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O2 SMS Problem

I normally have my Mini S on suspend when it's in the pouch. I have for some reason been unable to recieve messages. The last SMS I got was from O2 when I turned the phone on the 1st time. Can anyone help me out on this? I don't really need MMS...just SMS.

Not receiving? or not getting the notification?
If its not receiving, how long has it been? networks sometimes get screwed up and hold messages in the server for ages. having said that "since i first turned the phone on" sounds like longer than 24 hrs.
Put the sim in another phone (if poss) - does it work?
I cant think of any real settings for SMS, they just arrive! If the SMS works in another phone follow it up here and hopefully someone will eb able to help. if it doesn't work in another phone, its a network issue - call O2.
If its the notifications you are missing, let us know - thats much easier!

I will give it a go in another phone but it's been a week since I turned the phone on. I'm not totally sure what you're referring to as notifications but I just don't see any messages when I go to the Text Messages folder in POE.

Ok...here's what I did, I stuck my sim into my friend's mobile and no backlog of SMSes arrived. I put the sim back in mine and then had him send me a message. Thing is the device was not suspended and I recieved the message immediately. I have my device normally in the suspend state. Could that be the problem?

I have my wizard in suspend (time out, press top button once etc) and have no problems picking up messages, they wake the device.
Notifications = the beep or sound for a text, wakes the device and puts the left softkey to show you have a SMS - it gives a preview there.
You say when you swapped out your sim you didn't get a backlog of messages so there isn't a load on the server waiting for you.
Last possible idea from me atm, you're not in the e-mail or MMS inbox are you? just checking

Well, I have checked the notifications and no, they're set as they should be and I do check the Text Messages folder. I have yet to setup email anyway :?
I wonder...if it's a network problem...damnable.

it sounds to me that its a phone issue not network. i'm on 02 and have now problem when my mini s is in stanby mode. it just switches on and beeps and a notification window appears.
cheers

Ok, now after subscribing to SMS.ac (just to send 1 single message and then terminate it) I got a total of 4 messages -1 confirmation for joining, 1 confirmation of joing, 1 test message, 1 cancellation message.
I cancelled when I noted that it was .5 / message :shock:. I'm puzzled. Maybe there was indeed a problem with the sim?

Beeble said:
Not receiving? or not getting the notification?
If its not receiving, how long has it been? networks sometimes get screwed up and hold messages in the server for ages. having said that "since i first turned the phone on" sounds like longer than 24 hrs.
Put the sim in another phone (if poss) - does it work?
I cant think of any real settings for SMS, they just arrive! If the SMS works in another phone follow it up here and hopefully someone will eb able to help. if it doesn't work in another phone, its a network issue - call O2.
If its the notifications you are missing, let us know - thats much easier!
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im having problems with my notifications of SMS, i recieve them fine but get no notification at all, i chack the sound settings and its all set up the same as standard but i get nothing any help??

message from network.

i recently upgraded the rom on my wizard and now when i switch it on i get a "message from network" notification telling me what area code to use for where i am.
This morning i kept getting the message every 10 seconds until i switched flight mode on and then off.
Is there a registry setting to turn off this annoying, unwelcomed addition.
Thanx

I'm meeting this problem either...Can't find a way to fix it...

these are cell broadcast messages.
Some networks have them, most don't.
You can switch off receiving these messages via Phone / options / More / Broadcast Channels.
Sometimes when you switch on the phone you might such a message anyway.

@edsub
No,that option has been switched off yet.Thanks anyway.
Hmmm,must be something within the ROM.I just replaced all the shortcut in startup folder,no good.The message is really annoying...

kuangtian said:
@edsub
No,that option has been switched off yet.Thanks anyway.
Hmmm,must be something within the ROM.I just replaced all the shortcut in startup folder,no good.The message is really annoying...
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I have a new Prophet (Jamin) and I'm getting the same annoying message mostly when I do a soft reset. The other day it started giving these stupid messages again and again every few seconds. There were at least 10 network messages in a row. I have gone to phone settings and sent the settings to the network in every category. Now it seems to only happen when I soft reset...sometimes.

