I come to the Droid X planet from the planet WinMo..... On my previous planet I frollicked in the flash-cooked-rom playground til I was dizzy & had a too-much-cheese-cake belly ache....so I waited 45 minutes & frollicked some more.
I've read all about rooting here, I get it. I thought, before arriving, that I'd be rooting the very night I got the DX, but that night came & went ... and so did about a week now.
I'm loving this phone in stock mode. Its so much better & faster & slicker than my Omnia that I can't honestly find a reason to root.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the primary benefits to rooting are:
More thematic control
The ability to tether
marginally better battery life
the ability to overclock
So I'm all the way through a day at work w/ some calls, 10 to 20 texts, a couple of browser sessions, and 2 hours of mp3 play which lands me home w/ 40-50% battery left.
I just don't need to tether (although it'd be cool....and I'd prolly do it)
The ability to put a picture of my honeymoon in Kauai is all the Thematic control I need.
I'm already surfing while I listen to the PowerAmp MP3 player...how much faster does it need to be that I wanna overclock it? (I mean, I get how cool it is to actually do it & enjoy the observed performance bump, but......then I'm used to it being that fast)
Why do I wanna do this? I'm not trying to debate you, I believe you all like it better...so it IS better..but why might I like it better?
Talk to me like if you get ONE MORE root convert you'll get the toaster.
< used car salesman schtick >So....what's it gonna take for YOU to put ME in a rooted X today? < /used car salesman schtick >
It's all about what you like. If you are satisfied with stock so be it. I too was satisfied with stock, but the more I hung around these forums and read. The more curious I became. Rooting and unrooting is ridiculously easy. One click. I don't use tethering so I won't be able to convince you. However on battery life it is no contest. I used to be at 40 percent at noon with heavy usage. Once I rooted and changed roms (apex 1.4.1) I saw an enormous improvement. Now I am at 50 percent by 6 at night. I make a lot of calls during the day (25+) and I am checking email and what have you. It all comes down to how happy you are with what you have. I could be happy with stock again (I actually don't mind blur). Good luck with your decision, but I must warn you. Staying around these forums will not help you stay with stock for very long.
Edit: I wouldn't make a very good car salesman.
Blur-less ROM. 'nuff said.
See, now I'd read more "marginal" battery life improvement....your experience is a significant improvement.
And yes, hanging around here is how I got to be a flash-addicted on my previous planet....all to the good I might add, although MAN I could blow some hours on that.
I'll have to do some more reading on Blur and Blur-less.
i too came from the omnia. loved that phone. ive had my DX for a few weeks now, and aside from changing how it looks drastically i havent had the need to root or ROM the phone at all so far. although, the wifi tethering is the one reason i will end up rooting later this weekend, i use that a TON throughout my workday. i have been kind of avoiding it, but its something that has been a hassle since i changed phones. im more interested in hearing more about this "oneclick" root someone in here mentioned, ive read the sticky and probably everything else in this forum about rooting the DX and havent come across a one click method so far. so, apparently ive missed the best part?
Hanover....I found this:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/27/root-and-unroot-your-droid-x-with-1-click/
...but it looks like a bunch of X-ers standing around the edge of the pool daring each other to jump in & report back. I like the "Noobs Guide" here better.
Another Rooting benefit I forgot to mention was how COOL backing up the state of the phone would be. I'm guessing that's App and Settings.....from WinMo flashes I loved the Dir you could put on the SD full of the apps & settings so that if the ROM you were flashing included this particular feature, those things would be loaded & setup from the get-go....forget what it was called; flippin fabulous. This backup capability that apparently comes along w/ Rooting (which isn't available from stock? ) sounds even better.
Anybody wanna tell me what they hate about Blur?
This discussion has a few links to Blur definition and commentary.....I guess I "like" the Blur stuff, although apparently it's been diluted to a palatable level in the X's 2.2.1 Android release.
I think its creepy keepin my schtuff in teh "cloud"....until I want it reloaded to my phone & poof! Its done...then its more cool than creepy
So far I've gotten
WAY better battery management (not just a little better)
Gotta Tether
And to that list I'd add the backup ability about which I'll have to read more.
So come on Rooters.....I'm still wanting to hear the GREATEST thing for you in your new ROM that Stock never provided.....
I had the tilt before coming to the X and I loved that phone. The "one click" method I was talking about is called z4root. You don't technically click it. It is an .apk that you run. Then click either temporary or permanent root. If you click permanent root, the next time you run it unroot will appear. If you get DroidX bootstrap you can make a nandroid backup of your current phone. Everything will be saved except the data from your apps. You would have.to use titanium backup for that. Then you could experiment with roms and if you don't like them go back to your backup. Which would put you back at stock. You can also make more than one backup. Keep reading and before you know it you will break down.
