Hello,
So I'm about to take the plunge and pick up an Xperia Play in the next few days. With it I'm planning on getting a 32GB microSD (class 4) card. What I'm concerned about though is whether I can fully utilise the card.
What I mean is, is that I've read that some apps can not be directly installed onto the SD card, forcing you to first install them onto the pitifully small internal storage before moving them over to the card. Other apps can not be moved to the SD card AT ALL, creating situations where you may actually run out of internal space and not even have enough to apply phone/OS updates. This has me slightly worried. What's the point in buying a nice big SD card if I can't fully utilise it?
Now, I know things are possible if you root the phone, but I'm not interested in doing that (I know, call me weird if you want, but I have no interest in rooting the phone when I get it). What I want to know is, can I do the following things without rooting the phone?
- Move certain apps/games to the SD card (I realise some vital apps can't be moved for technical reasons)
- Force the phone to install new apps/games directly onto the SD card
Thanks in advance for your time!
firstly, this is Gingerbread, and with Gingerbread means we are given the full authority to install apps on the phone or on the SD card. The problem comes from developers themselves. Whether an app is installed in the internal memory or the SD card is solely determined by the developer because of a string/command they have to put on their application's manifest files. that string gives us the option, so if they have not included that string on their apk's (like Asphalt 6 for example with a size of 29MB!!!), we will have no choice to select where to install it--with a default location on the internal memory!
This one is a good read on what i'm trying to say:
http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card/
there is a hack however, something like pm SetInstallLocation 2 through adb, it's somewhere here.. something like THIS it changes/forces the install location to SD card..
Use link2sd. I have 370 apps installed and still have 239mb of internal storage
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Except link2sd requires root access...
So there's basically nothing I can do about this without rooting the phone or fiddling with the adb? That if the app or game doesn't provide the option or where to install, I'm stuck?
Balls.
There must be a solution...how are you guys not running out of space on this thing?
most, if not all of us have rooted our phone.
White_Pointer said:
So there's basically nothing I can do about this without rooting the phone or fiddling with the adb? That if the app or game doesn't provide the option or where to install, I'm stuck?
Balls.
There must be a solution...how are you guys not running out of space on this thing?
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The facts are, without root access you don't have enough control over your phone to do it. And if you don't want to use adb, you might as well sell your play and buy a feature phone, because thats all you have atm lol
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Create a partition of your SD card then use link2sd.. For now maybe you don't have interest on rooting your phone but after a few days you will realize how important for us to have root access..
I thought the whole point of Android (as opposed to, say, iOS) is to give the user control. If I can't do something as simple as moving apps to an sd card without rooting the phone, it seems Android has failed in that regard. Even my 2 year old Omnia 2, running the dated Windows mobile 6.1 OS, allows me to choose where to install things and allows me full access to the file manager to move data where I want without ever needing to root it.
I'll probably still get a Play, and maybe adb is an option, but it still seems an annoyance to enable the option which should be there already.
White_Pointer said:
I thought the whole point of Android (as opposed to, say, iOS) is to give the user control. If I can't do something as simple as moving apps to an sd card without rooting the phone, it seems Android has failed in that regard. Even my 2 year old Omnia 2, running the dated Windows mobile 6.1 OS, allows me to choose where to install things and allows me full access to the file manager to move data where I want without ever needing to root it.
I'll probably still get a Play, and maybe adb is an option, but it still seems an annoyance to enable the option which should be there already.
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Your missing the point, root isnt a bad thing or a hack, google always ment to supply android rooted like any linux distro. But they took root away from the end user to protect them. Malware wise a unrooted phone is a safe phone. It's then the end users problem if they root there phone and have all there passwords stolen. There is no comeback on google. The nexus phones are easy to root because google makes it easy, phones made by companies like HTC are harder to root because they want to protect there software. Although HTC and Sony have made a U-turn recently, allowing for end users to now bootloader unlock there phones and even supporting 3rd party rom developers.
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Unfortunately rooting a phone isn't quite as simple as logging in as the root user in linux. If you could "log in" to your phone as root to perform certain actions such as moving apps to an sd card, and then "log out" when you are done, back into your regular phone user mode, then it would be a different story. As it stands now, you get one thing wrong in the root process and you could lose vital functionality, or in the worst case can brick your phone.
I don't call that "protecting the end user", I personally think that whole concept is a load of bull. If they wanted to really protect the end user they'd make it easy to log in as root, but require the user to contact support for the password or something and get them to accept a T&A first so they understand the implications of it. That way the phone doesn't permanently stay in "rooted" mode, and you only need the root access temporarily so your chances of contracting any Malware are slim.
Doesn't that make a lot more sense?
narflynn619 said:
firstly, this is Gingerbread, and with Gingerbread means we are given the full authority to install apps on the phone or on the SD card. The problem comes from developers themselves. Whether an app is installed in the internal memory or the SD card is solely determined by the developer because of a string/command they have to put on their application's manifest files. that string gives us the option, so if they have not included that string on their apk's (like Asphalt 6 for example with a size of 29MB!!!), we will have no choice to select where to install it--with a default location on the internal memory!