I flashed new I-mate ROM.This issue has gone.I've been with Qtek,O2,I-mate and T-Mob.Seems only T-Mob Rom makes this trouble...

sms with delay

Hi there, due to the fact that the search option doesn't work with less then 4 characters, i can't search for "sms".
But here's my real problem:
I've flashed different roms into my mda vario, after unlocking it. First the Molski.biz rom, then the last original t-mobile rom, but it was toooo slow, i've imediatly deleted it, en flashed the mr clean rom.
But in all roms i have some delay in recieving sms-messages.
Half the time they appear directly after they were sent by my friends, but sometimes i get them after a few hours. for example: it was sent at 15:00, and i received it at 17:30.
And sometimes i don't get any sms-messages, and after an soft-reset, i get 10 at one time, all delayed.
does anyone know what to do about it? or what causes it?
Regards,
Twan

i sometimes get this too though not often its usually when my phone loses signal and when it comes back into signal it wont recevie txt messages until i soft reset or send another txt out then ill get like 4 all at once lol.
Wizard isnt the best phone for txtin i must say as i send a good 1,000 txts a month and so far its poor.

Sounds like a network issue to me...
The network isn't registering the phone or something similar. For SMS the towers "push" the messages to the phone. Queuing them when they don't detect the phone on the network. If the phone is on the network and not getting the messages until it is reset and forced to re-acquire its signal than it is a network problem.
I've seen this problem on a few networks regardless of phone make and model.

I would agree with the above, its a provider issue not a phone issue.
I have a debate with Orange about 10 years ago about not getting text messeges when I loose and then regain service. I was told that when a text is sent to a phone that is off or lost a signal the message is stored until a set time has passed and then delivery is retried, thus getting all the messages at once. The way 'around' this is the disconnect the phone from the network and re-connect. This forces a scan of the message queues and again you will get all messages in one go.
I would assume going in to Flight Mode and back will do the same thing as a soft boot, but I have not tested this.

Okay,
so i could suggest it's not quitte an rom- or wizzard-issue, but a network-issue.
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
I'm busy reflashing a new rom into my wizzard.

TwanS said:
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
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I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.

bilbo_28 said:
I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.
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I've tried, but now there's nobody who has sent me an sms
ghehe, i'll wait....
but i do think it will work.
i'll keep you posted

This is happening to me all of a sudden and its not a network issue. I have 4 phones on my account and i texted between all of them and only my phone won't get the messages UNLESS I reboot my phone or use smartskey to close a window.
Here is the strange part, when a text message is sent to my phone, the screen turns on, but doesn't show the message pop.
Is smartskey blocking it?
Also, closing a window by clicking on the X also kicks the message to come through

Mogul Messaging Program Issue

Just got a Mogul a few days ago...the problem is my text messaging program opens up randomly for no reason, when I don't have any new text messages.
It's annoying because it'll awake from sleep mode even though there's nothing to check.
A hard reset didn't take care of this.
Any ideas?

Is the messaging screen that appears the last thing that was on the screen before you shut it off?
It might be turning on because of other reasons, and just happens to always be on the messaging app.

Never thought of that...I'm currently on hold with Spring customer service. Been on hold for about 30 minutes, so I'm guessing it'll be another 3 hours before someone answers.

They said it's not a known problem, so they're just sending me a new one. Gay.

Do you have add the Threaded SMS application to your phone? Because my messaging used to pop up randomly too but after I got rid of the application, it stopped.

Just put your phone upside down next to you while you're sleeping avoids getting woken up when the phone wakes up.
Most cdma windows mobile phones wake up when switching tower too.. So if you're in a fringe area with bad reception, it may frequently wake up when it hops from one tower to the next.-mark

My phone will jump into analog every now and then and the backlight will come on for a few secs when that happens. But my messaging window doesn't pop up. My only problem with that is my texts that come in will not be in order recieved, even when that option is checked.

