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I understand the need to tweak, but it seems that tweaking OpenGL only seems to improve LWPs, at the sacrifice of 3D games and Google Maps.
I'm running FreshToast 1.1, and I think it has a hacked up OpenGL.
Google Maps Navigation works, but the screen "blinks" every 2-3 seconds, and to be honest, the 3D performance in gaming is worse than my 1.5 ROM without overclocking or JIT or anything. Damage Control (whichever one he didn't mess with OpenGL) seemed to work just as good as 1.5
Is OpenGL baked into the Kernel? Or can I just push some files and have OpenGL back to the way it was from the "original" sprint release, or whatever it is that works with Google Nav.
herm... ive done nothing to opengl in my build. that is the same opengl that is in every single 2.1 RUU. the same libs that are gonna be in the official update from Sprint. the kernel however has been modified. but only modified to support opengl 1.1 which is eclair opengl. my kernel drivers actually work better then the .29 kernel drivers. producing better fps and better blit ability then .29 kernel drivers. if a game runs funny and is blinking and such it could be the game itself or the games lack of support for opengl 1.1. if ur sayin the games u play work better in cupcake then idk what to say. other then that load up cupcake and run neocore. come back and give me a report. i doubt ur gonna get anything close to what opengl1.1 produces.
as for the LWP opengl kill. all they are doing is adding cupcake opengl libs or noncompatable opengl libs and getting LWP to work. i have not done this and actually think its pointless. but some dont play games and just want some cool LWPs. who am i to judge?
anyhow in my build ur getting the same opengl that ur gonna get in any eclair build using eclair libs. love it or hate it there is nothing we can do about it. the only advantage to using mine and the other OC builds is the CPU is able to process the information faster. thus giving u better frame rates. this all varies of course on the game and what it wants. ive played a few games in testing and have found OC, opengl1.1, and BFS have given a much better feel and framerates. while others may feel good and run smooth but have glitchy bitmaps and textures. for example: homerunbattle... it has awesome actual game play but there seem to be textures that flip out. on the other hand ive played toonwarz which really sucked before, but is totally smooth and actually playable now. also R.thunder lite has shown major improvements. it even says its for high end devices and before all the cpu and shed mods it was totally unplayable. now its playable and actually fun if u ditch the sound to improve frame rates. so yeah i can see where ur coming from. but i also know that OC, BFS, and opengl 1.1 together have made my hero go from playing pong to actually rendering some awesome games. a few glitches and pixelation is to be exspected if ur gonna push a device to play a game it wasnt meant to, or crank the cpu up to get better frame rates. it all come down to hardware. were never gonna make the hero run like a nexus. but..... ive given it the boyscout effort.
also i welcome people to review my kernel source and if they find improvements to submit changes. if u got a better way to make our hardware render please pm me make a patch, or whatever. i be glad to sign ur name to it and push it to my tree.
is there no command or syntax for disabling the opengl in a smali in the lwp's to make them stick? also, I've seen some magic roms with a sup setup app that has an option to disable 3d... I'm assuming this means opengl, as I am pretty damn sure they don't have a seperate gpu, is it possible to make this work on our hero's? Turn it off for keeping your lwp's, turning it on to play games?
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i love how your like one of the smartest guys here but have the worst grammer
gives hope to us small time guys
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lmfao
grammar* ;/
nice sig!
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its thanks to toast i have any hope left
I meant no disrespect as far as your work is considered toast, sorry if it came off that way. You and Flipz have "the hottest ****" (no other way to put it ;-) ).
I'm actually referring to two separate issues. One is Google Maps Navigation. The 3D moving map blinking. I was running Aloyouis (however you spell it) and I know he was doing something with the OpenGL and in turn it broke Google Nav. Now after running Google Nav on freshtoast it works, but is very glitchy. On Aloyouis it was just a black screen. I assumed it had something to do with making LWP work.
The other is actual gameplay lag. I'll have to try toonwarz again. I remember it seemed cool, but too laggy. The game I was referring to in particular was Armagodon Squadron. Then again it may be due to the fact that It's loading a lot of textures off the SD card (A2SD) I'll try putting it on internal memory.
