[Q] Some Android Questions - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Okay, so I recently bought my self an HD2 and I have been reading alot about the Android Builds but some stuff are still unclear to me. I have a couple of questions (probably very noobish) that I would like to ask.
1st. I see that every build has it's own Kernel and that there are many different Kernels. I want to know if I can change only the Kernel of a Android Build and also is there a place to read what different Kernels have to offer. For example what is the difference between MDJ S7.7, MDJ S7.6, Hastarin 8.5.3 and many more?
2nd. I read that I can copy the data.img (which I presume are my settings and stuff, but I am not sure ?) and paste in other Android Build and I want to know if it works with every build. Also what is the difference between 512 mb and 1gb ones and even bigger ones (2gb for example).
3rd. I know this is a very stupid question, but still I would like to here your opinions. Will there ever at any time be an Android ROM on the HTC HD2, cause this would greatly increase the batery life.
Well that's it for now. I hope I am not a complete moron to you guys and if you are lazy to answer me the questions please tell me a thread where I can read the answers, because I couldn't find one .

PaKo0o said:
Okay, so I recently bought my self an HD2 and I have been reading alot about the Android Builds but some stuff are still unclear to me. I have a couple of questions (probably very noobish) that I would like to ask.
1st. I see that every build has it's own Kernel and that there are many different Kernels. I want to know if I can change only the Kernel of a Android Build and also is there a place to read what different Kernels have to offer. For example what is the difference between MDJ S7.7, MDJ S7.6, Hastarin 8.5.3 and many more?
2nd. I read that I can copy the data.img (which I presume are my settings and stuff, but I am not sure ?) and paste in other Android Build and I want to know if it works with every build. Also what is the difference between 512 mb and 1gb ones and even bigger ones (2gb for example).
3rd. I know this is a very stupid question, but still I would like to here your opinions. Will there ever at any time be an Android ROM on the HTC HD2, cause this would greatly increase the batery life.
Well that's it for now. I hope I am not a complete moron to you guys and if you are lazy to answer me the questions please tell me a thread where I can read the answers, because I couldn't find one .
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1. It's not being lazy to answer but you being lazy to read the instructions given in a particular build. If you thoroughly read the thread of each build then you'll know which kernel works and which dony. Also you can check the kernel thread to understand a particular kernel.
2. Same as number 1. Each build has instructions including the possibility to use the old data.img or you much have a clean one. Size has no relevance in speed, it's just the data space, like the internal storage of a native android phone.
3. I dont want to say it but it is a moronic question. Read before you ask, particularly the stickies.
By the way, you should ask in Q and A not in the discussion forum.
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There should be a read or ban policy
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There should be a read or ban policy
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Exactly...
Besides, he is not a newbie.
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I don't see what your problems are, seriously. I really read alot of threads but couldn't find out the answers to the first two questions. The roms only mention the Kernel, they don't state the differences and I couldn't find the Kernel threads. Same goes for the data.img. Even if it is explained I don't see why I'm a moron for missing it and even if u think that I am moron just don't post me a reply. As for my 3rd question I wanted your opinion, not anything based on facts, just what you guys think. Anyways, ban me if you like.
Regards

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I don't see what your problems are, seriously. I really read alot of threads but couldn't find out the answers to the first two questions. The roms only mention the Kernel, they don't state the differences and I couldn't find the Kernel threads. Same goes for the data.img. Even if it is explained I don't see why I'm a moron for missing it and even if u think that I am moron just don't post me a reply. As for my 3rd question I wanted your opinion, not anything based on facts, just what you guys think. Anyways, ban me if you like.
Regards
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You can't find the kernel threads? Seriously?!? Come on dude!
Read the CHANGELOGS, there you can see the difference. You still can't find it?
Again, same goes for the data.img, it is stated in each build thread.
No wonder you can't find it, you don't even know how to read replies.
I said "moronic question" on the third question not "you are a moron". Why moronic? Why do you ask for an opinion on a factual idea? Devs in XDA are a,ready testing and retesting Android on Nand. If you don't what that is, then that is where you really need to read threads specially stickies.