Just to let you know a little more between the blur and blur"less" roms. Since blur is part of motorola when a dev takes the blur out of the rom some of the functionality of the phone is lost. I.e. no hdmi, camera is less than stellar and etc...now you can just get the blur .apk for the camera. But you still lose hdmi out.
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Thanks....I really like the camera....seems better than my Omnia's ....maybe I'm just on a honeymoon w/ the X
I'll have a few more laps in the pool here & then I'll giver a go. I mean, if I can fairly easily bop back to stock, then what's the cost? (well...besides the unlikely bricking).
So I guess I'll need to figure out which things are "Blur" and which things are "Android"....for instance:
can anybody tell me if thiese things remain in blurless ROMS?
The little red target that moves the cursor in text boxes? (love that)
the voice mic to talk in text in most text boxes?
syncing to/from my Gmail for contacts & calendar?
can I have "some" of the Motorola widgets of my choice? (or are they just bone cuz they "are" blur?)
Again, I can figure these things out first hand or read up, just checkin if one of you wanna chime in some more.
Great info. THanks for playin.
my reasons are quite simple for rooting my dx.addless apps/over clocking/"disabling"some factory installed apps/wifi tethering(not being stuck paying verison 20 bucks a month to do it).
Another reason to root and ROM is "New Phone Syndrome". I was excited like a kid in a candy store when I got my X. You couldn't pull my fingers from it. After 3 months I started to get bored. Don't get me wrong I still loved it but I needed new meat and waiting another 21 months for an upgrade didn't cut it. So if all those reasons to root and load a ROM like tethering, battery life, overclock, etc isn't good enough for you, then consider this...its like having a new phone when you load a ROM. Just my 2 cents.
DX CFU LIB 1.5
It almost sounds like you want to be convinced on something you kind of want to do because your bored,
About ROMs. Think of it like this...take two LCD TVs, one is 1080p one is 720P...if they are in separate rooms, you will never be able to tell the difference. Side by side, yes, you can see the difference, marginally. To me, all flashing a ROM does is change the transitional speed between screens, apps, etc., and remove the bloat ahead of time so you don't have to manually do it. That's my opinion. (disclaimer for the trolls ) And to be honest, that is where mainly all the praise comes from having a so called " fast ROM ", over stock. Motorola's stock transition times are slow (blur) and developers customize these settings to probably be 0. Other then that, I have had two brand new Droid X's side by side and there is no difference. Heck I have had four of them side by side and can't tell a difference in anything really besides transitioning in tasking.
How much time are people really spending transitioning between the app drawer and the home screen is beyond me lol but running any rom while in an app is never going to make a difference on a phone call, text, taking a picture etc.
If I could change these transition times myself (much like on a PC), I would love to run the stock ROM as it's 100% stable and smooth and I don't have to sacrifice a thing. If you want a different look once in a while like a black top bar or new icons, flash a theme for stock rom or an icon pack or, make your own like I do.
As far as rooting, yes, rooting for me is a must.
I root so I can have an exact backup to the state my phone was in before I start to dink around with it. I like to change my battery icons, make all my own icons and such so it helps when I flash or edit the wrong file. I like to be able to backup all my apps with a one click install after I go back to stock if need be. I like to be able to tether and to know I have that ability because times have arose when I needed to. And last but not least, have the ability to download and install non-market apps and content. There are websites out there that have plenty of apps and content not available the market that I use. Probably my biggest reason I root. Some apps require root so that will be your preference if you use those specific apps.
If you enjoy overclocking, that's another reason to root. The DX is not a PC though, I don't need to overclock to make a call and I am not playing Crysis on max resolution lol. If you are OCD about watching your benchmark scores go up and down, then overclock away!
Other then that, I have always praised that a stock, rooted Droid X with all it's bloatware removed is perfect in every way. The hardware on this awesome device is really all that you may want in a smart phone. It handles everything I throw at it and it's reliable for me. Overclocked or not, I can't tell the difference between 1Ghz and 1.3Ghz and that's on my phone alone.
Everything always comes down to preference. If you don't have a specific reason to root then don't. Unless you’re bored that is, lol.
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my reasons are quite simple for rooting my dx.addless apps/over clocking/"disabling"some factory installed apps/wifi tethering(not being stuck paying verison 20 bucks a month to do it).
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Me too. Tried all the roms, all had some shortcommings. I am now back to stock, rooted, bloat removed, themed and loving it. Best batt life I have had.