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i love how your like one of the smartest guys here but have the worst grammer
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and with open gl. i get that weird flashing sometimes with rthunder2. but not bad. i game too on my hero. thats why i left blackberry in the first place. but anyways the .27 OC kernel and my modified rom plays rthunder2 smooth even with sound.
no offense taken(even on the grammar crack). anyhow i was trying to inform. many people are misinformed on these forums. i see things all the time like "opengl fix" and "kernel hack", that are far from what the mods really are. "opengl fix" really means "broken opengl so u can have nicer lwp" and " kernel mod" really means "added a few lines to the ramdisk". its kinda funny from my point of view because most actually think its some sort of real "fix" or "mod to the kernel". being misinformed is what started this thread. if the "rom devs" that use those terms wouldve been more descriptive of what they actually did. then u wouldve known what "opengl fix" really meant. but its also a domino effect that causes that to happen. when i see a fix im not all jumping head first to be first man out. i actually look at what was done and try to figure out how it was done. anyhow im always here to help everyone and when i seen the post i knew u needed to know a few things about the "opengl fixes" that have been gong around.
In that case, are you aware of the "glitching" in google maps nav?
Its as if when driving, its loading a different set of images (maps) and flashes it for a few ms every say.... 5-8 seconds.
I just noticed there is an update for google maps, so im going to update and see if its fixed tomorrow when I do my errand runs.
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In that case, are you aware of the "glitching" in google maps nav?
Its as if when driving, its loading a different set of images (maps) and flashes it for a few ms every say.... 5-8 seconds.
I just noticed there is an update for google maps, so im going to update and see if its fixed tomorrow when I do my errand runs.
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ill try it in the mornin
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I agree, I saw the flashes in google nav, but just blew it off and not sure why its happening. It doesnt really bother me, but if it can be fixed, then thats great!
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no offense taken(even on the grammar crack). anyhow i was trying to inform. many people are misinformed on these forums. i see things all the time like "opengl fix" and "kernel hack", that are far from what the mods really are. "opengl fix" really means "broken opengl so u can have nicer lwp" and " kernel mod" really means "added a few lines to the ramdisk". its kinda funny from my point of view because most actually think its some sort of real "fix" or "mod to the kernel". being misinformed is what started this thread. if the "rom devs" that use those terms wouldve been more descriptive of what they actually did. then u wouldve known what "opengl fix" really meant. but its also a domino effect that causes that to happen. when i see a fix im not all jumping head first to be first man out. i actually look at what was done and try to figure out how it was done. anyhow im always here to help everyone and when i seen the post i knew u needed to know a few things about the "opengl fixes" that have been gong around.
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lol whats wrong with his grammar, hahaha thats how everyone talks online, i use most of those words when texting, i hardcore say gonna, i hate typing out going to.
If there was no dev community so you were only able to use the stock firmware, with no customizations or fixes (jit, etc...). Would you still like the phone? How would it change how you feel about it?
I personally think that I would hate my x10 if I was forced to stay on stock, as it is super laggy and buggy...
Without JIT I think I will be a bit annoyed by the speed of my X10, but will try to adopt myself with it since I tried the stock 2.1 without JIT and it was little okay, won't be that great though. But since I'm a computer scientist I know that I would implement the JIT myself so I don't think it will affect me that much.
I'm currently satisfied with the performance of the stock with JIT with mediascape and without timescape.
I will agree about the laggy part, but disagree with buggy because I didn't find bugs yet, but that's me
many thanks to Z for the 2.2 and jit..... and j for his hard work trying to customize 2.3 for us... otherwise the best thing about the stock was mediascape and camcorder.
See it is this line of thinking that makes me question SE... The x10 is a great phone when modded, but if you were to own it completely unmodified (say you didn't know how), I think it would be a horrible experience..
Think of it this way, You don't miss what you don't have.
When I forst got my phone, I LOVED it, it was my first smartphone(and SE's too ) and it was great. But when I learned about all these customizations I could do, I could never go back to stock.
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See it is this line of thinking that makes me question SE... The x10 is a great phone when modded, but if you were to own it completely unmodified (say you didn't know how), I think it would be a horrible experience..