By the way, we don't have problems last time I checked. How about you, when did you check yourself?

read this for a start, any more question, you can come back and we will answer it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734335
Don't worry, the guyz above are just worked out with over flashing syndrome! happens to me all the time

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[Q] Android as the main OS. I got a question

As I'm using my mattc Android 1.5b build on my HD2 and it works almost PERFECT, I can't stop wondering if a flash ROM will be available in the future..
The reason I am asking about this is because whatever HTC winmo model I'm googling for (TD2 android, Blackstone Android..etc...etc) I ONLY find HaRET boot's.. As I haven't seen any Android flash ROM I'm wondering if that's even possible..?
-Kim
You should really search before making a new post. Its not possible yet and if it was you would see a thread about it... This question has been asked about 40 times this month alone...When it comes out trust me you will know, So long as you READ and Follw this site like the rest of us
Yes I do read and follow. But I'm abit newbish on theese forums. I just found out that I should have questioned this in one of the stickys.. I apologize..
About that it's not possible, do you mean on the HD2 or in general?
My questions will go to the right thread from now on
As far as I've read it's looking like it MAY happen soonish. Currently, no all the builds are loaded off of your SD.
keem85 said:
Yes I do read and follow. But I'm abit newbish on theese forums. I just found out that I should have questioned this in one of the stickys.. I apologize..
About that it's not possible, do you mean on the HD2 or in general?
My questions will go to the right thread from now on
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OR you could search, or even browse the forums for the answer, instead of asking a question which seems to be answered at least once a day here
I'm a 'newbie' too.... and we would forever be 'newbies' without searching/browsing/reading.
Check HTC Kaiser. It has NAND Android, and is/was winmo based.
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"NAND" was the word! I didn't know that. Thanks Now I found ALOT about this

[Q] My First HD2 T-MOBILE - how to install android 2.2 stable and Win 7 and Win 6.5.X

hi all friend,
It's my first time on HTC HD T-Mobile.
I'm not able to find the right topic about installing the 3 OS in HTC HD2
I would like to install 3 OS together in my phone by backup the existing win 6.5 OS
OS are :
The Stable android 2.2
Window Mobile 7
Customized Window 6.5.x
Would you please guide me the right topic ?
Thanks
Jame2d
Not Possible. Wrong section.
Try search
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Firstly, you cant run all 3 OS's, You can run combinations of 2 like WP7 on NAND and Android on SD or Android on both NAND and SD or WM6.5 on NAND and Android on SD.
Second, how on earth does this look like a questions forum?? In future post your questions in the Q&A forum.
Third, you obviously havent even spent 2 minutes looking at forum titles or reading the guides so before you start asking loads of questions everywhere do yourself a favor and do some reading, lazyness is not tolerated here and frowned upon.
So, how do we get the OP banned for life? Clearly posts like this will continue if we don't cure (ban) the OP asap.
Thanks
TheATHEiST said:
Firstly, you cant run all 3 OS's, You can run combinations of 2 like WP7 on NAND and Android on SD or Android on both NAND and SD or WM6.5 on NAND and Android on SD.
Second, how on earth does this look like a questions forum?? In future post your questions in the Q&A forum.
Third, you obviously havent even spent 2 minutes looking at forum titles or reading the guides so before you start asking loads of questions everywhere do yourself a favor and do some reading, lazyness is not tolerated here and frowned upon.
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Thanks.......
I just wonder how it...
Six6Sicks said:
So, how do we get the OP banned for life? Clearly posts like this will continue if we don't cure (ban) the OP asap.
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Relax... its not a big deal. He asked a question. No need to ban... that's ridiculous.
To op... we can't triboot all 3 os's yet, but hopefully soon cotulla will release a sd bootable version of winmo6.5, at which point we can have wp7 on nand, and android and wm65 on sd card. So it'll probably just be a matter of time.
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zarathustrax said:
Relax... its not a big deal. He asked a question. No need to ban... that's ridiculous.
To op... we can't triboot all 3 os's yet, but hopefully soon cotulla will release a sd bootable version of winmo6.5, at which point we can have wp7 on nand, and android and wm65 on sd card. So it'll probably just be a matter of time.