Stock , rooted, bloat removed, theme-able, sounds like a dream come true.
I appreciate the insight.
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i too came from the omnia. loved that phone. ive had my DX for a few weeks now, and aside from changing how it looks drastically i havent had the need to root or ROM the phone at all so far. although, the wifi tethering is the one reason i will end up rooting later this weekend, i use that a TON throughout my workday. i have been kind of avoiding it, but its something that has been a hassle since i changed phones. im more interested in hearing more about this "oneclick" root someone in here mentioned, ive read the sticky and probably everything else in this forum about rooting the DX and havent come across a one click method so far. so, apparently ive missed the best part?
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Z4 root! One click! just get the link to download the app if it's not in the market.
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So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
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So can I get some info on the X because I currently own an Incredible but have about a week now to switch. How do the two phones compare? Exactly how much can I do to the X? Currently my Incredible is rooted and using custom ROM and theme.
Thanks for the help in advance.
(Oh and is it true you can get rid of the UI on the X? I have a friend claiming he did)
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you can get rid of about 95% of the blur, some has to stay but its being worked on, custom roms are just starting to roll out. However the kernel is locked so no major tampering with the cpu yet.
I had the inc for about a week or two, X is a big upgrade. I wouldnt switch back.
The Droid X wins in every category you can think of but UI(senses). Custom roms/themes are being worked on, and since we rooted and have deodex'd we are fastly moving foward....
So you guys think I should switch? And would you say it's easier or harder to root than the Inc?
Sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I have the best phone possible for the next 18 months lol.
Droid X is easy to root on 2.1 just use Universal Androot Beta 1.6.2(Link is clickable) for easy installation of apk for phone for a 1-click root solution. but if you want root on 2.2 require a bit more work but its still easy.
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
CHPunk said:
Well looks like you convinced me to get the Droid X!
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if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
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if you have any problems, visit Droid X Wiki
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That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
But I came from the INC and I can basically do EVERYTHING that I coulddo with the INC on the X... except kernal modding.. obviously.
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That's how you get the wiki out there!! LOL
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You know it MrDanger...
only issue you may have, well 2. When taking pics you will think they are horrible when looking at them on the phone, but when you look at them on a comp they are better than the inc. Just something i noticed when switching. And if you frequently use the speaker, (music or voice) the volume is stupid low...
Just thought i would give you a heads up on the only things i have noticed.
Thanks for the help guys, only problem is after going to verizon today I kind of want the Fascinate
I suppose the screen is a big plus, but I hear it feels cheap when compared to the build quality of the X.... not that I beat my phone up on purpose...
I have both (got my X today). Sense and it's quirks are vastly superior to Blur, but I won't keep a phone stock if I can find a real vanilla build. I do miss things like having a dialer that doesn't suck and some of the skins for sense. I could use Sense builds, but I can tell there is no way I'll want to use any of the Blur crap (except DNLA, which looks neat).
The device itself the X wins hands down. The look and feel of the actual device is just.. better. It's faster overall (I get quad scores about as fast as my SkyRaider build without OC) and the screen looks great and it doesn't ever lag for me. The downside is that it's huge and I don't use a case. One slap in the junk with this thing from my pocket when I was trotting down some steps had me thinking twice.
But the INC has lots of customizations and badass devs (SkyRaider/Cyanogen/Virt/Redemption and now Ruby), and I'm kind of just checking out how active it is over here to see how much support it will get. I know the Ruby guys just got an X so that would satisfy me pretty well and they seem to have 2 or 3 devs that seem dedicated.
In a few weeks/months I think the X will have some good things coming. Once they do, I will like the phone more than the INC.
Just remember the Fascinate does not have a LED notifier but there are some hacks around. There is no HDMI out either. I have to admit the screen colors are amazing as well as the form factor, but it almost feels cheap. I love the screen size on the DX, its fast, ruins cool and the developers are flocking to the device since Koush made the Bootstrap recovery. Some of the developers already are, Pete(BB), Koush, ChevyNo1, Birdman, P3, cvpcs(Sapphire), the guys behind Rubix, JRummy was talking recently about getting one and I am sure I missed a few. I would also like to see the UnRevoked team get their hands on a DX to work their bootloader magic.
New Roms on their way are FlyX 1.0 and Obsidian(cvpcs) said he only needs a week from delivery of his X for release which means it could be by next weekend.