This one is a good read on what i'm trying to say:
http://muffinresearch.co.uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card/
there is a hack however, something like pm SetInstallLocation 2 through adb, it's somewhere here.. something like THIS it changes/forces the install location to SD card..
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Here's the ADB Hack:
Install Android SDK, download the recommened files.
Open up command prompt (if you're in windows) goto adb, its located [drive installed on, normally C]:\[wherever you installed it, i.e. program files, or if you unzipped it, unzip folder]\android-sdk_r12-windows\android-sdk-windows\platform-tools (where you have it installed might differ from mine. If you don't have the android sdk library, this makes it worth it.)
when you get to the folder you have adb located, and your phone is plugged in (USB Debuging needs to be turned on (settings -> application -> development)),
type:
adb shell
(you'll have to wait a little bit)
when you see the command prompt change to "#"
then type:
pm setInstallLocation 2
reboot
you don't need root, and it's easy to do
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I'm new to the Nook Color area of XDA, so I apologize in advance if my question is one that has been answered. I did search, but was not able to find an answer to my exact situation, so here it is:
I'm getting a NC as a gift for my family to use. I understand that the stock Rom for the NC allows you to access (what appears to me to be) B&N's version of the Market, with apps optimized for the NC. That sounds like a good thing, as it would seem like they would be the more stable versions (as they are built/tweaked specifically for the NC).
However, I'm familiar with (in general) the rooting/custom ROMs/overclocking concepts of an Android device, so I'm thinking I would like to put MIUI or CM7 on the device so that I can make it be the most powerful and useful device possible.
Here's my dilemma - I can't seem to find any posts that say whether the apps that a person can get from the B&N "market" will run (if transferred via ADB or Root Explorer, or whatever the NC equivalent may be) on a CM7/MIUI setup, or if it is just better to get the normal Market version of those apps.
For example: If I get Angry Birds in the B&N market, I would assume it's designed to run a certain way on the NC. If I download it from the Android Market, I would assume it's going to run differently. Is there any perceptible difference between the two?
I'm not entirely averse to staying with the stock ROM if the apps are heavily tied to (and perform better with) the stock setup. However, if it's not really going to matter whether they come from B&N or Google, I would prefer to be able to use a custom ROM and still be able to run (within reason) all the apps I'm used to using.
I guess that ultimately I can dual-boot if I find that the B&N app versions are superior, but having just dealt with a letdown from a Pandigital Novel, I'm wanting this experience to get off on the right foot. To me, the optimal situation would be a full install of a custom ROM, with either the optimized B&N apps running or equivalent Android Market apps running.
Thanks in advance for any advice/experiences anyone can offer.
I think it depends on whether or not the application requires anything that would be only in the B&N version of Android. I've used the Pandora application from the stock OS on CM7 and worked fine, but there may be some that won't. I haven't ran stock since about a week after getting mine.
Edit: I realized I rambled, so feel free to skip the long version below.
Short version: Not sure if you can ADB pull/push the paid B&N apps to another install, don't know how (if any) DRM works for that. While B&N apps are built specifically for the resolution, I find that they are very expensive (compared Angry Birds Seasons HD 99cents to B&N Angry Birds Seasons (HD) 3 dollars, and honestly I could not see a difference between the two) and if your Nook is not overclocked (which requires rooting), tend to be slow. There are some that are quite nice that I haven't found the equivalent of yet in Amazon App/Google Market such as Word Rainbow. You can find replacements/equivalents for most of the B&N apps in the other two stores I've mentioned. B&N sadly has a very small selection of apps that are actually any good, imo.
The native B&N reader app is far better than the Nook app (some functionality like enhanced children's books ONLY available on native app) and has not been, afaik, successfully ported.
Long, rambly, feel-free-to-ignore version pertaining more to ROMS than apps:
I've run unrooted stock, Manualnootered (rooted) stock, and various flavors of CM7.
- The native ereader app in stock has a very, very nice UI. Much better imo than the Kindle's. I still have to find a good replacement for it. It is also the only way, AFAIK, that you can read those enhanced children's books that lets you record your voice, or that has animations/reads to the viewer. If this is important to you, then stick to unrooted or rooted stock.
- Unrooted stock is so slow, that after having used overclocked rooted stock and CM7, I cannot bring myself to use it again. Even page turns were slow. App loading times are abysmal, and live wallpaper will not only eat your battery but cause everything else to slow down.
- Manualnootered stock is quite nice because you get to install 3rd party apps, have access to not only B&N's own store but also Google Market and Amazon App Store if you install them. You can also overclock so it's a much faster experience (highly recommended).
*Drawbacks are that there are some bugs that you may run into: Update issues with Adobe products, which cause boot loops (there's a fix for it). Not all apps may appear in Google Market (several things you can try to fix). And finally, if there's an OTA (over the air) update to the next (1.4, assuming you manualnooter to the latest 1.3 update), it will break your root/nootering and you will have to do it all over again.