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Thanks guy... that's a Good answesr and best Guru ...
Six6Sicks said:
So, how do we get the OP banned for life? Clearly posts like this will continue if we don't cure (ban) the OP asap.
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Relax... its not a big deal. He asked a question. No need to ban... that's ridiculous.
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It's good to see that not all the friendly, helpful people have left XDA just yet. I was starting to despair, this used to be a place where newbies could come to ask questions without fear of ridicule no matter how naive the request. Thanx zarathustrax for restoring my faith in XDA.
We at XDA ARE still friendly to n00bs with actual, legitimate questions. People like this OP that don't take the time to read ANYTHING are the people that we don't like. It's all about the reading folks. There really aren't that many things left about the HD2 that we don't know about, and a simple search will almost always result with the information that you need.
ashasaur said:
We at XDA ARE still friendly to n00bs with actual, legitimate questions. People like this OP that don't take the time to read ANYTHING are the people that we don't like. It's all about the reading folks. There really aren't that many things left about the HD2 that we don't know about, and a simple search will almost always result with the information that you need.
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All this info can be confusing to someone new to this... someone seeing the hd2 forum showing that the hd2 can run all these OS's, and seeing all this stuff about dualbooting and tri-booting when you include ubuntu... a search would probably bring back a variety of threads about dualbooting and tribooting. Even posts out there talking about the possibility of running all 3 OS's once the sd version of wm65 is released. All this information can be quite overwhelming to someone new and can be difficult to sort through and figure out. There is no need to talk about banning the poster or saying you don't like the poster because he didn't know what was possible and he asked a question in the wrong section.
Considering we may be able to run all 3 OS's on our HD2s possibly very soon, I don't think the question is that out of line... it probably should be in a Q&A section, but all the Q&A sections are for specific OS's, so that makes it hard to figure out what section this question should have been posted in, especially for a noobie. All that needed to be said was that it's not possible yet, but that it will probably be possible soon. Then the thread would have died and would have been out of your site.
martint235 said:
It's good to see that not all the friendly, helpful people have left XDA just yet. I was starting to despair, this used to be a place where newbies could come to ask questions without fear of ridicule no matter how naive the request. Thanx zarathustrax for restoring my faith in XDA.
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Yes.... hope all of you more friendly for the newbies ...
XDA is the forum for developer and also Non-Developer to visit ...
Take this forum more easier and information and also provide them more answer...
as XDA is Best Mobile Resource in the world right now...
Jame2d
I'm a newbie from Cambodia, Angkor wat..
zarathustrax said:
All this info can be confusing to someone new to this... someone seeing the hd2 forum showing that the hd2 can run all these OS's,...
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That's the right one..
Actually the newbie will have a hard time to read all the topic and consider which one is the best way to go...
imagine if you are the newbie or non-developer and the first time you visit xda forum ... what you should do ?...
Jame2d
jame_2d said:
That's the right one..
Actually the newbie will have a hard time to read all the topic and consider which one is the best way to go...
imagine if you are the newbie or non-developer and the first time you visit xda forum ... what you should do ?...
Jame2d
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I first came here after a google search looking for an app for a T-Mobile MDA Comapct III (HTC P3300). I had no idea about flashing ROMs or anything. I found the app and also noticed other apps that were useful.
After a good read on the ROM flashing, I decided to flash a ROM. It worked fine, but some of the aspects of the ROM I didn't like. So I tried another and another until I was happy. Then I did more reading and did some very basic tweaks.
This phone has been not used for a couple of years, until about a month ago. I again had a read about the latest ROMs and flashed one, didn't like it so I flashed another - which I quite like the look of. I added TomTom and downloaded the free city map. Now this phone is used as a backup in my car and also as a tracker if my car was to be stolen.

[Q] Full function android on HD2

I had an HD2 before but did not like windows at all and there was not a suitable android release for it so I sold it.
I really liked the phone but was wondering if there is a good android replacement where everything works available for it now?
