you need to understand that there will be a response .
I hate this about internet forums, people get away with every attitude.
Let me say it this way, if you where standing in front of me and my car got a really ugly paint job in your eyes you wouldn't say it was done by a 5 year old .
Take my word for it, I was born and raised the old way.
Respect and honour comes first....... you will see m8 if you have kids if you don't have them already you would love it when they are respectfully .
Again a simple question , he civ, I don't like the mirror effect could you upload stock look.
That would have been enough.
That was all I had to say about it , do with what you want ........
Fair enough i can respect that.
I don't usually contact modders, bad past exp from way back. I leave my comments and walk away, I don't make a habit of making requests and asking people to change things. Mainly because they never do.
I use as much tact as i can, believe me i do, however im a fairly harsh case. That said i can appreciate hard work. I was brought up the old way too. I may be a child of the 90's but i grew up with an old school family. Even thou, I've had to be harsh to get by and that, unfortunately, comes through, even on text.
I speak my mind and I've grown accustomed to dealing with the fallout single handed. But if I'm wrong i will say I'm wrong.
I know what you mean about the kids. Respect is a two way street. I deal with kids way too often, I know. I'm a harsh, but fair person.
Peace.
I tried Flexreaper and agree with you on how it look. Now I'm on Tabooney but the battery life is as good as Lightspeed. Tabooney is the best ICS ROM, at least for me.
Well I say this with respect but no custom ICS ROM I have flashed has been good to my battery as far as drain is concerned and I turn off everything but the Wifi.
Even in airplane mode the battery drains by 5% within 1 hour... I never had such issues with the custom Honey Comb ROMs.
I guess the custom ROMs are based from the stock leaks so I'm not blaming anybody or trying to make anybody look bad, just saying it as it is.
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Well I say this with respect but no custom ICS ROM I have flashed has been good to my battery as far as drain is concerned and I turn off everything but the Wifi.
Even in airplane mode the battery drains by 5% within 1 hour... I never had such issues with the custom Honey Comb ROMs.
I guess the custom ROMs are based from the stock leaks so I'm not blaming anybody or trying to make anybody look bad, just saying it as it is.
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Might be another issue, I use taboonay and with wifi set to sleep when screen is off and will get 2 1/2 to 3 days.
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The battery is worse than HC all round for true, but I'm guessing it might be due to non-final drivers and packages. Once the final acer release is out, it might be a different story. For not the battery is good enough for me 3 - 4 days with minimal use and im good.
Or it could get worse...there's nothing to say Acer will fix any problems. Just need a decent kernel.
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civato said:
I don't mind negative comments brought respectfully.
Some thing you need to learn if you ask me, again my opinion.
If some one speaks his mind the way you do , free and with no tact you need to understand that there will be a response .
I hate this about internet forums, people get away with every attitude.
Let me say it this way, if you where standing in front of me and my car got a really ugly paint job in your eyes you wouldn't say it was done by a 5 year old .
Take my word for it, I was born and raised the old way.
Respect and honour comes first....... you will see m8 if you have kids if you don't have them already you would love it when they are respectfully .
Again a simple question , he civ, I don't like the mirror effect could you upload stock look.
That would have been enough.
That was all I had to say about it , do with what you want ........
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Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
Moussa Dastgheib said:
Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
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resurrection of old topic, im not saying anything
Moussa Dastgheib said:
Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
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Ah , well I talked to veer in pm and he is OK,
Let me put it this way , if we all had the same taste there was only need for one rom.
Just one comment about flex reaper and people still saying it looks not good.
Did you try scrolling down a little to the mod part and flash full stock ICS look, if you have a little read skill you can see you can bring flexreaper to full stock ics look with no blue buttons or battery %.
I think reading is harder for some then just sitting at there pc and post some crap
And that is maybe all about intelligence and not taste.
The option is there you just need to see it.
How about an current update?
This thread's comments are really old.
When the comparrisions were made I think that was when LightSpeed was a 4.4 or less and Flexreaper was at about R12 or less.
Since then Flexreaper has made a lot of updates and Lightspeed has made a few too.
I never tried Tabooney so I don't know where that is at, but it's probably been updated too.
I tried Flexreaper and Lightspeed back a few versions ago.