- Installing a Cyanogenmod ROM: You get Gingerbread instead of Froyo (2.3.x vs 2.2.x), lots of goodies too many to list. With Tablet Tweaks (built in) and Nook Color Tools, you can tweak the bleep out of your Nook Color in terms of performance. You won't have to worry about OTA updates or the boot loop issue, but you do run into issues such as: "Your device is not compatible" messages when you try to install certain apps from Google Market (there are workarounds for most of them), SOD (Screen of Death, supposedly fixed with latest dalingrin kernel update), wifi issues (disconnect, difficulty connecting, etc.), force closes of random processes if using a nightly build. You could go with the stable build, but honestly the improvements in the nightly builds far outweigh the bugs which get ironed out pretty quickly.
The best part is, you don't even have to install just one of these. If you want, you can either a) dual boot stock + custom rom from EMMC (native Nook Color space), b) boot custom rom from SD install and keep unrooted stock to avoid voiding your warranty if you're concerned about that c) mix and match dual booting etc. It is pretty much impossible to brick your Nook Color.
After several months I've found that I prefer using CM7 builds simply because they are so much more customizable than rooted stock. I would suggest trying out both (stock, rooted or not, + CM7) via the SD card install + stock EMMC if you're not leaning towards one or the other.
Thank you. That was a very clear, concise, and complete answer to my question (and a good excuse for me to use some alliteration).
As I'm not really interested in the eReader functionality of the device, I'm guessing a Manualnootered/CM7(or MIUI) configuration is where I"ll go, at least until I'm sure what will work better for me.
Don't be surprised if you see me popping up in here again, asking more questions.
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
jmtheiss said:
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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First off, if you want to keep the kid's books, you have to keep stock on internal memory. It is the only way they can run. They won't work on CM. That rebloat pack is just to put the stock nook reader back on stock.
When you put the SD card in the PC it is normal that it sees only the boot partition of the SD.
When you connect your nook to the PC with the USB cable, the PC can only see the internal media partition (emmc) and partition 4 of the SD (sdcard).
Root Explorer will let you read/write if you touch the toggle button at the top of it's screen.
With adb, what are you trying to mount?
Thanks for the reply.
I'm using ES File explorer, which I know works to give me the read/write capabilities, but after mounting /system (and/or /system/app) as read-write, I was not able to write files into because it said that it was not read-write.
With ADB, I was trying to mount either /system or /system/app as rewritable, but I couldn't get it to take.
That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
jmtheiss said:
That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
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The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
leapinlar said:
The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
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Alright. Thanks, that makes a lot more sense.
I recently rooted/installed CleanROM for my S4, but now I have some basic questions regarding what actually happened in the process and how I could improve it. (First smartphone, first Android).
1. Is flashing the exact equivalent of installing a kernel/ROM/app in a recovery like TeamWin that is zipped in an SD card? All I did was select my zipped file and install--the guide says to use GooManager but I never used it. Also, does updating TWRP, kernel, or ROM (same application/kernel/ROM, but newer version) require that you delete the old ZIP, copy over the new ZIP, then install it? Is there a cleaner method (I feel that since we have to wipe to prevent old files from interfering with new ROM that maybe parts of the old version of a ROM may be redundant or may interfere with the new ROM?
2. Is there a way I can save the phone settings when dealing with one ROM and transferring these settings to another ROM? I really don't want to spend 20 minutes to go through all the settings and change it to my liking every time I install a new ROM.
3. With TWRP I could backup the entire ROM and also be able to install that backup ROM if I don't like the new ROM installed? What does Titanium Backup offer in regards to this aside from backing up app data and the ability freeze/uninstall system apps?
4. Does Titanium Backup leave any residual files? I see other apps designed to uninstall system apps and Titanium Backup seems like an all-in-one jack of all trades.
5. I thought I wiped everything and to me, that sounds like reformatting the entire drive. I only wiped system, boot, and data though (good enough for ROMs, according to what I've read). I was surprised when I saw my videos that I had already backed up to my PC accessible on the phone. Should I just wipe literally everything (I assume it would be cleaner) like cache, preload, EFS, modem, recovery, etc.? Will wiping literally everything be like reformatting my phone (since my phone was not reformatted because my personal videos was still there when I installed my custom ROM? If I were to install completely different ROMs cleanly and wanted to keep my personal files, I would only need to wipe system, data, and boot?
4. Do I have to use CASUAL again to install an updated TWRP?
5. Does backing up a ROM also backup its root? I'm going to assume this is a dumb question and the answer is no. I'm also guessing I have to block OTA updates from AT&T to ensure I keep my root. How would I go about doing this? Also, would my phone be "safe" if I stick to my ROM (no updates or anything) for 4+ years? I'm asking this as an extreme case because I feel like I'm missing out on AT&T security updates that could protect my phone and also I don't think the developer my ROM (CleanROM) will do frequent updates).