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True, since its their first Android device they are inexperienced but that's not an excuse. However I think most of the devices are the same when they first come up, talking about devices 1-2 years ago giving exception to HTC.
New devices now come with better optimizations from stock (samsung,SE,motorola,HTC)
I still think you'd notice how laggy it was
Can't deny that, 2.2 is always faster than 2.1
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Can't deny that, 2.2 is always faster than 2.1
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Oh definitely...
I think SE should have considered maybe timescape and mediascape being more optional from the very start, once they noticed how majorly they hogged memory.
A lot of 2.1 firmware versions from other companies still run pretty well, a lot better than SE's version.
I just can't imagine being stuck with it :S Hell, many people don't even have dual touch yet!
After the latest update I think SE made noticeable improvement. It never was as bad for me as you describe and I haven't noticed any bugs. My first random reboot and force closes came after installing 2.2. Just rooting and uninstalling bloatware was good enough for me. However, after enabling JIT mine responded almost instantaneously and was smooth as butter. I didn't think it could be any faster than that until I tried 2.2.
I don't understand how you can say that the stock ROM is horrible. What's going on in your life that half a second is unexceptable? Maybe it's an age thing, because most of us over 30 that grew up during the PC revolution know what lag is really is. What you call laggy is nothing compared to the days of upgrading our PCs in increments of 8mb of RAM. The first time I heard the world Gig was in the movie "Back to the future" when the professor needed 1.21 gigawatts of power to time travel. You don't like waiting a second or less? Try 10 to 15 seconds minimum. Let's remember 90% haven't hacked their phones at all, and the X10 is fairing pretty well in the "real world".
I am most thankful for the devs and xda. You think you have it bad? If it wasn't for them I wouldn't even have my X10a anymore. My provider, AT&T, didn't even update to 2.1.
million X10 are sold....less 500-1000 may have modded their phones......still thousands have the stock ROM,may be 1.6 with no dual touch too..!!!!!!!
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After the latest update I think SE made noticeable improvement. It never was as bad for me as you describe and I haven't noticed any bugs. My first random reboot and force closes came after installing 2.2. Just rooting and uninstalling bloatware was good enough for me. However, after enabling JIT mine responded almost instantaneously and was smooth as butter. I didn't think it could be any faster than that until I tried 2.2.
I don't understand how you can say that the stock ROM is horrible. What's going on in your life that half a second is unexceptable? Maybe it's an age thing, because most of us over 30 that grew up during the PC revolution know what lag is really is. What you call laggy is nothing compared to the days of upgrading our PCs in increments of 8mb of RAM. The first time I heard the world Gig was in the movie "Back to the future" when the professor needed 1.21 gigawatts of power to time travel. You don't like waiting a second or less? Try 10 to 15 seconds minimum. Let's remember 90% haven't hacked their phones at all, and the X10 is fairing pretty well in the "real world".
I am most thankful for the devs and xda. You think you have it bad? If it wasn't for them I wouldn't even have my X10a anymore. My provider, AT&T, didn't even update to 2.1.
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I'm 28 so I'm not much younger than you...
Stock was very laggy, especially in comparison to most high end (which look at it's price, it was/is high end) smartphones out there... with it's specs, you don't expect that kind of lag. Read reviews, comparisons, etc... I'm not the only one who thought that.
You can't compare it to phones years before and say "well I remember when....". The zeitgeist (spirit of the age) dictates that we will judge things based upon the relevant facets of comparison at that particular timeframe.
I dunno what to tell you guys... I've tried almost all the custom ROMs out there, with all the themes, and I've always come back to stock. I'm willing to live with the lag (which is considerable) if it means I get to keep my Timescape and social phonebook. Not like I really need them, just that I'm really used to them. I will, on occasion flash the newest custom ROM just to see, hope, that it is completely working, rather than half of the functions not working. And the very next day I will find a need for something that isn't working, and back to stock.
The first 2.1 stock ROM was extremely laggy, as well as the first 1.6 ROM. SE made improvements to the speed on both occasions, but I still think opening up your phonebook shouldn't take 5 seconds, and opening the camera app shouldn't take 10 seconds. Just sayin...
do u guys ever experienced laggy in ninjump when mod to 2.2?