I liked Flexreaper over Lightspeed. I like all the extra work that has gone into the different Flexreaper looks you can chose from. Lightspeed was just too bare bones for me. But you may like that.
I haven't yet gone to the ICS kernel so I'm starting to fall behind in the Flexreaper updates. Civato is a real busy guy and I just can't keep up with him. Keep up the good work.
Any updates comparing the latest versions of the top ICS versions would be appreciated.
Thanks
Not new to Android, the forum, etc... Just new to THIS device.
I am looking to get solid opinions on two things...
The best ROM for this tablet. But something stable, working properly, not a lot of bugs. There is a lot of cool development going on for this device, but trying to wade through it all can be a bit of a handful. I don't care about overclocked kernels and things like that. I just want something fast, stable, full featured, etc... Taking the stock ROM, and making it even better.
In the past, Cyanogen was the go to ROM for my DroidX. Blew me away. On the Rezound, my current fav is ViperREZ. Maybe that gives an indication of what I am looking for?
Second question, the launcher. My main goals are speed, eye candy and features. I have used Go, Apex and Nova on my phones, and Sense 4,0 is actually pretty slick. ADW was nice as well.
But are any of those really optimized for a tablet? I am looking for something that is very functional, but that also makes me say WOW! every time I use it.
Suggestions?
Sigh. So many threads asking about the "best" ROM.... why don't you just try them all and see which one you prefer. All have faults some more than others. You'll get different answers from everyone because everyone has different preferences on what's good.
It takes all of 1 minute to flash a ROM... you could quickly sift through the available ROM's to see which one catches your eye at first.
im using paranoid android. its based off of cm10 plus you can change switch between tablet mode, phone mode, and phablet mode on any app you have installed. until there is a full version of cm10 or aokp this looks like it will be my rom of choice. i agree with the post above, just flash some and see what you like i just chose to answer your question an not be a d about it. good luck and happy flashing
Well, playing with all of them, if there are known issues, which most of them have, can be like finding a needle in a hay stack, you know?
I will say though, that this launcher is impressive. I used it on my phone awhile back, but it had some glitches back then. It has been updated since then and on a tablet it makes a lot more sense.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spb.shell3d&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
For now, hell, the ROM may not matter much as the UI is completely revamped and very cool.
I did say that it might be a dumb question. LOL
I wish CM10 was fully baked for this device, that would rock.
Bugless beast ROM is very smooth and stable with trinity kernel, mainly is AOSP
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Bugless beast ROM is very smooth and stable with trinity kernel, mainly is AOSP
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Cool, I will check that one out.
Anyone know how to take a screen cap with this device, on the stock ROM?
Is this app even working on tablets? Btw its cool but u will loose a lot of stock android features, at least i miss them there.
You could wait for charmeleon app, thats kind of a launcher app. You could google it. It will be released in september i think. It was a kickstarter project and i am a backer so i will get it this week already, i can report later if u want.
Zilol said:
Is this app even working on tablets? Btw its cool but u will loose a lot of stock android features, at least i miss them there.
You could wait for charmeleon app, thats kind of a launcher app. You could google it. It will be released in september i think. It was a kickstarter project and i am a backer so i will get it this week already, i can report later if u want.
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Actually working pretty well. The 3D effects really come alive on a larger screen. If I could take screen caps, I would, but have not figured that out yet on this thing. hehe
Power+Volume Down should take a screenshot.
I've flashed 3 or 4 roms, and always restore my stock backup.. I haven't found any that are as smooth as the stock build as of yet.
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Sigh. So many threads asking about the "best" ROM.... why don't you just try them all and see which one you prefer. All have faults some more than others. You'll get different answers from everyone because everyone has different preferences on what's good.
It takes all of 1 minute to flash a ROM... you could quickly sift through the available ROM's to see which one catches your eye at first.
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I agree with this post, the only way to find out what's best for you is to try them all. I did that I came to conclusion that the Jellybro nightly kang is what's best for me with 170 DPI mod to bring out tablet UI. Loving it now. I tried the other "hybrid" ROM but didn't like it because I naturally love the big (or small) resolution which give me a more virtual screen estate at all times.