6. I had problems with my computer not being able to recognize my phone and my SD card in the phone after I wiped everything and before I installed a ROM. I literally had to take the SD card from the phone and use an SD card reader to transfer my custom ROM/loki then put it back into the phone. Was I missing a driver?
7. What are some must-have apps a newly rooted user would want?
8. I read that you only need 1 EFS backup and you don't need to back it up every time you are going to install a custom ROM. Can I get a confirmation?
9. What does Goo Manager do and would I want it?
10. Is it essential that I keep up to date with news about my custom ROM/phone to ensure my phone is secured?
**Not Root/ROM related--Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List (long-press home button) the equivalent of killing an app? I use the Recent Apps List often but I don't want to go about swiping apps away if means it is killing it, since I read that killing apps are bad and actually drains battery life. Also, is there a mod that lets you access the Recent Apps List by long-pressing the menu one? I only see a mod that kills the app if you long-press it.
Also, any ROMs you guys can recommend me that is like CleanROM? It has to be TW-based because I use multi-windows. Basically, I want a stable, popular (popular ones tend to be more frequently updated, which is important because there are often bugs in custom ROMs), and optimized/debloated ROM (as debloated as possible, I rather use my own large list of apps than pre-installed ones). I was looking at GoldenEye but I'm not sure.
Thanks. I'm hoping for many responses as I have more questions to ask but not a lot of free time (I will check back on this thread every several hours until there are no more responses on the thread.
Hey there! Here is my take on at least some of your questions. I am not a super pro, but I will try not to give you any wrong info.
1. The zip files that are still out on your SD card are just the install files for whatever you are flashing. They won't be cleaned up automatically and you will need to delete them yourself if you want them gone. That being said I would recommend leaving the previous version's zip out there in case you need to back out of the new version.
2. If by phone settings you mean all of the settings in the various option menus baked into the ROM it is best to redo those when switching between ROMs. Many ROMs add and take away options and add whole new option sections so you will want to go through those and set things to your liking. Another option is to use a launcher like Nova Launcher that lets you back up its settings and restore them which is a big chunk of the things I change when going to a new ROM. Some people may have a different opinion on this one.
3. Yes if you make a backup in a recovery like TWRP and then restore from it it will be like you never flashed the other ROM. Titanium backup does what you say and also can backup individual Apps themselves and restore them.
4. Once you have a recovery installed you should not have to go through the hoops you went through to get it there to update it. Check the thread for the recovery for upgrade instructions.
5. Your SD card will not be wiped when you wipe system or data. There is also the internal "sdcard" that if I recall is not wiped when you do a standard wipe which will keep things like pics and videos between flashes.
6. So you were trying to access the phone storage/SD card while it was in recovery? I have never had much luck with that. I always just make sure I have all of the files I will need to install the new ROM moved over before I wipe it. That being said if you have the right driver it might be possible.
7. Titanium Backup, a file explorer that can leverage Root access like Root Explorer, maybe something like Greenify (I think it takes Root). Other than that check out the thread in the Apps/Themes subforum where people list their top 5 apps.
8. Pass (but I think what you heard/read is right)
9. Goo Manager can let you know if there is updated version of your ROM or what other ROMs are available for your device and download them. It can also be used to install a recovery. Personally I don't use it and just check ROM threads for updates if the ROM doesn't offer OTA updates.
10. I rarely see mention of security fixes/features in custom ROMs so I don't think you need to stay on top of threads for that reason. With that said, if security is crazy super important to you then a custom ROM might not be your best bet. Even though source code is available for most if not all of them that doesn't mean someone has gone through the code looking for security flaws (or even malicious code).
11. You can test this yourself. Go into the "Apps" section of the options and look at what Apps are running then swipe one away and check again. Personally I would go ahead and swipe away Apps as needed since that is a core Android feature. I haven't seen a mod for what you are asking.
12. The other two TW-based ROMs I have used are Goldeneye and Alpha. Both are good, but I am using Alpha now due to its higher degree of customization. Goldeneye hasn't been updated in a month or so, Alpha is being updated regularly at the moment.
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Here is the link to the thread where people list out their top 5 apps!
Nice post, very good help...serious...
Incredibly helpful, thanks. I will post more questions if I have here, kind of busy at the moment.
Question:
What is the best way to detect whether a third-party app has a keylogger? I read from an article that it is incredibly easy for someone to put a keylogger on an app. Is Avast Mobile Security and Antivirus capable/overkill for this job? Also, I was worried that Avast may actually be bad because it would deteriorate (wear and tear on the SSD of the phone) through all the scannings? Or am I completely wrong? If I am wrong, I'm guessing it's because an antivirus only reads your files and therefore does not wear down a SSD (I'm not even sure if this is right).
mindstormer said:
Question:
What is the best way to detect whether a third-party app has a keylogger? I read from an article that it is incredibly easy for someone to put a keylogger on an app. Is Avast Mobile Security and Antivirus capable/overkill for this job? Also, I was worried that Avast may actually be bad because it would deteriorate (wear and tear on the SSD of the phone) through all the scannings? Or am I completely wrong? If I am wrong, I'm guessing it's because an antivirus only reads your files and therefore does not wear down a SSD (I'm not even sure if this is right).