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I dunno what to tell you guys... I've tried almost all the custom ROMs out there, with all the themes, and I've always come back to stock. I'm willing to live with the lag (which is considerable) if it means I get to keep my Timescape and social phonebook. Not like I really need them, just that I'm really used to them. I will, on occasion flash the newest custom ROM just to see, hope, that it is completely working, rather than half of the functions not working. And the very next day I will find a need for something that isn't working, and back to stock.
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This.
For most users, the stock is fantastic (2.1, 54 baseband MT version) It's only the very small % of people here who care, and a even smaller % of those people here who even use a custom rom.
I love the dev's here. They do awesome work and can create beautiful work out of ****. Very talented. I also love custom roms for my devices. That being said, I like custom roms WHEN THEY WORK.
So far, we don't have any roms that work fully. If you use a custom rom, you have to sacrifice many features in order to run 2.2 or 2.3. To some, myself included, a lot of these features are must haves on my device. Until one of the DEV's can make a rom that includes the following working, stock will win out..
-Camera
-Video recording (hd)
-video playback
-Wifi tethering
-Video streaming, including youtube etc
-facebook or other social apps.
These types of features are not working in all of the roms available to us. Now, some of the above may work on some of the custom roms, but every one has at least 2 of the above mentioned NOT working in their custom rom.
Unfortunately most of non-working features are seen by the devs as minor issues, and backburner problems.
""only" camera not working"
"Camera not working, and other "minor" features"
etc
Sorry guys, but these things are "must" haves on a lot of peoples personal devices. In order to run 2.3 I have to have no camera, wifi, video streaming, social apps.. etc? Stock will win every time.
I have a beautiful "smart phone" with awesome features so I can use them. Not so I can break the awesome features it has and make it a "dumb phone." just so I'm running 2.3 which is so00o much faster then 2.1, so I can check my mail faster?
Again, love the devs and their work and still praying for the day that all awesome features of our phones and android are working on a custom rom.
To the OP's original questions: Would you still like the phone? How would it change how you feel about it?
Yes, the x10 since it's 2.1 and new MT update, it is much improved and awesome. I love it. It's the best looking device out there, feels the best sitting in your hand then any other device.
Free x10 and wolf breaks xm both work fantastic and the camera is better than on stock rom..
I would be embarrassed to show people my phone on stock.. "look at this guys! Oh wait ten minutes til it works properly..."
If it was great for most people then why are ratings and reviews so poor? Go look at amplicate or cnet and read what people think..
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Free x10 and wolf breaks xm both work fantastic and the camera is better than on stock rom..
I would be embarrassed to show people my phone on stock.. "look at this guys! Oh wait ten minutes til it works properly..."
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Funny you should say that as I was embarrassed when one of my friends asked my at the pub to take a pic of him and a celeb that we ran into.
"I can't" " why not, you're phone has an awesome camera" " well no, i have a custom rom installed, the camera doesn't work" " that's dumb bro"
Or when a few days later I was rear ended. We got out to take a look at the damage. " dude, take a pic" " I can't, remember? camera not working" " dude..."
That being said, Wolf's rom is awesome. edited. Was thinking of something else as 2.1. It's still awesome and IMO the absolute best option from the new stock.
feex10 rom is 2.2, but again, lacking features and has broken elements.
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Funny you should say that as I was embarrassed when one of my friends asked my at the pub to take a pic of him and a celeb that we ran into.
"I can't" " why not, you're phone has an awesome camera" " well no, i have a custom rom installed, the camera doesn't work" " that's dumb bro"
Or when a few days later I was rear ended. We got out to take a look at the damage. " dude, take a pic" " I can't, remember? camera not working" " dude..."
That being said, Wolf's rom is awesome. But its 2.1.
feex10 rom is 2.2, but again, lacking features and has broken elements.
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What? Wolf's is 2.2 dude...
the ONLY thing not working in either in camcorder (and it works with a 3rd party app)
The camera in both is better than stock
I went back to SE's 2.1 when they updated... couldn't believe how much better the phone is with Z's beta 4. Not even comparable. (imho)
If there was no dev community for this phone, I definatly would have of sold it.