Thanks for any help
I use the BOYPPC SHIFTPDA DHD V18 Rom (Desire HD) on my HD and it works perfectly on it.
if you have TMOUS LEO1024 i would check out this ROM. i have found that its pretty much bug free (none that i've found anyway) and a great ROM overall. also a great fast/stable ROM would be RAFDROID HD found here.
if you need a guide on re-installing Android i would check this thread out
I have not bought one yet but I'm looking on Craig's list and will find one soon.
Are the ones you guys mentioned Gingerbread?
Thanks for your help
I've tried almost all available NAND builds for HD2 and I can say that I found only one stable and fast build which is NexusHD2-Gingerbread".
I've tried those big, ram eaters - HTC SENSE ROM's
The thing that convinced me to install it was obviously HTC Sense, but I realized that it's unless if I am not using it's widgets (facebook, twitter, messages, etc).
But that wasn't the main reason why I left these roms, the main reason was the performance. Booting took much longer than on normal clean non-sense rom, I had to wait until it stabilize itself after each boot (1-2 minutes, htc sense had to load up and other processes). Scrolling wasn't smooth as on clean rom. These roms are more likely designed for 1024mb hd2's because on 512 hd2's it just doesn't fit (i don't know how it works on 1024mb but i guess the same, the only reason why I said it is for 1024mb hd2's was because mostly every htc sense build requires sd parition). The phone did not respond as quick as on clean gingerbread build. I just think that camera is better than on clean rom, pictures looks nice, sharp with good contrast.
I've also tried MUI roms.
These roms are nice and simple, eye catchy UI and advanced settings. Ability to change lots of things such as boot image and sound, custom firewall, etc. everything can be easily found, just few taps, everything is nicely designed.
However it is not as quick as clean rom, it can hang somewhere, and not always completely translated from Chinese to English. You can customize it for your own needs.
Normal clean roms are the best in my opinion.
I've used mostly all different roms, Android and Windows 7, and I always come back to NexusHD2-Gingerbread rom. I think that the only thing that makes me changing this rom is it's simplicity. It is the cleanest rom I ever seen and quickest one (you just need to change home launcher to GOLAUNCHER as it make the phone super fast and responsible, because on standard one scrolling through apps lags).
So I prefer this rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060 thanks to it's fast booting, fast responding and stability.
HTC SENSE ROM's might have better benchmarks but believe me it can't be compared with Clean NexusHD2-Gingerbread rom. Every gameloft game
work flawlessly on it.
It is just my opinion from the experience with those roms.
Do we have to have this same topic re-created and re-cycled every single [email protected]*king day?
Its not hard to use search or go through a couple of pages, Its just pure lazyness to create this topic, pure and simple.
Second vote for Gingerbread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060 It is just great and hassle-free, gave me no trouble of any kind.
As far as threads like this are concerned, I don't see why members can't ask for other members' opinions on what they like or dislike. Of course they can go and check out the available versions by going through the threads and posts, but personal recommendations would be the best way of finding out the outstanding work, rather than waste time going back and forth even after all the reading is done and all the problems are noted. It's not only time consuming, it can be daunting with the amount of information and releases that's out there. Perhaps we should run the best release poll and have it stickied to save time. After that whoever wants to try other things is free to rummage through the section and flash at their heart's desire.
@Gabriel51 your bound to get so many different answers because everyone likes different things as already pointed out
@dawid your right that if you dont use the widgets theres really no point at all so i have to give you that but lets talk about scores for a second. i personally clocked 41.something mflops on RAFDROID HD using linpack, a 2816 quadrant score & vellamo was only 29 points behind the dual core Sensation. now im not saying numbers are everything but you would have to admit thats pretty fast. although i really like the wifi calling feature available on the NexusHD2 ROM which im sadly missing :'( this feature alone is worth flashing that ROM
@TheATHEiST it does seem like this is covered on a daily basis from different people and a search would yeild results if people would ever use it. i will say though in all fairness that i use the search feature everytime im trying to find something but i feel the search function on this site is a little subpar causing it to be difficult at times to find what your looking for. most of the time i dont have any problem at all though.
