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So, as Froyo is slowly becoming the standard around here, I thought I would post a few workarounds for some of the problems that people are having with Froyo and the wide selections of Froyo ROMS to choose from. I put this list together, as these problems I see coming up in many of the Froyo ROM threads.
So, I ll start with a few of the most common ones, and will add to this list later.
Issue -My apps are appearing twice in the ADW apps launcher after moving them to the SD card! (Froyo apps2sd)
Workaround-It seems almost everytime I reboot the phone that Im getting the apps appearing twice. If you uninstall ADW, and then reinstall it, then it stops. So what I ve done for the time being is to install ADW new, get all the widgets and apps you want on the home screen, and then go into the restore and backup settings in ADW launcher. Make a backup of your ADW settings and of your homescreens and save those to your sd card (it does this automatically). Then, the next time you need to reboot your phone and you see double apps coming up, just go into ADW settings and "Restore" your settings for the launcher and homescreens. Then the double apps go away, your settings are retained, and your apps and widgets are back on your homescreen.
If your using the same apps and widgets all the time, its probably a good idea to do a Nandroid after you ve done this, and to save the 2 ADW save files stored on your sd card just in case you ever want to quickly restore your settings again.
Issue- Froyo apps2sd is rubbish! I only have 40mb left on internal storage! I want the old apps2sd back!!
Workaround- First off, I have to admit that at first I didn’t like the new Froyo apps2sd. But actually now, I like it more, due to the fact that you don’t need an EXT or swap (meaning MORE SPEED), AND coupled with the fact theres a very easy way to get FOUR TIMES MORE STORAGE than the 40mb (estimate for 115 apps) that you have left. The solution? Easy..all you have to do is go into your ROMS settings, and “move dalvik to cache”. To put it simply, I have 117 apps installed on my phone. After I moved them all to the sd card, I had 40mb left. I then went into the spare parts on Emonthers ROM, and enabled “dalvik on cache”. I then rebooted, and VOILA…137mb free internal space.
I cant confirm that all ROMS have this option, but if your ROM does have it, it’s the way to go. From what I ve read (please correct me if im wrong), this space is allocated mostly for OTA updates. As most of us here have root, why not use that space to free up some internal memory! After doing this, my phone is running VERY fast and smooth.
Issue- My phone keeps rebooting at the load screen! HELP!!
Workaround -This commonly occurs if you didn’t wipe properly when coming from another ROM. If this is happening to you, you ll need to:
Pull your battery to get the loops to stop
Reboot into recovery
Do a full wipe, then if you have an ext partition wipe that. Also wipe cache and dalvik settings. This is very important. Then flash your ROM. Your Bootloops should then stop. And remember, if your partioning your card, remember to REPAIR EXT PARTITIONS. This is VERY important and will save you lots of grief.
Issue- When I record video my phone reboots! HELP!
Workaround- This means you haven’t installed the Froyo radio. You ll need to be sure you have either flashed the zip version of the Froyo radio or installed the image (Cyan says installing the image is safer. Im sure hes probably right, but I can confirm I have flashed the zip version of the radio and it works fine).
Issue-I don’t know which apps to install to the sd card and which I should leave on the phone! AAARRGGHH!
Workaround- From what I have read, what you ll want to leave on the phone are:
Widgets, apps that have widgets that you use, keyboards, and system apps. I also keep my sms app on the phone, although Im sure it will work fine on the SD card.
Issue- I just flashed a new ROM, and now the app launcher is all slow! Whats up with that??
Workaround- This is most likely because your apps are being automatically redownloaded and installed. This is a feature of Android that was added to Eclaire that allows Google (with your permission) to backup your settings (apps, wifi key, ect). Give the phone a minute and you ll see in your app launcher that your apps are being added automatically! When its done, you ll get a notification that says “ “X” number of apps reinstalled. Saves you time and work, and now your launcher will stop lagging.
Issue- There are so many Froyo ROMS! Which one is the best one!??!
Workaround- This is like asking if basketball is cooler than football. In short: it’s a matter of opinion. I can however share my findings so far.
Cyan6- We all know the quality of Cyan and TeamDouches work. When there ROMS go stable, they..well…they JUST WORK GREAT. Cyans ROMS are always very detailed and COMPLETE (trackball lights, wallpapers, advanced options) Right now, for me the ROM is still very buggy, so I would give it the number 3 spot.