But now I love it
I would still love the phone personally. For me the lag was bearable (mostly). Also my carrier have stated they don't do firmware updates, so I would still be stuck on the original 1.6 R...14 firmware haha. Even back then the phone was still quite usable for me. You can't miss what u never had. But in saying that, I love my cm6 rom lol
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This is really a heads-up to people thinking of trying one of the many (and generally, excellent) 2.3.4 ROMs cooked up in this forum.
There's a fudge, which works fairly well, which uses brute force (ie, the CPU) to handle the scrolling, but this will obviously have a significant effect on battery life since it's a job which the GPU does very well, but the CPU struggles with. Equally, it leaves less brainpower available for page rendering so you will notice issues with Flash, especially if you try to scroll around the page at the same time.
This affects the smoothness of both the scrolling in the browser and the double-tap-to-zoom functionality, and as yet there is no ideal fix. There are two solutions, neither of them perfect:
1) Download one of the custom firmware images and accept that the browser will be laggy compared to 2.3.3.
OR​
2) Download the original, leaked, 2.3.4 firmware and use that. Should be fine. You can root it without a problem, but you're going to say goodbye to themes and many of the brilliant improvements put in by the chefs. "Lag-free" means that it's usable and nothing else.
This isn't mentioned in any of the firmware description threads, and if, like me, the silky smooth scrolling of the browser is a key point it's worth bearing in mind and holding off for the time being. No doubt a solution will be found.
Edit: Title corrected as suggested. Specifically, it's de-odexed firmware that encounters this issue.
Well I did point out to the masses that this was a test firmware and was never meant to be released to the public. Issues like this is to be expected.
Absolutely, IntraTech, but most people's experience is that leaked firmware works perfectly well and for the most part this is true. Having said that, whether this can be fixed at all even with the full release is questionable.
I loathe anything to do with ODEXing.
For reference, the original thread where people are working hell-for-leather to solve the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163285
Great info. That is why I am staying with 2.3.3
Am I really the only one hoping they'll get rid of hardware acceleration in the official 2.3.4 firmware ?
I think it's better without HW rendering. OK it's not as smooth but at least you can resize the page in real time (instead of zooming on a picture of the page, creating an ugly mess of pixels) and scroll as fast as you want without seeing a checkered background while the browser is struggling to render the page.
I've flashed the original leaked KG1, rooted with CF and replace the kernel with the one from Cognition v1.13, so far so good. You loose theming, powermenu, but I care more about battery life and user experience. I have removed all the samsung apps (except for the Social Hub + IM, which I find quite usefull), not too much time for testing the battery life but durin a whole night with screen off, wifi on(switched off by screen off I suppose) and data and sync enable on 3 email accounts and 3 social accounts, I lost 3%, seems quite good for me.
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Am I really the only one hoping they'll get rid of hardware acceleration in the official 2.3.4 firmware ?
I think it's better without HW rendering. OK it's not as smooth but at least you can resize the page in real time (instead of zooming on a picture of the page, creating an ugly mess of pixels) and scroll as fast as you want without seeing a checkered background while the browser is struggling to render the page.
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yes I think you're the only one in the world, or maybe one of the few people hoping that and for sure you will not be happy because it's pretty sure this will not happen. The strong key of the galaxy s 2 is definely the browser and its smoothness.
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Am I really the only one hoping they'll get rid of hardware acceleration in the official 2.3.4 firmware ?
I think it's better without HW rendering. OK it's not as smooth but at least you can resize the page in real time (instead of zooming on a picture of the page, creating an ugly mess of pixels) and scroll as fast as you want without seeing a checkered background while the browser is struggling to render the page.
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i hate of lag.rather seeing checkboards.and it s not as bad as you said.
why the panic? everyone should be well aware of what has gone on here, alternatively just use a third party browser...
Personally speaking I would want to see all HW acceleration turned on for everything.
In reference to this issue I wouldn't invest too much time trying to fix it as the official 2.3.4 release may not even have this problem.