Sent from my DROIDX
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I have the incredible for a few weeks now, a few days left in my 30 day window (like 4 haha). I like the device, but the battery life irks me (which is kind've silly since I'm not a heavy user and have had no issues making it through a day with the stock battery. still, I'd like a device that I can use without watching the percentage drop in a few minutes). My two brothers got the X, I went with the incredible as (mostly) I was impatient and liked the hackability it has. Having actually used the device, the ability to load custom roms is nice and all, but using a stock rom isn't really much of a difference for my use. Of concern to me is primarily dumping the Verizon trash but as long as the phone's rootable it's doable. I use Skyraider vanilla but I don't have any real reason that I couldn't use a stock rom.
I've spent many hours trying to come to a conclusion and I've not gotten anything conclusive from online posts and such, everyone seems to get caught up in the 'omg its sooooo big', followed quickly by their gripes with the 'blur-but-not-blur' implementation. I use LauncherPro anyways so much of Blur's issues are not a concern. My only reasonable complaint is the hardware buttons on the X's face vs the touch ones on the incredible, but this is minor imo.
I hate having to babysit my phone to get the best of the battery and the bump charging stuff rubs me the wrong way. I'm coming from an iphone 3g and the widget capabilities are so great, but to save battery on my incredible I have only one auto updating widget, despite desiring more. Separate concern is how Verizon would handle the return since I'm near to my 30 days and the X wouldn't ship for a handful of days, and returning the incredible before that time would render me without a phone. I'm probably going to call them tomorrow and see what they'll do. Perhaps I can get the phone and see how it fares in my normal usage patterns.
If anyone has any input I would much appreciate it as I need something to push me over the edge. Granted, this is the X forum so I doubt anyone will give the incredible much love.
Ok, Now i've had a mogul for the past 4-5 years, didn't wanna spend more money on a phone that will be old hat in a few months. anyhow, i gave in and now i've got an epic on it's way, today.
I want to get the most from my phone and it's battery life, I also want to use my phone as my mp3 player. so can someone direct me to the best step by step directions on how to do everything. I d/l'd this link
firon.net/xda/one.click.root.exploitv2.5.5 ( ) zip &
32-bit drivers: firon.net/xda/Samsung_Mobile_...00_Epic_4G ( ) zip . . but not to sure what to do from here.
Maybe someone can direct me to the easiest steps to follow as i'm really clueless on what to do and what i'm looking for. any help would be great and thanks in advance!
I'll let someone who knows more about what you need answer, but I just wanted to comment on the Mogul. That was my first "pda phone". I had 2 other windows based pda's, so it was a natural fit. I really liked that phone, and it worked well. I had wi-fi issues with it, so Sprint gave me a Touch Pro. I liked that phone as well. I had some other issue with it and Sprint replaced it with another Touch Pro. The tech said my phone was the first he's seen that the user actually uses it to its fullest potential. I like to get the max I can out of the phone. I had Android on the Touch Pro, but didn't use it for day-to-day things because it ate the battery. I decided to get the Epic because I didn't want to wait for Windows Phone 7, and I didn't like the direction MS was going with it, so Android was the obvious choice (iPhone wasn't even in the running).
I'm glad you joined the Android ranks. What are your impressions of the Epic/Android coming from the Mogul?
It depends on what you want to do with your phone as far as staying on eclair or updating to the froyo leak. If you want to stay on eclair then I would root it with the one click root plus cwm. Then you can install a custom rom/kernel to help with battery life. If you want the froyo leak then I would root it with the one click with cwm version 3. That cwm version will change your filesystem over to ext4. Then you can flash a froyo rom since most are compatable with ext4. The only thing is there are no custom kernels for froyo since we don't have the source code yet. Tell me what way you want to go and I'll help you out.
I've played with a few friends phones, but they were not rooted, and they always kept their power cords with them. I hated that. but i like the keyboard, the screen resolution, i honestly haven't touched any apps yet to date. I am very vanilla when it comes to learning the phone and the whole android process. I have read different forums/blogs and they all direct me back to here for the best help. so I'm here. The biggest thing I really want to do is use the phone as my mp3 player and take advantage of having a very simple os and get the most out of my battery. I do use the inet on my mogul with skyfire but it just doesn't work anymore. I will need to use my calender, fb, things like that, i do like the neat icons that i've seen on different pages. i also was told they even have apps to design your own ringtones with music on ur phone. that's really cool too.. I really feel like a dinosaur with this stuff..
ok, the phone just got here, i'm gonna charge it 1st and then call to activate it after it's finished. also, for xtra cords, any site better than any other?
ok, the phone is here, i've added some apps. and contacts.. now what?
jrjpoohscell said:
ok, the phone just got here, i'm gonna charge it 1st and then call to activate it after it's finished. also, for xtra cords, any site better than any other?
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monoprice.com
Only site you should ever think of when it comes to cables.
jrjpoohscell said:
ok, the phone is here, i've added some apps. and contacts.. now what?