Good luck
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I agree with this post, the only way to find out what's best for you is to try them all. I did that I came to conclusion that the Jellybro nightly kang is what's best for me with 170 DPI mod to bring out tablet UI. Loving it now. I tried the other "hybrid" ROM but didn't like it because I naturally love the big (or small) resolution which give me a more virtual screen estate at all times.
Good luck
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Hmmm... what is this 170dpi mod you speak of?
Vol down and power does not screen cap like it does on my phone. Weird.
And last thing... How does one get into Recovery? I can do it from the OS with Quickboot, and selecting Bootloader or Recovery, etc... I just backed up the phone to a Nandroid using CWM, the one that is touch screen.
on my Rezound, I can pull the battery, hold vol down and power for a few seconds and get into Recovery in the event that a Flash is wonky and bootlooping or whatever...
How does one do that on this device?
If your not 'new' to this forum then surely you would know "best ROM?" threads aren't really tolerated..
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If your not 'new' to this forum then surely you would know "best ROM?" threads aren't really tolerated..
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1) I am not new.
2) And had I just asked for the "best ROM", I would expect your non-helpful reply. I felt that if I explained the criteria of what I was after, then perhaps some other people that went through the selection process could point me in the right direction rather than trusting to trial and error.
See, I apply the same standards to others that I apply to myself. In the 17 or so years that I have been on forums(going back to Tom's Hardware Guide on the original Delphi forums), and even having moderated several over the years... I have never once told someone to use the search button, or "just figure it out", etc...
I always answer questions, perhaps in more detail and length than most would, and so I guess that I sorta expect the same courtesy of others.
If someone says that they are looking for X,Y,Z, I don't tell them to go try dozens of ROMs and hope that sooner or later they stumble across the one that has X,Y and Z. I try to say, "Hey, ROM's are all subjective, but here are 2 or 3 that are exactly what you are asking for"... or something to that effect.
Regards,
Dave
4.1.1 stock sorry have not gotten sick of it yet.
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I find that cwm won't open up for me if I power off then volume down then select recovery and all that. It just hangs on the black screen. So I just use adb or ROM manager. Or then advanced power menu.
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NOTE: This quick video just shows my modifications and applications on my Nexus 5. If you want me to go into detail about each of them let me know as this is not a 'tutorial' video, but more like a 'teaser'. I hope you enjoy the video XD.
Any feedback?
ill be honest, not to hurt your feelings or anything, because that's not what im trying to do.. but why does it matter to me what apps and mods that you decided to use?
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ill be honest, not to hurt your feelings or anything, because that's not what im trying to do.. but why does it matter to me what apps and mods that you decided to use?
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haha ouch you hurt me bad :'(....haha not at all XD
-well first off I did this as I like making videos and had no idea what to do so just did this as I am not getting feedback on specific things..
-people can discover new 'mods' xposed framework to download
-to see how AWESOME the NEXUS is
-because my videos are awesome?
is there any other type of video you would like to see?
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haha ouch you hurt me bad :'(....haha not at all XD
-well first off I did this as I like making videos and had no idea what to do so just did this as I am not getting feedback on specific things..
-people can discover new 'mods' xposed framework to download
-to see how AWESOME the NEXUS is
-because my videos are awesome?
is there any other type of video you would like to see?
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ahh..
i think your vids can help more, if they got out more into the public, not really much help on xda though. more of the public is uninformed, as it would help there.
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ahh..
i think your vids can help more, if they got out more into the public, not really much help on xda though. more of the public is uninformed, as it would help there.
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thats the problem :/ how will they reach if no one is giving feedback sharing or anything lol
I like the video. Music is good for the type of video, +1 to the wallpaper because turbos, intro is cool, +1 to the themes, I like the Settings tiling up animation (not sure if that makes sense).
Only thing I would say is smoother camera handling (e.g. min. 55, min. 2:13-2:15) and the angle you have your phone is good but at some points it's hard to tell what app, or what setting you're doing/using because the very top left is blurry.
Also I can tell I'm bored right now waiting for the wifey because I just spent a lot of time reviewing a 3 minute video lol
What's the purpose of the video?
Why not link apps and mods properly with descriptions and instructions.
Why not a step-by-step or how-to?
A 3 minute video I'm forced to watch is useless.