RoDrIgUeZsTyLe- If you like overclocking and speed, this ROM is a winner! His ROMS have a lot of kernel options and overclocking enhancements, and are fairly stable. Very recommended.
Enomther- At this very moment, this ROM takes the cake and is easily my number 1 pick. Stable, fast, TONS of enhanced features and extra settings, and I can honestly say I haven’t had one FC yet. I can understand why hes one of the top dogs here. His newest ROM has been an AWESOME Froyo experience for me, and I ll be sticking with him until Cyan goes stable.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER FROYO ROMS. THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT I HAD THE BEST EXPERIENCES WITH. YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MAY VARY!! THE DEVS HERE ALL DO GREAT WORK, AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS SAYING THAT ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER!
Anyway, that’s all I have for now. I hope this helps out, and I ll be adding to this thread as more common problems come to me. I hope it helps someone out, and I really hope it saves our awesome devs some time from answering questions. After all, it takes time creating all the awesomeness that they bring!
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great job dude thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?
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How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Ok, that's a new one for me. So you can download the app, but can't install it? Are you having his problem on wifi and 3g?
EDIT- have a look on your SD card.is there a folder called " android secure"?
Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?
PhantomRampage said:
Just checked and yeah there is, it's hidden though (.android_secure)
Is this what's giving me trouble?
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Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.
thank you for the information. I would suggest that you try Leo Froyo. Very stable and full of options.
PhantomRampage said:
How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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i have the same problem... even if i delete che android_secure folder
*delete*
wrong post. Sorry.
Dai323 said:
Quite possibly yes. Try deleting that folder, rebooting, and then try to install. Make sure the folder doesnt reappear after reboot. If it does, try just deleting it and then downloading and installing an app.
Also, be sure to let me know if it works, so that I can add it to the thread.
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no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....
flybyme said:
no the .android_secure folder is where apps2sd for froyo go....
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Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.
Download this file here and make sure it doesn't have .txt as file ext, but .xml instead. Rename if necessary.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6602402&postcount=8
Then follow this instruction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7046487&postcount=29
If it doesn't work, you most likely don't have the shared_prefs folder. So just create one.
Hope it helps. Good luck.
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How about the market not installing apps? I keep trying with CMRC1 and it downloads the app just fine but stalls on the installation
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Dai323 said:
Are u using the old apps2sd or the new? I read in another thread that deleting this folder was allowing some to download apps after deleting it. I personally haven't had his problem, but ill search around to see if I can find a workaround.
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apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol
flybyme said:
apps2sd for froyo as in the built in implementation of apps2sd native to it. its not apps2ext
hook up the sd to your pc and have a look inside youll see your apps lol
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LOL. Yes, I know what the new Froyo apps to sd is I asked because in many of the Froyo ROMS you have the possibility to choose between the new implemented from Google apps2sd or the old style apps2sd that we seen in builds prior to Froyo.
Have you given rjhay22's suggestion a try? Please let me know if it fixes so that I can get it added to the original post.
Moved too general area
Love the concept of this thread
Mikey1022 said:
Moved too general area
Love the concept of this thread
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Thanks Im just hoping we can save the devs some time. I ll keep adding to it the more and more we find solutions.
Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.
khaytsus said:
Never seen any of these problems... Apps2SD is okay, just more apps need to support it.. I have 4-5 5M+ apps which don't, and it'd help a lot if they did. I'm sitting around 30M free after clearing browser cache with a ton of apps installed on my stock OTA.
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well if you have the mod install location app you can force the option to allow apps to be moved to SD
@Dai323
haha sorry i was using froyo apps to sd. I dont think it makes any difference whether that folder is there or not unless something is entirely screwed up with a rom flash.
ive read that the solution rjahays solution will work for enomthers for sure as well as modacos rom
Official Froyo-how to install all the apps to SD instead of using the app2sd?
wildfire internal memory is limited and not all the apps can move to SD for FROYO.
so is that any way to install all the apps to SD ?
Not as far as I know. It requires a custom recovery to be installed, which requires root. There are a few apps in the market though (like Apps 2 SD) which claim to do this, but, I have no idea how they go about it.
Can someone advise how to install directly to sd please? I'm facing the same thing.
any solution?
Directly install apps to SD card.
http://nmobilephones.com/applicatio...tall-applications-to-the-sd-card-by-default-2
Original question of "moving all apps to SD" is impossible now as apps with widgets have to be in Internal Memory.