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Load some music up and start using it.
somehow i loaded everything on it, but it went to the phone and not the sd card! is there a way to move it over to the sim card now?
and what do i look under?
cdma phones don't have sim cards. And it doesn't have very much internal memory either, so are you sure you didn't put it on your sdcard like you intended?
sure did.. ur right. see, i am a complete rookie on this one.
Buy an extended battery
I bought an extended battery on eBay back when I got my Epic last November. It is a 2800mAh battery and I can actually run about 10-15 hours of light usage with wifi/4g/gps turned on (10-12 with wifi on, 13-15 with wifi off). If I am watching TV on my Slingbox app, it usually runs for about 6-7 hours. Pocket Legends tends to be a bit of a battery killer but I can still go for about 4-5 hours of gameplay (although the phone tends to overheat...lol). I highly recommend a bigger battery - it does make the phone bigger, but imo it is worth the extra weight. The name on the battery is "Yoobao". I have been using it for about 3+ months now with no issues.
good info. . . how much they running? i really just wanted to run some low power apps..
I think mine was about $35-40. It wasn't very expensive. I just did a quick ebay search for "epic 4g extended battery" and there are now many options for about $15-30. I may actually try out one of the 3500mAh batteries, seeing that the price has dropped! Never hurts to have a spare. Some have separate battery chargers included as well.
Thanks man, I just ordered like 3-4 new cases.. can't remember, i like to change the colors up at times bc i get bored!
Most cases won't fit over the extended batteries, sadly. I'm getting ready to sell my sweet Body Glove case because I never use it. Makes me sad, I really like that case..
Man Oh Man, what to do...
I just rooted my (R2-D2) Droid 2 two days ago using the app z4root (via 4shared). I'm on stock 2.2 (and by that I mean what came on the phone, so it's actually a light Blur 2.2)
Then I wanted to get rid of some of the bloatware, so I downloaded Bloat Freezer (still available on the Market) to do that. After freezing whatever apps I saw fit, I returned to see my homescreen black. I did some research and apparently this stems from "freezing" something to do with MotoBlur. I know for sure that I froze "Files" and "AccountSync", which apparently caused this problem with other people.
Supposedly a factor reset would fix it, but it didn't. So that's why I'm here.
So first I tried a normal reboot. That didn't work. Then I did a factory reset. I got all the way through the Setup Wizard, and then it took me back to the "Touch the Android to Begin" screen instead of closing to the home screen like normal. When I try to go through the Wizard again it crashes after syncing an account. I've tried three or four factory resets and this happens every time.
People had this problem while they were on other ROMs and supposedly flashing back to the original OS (not stock, but "stock" i.e. what Motorola put on the phone before), but I'm not on any other kind of ROM so I don't know if that would help.
Should I flash back to the original? Can I even do that if I haven't flashed an alternative ROM? Should I just try flashing to a different ROM (MIUI or Bugless Beast)? Can you even flash a ROM if you can't access most of the phone (the only things I have access to are my email [when the message icon pops up] and the hard reset menu thing)?
Note: Sorry if this isn't in the right thread, I couldn't figure out where to put malfunction type things. Mods can move it to where ever is appropriate. I also searched both XDA and the entire internet and either no one has this problem in the EXACT way I do (i.e. not on any special ROM) or the thread is extremely, extremely dead. So that's why I made the decision to post a new thread about it. Thanks!
Edit: I re-flashed my phone with RDS Lite, and while the homescreen is back it's extremely, extremely laggy. At first I thought it was broken again until I realized it was just taking so long to respond to my finger swipes. Right now it's trying to download 46 apps in the background, so I'll wait until that's done to try again. But I had faster responses even when everything was all broken and it was trying to install 46+ apps..
Those people were right. Find the .SBF file for your version of the Droid 2 and sbf back to "stock". That should fix you problem.
I'm in the process of RSDLite-ing right now, I wasn't sure if it would help though.. Stay tuned!
JJTheJetPlane5657 said:
I'm in the process of RSDLite-ing right now, I wasn't sure if it would help though.. Stay tuned!
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It should. Good luck.
Is this going to un-root my phone?
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Is this going to un-root my phone?
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I believe so. But it should be relatively easy to reroot.
UGH, IT TOOK AWAY MY R2-D2 BOOT ANIMATION......
Also, I noticed that you have the MIUI ROM. Do you feel like it performs better than stock? Faster? Sometimes I feel like the Blur-lite was a little laggy..
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UGH, IT TOOK AWAY MY R2-D2 BOOT ANIMATION......