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why the panic? everyone should be well aware of what has gone on here, alternatively just use a third party browser...
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+1.
Im pretty sure other improvements outweighs the laggy browser. And come on, do we flash a ROM because we're going use the stock browser? I do flash a ROM because I want my phone to be functional/stable, not because of the browser
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Personally speaking I would want to see all HW acceleration turned on for everything.
In reference to this issue I wouldn't invest too much time trying to fix it as the official 2.3.4 release may not even have this problem.
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The problem is not in the firmware itself. The stock kg1 has no problem with the browser but it happens on deodexed roms
Since kf1 we've had this problem solved using an older version of the browser or removing part of hw acceleration. Now both tweaks don't work and the chefs have to turn off hw acceleration at all
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Exactly because of this reason, i'm sporting the stock since 2.3.4. Browser is an important thing for me and lag on it is not acceptable. Won't trade it for themes.
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The problem is not in the firmware itself. The stock kg1 has no problem with the browser but it happens on deodexed roms
Since kf1 we've had this problem solved using an older version of the browser or removing part of hw acceleration. Now both tweaks don't work and the chefs have to turn off hw acceleration at all
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I know the issue is not with the firmware itself was just thinking that maybe when 2.3.4 finally gets released it may have a more up to date browser which can be deodexed and keep all the acceleration turned on.
This is the biggest reason why I never keep a custom 2.3.4 rom on for long because the browser is very laggy.
Given time I am sure all these bugs will be addressed.
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Exactly because of this reason, i'm sporting the stock since 2.3.4. Browser is an important thing for me and lag on it is not acceptable. Won't trade it for themes.
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That's not true. Odwxed roms could be themed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154278
Here you'll find various themes for stock odexed kg1
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I know the issue is not with the firmware itself was just thinking that maybe when 2.3.4 finally gets released it may have a more up to date browser which can be deodexed and keep all the acceleration turned on.
This is the biggest reason why I never keep a custom 2.3.4 rom on for long because the browser is very laggy.
Given time I am sure all these bugs will be addressed.
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Yes but it seems you haven't understood. The problem is here since kf1. Last usable was ke2
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Yes but it seems you haven't understood. The problem is here since kf1. Last usable was ke2
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Ahh cool I misunderstood... learnt something new
Also could Samsung be doing this on purpose to make the experience 'lesser' on a custom rom?
Yeah I flashed Cognition 1.13 last night and I was wondering why the browser was a bit choppier... guess I'll revert back to 2.3.3 and wait. Opera Mobile is still a great alternative though =)
The title is misleading: Stock 2.3.4's browser doesn't have the slightest problem.
The claim that stock ROM can't be themed is totally false too. Just look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154278
The custom ROMs at this point include only small tweaks and custom skins, all of which can be applied manually to stock ROM. There's really no compelling reason to flash anything but stock ROM at this point anyway. Unless CM7 gets released, it'll likely stay this way.
leomar rom is 2.3.4 and have the hw acceleration in browser
Well guys, I don't honestly know what to think about the new OTA. I tried it but wasn't overly impressed with it. However the speed and battery life is kinda nice. I still feel like it is lacking some features that a GB update should have had and I also feel VZW and HTC rushed this one. What do yall think?
Good Base For Future Mods
I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
I ran the leak for a while, I really liked it because of speed, but I can't believe they took mobile network, airplane and silent mode out of the power menu.
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I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
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Thats a good point. I love CM myself, been a long time fan.
I've been using the rooted leak version for about 24 hours now, moving from an EVO based mod. The new one is definitely zippier, even on scrolling, etc. I'll keep using it, but looking forward to new custom builds once the source is out and modders get their hands on this kernel.
Well, this wasn't supposed to be as big a thing compared to when FroYo was released. Expectations of that magnitude for this release were not realistic.
Differences aren't visual per se, rather just a few functional ones.
All in all, gingerbread, meh.....
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For me, it's a few things.