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You can read a SSD all day long, that doesn't wear it out. Writing to a SSD will cause wear, not reading. I'm thinking that most antivirus apps can find that kind of stuff, but don't download from unknown sources or those you don't trust. Even Google Play has some shady stuff. I would recommend researching an app on Google if you have any doubts about it. I'm sure it can be done, but I really doubt any of your friends know how to reprogram one of your apps to have a keylogger, plus I wouldn't let them use my phone in the first place.
To answer your questions:
1. Antivirus doesn't wear anything out, it just puts load on your system.
2. Most antivirus apps should detect apps like the ones your talking about.
agent929 said:
You can read a SSD all day long, that doesn't wear it out. Writing to a SSD will cause wear, not reading. I'm thinking that most antivirus apps can find that kind of stuff, but don't download from unknown sources or those you don't trust. Even Google Play has some shady stuff. I would recommend researching an app on Google if you have any doubts about it. I'm sure it can be done, but I really doubt any of your friends know how to reprogram one of your apps to have a keylogger, plus I wouldn't let them use my phone in the first place.
To answer your questions:
1. Antivirus doesn't wear anything out, it just puts load on your system.
2. Most antivirus apps should detect apps like the ones your talking about.
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Thanks for the confirmation.
Another question for anyone:
Clean Master found the folder of an app that I installed on a precious ROM, so I not wipe the device cleanly. I though wiping system, boot, and data was enough--what was I missing, or should I have checked everything to be wiped on TeamWin Recovery?
Are you sure its not coming from your SD card?
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Suddenly increase of the people trying to root their devices recently.
Something goes wrong and either they have no backup or its damaged and then they have a lot of trouble.
So I'd thought a list a couple of things that you should do BEFORE you try to do anything else to your Nook Simple Touch or Nook Simple Touch Glow aka NST/NSTG
Now I strongly suggest making two backups in different manners detailed below. I personally do this before I even use my NST for first time.
NookManager:
Nookmanager has a great backup tool however it does save it directly onto the sdcard which if is not big enough or has other errors or you simply end up deleting by accident.
Pros: Convenient backup and restore. No need for PC. ADB over wireless to copy backup.
Cons: Must remember to copy off sdcard, at mercy of sdcard failing.
Noogie:
Noogie allows the NST/NSTG partitions to be completely accessible by a PC over a usb cable.
You then use a tool on the PC to backup all the partitions to a file.
Pros: Your backup is stored independent of your sdcard. A bit more verbose by default.
Cons: If your usb cable is dodgy or usb bus errors can be introduced.
Both systems have good points and bad points doing both means if one is not quite right you have an alternative. Its worth doing both.
A complete image of a NST/NSTG is around 1.86GB in size however after compression should be around 280MB.
Now to the details.
I would do Noogie first as you can then use the same sdcard to stick nookmanager on that you may want to do the root with (after backing up correctly).
Some of my nook's usb cables were charge only ones (very handy) so if cable is thin with too cores and long use a different cable.
I would try and avoid using class 10 sdcards for this process.
Noogie
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If you use windows use this guide
The same method you stick noogie img onto sdcard you can use to stick nookmanager as well.
After the backup check your event viewer [Start->settings->Control Panel->Administration Tools->Event Viewer->System].
Look for any error Red or yellow warning about disks.
Windows does not pop up something when your having serious disk errors (even to their latest version!)
Remember to "safety remove the hardware" before unplugging the NST.
You will end up with a 1.86GB image file I would suggest compressing it using rar/zip to get to a manageable size plus add some CRC checking.
If you use Linux use this one.
If you linux newbie be very very very careful with the dd command. Its very powerful and a simple typo can ruin your computer.
Make sure nothing is mounted during the process.
Run dmesg or sudo tail /var/log/kern.log to see if any usb or disk errors.
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Read the Guide
You can use winimage mention in noogie guide to stick Nookmanager on a sdcard too.
When booting off Nookmanager say no to wifi, Rescue->Backup, Use rest of space on SD card, create backup.
Obviously make sure your device is well charged and choose a big enough sd card to hold the backup. Its about 280MB compressed.
Once backup is complete we want to get it onto our PC or something other than a single sdcard which are prone to sudden failure.
Nookmanager has stored the backup on a second partition on the sdcard.
Windows does not like mounting second partitions on removable devices by default so we can't easily be able to access it.
If you can either enable wireless and usb adb to copy which I won't go into now or connect your nook via usb while running nookmanager and it will appear as a mass storage device.
You are looking for a file called "backup.full.gz". Copy that as well as its md5. Make sure you check the size is around 280ishMB.
If you have already connect the stock nook over usb or used noogie over usb to your PC sometimes it will get confused and the drives won't appear in windows explorer.
This is windows getting confused. If you click on the safetly remove device icon you will see two drive letters are assigned its just explorer that can't access them. Easy fix is to reboot. If your like me and dozens of web browsing windows open and regard rebooting as something the power company forces on me few times a year you can do this to access.
