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sms with delay

Hi there, due to the fact that the search option doesn't work with less then 4 characters, i can't search for "sms".
But here's my real problem:
I've flashed different roms into my mda vario, after unlocking it. First the Molski.biz rom, then the last original t-mobile rom, but it was toooo slow, i've imediatly deleted it, en flashed the mr clean rom.
But in all roms i have some delay in recieving sms-messages.
Half the time they appear directly after they were sent by my friends, but sometimes i get them after a few hours. for example: it was sent at 15:00, and i received it at 17:30.
And sometimes i don't get any sms-messages, and after an soft-reset, i get 10 at one time, all delayed.
does anyone know what to do about it? or what causes it?
Regards,
Twan

i sometimes get this too though not often its usually when my phone loses signal and when it comes back into signal it wont recevie txt messages until i soft reset or send another txt out then ill get like 4 all at once lol.
Wizard isnt the best phone for txtin i must say as i send a good 1,000 txts a month and so far its poor.

Sounds like a network issue to me...
The network isn't registering the phone or something similar. For SMS the towers "push" the messages to the phone. Queuing them when they don't detect the phone on the network. If the phone is on the network and not getting the messages until it is reset and forced to re-acquire its signal than it is a network problem.
I've seen this problem on a few networks regardless of phone make and model.

I would agree with the above, its a provider issue not a phone issue.
I have a debate with Orange about 10 years ago about not getting text messeges when I loose and then regain service. I was told that when a text is sent to a phone that is off or lost a signal the message is stored until a set time has passed and then delivery is retried, thus getting all the messages at once. The way 'around' this is the disconnect the phone from the network and re-connect. This forces a scan of the message queues and again you will get all messages in one go.
I would assume going in to Flight Mode and back will do the same thing as a soft boot, but I have not tested this.

Okay,
so i could suggest it's not quitte an rom- or wizzard-issue, but a network-issue.
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
I'm busy reflashing a new rom into my wizzard.

TwanS said:
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
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I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.

bilbo_28 said:
I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.
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I've tried, but now there's nobody who has sent me an sms
ghehe, i'll wait....
but i do think it will work.
i'll keep you posted

This is happening to me all of a sudden and its not a network issue. I have 4 phones on my account and i texted between all of them and only my phone won't get the messages UNLESS I reboot my phone or use smartskey to close a window.
Here is the strange part, when a text message is sent to my phone, the screen turns on, but doesn't show the message pop.
Is smartskey blocking it?
Also, closing a window by clicking on the X also kicks the message to come through

Text Messaging & Wrong Time

I have an odd issue with my Wizard. All text messages I receive show an hour behind the current time, however everything I send out shows the correct hour. I've adjusted the time zone to other things and then set it back to what it should be, GMT -5, and I'm still having the issue. Any ideas?

I'm not one to bump topics normally but I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. Anyone?

Perhaps the person who sends SMS messages to you has his device set to another timezone, or has summertime set incorrectly?
I noticed my Wizard uses as time "received" the local time of the sender. Kinda odd because that means that a string of SMS messages sent back and forth between 2 users in a different time zone will not be listed in sequence when sorted on time.
I dont know how to change this behavior.

It happens for everyone, regardless of time zone and phone settings. Still searching for an answer...

Maybe it's not the wizard's problem and that of the text message center?

i'm having this same issue on my tmobile wing. anyone ever figure this out? it's not a big deal... just really annoying.

HTC Magic (and HTC Dream) on Rogers - Text / SMS Timestamp issue?

Hi All,
Anyone on Rogers having issues with text message timestamps being off by a few hours?
I'm in Regina and any received SMS messages are two hours ahead of my local time. Changing from automatic network time to manual time has no effect.
It looks like text messages are being sent out with Toronto local time, no matter what the receiver's location is.
It appears that this is happening to a number of users, but Rogers support is useless - suggesting hard resets and returning the 'defective' device, which of course have no effect.
See: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
So anyone else that is having this problem, sound off - call tech support, reply to this and the above link, and hopefully Rogers will get this fixed sooner rather than later.