Unless a dev is able to fool the phone into thinking SD card is internal memory nothing is possible. Unfortunately what devs do these days "make themes". Dailies and Nightlies.
bynge said:
Directly install apps to SD card.
http://nmobilephones.com/applicatio...tall-applications-to-the-sd-card-by-default-2
Original question of "moving all apps to SD" is impossible now as apps with widgets have to be in Internal Memory.
Unless a dev is able to fool the phone into thinking SD card is internal memory nothing is possible. Unfortunately what devs do these days "make themes". Dailies and Nightlies.
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Sorry for making the wrong post. Actually, with the above process, it is possible even to install/move the unsupported apps to sdcard on unrootable wildfire with official froyo (hboot 1.01 + S-ON).
This works without root:
1. Enable debugging on your phone (Settings->Applications->Development->USB Debugging)
2. Connect phone i PC
3. Open Command Prompt (on PC Start->Run type cmd and than Enter)
4. In Command Prompt type: adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
5. Enter
Thats it!
If you want it back, just type:
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0 instead of step 4.
Works on my NON ROOTED Wildfire wih FroYo!
This will enable you to move all apps (even with gadgets, but than you cant use gadgets) to SD, and also it will install all future apps directly to SD.
Oops, my mistake. The process works great. Even the unsupported apps can be moved/installed to sdcard directly . @ilDuceo thanks a lot for the correction. So, this was there right from the beginning, when wildfire got updated to official froyo. Missed this all these days.
SOME INFO HERE.
Make sure that there are no pc/phone apps which use the usb debugging while doing this process (eg: pdanet). After navigating to the "platform-tools" folder (latest android sdk version), then input the following adb commands (in bold here) of ur choice. Press enter after every command.
--First confirm the connection of adb device with the command adb devices
--This command sets the install location to automatic to be chosen by the app adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0
--This command sets the install location to phone adb shell pm setInstallLocation 1 (but try not to use this, instead use the automatic command)
--This command sets the install location to memory card adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
NOTE: I have found almost every third party app moved except the present version of "Double Twist Player" (version 1.4.2).
So this will move all future installed apps to the SD? What if I install an app with Widgets? Would I need to reverse the process?
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nicky041192 said:
So this will move all future installed apps to the SD? What if I install an app with Widgets? Would I need to reverse the process?
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Once u done that process, almost all the past 3rd party apps will show an option to be moved to sdcard. And the future apps will be directly installed to sdcard (no need of moving).
Regarding apps with widgets, i have checked one app "Power AMP Music Player". It will be installed to the memory card and its widget worked fine for me. Havent checked other apps. Make a try.
And i have also freshly installed "Launcher Pro". It will be installed in phone memory only and it doesn't support moving to sdcard. So, i think we donot need to reverse the process in any case, as it wont support moving to memory card in conflicting cases.
[NOTE: I think some apps with native support of apps2sd will be installed to phone memory, and we will have to move them manually. If it is so, then do a batch movement at once.]
@bharatgaddameedi: yeah, almost all i need from root! except of custom ROM of course... but, this is just fine until root.
have a nice day
yes. Its fine untill root. Now I can have almost unlimited apps on my phone. Never expected this would be possible without root. Day by day, I'm getting a bit more satisfied with my phone. And it will be great if we can access root-only apps soon.
have a nice day.
hi i cant get it working. they say adb is not recognised. can i have the full steps? thanks!
eikcihc said:
hi i cant get it working. they say adb is not recognised. can i have the full steps? thanks!
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That is not an issue with the actual process.
U must know how to use adb (and how to use command prompt also) to go with the process. And also, have u installed the android usb driver.
The easiest way to install android usb driver is just install "HTC SYNC" if u donot want to go with a long process. However the driver will also be a part of other softwares like htc usb driver, pdanet (pc version) ......
hope it helped.
eikcihc said:
hi i cant get it working. they say adb is not recognised. can i have the full steps? thanks!
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here you go...
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-adb-and-how-to-install-it-android/
hello,if make hard resset to wildfire will comeback to original status
thankyou
titillo said:
hello,if make hard resset to wildfire will comeback to original status
thankyou
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dunno, iv never tried.
titillo said:
hello,if make hard resset to wildfire will comeback to original status
thankyou
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Yes it will come back to the original status on making hard reset. We cant expect that to retain even after hard reset. But we dont need to make hard reset just for coming back to the original status. We can use the command adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0 . But before doing that we need to move all the unsupported apps to the phone memory. I think they will not be usable unless we move them.
app to instal on phone to do it automatic
any chance that somebody make an app to do this automatic from phone
than you
titillo said:
any chance that somebody make an app to do this automatic from phone
than you
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Yes that would be nice. I also thought that. That eliminates pc connection everytime we want it.