Start->settings->Control Panel->Administration Tools->Computer Management->Disk Manager.
You will see the drive letters for your nook there. Right click (don't click format or delete!) and chose open. Explorer will now happily open a window with your drive contents.
Again as with Noogie check your event viewer system for any errors. (make sure hit F5 for refresh)
On linux you can mount the second partition no trouble so either remove sdcard and stick in a reader or use nook via usb cable. Mount and copy. Check size of file. I am sure if using linux and have mastered dd you know how.
So now you should have two full backups using different methods.
Now go forth and root, tinker and learn about with your NST/NSTG to your hearts content knowing you can safely recover.
Personally I like Version 1.2.X Nookmanager as a root method but I was also recommend if you have more than one NST trying out all of kuskro's hardwork on 1.1.X and excellent guides starting here (never tried on NSTG however)
Getting your SDcard back to normal
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After rooting/backing up if you want to put your sdcard back to normal for storage you can't just simply format as the card has been repartitioned.
Easiest tool I have found for doing this is HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool which should be here I think.
Simple to use just select sdcard and hit format. It will automatically repartition and format to the maximum size of your card.
Hi i just had a quick question about the rooting,
When i have rooted, will there be a file manager already on there? so i can download any apk's i want, transfer onto micro sd and then install them? Is this going to be possible?
I ask because i dont particularly want all of the google apps which come in the package thing, and the installation of them seems slightly awkward, main part about it is that wont the imaged nook manager micro sd not have space for more files? but it tells you to put extra files on there.
I havent started the rooted yet but will be in a bit.
Thanks anyway.
flobbadob said:
Hi i just had a quick question about the rooting,
When i have rooted, will there be a file manager already on there? so i can download any apk's i want, transfer onto micro sd and then install them? Is this going to be possible?
I ask because i dont particularly want all of the google apps which come in the package thing, and the installation of them seems slightly awkward, main part about it is that wont the imaged nook manager micro sd not have space for more files? but it tells you to put extra files on there.
I havent started the rooted yet but will be in a bit.
Thanks anyway.
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If your using nookmanager then the launcher relaunch that comes with is a filemanager. Touchnooter has something too. You don't have to install gapps and can sideload if you want. A lot of apps need a /sdcard so I would recommend having one for storage. Not sure if you need gapps for licensing etc for paid apps. You can use adb over wifi to install apps from a PC ie a filemanager like esfileexplorer if you did not have one available. I would ask your questions regarding any specific root method in their relevant thread....
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If your using nookmanager then the launcher relaunch that comes with is a filemanager. Touchnooter has something too. You don't have to install gapps and can sideload if you want. A lot of apps need a /sdcard so I would recommend having one for storage. Not sure if you need gapps for licensing etc for paid apps. You can use adb over wifi to install apps from a PC ie a filemanager like esfileexplorer if you did not have one available. I would ask your questions regarding any specific root method in their relevant thread....
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okay ,sorry about wrong thread and whatnot, thank you though!
i think i get the gist of everything now anyway, im very new to all this lol. ill probably just install the gapps anyway now for mail and calendar.
Also just a general question, is battery life decreased at all after rooting? or was the android running all the time even before root and now i can just use it (if that makes sense)
flobbadob said:
okay ,sorry about wrong thread and whatnot, thank you though!
i think i get the gist of everything now anyway, im very new to all this lol. ill probably just install the gapps anyway now for mail and calendar.
Also just a general question, is battery life decreased at all after rooting? or was the android running all the time even before root and now i can just use it (if that makes sense)
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Battery life initially perhaps. Your adding gapps running in background. Phone.apk, Music.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk gets installed where it does not need to be.
Joy of rooting is you can uninstall or disable what you don't want. Longterm with some tweaks you extended it a lot. Remember to let screen timeout rather than using power button when to lock screen.
If you don't want B&N stuff just your own ereading system and don't want some gapps disable/freeze all this:
FfileDownloadService.apk,AccountAndSyncSettin gs.apk, AirRuntime.apk, ApplicationsProvider.apk, BnAuthenticationService.apk, BnCloudRequestSvc.apk, ContactsProvider.apk, CrytoServer.apk, DemoMode.apk, DeviceManager.apk, DeviceRegistrator.apk, GlobalSearch.apk, gtalkservice.apk, Home.apk, Library.apk, Music.apk, NookCommunity.apk, Phone.apk, QuickStartActivity.apk, Shop.apk, Social.apk, SysChecksum.apk, Talk.apk, TalkProvider.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk, WaveformDownloader.apk
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Battery life initially perhaps. Your adding gapps running in background. Phone.apk, Music.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk gets installed where it does not need to be.
Joy of rooting is you can uninstall or disable what you don't want. Longterm with some tweaks you extended it a lot. Remember to let screen timeout rather than using power button when to lock screen.