TheATHEiST said:
Do we have to have this same topic re-created and re-cycled every single [email protected]*king day?
Its not hard to use search or go through a couple of pages, Its just pure lazyness to create this topic, pure and simple.
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I did not ask you to come here and read this post! Nor did I ask for your opinion about my ability to discover what I needed through the search.
I'm looking for the most current information on this set-up because as of last Dec. it was not in the cards for me on this phone.
You have something constructive to contribute great! If not STFU!!!
Gabriel51 said:
I had an HD2 before but did not like windows at all and there was not a suitable android release for it so I sold it.
I really liked the phone but was wondering if there is a good android replacement where everything works available for it now?
Thanks for any help
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Please tell me ARE YOU KIDDING???
enigma1nz said:
As far as threads like this are concerned, I don't see why members can't ask for other members' opinions on what they like
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They can, thats not the point, The point is this is the same question, over and over and over, Why create the same topic and ask it again instead of reading one of the other topics? You are going to get just as relevant answers by reading them as you are creating another topic. All topics like this do is clutter the place up.
For example, If I was to get a new device tomorrow, I wouldnt go and create a silly topic like this in my new devices section as its common sense it will have already been asked and answered, Instead I would go and read the topics that already exist and try some roms out for myself. The fun part is learning and adapting.
Gabriel51 said:
I did not ask you to come here and read this post!
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Yes you did when you created it.
Gabriel51 said:
Nor did I ask for your opinion about my ability to discover what I needed through the search.
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No but it needed to be said.
Gabriel51 said:
I'm looking for the most current information on this set-up because as of last Dec. it was not in the cards for me on this phone.
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Then why not do some reading? There is plenty of threads to get you started, All it takes is a couple of mins to look around and get latest info and try some latest roms. There is also plenty of "best" and "most stable" topic already created.
Gabriel51 said:
You have something constructive to contribute great! If not STFU!!!
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I did have something constructive to say and I DID say it!
Gabriel51 said:
I did not ask you to come here and read this post! Nor did I ask for your opinion about my ability to discover what I needed through the search.
I'm looking for the most current information on this set-up because as of last Dec. it was not in the cards for me on this phone.
You have something constructive to contribute great! If not STFU!!!
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You could search in the Nand development for your answer. Everybody Has their own opinion on a good rom. So do some reading and find your best choice Please be considerate with your Acronyms of speech.
TheATHEiST said:
I did have something constructive to say and I DID say it!
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+1 I've been away from the forums for a couple of months and nothing has changes, this isn't phones4u
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People come to this type of forum for help, some people "troll" looking for an opportunity to open their mouth spread their disease. I don't own the anti-Christ an explanation but I did search using the words in this topic.
There is a no stupid question for most educators and then there are those that expect you to glean through hoards of information in hopes of finding and discerning information relevant to ones needs.
I intend to continue to ask those with knowledge their opinion on topics such as this and those who wish to contribute understand then need to do so.
Thanks to all those that helped.
Gabriel51 said:
People come to this type of forum for help, some people "troll" looking for an opportunity to open their mouth spread their disease. I don't own the anti-Christ an explanation but I did search using the words in this topic.
There is a no stupid question for most educators and then there are those that expect you to glean through hoards of information in hopes of finding and discerning information relevant to ones needs.
I intend to continue to ask those with knowledge their opinion on topics such as this and those who wish to contribute understand then need to do so.
Thanks to all those that helped.
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I've had this argument a few times now. The point is if you all keep creating threads on topics that have already been Answered your making it harder for people to search for their answers because your cluttering up the forums with sh+t. I'm happy to spend some of MY time answering questions but when the op could of simply typed "revert hd2 to stock xda" into Google and found his answer it becomes quite tedious because this question does get asked everyday.
/edit and the op shouldn't be installing custom roms if he doesn't know how to remove them
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whynot66 said:
I've had this argument a few times now. The point is if you all keep creating threads on topics that have already been Answered your making it harder for people to search for their answers because your cluttering up the forums with sh+t. I'm happy to spend some of MY time answering questions but when the op could of simply typed "revert hd2 to stock xda" into Google and found his answer it becomes quite tedious because this question does get asked everyday.