Hey Skawty, I'm in Regina too!! How you liking the phone? I just picked mine up on Wednesday and loving it. Anyways back to your point, I don't think it is possible to have a correct time on SMS, I haven't had any correct timestamps on any of my phones with Rogers, so we may be SOL on this part.

in edmonton here with the same issue. picked mine up today.
I don't know if the timestamps were off on my old krzr, they could have been and i would not have noticed. However with the threading by timestamp on this phone it really makes it annoying. There had better be a fix for this soon.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/sms-timestamp-incorrect-5067/
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
Looks like a lot of people complaining. I'd think they'll fix it soon.

this helps for now... kind of
http://androidforums.com/updates-cu...sms-issue-received-time-stamp-locked-est.html
WORKAROUND (sort-of) i’ve been using chompsms instead of the the messaging program, and it seems to thread everything correctly. chomp for whatever reason puts your time stamp on the same time zone as the received, so if you are replying to a received text with EST time stamp, chomp makes yours EST as well.
works for sending too… the initial msg you send will show your proper time, the reply will in est, then when you reply it will be in eastern, threading properly. rogers still needs to fix this though!

Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.

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Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.
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Confirmed. I am using a t-mobile G1 with a Rogers Rom and live in EST. All my received texts are stamped with toronto time

I am running the rammjet rom built off the rogers and have the very same issue.
Though it seems sometimes if i have it open and am texting back and forth to the same person it will work properly.

Doesn’t matter what rom or software you are using on phone. This is a Rogers issue at the network level. They are the ones that stamp message.
They are aware of issue, but it seems very low on priorities to them. Guess they don’t understand sms is not just for teens to giggle these days. Its important for business and as far as I am concerned, a big deal
I have contacted them several times and get one of the two:
“No idea what you are talking about” << Love these replies from any service call
Or
“We are aware of the issue and are working on it” << No time frame given, so really as pointless as above
In any case. Don’t be running around looking for an in-phone fix because you haven’t done anything to mess with the time stamp. Doesn’t matter what you use for sms or what os you have on phone
Chomp helps by keeping things in order, but doesn’t fix timestamp. Rogers has to do this. Will they and when????? Who knows?

G1 Dream
I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
Good Luck

Good day, I recently purchased the HTC Touch Pro 2...great phone by the way. I also am experiencing sms message time stamp errors and I have tried everything...do you have any suggestions?

terrancextc said:
I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
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What settings did you change? I'd like to try this.

I know that it isnt a fix, but what i did was adjust the timezone to gmt -2(4 hour offset in regina) then manually entered a time, so now my messages are in the correct order. the only problem with this was that now all the events in my calendar where 4 hour out. so i went in and changed the timezone in my calendar to match the timezone on my phone, and moved all my events up 4 hours.
I know its not a fix, but until rogers does something about this it will work

There's an app on the market called SmsFixTimes that I wrote to help with this problem, until Rogers or HTC fixes the firmware. This is just a regular app, no hacks or anything else required. You should be aware, though, that it has only been tested by me so far, so it is at least possible that it could change the timestamps to something completely unexpected... you've been warned.
The app listens for incoming SMS messages and adjusts the timestamp to your phone's configured time zone automatically. The notification in the top bar is still wrong, but when you click on the message it will have the right time. If you run the app from the main app list, it will also go back and fix all of your saved messages (but only do that once! And maybe wait for an incoming message first, to see what happens!).
Since this is just a regular app, if you want it to stop you simply have to uninstall it from your phone. Comments and suggestions are welcome.

Hey natmanz, I've been checking on the Market since your post, and still no sign of SmsFixTimes. Is it just me, or has it not shown up yet?
[Edit: It finally showed up.]

Fix coming mid-august
I just spoke with a Rogers rep who told me that HTC are currently working on a patch that should be ready mid-August. Until then there's nothing that can be done aside from changing the time on your phone or using chompSMS as an alternative

Its fine for a while, up until you go past a few hundred messages in the thread. IE its me and my friend firing off during summer classes, and while its my solid wall of sent sms, and then his wall of sms, after a certain point it becomes 5 of mine, one of his, then none of mine for the next 50 in the thread. Annoying.
...Rogers. Bane of my existance. Bold works fine, iPhone works fine, maybe this is a sign that Rogers isn't giving enough of a ****? Because if it was a berry or iphone theyd be all over it. thank god bell/telus are going gsm, I can take my nice phones and business elsewhere, and fyi cant speak for telus but bells service on my omnia, rocks.