If you don't want B&N stuff just your own ereading system and don't want some gapps disable/freeze all this:
FfileDownloadService.apk,AccountAndSyncSettin gs.apk, AirRuntime.apk, ApplicationsProvider.apk, BnAuthenticationService.apk, BnCloudRequestSvc.apk, ContactsProvider.apk, CrytoServer.apk, DemoMode.apk, DeviceManager.apk, DeviceRegistrator.apk, GlobalSearch.apk, gtalkservice.apk, Home.apk, Library.apk, Music.apk, NookCommunity.apk, Phone.apk, QuickStartActivity.apk, Shop.apk, Social.apk, SysChecksum.apk, Talk.apk, TalkProvider.apk, TelephonyProvider.apk, WaveformDownloader.apk
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quick question, ive gone and deleted a lot of those apps, not sure if this was caused by that (doubt it) but:
when i go on the quicklaunch and click library, it goes to the relaunch page, not my nook library, any idea whats up
flobbadob said:
quick question, ive gone and deleted a lot of those apps, not sure if this was caused by that (doubt it) but:
when i go on the quicklaunch and click library, it goes to the relaunch page, not my nook library, any idea whats up
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You should read closer before doing.
If you don't want B&N stuff
A lot of those in the list are for B&N stuff like the library. ie. Library.apk. If you want B&N Apps undo what you have done. Good job you have a backup :silly: One of the reasons I said disable/freeze as well as uninstall. If you are not using an app to disable/freeze (like titainium backup) then you can simply rename them with a root enabled filemanager. e.g. library.apk to library.apk_disabled
Search around for details on what to disable and what they do to see if you want them or not. Don't deregister the nook with B&N apps disabled.
Crispy3000 said:
You should read closer before doing.
If you don't want B&N stuff
A lot of those in the list are for B&N stuff like the library. ie. Library.apk. If you want B&N Apps undo what you have done. Good job you have a backup :silly: One of the reasons I said disable/freeze as well as uninstall. If you are not using an app to disable/freeze (like titainium backup) then you can simply rename them with a root enabled filemanager. e.g. library.apk to library.apk_disabled
Search around for details on what to disable and what they do to see if you want them or not. Don't deregister the nook with B&N apps disabled.
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yeah, turns out i did delete the library apk when ishouldnt have, but it turns out that i can just use the file browser which is the homepage for relaunch to access epub files (which open up in the reader) so the library app thing is kinda redundant.
EDIT: everything is fine now, i got a new library app and somehow deleted the keyboard which im getting back now lol
Please Read Everything Carefully as some info is crucial to getting your old phone functioning well!
Update:::: August 16, 2015 ::::::::::
STAGEFRIGHT BUG:
This bug has been blown way out of proportion and it is not something anyone should be extremely worried about. There are no patches for gingerbread as of yet, and I cannot patch it since I do not have the CM source. However, you can copy from /system/build.prop and open the file in Notepad++ and then search for "stage" and change the "true" to "false" -without quotes. While this is not a fix, it will still offer some protection. Do not download apk files from places you do not trust and you should be ok. For now you can also do the following :
1) In MMS App, Turn off Auto-Retrieve. If your Carrier converts your voice mails to text, you will no longer be getting those. The app will then provide a download button for you to download the message instead. You can simply call your voice mail and listen to the message and download it if you think its important.
2) Remove the stock browser - do not use it to sign into anything.
3) Use Firefox as your default browser. It will be slower but safer. Type about:config > Search for Stagefright > Set stagefright.disabled to True
4) FIREWALL : Use AFWall+ to block Apps making unneeded connections to places you don't trust. It starts in Whitelist mode. Change it Blacklist mode. Be careful, and understand how to use this. LINK https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufirewall&hl=en
6) In an effort to save RAM and unnecessary background Operation, I have included ForceStop Prevent Running. Do not update this past version 0.15. Updates after this do not work well on Gingerbread. Preventing Google Play Store is ok, Play Services is optional (You will lose all sync except Contacts and Calendar but no unnecessary background syncing.[/I]
7) GApps package now Included. It is Stock Gingerbread Gapps with Google Play Store updated to version 5.1.11. Please note that the latest Google Play Store works Fine but it is slower. If you want to block it from Updating, BEFORE connecting to Wifi, IF the APK is called com.android.vending.apk THEN create a new directory in /data/app called com.android.vending-1.apk, so it is always 1 number higher than what is installed. Also, if you do Update, MOVE the update to System parition or you will have 2 copies of it. Then delete its Dalvik cache and reboot
Update :::: June 18, 2015 ::::::::::::::New Goody : Added Modded K9-Email for Gingerbread to list of Software - It is open source, and a good way to check "Hotmail/Outlook" using Imap. Imap functions in Outlook are limited but the program works. I have removed the Ugly K9 dog Icon and replaced it with a real Email icon to make it look more appealing
Updated ::: June 12, 2015 ::::::::::::: New Goody : Attached Adaway for Gingerbread - Disclaimer: I support ads in some apps that do so reasonably, but some apps are out of control with Permissions and blowing up your screen with constant Ads, this behavior is unacceptable so I have included AdAway here. It is the user's Right and choice to do as they please on a carrier/contract free ROM, however it is not my responsibility what you may do with this ROM. This ROM still contains most of the original components of the Original ROM and I may remove outdated functions or add new functions in the future
This is MIUI 2.3.30 Gingerbread version 2.3.7 U.S. English Rom
I have now added various changes to this ROM. No more Security Certificate issues. No more Email / IMAP issues -K9 Mail, Exchange and Google accounts should sync without issues now
Xposed For Gingerbread + Prevent Running + Security Fixes are now attached below for convenience
Partitioning your SDCard is absolutely recommended or you will not have enough Internal Space to have Google Apps - Internal Space should only store Dalvik Cache - Please see details
1) 30 Step Headset Volume Configuration - works great with Volume Limiter
2) Security Certificates updated. Bad and Outdated ones Removed. see GuardianProject. This ROM is more secure. I also highly recommend using Firefox and OperaMini. I have also attached CACERTS.BKS - Remove the .TXT Extension - Already included in the ROM but can be used in other Gingerbread devices!