Why spend 3 minutes looking at something?
Now you have to pause, rewind, fast forward parts if you missed something.
Everything written out would save time and not waste everyone else's.
All I see is a video to generate views.
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I like the video. Music is good for the type of video, +1 to the wallpaper because turbos, intro is cool, +1 to the themes, I like the Settings tiling up animation (not sure if that makes sense).
Only thing I would say is smoother camera handling (e.g. min. 55, min. 2:13-2:15) and the angle you have your phone is good but at some points it's hard to tell what app, or what setting you're doing/using because the very top left is blurry.
Also I can tell I'm bored right now waiting for the wifey because I just spent a lot of time reviewing a 3 minute video lol
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Thanks for the feedback dude XD. So bout the camera movement I know bout it but the problem is the tripod am using is ****. So I would need to get new equipment for better filming.
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What's the purpose of the video?
Why not link apps and mods properly with descriptions and instructions.
Why not a step-by-step or how-to?
A 3 minute video I'm forced to watch is useless.
Why spend 3 minutes looking at something?
Now you have to pause, rewind, fast forward parts if you missed something.
Everything written out would save time and not waste everyone else's.
All I see is a video to generate views.
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As stated above...I purposely made it without all that because it would be a waste of time. As I have asked what kind of videos people would like to see with no feedback, so I created this for fun. And you are forced? I don't see anyone holding a gun to your head...I mean go dislike, knock yourself out XD
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Not a bug or anything, just letting people know that the first boot will take a while. Don't worry if it sits at the pixel boot animation for longer than a few minutes.
hello, it's for an opinion, I'm with Carbon ROm and SNAPPATCH, I have a concern:
* 1) with the autofocus of Open Camera .... autofocus has trouble with close subjects, I tried all focus modes but it's still the same, typed 15 times its screen to have a correct focus, my photos always come out with just a little blurry (and with luck no ...)
2) when taking the picture, the clarity of the screen is still there but to view the picture the intensity of the screen drops a little bit and does not give the effect of having taken the same picture, it's normal ?
So, thank you for a nice answer and good work on SNAPPATCH
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Not a bug or anything, just letting people know that the first boot will take a while. Don't worry if it sits at the pixel boot animation for longer than a few minutes.
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That's helpful, thanks for Your Feedback! Hope You enjoy the Patch
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hello, it's for an opinion, I'm with Carbon ROm and SNAPPATCH, I have a concern:
* 1) with the autofocus of Open Camera .... autofocus has trouble with close subjects, I tried all focus modes but it's still the same, typed 15 times its screen to have a correct focus, my photos always come out with just a little blurry (and with luck no ...)
2) when taking the picture, the clarity of the screen is still there but to view the picture the intensity of the screen drops a little bit and does not give the effect of having taken the same picture, it's normal ?
So, thank you for a nice answer and good work on SNAPPATCH
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Thanks for You constructive Post! There are a lot of Configs and i'm not even aware of what the best Values would be. Means a lot of testing and finetuning for the next Time. At all is it already a good upgrade but i can confirm that there is still a lot to do and to figure out how what works and which Configs are the best. I'm also looking around to get HDR Video Recording and i already made some Steps in the right Direction like it seem. I'll keep You informed on the Main Thread and the Changelogs when something changes or improves! Hope You can live for now with the Camera...
BR
When trying to install Substratum, its getting half way done building the overlays, seems stuck. Any ideas?
BTW Im hitting the 8.1 and build & enable
Also what a good app to use to change those kernel numbers
Tested it: performance is much slower than stock. Geekbench shows 60% less performance.
Wifi is stronger.
No X-reality.
Safe charging doesn't exist.
Camera is very good, but the focus is off, cannot take pictures of nearby objects.
Back to stock for me
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Tested it: performance is much slower than stock. Geekbench shows 60% less performance.
Wifi is stronger.
No X-reality.
Safe charging doesn't exist.
Camera is very good, but the focus is off, cannot take pictures of nearby objects.
Back to stock for me
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You don't even tried the Real World Performance such as Task switching or Gaming Performance? X-Reality? Sounds not like testing for Me...