Also, I noticed that you have the MIUI ROM. Do you feel like it performs better than stock? Faster? Sometimes I feel like the Blur-lite was a little laggy..
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Did you use the file specific to your phone? Either way, you should be able to get it back. Someone ripped out all the stuff from the R2D2 phone back when it came out. It's on the net somewhere.
I love Miui. It definitely performs better than stock and is much faster. I love the polished menu system and the included GB features are great. I especially love how you can customize practically everything. It has also greatly improved my battery life. I've been getting up to 20 hours on my standard extended battery. Good stuff. And if you don't like the iOSuck look of Miui, you can always download a different launcher (like ADW) and use that (like I did). Overall it performs surprisingly well considering it's on a locked phone.
(I've played with CM7 on my Incredible and PE on my now retired OG Droid. Miui definitely performs better.)
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Did you use the file specific to your phone? Either way, you should be able to get it back. Someone ripped out all the stuff from the R2D2 phone back when it came out. It's on the net somewhere.
I love Miui. It definitely performs better than stock and is much faster. I love the polished menu system and the included GB features are great. I especially love how you can customize practically everything. It has also greatly improved my battery life. I've been getting up to 20 hours on my standard extended battery. Good stuff. And if you don't like the iOSuck look of Miui, you can always download a different launcher (like ADW) and use that (like I did). Overall it performs surprisingly well considering it's on a locked phone.
(I've played with CM7 on my Incredible and PE on my now retired OG Droid. Miui definitely performs better.)
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Well apparently not.. I'll have to try and find the boot animation again.
And yeah, a lot of people have been saying the stuff about the battery life.. Have you ever tried Bugless Beast? Because that's the other ROM I'm stuck between. So I'm not sure which one is performing better on people's Droids
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Well apparently not.. I'll have to try and find the boot animation again.
And yeah, a lot of people have been saying the stuff about the battery life.. Have you ever tried Bugless Beast? Because that's the other ROM I'm stuck between. So I'm not sure which one is performing better on people's Droids
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I haven't used it yet, but I have heard good things. I probably will try it at one point though.
Like others have told me, you're just going to have to try them and see for youself. Different people have different experiences so it is difficult to determine which is better without some kind of experience with them.
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Is MIUI all in English now? I know about a year ago there were sill some things in Chinese (like the call button for example). From the pictures they showed on the official site of the Droid 2 port it looked pretty English, but I can't really find much more information on it than that..
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Is MIUI all in English now? I know about a year ago there were sill some things in Chinese (like the call button for example). From the pictures they showed on the official site of the Droid 2 port it looked pretty English, but I can't really find much more information on it than that..
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Yeah it got fully translated. It's all english. And very polished.
Hey guys,
I'm more of an HTC person and I'm trying to help out my boyfriend w/his Moto Droid Pro. The thing is the biggest POS and we're pretty close to doing an insurance replacement on it.
It's NOT rooted, he's not really a fan of messing w/the phone like I am but what I did for him last night was a factory data reset, wiped that sucker clean and now the phone is still painfully slow, his market is working but is slow and any app he downloads either says "loading" forever, or just does an immediate FC.
I told him that if the reset didn't fix it, we'd try rooting it, but I'm not even sure how the development is for this phone and if it would be fixed by that anyway.
Prior to me resetting the whole thing it would freeze all the time, he'd have to do a battery pull a few times a day, etc. He's ready to check the thing out the window (and I don't blame him -- I told him not to get a moto, lol).
He's running the 2.2 software and it says that no update is available for the phone.
What he likes about it is the keyboard style w/the touchscreen. He's not a huge fan of virtual keyboards and I think a slider style would annoy the sh*t out of him after a while too.
Anybody have any suggestions?
Thanks.
Hi
Hi,
All I can suggest is root and debloat. My phone was the same way It's not fast enough for the rom MOTO put on it.
You can find ways to upgrade to GB if you search around, or buy the TBH app, but that requires rooting.
What I did is go to droidforums, and install CM7 on mine. Be warned, it's still pretty hairy... some data issues... but it's really close to a stable mod. Now that I have CM on it, I don't mind the phone at all.
BE WARNED!!! If you go the CM route, DON'T, I repeat DON'T let the phone die (battery wise). You lose data and getting back is a pain. Next build or so should fix that.
dreamersipaq said:
Hi,
All I can suggest is root and debloat. My phone was the same way It's not fast enough for the rom MOTO put on it.
You can find ways to upgrade to GB if you search around, or buy the TBH app, but that requires rooting.
What I did is go to droidforums, and install CM7 on mine. Be warned, it's still pretty hairy... some data issues... but it's really close to a stable mod. Now that I have CM on it, I don't mind the phone at all.