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Now how in the hell would I think of that term? "simply typed "revert hd2 to stock xda" "
It's like talking to the deliverance gang, I'm done here Bubba!!!
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Gabriel51 said:
Now how in the hell would I think of that term? "simply typed "revert hd2 to stock xda" "
It's like talking to the deliverance gang, I'm done here Bubba!!!
unsubscribed
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Good lol because I just wrote that thinking I was in a different thread lol
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htccraze said:
i really like the wifi calling feature available on the NexusHD2 ROM which im sadly missing :'(
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T-Mobile WiFi Calling on NexusHD2-Gingerbread V2.8T: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038784
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Good lol because I just wrote that thinking I was in a different thread lol
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lmao ......
it doesnt really matter he doesnt even own an hd2
but he will be back probably with a new name
and start another thread just like this one

Fast and stable rom?

HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return
Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.
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Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.
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with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm
Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm
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EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).
Marvlesz said:
EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).
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the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Then stick to windows mobile.
Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.
Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
Ever-Never said:
you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
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Spamming for 10 posts? Please do it somewhere else.
Nigeldg said:
Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.
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Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA
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see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA
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I do get it. But it doesnt mean it doesnt frustrate me to see the responses in these threads just as it frustrates those who are rattled by the thread even existing who feel the need to jump on and respond.
If it bugs you... you can leave it alone and move on OR you can let the OP know your frustration by refusing to answer the question and telling them to get off XDA. But surely its easier to ignore it?
It honest feels that the forum has become quite arrogant at times especially where "newbs" are concerned. And it can feel at times slightly Elitist (those that Can vs those who need help) with a disregard to anyone who doesnt know where to begin.
One post i read earlier told a FM to "get off the android forum and dont come back" for asking a similar question... How is this helping and how is it got to the point where there are many 'thanks' thumbsup to this sort of response.
I doubt that OP would be back in a hurry but i guess if it stops them asking 'stupid' questions....Theres a pattern forming where some members here who have flashed successfully a few times then become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. Why not just 'Not Respond' at all??
Its like pack mentality sometimes and thankfully it is a minority of members who are rattled and on the whole XDA is immensely helpful to newcomers who will learn the hard way to never ask "that" question :banghead:
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We are members of this community, thus we have to do our best to make it better. We do this by telling people who post such threads about how wrong it is and the correct way of finding "the" rom. But it got out of hand, you can check that for yourself. Every other week, there is a thread asking the exact same thing, i.e "best rom, fastest, stable". Whereas it should be common sense that there is no best in subjective things as Nigel summed it.
Now the problem is that many people think xda is a support site. Here is a quote from a senior member that I couldn't agree more with:
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He is simply one of these XDA n00bs who comes here with the false impression that XDA is tech support for their manufacturers device.
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While it is true that you can find help on xda, that doesn't mean it is given on a silver platter. If you can't bother to help yourself, we can't bother to help you. Furthermore, finding a question that a 2-click search could've provided a more-than-satisfactory answer or finding a post that is almost the same as a two-rows-below post is rather very irritating.
... become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. ...
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That's impossible, if you're asking "what's the best rom", there is no way you're looking for a point in the right direction. Because basically there is no right direction. Some people even try to justify their stupid posts with even more stupid posts.
The HD2 has been out for about 4 years now. NO matter what your problem is, it has a 99% probability it has been asked AND answered before MULTIPLE times. Now if people can't bother to follow the very first rule of the forum rules, they don't deserve to be helped.
When they first registered on xda, they agreed to abide by the terms, rules and conditions. Now if you agree to abide by something and then break that thing, you take full responsibility and deserve everything you get for that breaking.
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Isnt this an Android Q&A forum
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A common misconception, this is a development forum (hence XDA developers ). Other than this I don't really have anything to add to Marvlesz's post tbh. You have to understand that when I posted that there had been literally three similar threads in a row. When you're posting a thread search results for the same or similar title even come up, so there wasn't any excuse for this thread to have been created. There's a subtle line between not knowing and not trying, and this is the latter.