Text message thread issue

Hey guys,
I just recently bought my TD2 just over the weekend...and when receiving text msgs from my friends, there's this 4 hour difference in the time stamp. For example, I'll send a text msg at 10pm, and when I receive a text msg five minutes later, the time stamp will be 6:05pm.
Would anyone know what the issue would be? Cause I'm really stumped by this. I even sent text msgs to myself from my phone carrier's website and it's the same thing, the time stamp is 4 hours behind what it actually is..
Any suggestions or ideas is greatly appreciated. =)

I'm fairly sure the time stamp for incoming text messages is dependent on the time your service provider says it was sent, not the time your phone actually receives it. So if your network provider is based in a city with a different time zone your incoming text messages will be time stamped at the time the message was sent in said time zone, not your own.
I'm not sure if there are any settings to change this as I haven't really looked in to it a great deal. It's just kind of annoying and can make conversation threads kind of pointless.

my network provider is based in the same city as me, so there shouldn't be any discrepancy in terms of time zone.
I'm starting to think it's a WM6.1 bug or something like that. I've tried hard resetting it but it doesn't work. I've also tried putting in a different sim card from a different network provider and the issue is still there.
so..im stumped even more...

you could send a notification to HTC. I've been reading these forums for some time now and I haven't encountered anyone with the same problem. Or, then again, I might be mistaken ...

4 hours does seem a bit extreme. Do you have any friends on the same network as you? Can you check the time stamp on a message that you've sent to their phone to see if it shows the correct time?
I only say it's network dependent because I know that when my country has daylight savings time the timestamps for all of my messages get messed up, but when daylight savings time is over it's fine.

It depends on the service provider.
Some service provider use the time the msg is pushed to your phone, while others use the time when the message is sent. So, if your sender is in a different time zone, there may be a time difference.

I've checked with friends that are on the same service provider. The text msgs i send them have the correct time.
I even send myself a text msg to see and it'll be the same thing again. sending it to myself is just as mind boggling cause i receive my own msg right away, and time stamp is 4 hours behind still. -_-;;;

Did u set any "Visiting Time"? I never encountered this since I bought my TD2 last month. Guess it could be related to service provider?

Landice said:
Did u set any "Visiting Time"? I never encountered this since I bought my TD2 last month. Guess it could be related to service provider?
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No, I believe you can only set either Home or Visiting Time...
I flashed my phone with cooked roms hoping that bring it to WM6.5 would fixed the issue, but it hasn't worked...

Is your problem solved yet? I've the same problem and I've done everything nothing works, I guess i've to live with it. Mine shows 40 mins difference which is very annoying.

no luck at all.
I just played around with the time zone settings. i just put the time zone setting to est-1 since it's est -5 where i am. and then i just brought the time back 4 hours and it matched...but aside from that..nope..nothing.

Text messages are coming in at wrong time

I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!

same here ...

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I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!
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Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.

Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!

padlad said:
Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!
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Urgh, I reckon I'm gonna do an exchange in the 28 day period when we get them back in stock and see if that sorts all, or at least most, the problems out, just having a new phone from new batch.

i had this problem.... tooo
it really terrbile as i wont able to know which is my sms with his reply

Ive got this too, i'm on O2 UK and messages i receive are all 2-3 minutes too early and so put the text conversation out of sync.

This has happened a couple of times to me, but usually leaving the SMS app and then going back in fixes it.
Either that or the person who you're texting has the time wrong on their phone.

ya they maybe set wrong timing.. but is petty hard to find ppl who had the time timing as ur hahah
so the sms should be basic on our clock

i used to have screwed up SMS conversations too. you guys can try installing the SMS fix. it is working for me for now.

SMS fix from where??

from HTC.com

i installed but it doesnt not fix for me

Any chance there's a daylight savings time mix up?

no... my time was setting correctly..
there is only one clock setting how can it mix up??
somemore is from same zone..

no fix for this?

I have had this problem too.
Try setting your clock right...
You can do something like: when receiving a message check its time and change yours to match that one...
It should solve the problem.

i just got the tmo us hd2 and it seems only after midnight some peoples texts start coming in a day previously. i just had 3 conversations and one person came at the right time, and the other 2 came as if they were 24 hours behind

I've had the same problem recently, I just assumed it was an O2UK problem, I had it very occasionally with my Diamond.
It's fine at the moment, so I just put it down to peak text time. Lol.
*edit* HA! I just got a text as a was writing this post, it's now 10:15am and the text is time stamped 08:53am, I should have touched wood!

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Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.
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Sorry but htis has nothing to do with the phone.
Im on O2 germany and everything works fine.
Maybe your setup was wrong or your provider has an issue.
SMS faults are mainly providerissues.
I dont know which rom you are using but i dont have any issue with the updated stock rom.