And what is Safe Charging? It does Quick Charge (3.0) as Safe as Possible. Otherwise would it just start heat up or totally stops the charging since there is a Controller for such Things.... Besides that seems the Device to stay a lot Cooler while Charging (Booted in Android).
Don't get Me wrong. But Posts like this are the Stone on the Development Grave here. It just tells People that something is sh**, and they don't even think about to try it out. Half of the Posts i see on the Xperia Forums are non Sense, complaining, or feature request. That's isn't helpful to anyone and just keeps Devs from joining the Development here. See the TWRP Thread from Myself5 or the Kernel Thread from AndroPlus (Both long Time Contributers). It's a wonder that Myself5 is still providing his Carbon Builds on the Forums....
To be honest, besides the ROM from Myself5 and My Patch is there nothing great to find for the XZ Premium. If You can't believe that go back to Nougat or use this trashy ROM from Turbo which contains non working "Tweaks" and seems to be 90% based on Superrs Kitchen without additional Optimizations (My 5 Years old Brother can do that). Just removed some Content and Copy - pasted a Kernel with the DRM Fix. It's sad...
And before i start to talk more about the Problems here am i out for now. New Patch is up and i'm looking forward to more Enhancements which You will NEVER get on Stock!
BR
Miustone said:
You don't even tried the Real World Performance such as Task switching or Gaming Performance? X-Reality? Sounds not like testing for Me...
And what is Safe Charging? It does Quick Charge (3.0) as Safe as Possible. Otherwise would it just start heat up or totally stops the charging since there is a Controller for such Things.... Besides that seems the Device to stay a lot Cooler while Charging (Booted in Android).
Don't get Me wrong. But Posts like this are the Stone on the Development Grave here. It just tells People that something is sh**, and they don't even think about to try it out. Half of the Posts i see on the Xperia Forums are non Sense, complaining, or feature request. That's isn't helpful to anyone and just keeps Devs from joining the Development here. See the TWRP Thread from Myself5 or the Kernel Thread from AndroPlus (Both long Time Contributers). It's a wonder that Myself5 is still providing his Carbon Builds on the Forums....
To be honest, besides the ROM from Myself5 and My Patch is there nothing great to find for the XZ Premium. If You can't believe that go back to Nougat or use this trashy ROM from Turbo which contains non working "Tweaks" and seems to be 90% based on Superrs Kitchen without additional Optimizations (My 5 Years old Brother can do that). Just removed some Content and Copy - pasted a Kernel with the DRM Fix. It's sad...
And before i start to talk more about the Problems here am i out for now. New Patch is up and i'm looking forward to more Enhancements which You will NEVER get on Stock!
BR
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hi Miustone...... i know how you feel...... if i would get upset with all reports like that, i would be 10 years older..... get use to this.... here in xda, this is normal.....
he did his best.... some people are good reporting issues, some others don’t.... you need to get the positive and re-evaluate the negative ones..... just don’t take it personal...... i know, some times we are not in the mood.... i know.... but i learned a lot, from forums like these..... believe me, i've been in all....
you did an impressive job coding all these scripts.... i saw them all...... this tell me a lot from you...... not everyone can see them.... users, just use them....... and they don’t know the effort it takes, to get there....
just enjoy your passion, coding and developing..... my respect.....
TURBO
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hi Miustone...... i know how you feel...... if i would get upset with all reports like that, i would be 10 years older..... get use to this.... here in xda, this is normal.....
he did his best.... some people are good reporting issues, some others don’t.... you need to get the positive and re-evaluate the negative ones..... just don’t take it personal...... i know, some times we are not in the mood.... i know.... but i learned a lot, from forums like these..... believe me, i've been in all....
you did an impressive job coding all these scripts.... i saw them all...... this tell me a lot from you...... not everyone can see them.... users, just use them....... and they don’t know the effort it takes, to get there....
just enjoy your passion, coding and developing..... my respect.....
TURBO
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Thanks for You nice Words Mate! I really take My at off to You for Your calmness! I'm 24 now and around 6 Years posting on XDA. I still can't accept that XDA has changed over the Years, and i think that's My Problem. It's not the Users Fault, XDA just mutated to another Place and no one can change that except for the Owners of this Site. And i don't see that coming. XDA is still under Construction since Years (DEV DB, Thread Features, Site Designs, Post Editing), and there is no End...