It's problem to me too... I have 1.5 gb roms on my SD and no one fully work for me =(
Ok so i am aware that my earlier post was ott on my part and can only apologize. Must have been posting through some red mist I admit i jumped in without thinking and was unduely judgemental. Sorry bout that Everyone here esp devs are doing such amazing work for our gadgets to perform at their peaks and i am immensely appreciative of that. I agree with the above that this is first a "Development" forum and can be misconceived by some (myself included ) as somewhere where the answers are uniform and one in the same. However i see this is not the case and opinions to questions such as "whats the best, fastest most stable" etc, are so diverse and if everyone were to give an opinion then i guess these threads would also just get messy and lengthy with NO satifactory conclusion.
Sorry Guys...Really Didnt mean to offend. However i can see how my wording may have done so :banghead:
My tail is well and truly behind my legs as i type this
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Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
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it hapen to everyone, even me, you just make a wrong installation! Learn, serach and test before post. No other way to know which the best are.
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Kameirus said:
stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return
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I don't know why but I feel Guilty!
TouchWizMOD v1.0

[Q] Which is the most stable/bug free? JB vs JB

Hello everyone,
As you know there are different versions of JB ROM, from 4.1.1 to 4.2.2, but which is the most stable/bug free?
I'm making that question because I'm on 4.0.4 and my system is going to make heavy for many reasons, so I want to upgrade to JB if possible.
I never tried carefully any JB ROM therefore I can't take a judgment, but from comments and changelogs 4.1.2 seems the most stable JB ROM right now.
I always flashed and tested different ROMs everyday, but now I'm tired to flash all the time and I want a daily use one.
What are the common bugs that I've to expect from a JB ROM? And, what's your opinion about the topic?
NOTE: To keep clear and useful this thread don't give just general considerations
but indicate the differences from other ROMs that you tested so we can have an idea of your conception of benefits* and specify:
ROM Thread
Boot Loader
Type of installation (NAND, NativeSD, DataOnEXT)
* If you say your car is powerful, it doesn't mean anything, but if you say your car is more powerful than Fiat 500, then we can understand your meaning of Power
You shouldn't ask people to compare roms, it is a do-it-yourself kind of thing. Everyone has different experiences with the same rom. It is always about tastes.
And I think is against the rules here. Not sure, wont search. Lol.
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FCORivers said:
You shouldn't ask people to compare roms, it is a do-it-yourself kind of thing. Everyone has different experiences with the same rom. It is always about tastes.
And I think is against the rules here. Not sure, wont search. Lol.
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I'm just asking which version of JB is the most stable. I want to understand if there are any differences or if all the JB are almost the same
zenida said:
I'm just asking which version of JB is the most stable. I want to understand if there are any differences or if all the JB are almost the same
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37547355
That is what happens when you ask what is the 'best, most stable, fastest' rom.
If you want to know the difference, there is an app for that! I mean .. there is .. the ... CHANGELOG. There, you can see what the ROM is based on, what's been added and what's been removed. Compare changelogs to know the difference.
why are people that post threads like this not banned from xda for about a year
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37547355
That is what happens when you ask what is the 'best, most stable, fastest' rom.
If you want to know the difference, there is an app for that! I mean .. there is .. the ... CHANGELOG. There, you can see what the ROM is based on, what's been added and what's been removed. Compare changelogs to know the difference.
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Yes, but I'm not talking about a pure user experience, but related to bug level of the ROMs and its daily usability. I read changelogs, but I want to know about people opinions, furthermore it's not strictly related to a specific ROM, but just to Android versions. Just to have an idea on how much are serious some bugs
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why are people that post threads like this not banned from xda for about a year
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That's why you are not an admin or moderator man , because on a Q&A forum, people are free to ask about anything (that's the reason why Q&A exist) and ask about others experience or opinion could be useful for someone who wants to take a decision, just that. So don't flame on my thread and be respectful!