Feels unfinished. What I mean is some things are not what i expected. For example, i use google talk alot and with Froyo, the icon in the bar was a Sense based one. Now it's just Google Talk. This is fine, but i have to ask - was this on purpose? or a slip up?
next, I don't like NOT being able to disable ALL animations. In froyo, i could turn off the clock animations, weather ones and even the OS ones. I like that. In this one, I can't... only OS.
I have a had a few FC's with google voice setup (cleared up once configured) and Scrabble rarely notifies me of a move, but those could be app related.
battery life remains to be seen since I need to charge my phone all the way up while powered off.
it's definitely quick, but it took like 5 minutes before I started missing Synergy. Looking forward to seeing what can be done with the update.
It's a nice temporary fix for my ocd rom flashing but i think devs and most others are waiting for the final ota with some bug fixes. Isn't this lacking the new radio as well? Otherwise I am really happy it looks like they fixed the low space /data/data notification.
If we are lucky the devs will pump out some amazing roms for us that are stable and fast. Just gimme pulldown widgets, 5-row apps, recent apps in notification, and remapped rosie buttons and i'm set!
joblabbo said:
snip Isn't this lacking the new radio as well?
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The ones posted in this forum are missing the radio but that is because the source that gave it to our devs asked that they not include the radio when they compiled and uploaded the rom. For what reason? Who knows....
I think the update should've added sense 2.1..
I miss power toggle pull downs and right rosie, but other than that, everything for me just works and works fast. If someone can add some 2.1 features, that would be nice. Been on this since it came out, zero issues, zero lag. I use my phone for business with some music, dont install more than zbout 4 apps. Everything flies. Look at it this way, if no other roms could ever have been ported over, is this a good update from when you first got your dinc? I say hell yes. The ports are great, im not baggin cause ive flashed every rom here, but this was made for our phone. Could it have had 2.1, sure, would it have worked as good, i doubt it. All ports have some issues, all be it very minor, but they also develop lag and more issues the longer you use them. Im willin to wait a week and see what happens, im sure we will see a different ota eventally, fat lady aint singin yet.
curious about battery life
I've been using miui and have been getting good battery life. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the new ginger
All I could think about was how ridiculously fast Sense 1.0 would be on any Gingerbread ROM.
If i were a dev I would definitely be cooking up a clean, streamlined, unbelievably fast Sense 1.0 ROM for users who don't need what 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0 have to offer.
That being said, as far as the OTA goes... We'll see?
I like the speed of this OTA, too. It's very snappy. But I'm having a problem with voice input recognizing speech. Is this a problem for anyone else?
I was using bluetooth and I said open calender and it would randomly pick a number to call from my contacts.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
It's a problem with GB in general. Try using voice search while driving and you can scream in the mic until you're blue in the face. It won't recognize anything you say.
Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
dark_isz said:
Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
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It might be a combo of things. All I know is it worked perfectly for me on Froyo.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=4399393a95831baa&hl=en
It was fun to try it out and it's fast, but I went back to Community RC5. I won't be looking back, im sure OVO will rip whatever is good and stick it in community.
Ok guys, so I know ICS has this feature already, and we're all optimistic about the abilities of our devs and the already leaked ICS build. BUT, the galaxy note DOES have rotation animation in Gingerbread/TW, so I find it surprising it hasn't been ported over, either by our devs or samsung. I know its little insignificant eye candy but hey, I'm not running my dual-core phone at 1.6GHz for nothin Would be nice to see it in a gingerbread rom while we all wait for a perfectly stable ICS...
(I assume this belongs here and NOT in the dev section as I did not create it, if not move it)
EDIT: I should have asked, since most of the time when I see these threads I say "Because you haven't made it yet". Maybe I should have asked rather then if anyone had tried copying the framework "file" (framework.jar?) and seeing what effect it had on the gsII. I know they're different resolutions but it may work *shrugs*. I'm not opposed to experimenting myself but a starting point (or simple 'Nope, tried it, not happening') would be nice.
It's already been done. I have it installed and, except for a few small glitches (mainly in Gallery application), it looks very good.
it has been done here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362354
Awesome, thanks guys. Guess I didn't look hard enough :/ running now, works great with the gallery fix
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Guess I didn't look hard enough :/
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It's the first search result for keywords "rotate animation". Just sayin`.