I looked often around for other Places to share My Work, but looks like i have to live with that here... At least do i know that here are still some Friendly Devs and Users, and that's what keeps Me here at the End. So Thanks again for Your Post! And keep You also up Your ROMs! It would be really Silent in our Forums without You...
BR
After days of using,here's my simple feedback.
(G8142,lastest official CarbomROM)
1.Battery life is as good as,if not better than that of stock.
2.When slipping the screen,it lags.(compared to stock)
But i believe it is the rom to be blame.
3.Actually game performance is not good,for example,Fate/Grand Order and HearthStone,the animation of which lags.
4.The Pixel-like UI is cool! i love it.
keep developing,and i will stay on AOSP
SuzutsukiKaede said:
After days of using,here's my simple feedback.
(G8142,lastest official CarbomROM)
1.Battery life is as good as,if not better than that of stock.
2.When slipping the screen,it lags.(compared to stock)
But i believe it is the rom to be blame.
3.Actually game performance is not good,for example,Fate/Grand Order and HearthStone,the animation of which lags.
4.The Pixel-like UI is cool! i love it.
keep developing,and i will stay on AOSP
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Thanks for Your Feedback!
I can't tell if the Patch is causing it or not, but it runs just well on My Axon 7 using AOSP Extended. Same for Gaming or Multitasking. Graphic intensive Games are running more fluid and with less heat, and the App switching is much faster. But i see the Lags all few Seconds on the XZP. Are You also using the Carbon ROM?
Think i will try out pure AOSP after some sleeping...
And yes, i will continue the Development! There is much left to do, and i think a own AOSP OS from Me including many of the Patch Features will also come in the next Time (AOSP Project for Xperia Devices). At least at this Point should be all Lags be part of the past...
Hope to see You around again! BR
Try change g google play services and the lag will go.
Miustone said:
Thanks for Your Feedback!
I can't tell if the Patch is causing it or not, but it runs just well on My Axon 7 using AOSP Extended. Same for Gaming or Multitasking. Graphic intensive Games are running more fluid and with less heat, and the App switching is much faster. But i see the Lags all few Seconds on the XZP. Are You also using the Carbon ROM?
Think i will try out pure AOSP after some sleeping...
And yes, i will continue the Development! There is much left to do, and i think a own AOSP OS from Me including many of the Patch Features will also come in the next Time (AOSP Project for Xperia Devices). At least at this Point should be all Lags be part of the past...
Hope to see You around again! BR
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hey, i have tried the latest AOSP by SonyAOSP team,and now i am on it.
It is smoother than stock,without any lag.
however i could not boot into recovery,which makes me unable to flash the latest Snappatch.
i think we are getting closer to it...
Inerent said:
Try change g google play services and the lag will go.
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I'm on the Beta right now and all seems to be fine with the latest Patch Version. Hope You can also enjoy it now!
SuzutsukiKaede said:
hey, i have tried the latest AOSP by SonyAOSP team,and now i am on it.
It is smoother than stock,without any lag.
however i could not boot into recovery,which makes me unable to flash the latest Snappatch.
i think we are getting closer to it...
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Great to hear so far, but what's the Problem with Your Recovery? Mine works fine here...
Have You tried flashing the last One from TWRP.me with Fastboot? The Patch should not affect it in any way. So it's a really strange Issue... ?
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I'm on the Beta right now and all seems to be fine with the latest Patch Version. Hope You can also enjoy it now!
Great to hear so far, but what's the Problem with Your Recovery? Mine works fine here...
Have You tried flashing the last One from TWRP.me with Fastboot? The Patch should not affect it in any way. So it's a really strange Issue... ?
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i have tried 3.2.1-0 and 3.1.1-0,but both couldn't function normally.
it just slashes and reboots.
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i have tried 3.2.1-0 and 3.1.1-0,but both couldn't function normally.
it just slashes and reboots.
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Yes indeed, with yesterday compiled Sony AOSP TWRP is broken.
With the whole source from the end of March all was fine. But I got weird errors with this patch which rendered the phone unusable at all.
Sadly I have no clue how to debug a recovery. TWRP only worked before first boot.
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