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Yes, but I'm not talking about a pure user experience, but related to bug level of the ROMs and its daily usability. I read changelogs, but I want to know about people opinions, furthermore it's not strictly related to a specific ROM, but just to Android versions. Just to have an idea on how much are serious some bugs
That's why you are not an admin or moderator man , because on a Q&A forum, people are free to ask about anything (that's the reason why Q&A exist) and ask about others experience or opinion could be useful for someone who wants to take a decision, just that. So don't flame on my thread and be respectful!
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Actually, he's right. These kinds of threads are hated. In Q&A, you are free to ask about anything as long as you follow the rules. Now, have you even read the rules? I'd say no, you haven't.
The very first rule on xda says "Search before posting", if you had searched about the most stable version/ROM, you would have come across numerous threads where people are flamed (just like you) for posting this, you will also know that no matter what your reason is, you should not ask about the 'most stable, fastest, best'. Because what you might think is bugless, others might think it is not. What you may like and think is stable, others might think otherwise.
I agree, he shouldn't have flamed, but again, you shouldn't have posted this thread in the first place.
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Actually, he's right. These kinds of threads are hated. In Q&A, you are free to ask about anything as long as you follow the rules. Now, have you even read the rules? I'd say no, you haven't.
The very first rule on xda says "Search before posting", if you had searched about the most stable version/ROM, you would have come across numerous threads where people are flamed (just like you) for posting this, you will also know that no matter what your reason is, you should not ask about the 'most stable, fastest, best'. Because what you might think is bugless, others might think it is not. What you may like and think is stable, others might think otherwise.
I agree, he shouldn't have flamed, but again, you shouldn't have posted this thread in the first place.
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I read and respected the rule of XDA, in fact I know there are several threads about "stable, best, fastest..." but those were too general discussions, I'm just asking about JB because we can state JB is really young but is the most updated version of Android, so I think it's important to have a point of reference on which version of JB could be declared stable as we can do with Gingerbread 2.3.7.
IMHO 4.1.2 seems to be the most stable, and I wanted to have an opinion from others just that.
AND... I can accept your way to say things, because I can understand and follow your advice... BUT I can't accept the way Kameirus answered my post, he was very and unrespectful about me. And the respect must be granted regardless of the XDA's rules!
In addition, I specified in the OP's note, it's important to indicate a point of comparison, to understand the meaning of each judgment, in this way we can get a more objective comparisons. If you say a ROM is more stable than another one, specifying the reasons why you think that we can reduce the subjective factors.
Now, if someone would share his experience I'll read very willingly, otherwise this thread will bump down without any war or flame
Instead of typing all of this u could have told him ROMs u tried. I recommend the pacman rom
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stevediaz said:
Instead of typing all of this u could have told him ROMs u tried. I recommend the pacman rom
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Well as I just said I used JB not very carefully, because I'm on NativeSD that is really great, but it share the same fat32 partition so Android folders and app folders are the same for each ROM that you install on it. I think it could gives problems.
I tried a bit the Pacman ROM and it has really nice features, as I already said Android 4.1.2 seems to be more stable than 4.2.2. Or now we can say 4.2.2 is stable as 4.1.2?
Also, I had a good feeling with JellyTime (4.1.2) but it seems not supported a lot from the developer. I would install it for heavy use but I don't want change ROM if problems comes up.
Do you think Pacman could be stated as daily usable? What are its defects? I see it's WIP yet and there's no BUG log on the OPs
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BUT I can't accept the way Kameirus answered my post, he was very and unrespectful about me. And the respect must be granted regardless of the XDA's rules!
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lmao my post had nothing to do about respect for anything it was an observation ..and no sorry respect is earned not granted in anything in life
and your right its a good thing im not and admin or moderator cause there would be alot less lazy people on XDA
wanna see how fast this thread can be closed
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lmao my post had nothing to do about respect for anything it was an observation ..and no sorry respect is earned not granted in anything in life
and your right its a good thing im not and admin or moderator cause there would be alot less lazy people on XDA
wanna see how fast this thread can be closed
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Please stop to flame here and learn how to speak with people, because respect is always a due!
Though, if respect is earned your answer was disrespectful without knowing who I was.
I don't know what's your culture, but mine stipulates that people who are not known, must be respected!
There is no such thing as the best ROM.
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