But I think it is not yet done. There are Android terminal emulator apps. I tried in those apps the commands "pm setInstallLocation 2". But it was unsuccessful. I think adb was necessary for doing that. Hope they will be done.
(and remember the letters in those commands are case sensitive. There are only 2 capital letters in that).
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Hello,
So I'm about to take the plunge and pick up an Xperia Play in the next few days. With it I'm planning on getting a 32GB microSD (class 4) card. What I'm concerned about though is whether I can fully utilise the card.
What I mean is, is that I've read that some apps can not be directly installed onto the SD card, forcing you to first install them onto the pitifully small internal storage before moving them over to the card. Other apps can not be moved to the SD card AT ALL, creating situations where you may actually run out of internal space and not even have enough to apply phone/OS updates. This has me slightly worried. What's the point in buying a nice big SD card if I can't fully utilise it?
Now, I know things are possible if you root the phone, but I'm not interested in doing that (I know, call me weird if you want, but I have no interest in rooting the phone when I get it). What I want to know is, can I do the following things without rooting the phone?
- Move certain apps/games to the SD card (I realise some vital apps can't be moved for technical reasons)
- Force the phone to install new apps/games directly onto the SD card
Thanks in advance for your time!
firstly, this is Gingerbread, and with Gingerbread means we are given the full authority to install apps on the phone or on the SD card. The problem comes from developers themselves. Whether an app is installed in the internal memory or the SD card is solely determined by the developer because of a string/command they have to put on their application's manifest files. that string gives us the option, so if they have not included that string on their apk's (like Asphalt 6 for example with a size of 29MB!!!), we will have no choice to select where to install it--with a default location on the internal memory!
This one is a good read on what i'm trying to say:
http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card/
there is a hack however, something like pm SetInstallLocation 2 through adb, it's somewhere here.. something like THIS it changes/forces the install location to SD card..
Use link2sd. I have 370 apps installed and still have 239mb of internal storage
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Except link2sd requires root access...
So there's basically nothing I can do about this without rooting the phone or fiddling with the adb? That if the app or game doesn't provide the option or where to install, I'm stuck?
Balls.
There must be a solution...how are you guys not running out of space on this thing?
most, if not all of us have rooted our phone.
White_Pointer said:
So there's basically nothing I can do about this without rooting the phone or fiddling with the adb? That if the app or game doesn't provide the option or where to install, I'm stuck?
Balls.
There must be a solution...how are you guys not running out of space on this thing?
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The facts are, without root access you don't have enough control over your phone to do it. And if you don't want to use adb, you might as well sell your play and buy a feature phone, because thats all you have atm lol
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Create a partition of your SD card then use link2sd.. For now maybe you don't have interest on rooting your phone but after a few days you will realize how important for us to have root access..
I thought the whole point of Android (as opposed to, say, iOS) is to give the user control. If I can't do something as simple as moving apps to an sd card without rooting the phone, it seems Android has failed in that regard. Even my 2 year old Omnia 2, running the dated Windows mobile 6.1 OS, allows me to choose where to install things and allows me full access to the file manager to move data where I want without ever needing to root it.
I'll probably still get a Play, and maybe adb is an option, but it still seems an annoyance to enable the option which should be there already.
White_Pointer said:
I thought the whole point of Android (as opposed to, say, iOS) is to give the user control. If I can't do something as simple as moving apps to an sd card without rooting the phone, it seems Android has failed in that regard. Even my 2 year old Omnia 2, running the dated Windows mobile 6.1 OS, allows me to choose where to install things and allows me full access to the file manager to move data where I want without ever needing to root it.
I'll probably still get a Play, and maybe adb is an option, but it still seems an annoyance to enable the option which should be there already.
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Your missing the point, root isnt a bad thing or a hack, google always ment to supply android rooted like any linux distro. But they took root away from the end user to protect them. Malware wise a unrooted phone is a safe phone. It's then the end users problem if they root there phone and have all there passwords stolen. There is no comeback on google. The nexus phones are easy to root because google makes it easy, phones made by companies like HTC are harder to root because they want to protect there software. Although HTC and Sony have made a U-turn recently, allowing for end users to now bootloader unlock there phones and even supporting 3rd party rom developers.