BE WARNED!!! If you go the CM route, DON'T, I repeat DON'T let the phone die (battery wise). You lose data and getting back is a pain. Next build or so should fix that.
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Which method did you use to root yours? I've seen mention of Z4 but all the info/questions, etc., on it seem to be a bit dated. I've also seen mention of a couple different one-click methods which would be my preferred method vs going the ADB line by line route I had to do w/my TBolt.
I'm guessing, just like any other phone it can be rooted and the stock ROM left on it? It'll just be that I'll be able to install TiB and freeze crap apps?
EDIT: Based on what I learned today (ie, time wasting at work, lol) I think I'm going to apply the OTA update that I've found online and at least get non-rooted GBread up and running. From there I'll use the one click method to root the phone, get TiB and freeze some stuff. Hopefully that will fix his phone. He's so frustrated.
Q for you too - if the phone is "not fast enough for the ROM Moto put on it" (as you said) won't putting a faster, better s/ware make it lag even more? Isn't stock GBread a faster ROM than the stock Froyo?
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Which method did you use to root yours? I've seen mention of Z4 but all the info/questions, etc., on it seem to be a bit dated. I've also seen mention of a couple different one-click methods which would be my preferred method vs going the ADB line by line route I had to do w/my TBolt.
I'm guessing, just like any other phone it can be rooted and the stock ROM left on it? It'll just be that I'll be able to install TiB and freeze crap apps?
EDIT: Based on what I learned today (ie, time wasting at work, lol) I think I'm going to apply the OTA update that I've found online and at least get non-rooted GBread up and running. From there I'll use the one click method to root the phone, get TiB and freeze some stuff. Hopefully that will fix his phone. He's so frustrated.
Q for you too - if the phone is "not fast enough for the ROM Moto put on it" (as you said) won't putting a faster, better s/ware make it lag even more? Isn't stock GBread a faster ROM than the stock Froyo?
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Based on your edit, sounds like you now know what to do, so you should be pretty well off.
To answer your question, no. GB and Froyo are very different. Even though they might look somewhat similar, GB actually has a lot of code clean up, and optimization. Theoretically, i guess it should run a little slower then Froyo, but what I think happened with the Pro is that the Froyo build has a ton more Blur(****) (read: pun) installed on it, and it's poorly coded (by Moto) so it uses up too many resources. I think the GB scaled back Blur a lot, and I think it's better coded and optimized, which actually makes the phone faster. Nowhere near as fast as CM7, but it's not bad.
The phone specs themselves aren't bad: 1GHz, and 5XX Ram, so I think on Froyo the Moto Blur crap took too much RAM up, whereas in GB it's a little better on the resources.
Hope that helps.
P.S. Shout out to a chic that digs "geek". We need more of your type
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Based on your edit, sounds like you now know what to do, so you should be pretty well off.
To answer your question, no. GB and Froyo are very different. Even though they might look somewhat similar, GB actually has a lot of code clean up, and optimization. Theoretically, i guess it should run a little slower then Froyo, but what I think happened with the Pro is that the Froyo build has a ton more Blur(****) (read: pun) installed on it, and it's poorly coded (by Moto) so it uses up too many resources. I think the GB scaled back Blur a lot, and I think it's better coded and optimized, which actually makes the phone faster. Nowhere near as fast as CM7, but it's not bad.
The phone specs themselves aren't bad: 1GHz, and 5XX Ram, so I think on Froyo the Moto Blur crap took too much RAM up, whereas in GB it's a little better on the resources.
Hope that helps.
P.S. Shout out to a chic that digs "geek". We need more of your type
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Thanks for the input the GB/Froyo differences explains a lot and the shout-out .... I've been trying to tell my BF how much better my phone (the TBolt) runs, even when I rooted the Eris it was sooo much better (thanks to Tazz!), but he always picked on me for the little things, if there were some glitch w/the new s/ware, etc.
Now, I'm hoping that doing the GBread install will open his eyes to the fact that folks around these parts do, for the most part, know what they are doing -and- he can belong to a special club now, the one that includes folks who have **** on their phone that their not supposed to lol
I'll start small, w/the official OTA leak and go from there .... baby steps lol.
Well, I put GB on his phone last night (was soooo easy to do), seems to be running a bit better, but we'll see what a full day makes of it.
chimpsnest did you use a tutorial to get GB on it? If so which one?
Also, I know I can probably search and find pretty quickly. But when going from Froyo to GB will I loose all my data/programs and such?