I am having the exact problem, I am using Shogunmarks threaded SMS program and every few minutes or so the mogul wakes up off batt power and the only app running is messaging. Going to uninstall and try another version.

If you settle on a version you like, let us know. I have uninstalled that one too.

I also have the Shogunmarks threaded SMS program installed. I don't have any problems with it now after running it for a few wks. My texts are in order and my backlight only comes on when it's in and out of analog.

[Q] Wrong time stamp on SMS Messages.

Hi there,
I live in Australia and today daylight savings for us has just started. We were supposed to put the clocks one hour forward and that is exactly what I did. My time is correct everywhere besides incoming sms messages. They are time stamped exactly an hour behind to what the current time is; i.e my old time. This is a huge inconvenience because when I'm having a conversation via sms, I will send a message and it'll be correctly timestamped and then I'll get a message back time stamped an hour behind, so when I'm looking at the sms messages I have to scroll up to read the newest one received.
I am currently on Tom Codons ROM and a I have just installed the "SMS fix" which I knew wouldn't do anything because Tom Codons ROM is based on the newest ROM available. Is there a way to fix this issue?
Any help is appreciated,
Alex

The way i understand it, the received SMS time-stamp is taken from the network system. Not from the phone clock. At least, that's how it works in our country.
Of all the phone i used, including HD mini, they always work that way. Except a couple of generations of Sony Ericsson feature phones, which would base the time-stamp from the phone's clock. (But the network's time-stamp still show up in the details of the sms.)
Maybe the network needs to adjust their system.

Hey there,
Thanks for your quick reply we shall see if the network systems clock has been changed in the upcoming days.
Thanks
Alex

You're welcome.

Hey all,
I have encountered a similar problem. If I receive 2 SMS of the same contact and I reply, if that all happens in the same minute (and it does ), HTC's Message-stuff puts the messages in the wrong order.
For example, I got an SMS and then I got another, then I reply, HTC will put them in this order:
SMS 1
My Reply
SMS 2
Instead of
SMS 1
SMS 2
My reply

That's because your phone time does not match the network time. Maybe off by a few minutes. Your sent message is stamped with phone time, logically. And received message is stamped with network time. So if you're engage in a continuous exchange, each sent and received messages differ by only a few seconds or minutes, then this kind of incorrect order happens.
Try to sync your phone time with internet time. This will lessen the chances of wrong order. But you can't totally eliminate it 100%. Unless the conversation exchanges happen very slowly (for example, one or both of your compose text slowly), with several minutes gap between each text.

bart3385 said:
That's because your phone time does not match the network time. Maybe off by a few minutes. Your sent message is stamped with phone time, logically. And received message is stamped with network time. So if you're engage in a continuous exchange, each sent and received messages differ by only a few seconds or minutes, then this kind of incorrect order happens.
Try to sync your phone time with internet time. This will lessen the chances of wrong order. But you can't totally eliminate it 100%. Unless the conversation exchanges happen very slowly (for example, one or both of your compose text slowly), with several minutes gap between each text.
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Thanks for the explanation! I thought it was a bug

You're welcome.

Hey there,
Just wanted to confirm that my problem has been fixed. The network finally decided to change its time, resulting in the received messages to be time-stamped correctly.
Thanks bart for clearing up what was causing it. (I was tempted to hard reset lol...)
Alex

alex2g said:
Hey there,
Just wanted to confirm that my problem has been fixed. The network finally decided to change its time, resulting in the received messages to be time-stamped correctly.
Thanks bart for clearing up what was causing it. (I was tempted to hard reset lol...)
Alex
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Wow, great! I like how your network respond to customers. Big company responding to individual users. Very good. Total opposite of HTC tech support.