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Unfortunately rooting a phone isn't quite as simple as logging in as the root user in linux. If you could "log in" to your phone as root to perform certain actions such as moving apps to an sd card, and then "log out" when you are done, back into your regular phone user mode, then it would be a different story. As it stands now, you get one thing wrong in the root process and you could lose vital functionality, or in the worst case can brick your phone.
I don't call that "protecting the end user", I personally think that whole concept is a load of bull. If they wanted to really protect the end user they'd make it easy to log in as root, but require the user to contact support for the password or something and get them to accept a T&A first so they understand the implications of it. That way the phone doesn't permanently stay in "rooted" mode, and you only need the root access temporarily so your chances of contracting any Malware are slim.
Doesn't that make a lot more sense?
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firstly, this is Gingerbread, and with Gingerbread means we are given the full authority to install apps on the phone or on the SD card. The problem comes from developers themselves. Whether an app is installed in the internal memory or the SD card is solely determined by the developer because of a string/command they have to put on their application's manifest files. that string gives us the option, so if they have not included that string on their apk's (like Asphalt 6 for example with a size of 29MB!!!), we will have no choice to select where to install it--with a default location on the internal memory!
This one is a good read on what i'm trying to say:
http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card/
there is a hack however, something like pm SetInstallLocation 2 through adb, it's somewhere here.. something like THIS it changes/forces the install location to SD card..
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Here's the ADB Hack:
Install Android SDK, download the recommened files.
Open up command prompt (if you're in windows) goto adb, its located [drive installed on, normally C]:\[wherever you installed it, i.e. program files, or if you unzipped it, unzip folder]\android-sdk_r12-windows\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools (where you have it installed might differ from mine. If you don't have the android sdk library, this makes it worth it.)
when you get to the folder you have adb located, and your phone is plugged in (USB Debuging needs to be turned on (settings -> application -> development)),
type:
adb shell
(you'll have to wait a little bit)
when you see the command prompt change to "#"
then type:
pm setInstallLocation 2
reboot
you don't need root, and it's easy to do
Hi all!
I'd like to ask the question in my title: Is there a way i can remove a system app (for example SIM toolkit) without rooting?
I was thinking if i can somehow use ADB with root privileges and remove system apps through recovery or fastboot!
Thanks in advance!
You would have to do it with root and then remove root again - kinda pointless tbh
you can go to settings, appd, all.. pick the system app that you want, then press disable. but you cant remove them without root.
simms22 said:
you can go to settings, appd, all.. pick the system app that you want, then press disable. but you cant remove them without root.
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Tbh this is what i'm doing for all apps that i dont want.
The one that really gets on my nerves (and is the reason for this thread) is sim toolkit which can not be disabled this way!
Just a quick question: why do you want to remove the apps? If it's just because they clutter up your app drawer, or something like that, wouldn't it be easier to simply install a launcher and hide the apps?
That's the method I use. If I can't see them, then they don't really bother me.
Ruxin said:
Just a quick question: why do you want to remove the apps? If it's just because they clutter up your app drawer, or something like that, wouldn't it be easier to simply install a launcher and hide the apps?
That's the method I use. If I can't see them, then they don't really bother me.
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sometimes(not always), just because you dont see them doesnt mean that they arent draining your battery or using your ram. at least facebook isnt a system app on a nexus :silly:
Pretty sure you cant get rid of sim toolkit, it will just get installed again, I think its coming from the sim card.
Use twrp file manager and delete stuff in the system/app/ folder.
Sim toolkit is not a drain. I'm not sure why you want to remove apps or why you don't want to root. Messing with /system can prevent you from being able to use ota update.
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I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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kevp75 said:
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
megamanDJ said:
As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
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yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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kevp75 said:
yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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kevp75 said:
lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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kevp75 said:
yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
kevp75 said:
I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
kevp75 said:
Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
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So, I ended going back to stock. re-rooted, the whole nine. Installed the Launcher... guess what... missing shortcuts, so it's definately not AT doing it
Hey man, thanks a ton for the help here... for some reason my XDA app isn't working so great, so I can't thank you enough
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Yeah, tried the restore of all thos.
on NB1... sort of I did the Deadly Venom 3.0 SafeStrap =) Anyways, I'm backup and running after a reflash... no biggee, didn';t take all that long to do LOL