Thanks,
PEZ
Good Morning,
I used the method found here:
http://www.androidtotal.com/manually-download-install-android-2.3.3-update-motorola-droid-pro/
YOU WILL LOSE ROOT IF YOU HAVE IT, however, there is a way to now root GBread on the Dpro as far as I know.
As far as data, apps, etc., etc., I'm not certain as I had totally wiped my BF's phone back to be like the day he got it (factory reset) as a first resort when his started tweaking out. His phone has never been rooted, but I think I'm going to do that for him this weekend as he seems to be having the issue w/the keypad backlight and the only app to fix it is for rooted phones
The file you need to put on your Dpro is called "update.zip" - that's the file you need to put on your SD card. That file is in a folder in the file you download, you have to unzip the download file to find the zip.
Also, I kind of doubt you'll lose all your data as this is a VZW piece of software and I don't think they'd make everybody lose their everything via an OTA update, right?
I have Droid X, running stock .621, rooted.
I just got my wife an HTC One S, running ICS and I'm jealous.
Right now, I'm just waiting out the days until Verizon offers something worth using my upgrade on. Looks like that's still going to be at least a couple of months away.
In the meantime, I'd like to breathe some fresh life into my DX, but I don't want something buggy.
I need working GPS, Camera (video would be nice too), phone functions. I'd like to be able to install Swype. I'd like flash to work. Working bluetooth would would be nice. Maybe I could live without some stuff, but at least I'd like to know what I'd be getting into before I install something.
I don't care about (or even really want) themes, different fonts, additional lock screens, funky notification bar icons or anything like that. I'd be perfectly happy with stock ICS, if it wasn't buggy.
Does something like that even exist or because there's no official ICS for the DX, there are always going to be some major bugs/issues?
If there's something worth trying, I'll be happy to give it a go. I understand that I'll have to do a data wipe, what's the best way to restore my data after a ROM update? Do I just back up user apps and user app data with Titanium before the update and then just restore all of that after or is there a better/safer/easier way to migrate ROMs?
I do already have CWM installed, so, I think, I just have to boot up, get into the CWM menu and do the data/cache wipe and then load the ROM zip file to upgrade ROM, right? At least that's the general directions? Once I figure out exactly which ROM, if any, I'll ask for further help so that I don't screw it up.
Thanks in advance for any assistance!
I've been pretty happy with CM9 for the DX
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18589-cyanogenmod-9-unofficial-beta-424/
Pretty much everything works, including camera
giveen said:
I've been pretty happy with CM9 for the DX
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18589-cyanogenmod-9-unofficial-beta-424/
Pretty much everything works, including camera
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Got some help in another forum last night and wound up installing Gummy ICS. I really screwed up the process and wound up having to SBF, but it was a good learning experience.
I'm truly stunned as to how much more responsive the phone is as compared to GB Stock. We'll see if it stays that way, but, right now, I'm thrilled.
Few little annoyances here and there, but my goal really was just to add a little live to an aging phone and give me a refreshed toy to hold me over until an acceptable upgrade phone becomes available.
lexluthor said:
Got some help in another forum last night and wound up installing Gummy ICS. I really screwed up the process and wound up having to SBF, but it was a good learning experience.
I'm truly stunned as to how much more responsive the phone is as compared to GB Stock. We'll see if it stays that way, but, right now, I'm thrilled.
Few little annoyances here and there, but my goal really was just to add a little live to an aging phone and give me a refreshed toy to hold me over until an acceptable upgrade phone becomes available.
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Since I'm in the exact same situation as you regarding ROM choice, can you tell me if you are happy with Gummy ICS?
I like functionality and speed.
xdadevnube said:
Since I'm in the exact same situation as you regarding ROM choice, can you tell me if you are happy with Gummy ICS?
I like functionality and speed.
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Not really. ICS on the Droid X was just way too buggy for me. In addition to all of the non-working things that people will tell you, I had other issues. My browsing was very slow on some sites with javascript on. I suspect due to the lack of hardware acceleration on ICS. Also, my radio.com app would cut the feed off after about 2 minutes of audio.
After Gummy, I had also tried AOKP. Both are nearly identical.
I wound up with VXR (Vortex Reloaded) using the ICSish them. Very, very happy with it.
Not as fast as the ICS ROMS (those ICS ROMS just flew), but everything works 100% perfectly and it still did clear up some of the major issues I was having with stock (CPU pegging at 100% for long periods, dialer getting hung up not allowing me to make calls).
With the ICSish theme, it looks like I'm on ICS even.
The DX and ICS weren't made for each other (not unless they release ICS drivers ever). People who tinker a lot might just live with the bugs because it's fun and it sure is fast, but it wasn't for me.