3) Nexus Pie boot animation
4) Misc changes - Gps locks fast when using GPS apps like Mapfactor Navigator, CPU Sleep works during trackball wake/notify feature, country codes in dialer corrected, Correct APN and Carrier name will show.
Recommended Software
I recommend you download this: Volume Limiter by Captain Neoguri - March 26, 2014
Caution: Nexus One hardware has a bug where upon using this app when adjusting volume outputs in max volume which can be dangerous for your ears, Please do not wear your headset when doing volume adjustments. I recommend a volume of upto 16 in this app for headset max volume.
Recommended : Xposed Framework for Gingerbread :::::: Download Below
Once you install it, Update it, and Install the Following :
1) Fake ID Fix
2) Master Key Multi Fix
3) MasterKeyFix GB
These are all Security Patches for Gingerbread. I have taken the Courtesy to attach them in this thread.
I recommend Google Play Store no later than 5.1.11 as the latest versions seem to have some kind of DPI related bug and will Force close constantly. Google Play Services can however be updated to 7.5.73-034 - I have tested it and it is working perfectly fine
Launcher : I am now recommending Holo Launcher from the Playstore. It saves RAM and it is much more Functional than the Stock launcher. When I have time, I will entirely remove the Stock Launcher and put Holo Launcher in the ROM or until I get permission from its author
Call Blocking Call blocking feature is built into the ROM, however it is like most call blockers which simply hide the blocked call but it still goes through. A solution to this is to use this app. Root Call Blocker : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fahrbot.apps.rootcallblocker.beta&hl=en
It will take about 5 minutes to set up and will allow you to kill a call after 1 ring and it will not go into your voice mail. So the Spam caller will have no idea whether its a dead number or to even bother calling back. Usually "Dead Rings" make the automated telemarketing calls stop because the computer dialer that is making the call keeps getting dead air and it keeps showing in their call logs. So it becomes their problem, you will simply never see the call coming until 1 day you decide to go in your blocker's call log. So if you have a pesky caller, use this app.
Radio / Baseband Software
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Passion_Info
If your 3G does not work, Please check your 3G Network's supported Frequency with your Nexus One 3G Supported Frequency. There were 2 models of this phone released in Canada. This is not due to MIUI and downloading any Radio software will NOT fix this because it is by design.
You need version 5.08.00.04 if you are not using a Korean Nexus One. Download it, then Extract the Radio.img file from the zip.
1) You need to have ADB Fastboot and ADB Enabled on your phone. You can download a small ADB Version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
There are also other places to get ADB, But just know there is no need to download Gigantic SDK Kit from Google. You only need the basic ADB with Fastboot.
2) Press Volume Down, Then Press Power and Start your phone in Bootloader Mode. Then select Fastboot. Make sure your phone is now in Fastboot mode, it should say it at the top of all the choices.
3) Go to where you ADB folder is and hit Shift + Right Click = Open Command Window Here.
4) Now Plug your USB cable into your phone and type in Command Prompt this - fastboot devices. You should see your Phone listed. If you do not, go back and check everything.
5) Copy that Radio.img file from the Zip you extracted into your ADB Folder and then type
fastboot flash radio radio.img
It should take about 30 seconds.
Use the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698721 to push it to your phone.
Now you are done.
How To Increase Internal Storage using Data2SD. This puts Apps(apk) AND Data onto your SD EXT Partition so you have more free Internal memory on the internal /Data partition
MIUI comes with something called A2SD+ which is turned off by Default.
1) Go into TWRP Recovery. Create EXT-4 Partition. You will lose all data, so before doing this, its a good idea to backup.
Create an EXT partition size you are comfortable with and depending on your needs.
2) SWAP SPACE 0. You do not need it.
When it is done. Your SD Card now has a FAT partition and an EXT Partition. You can reformat your FAT to FAT32 in Windows if you would like and give it a name.
Then get this Script. MAKE SURE YOU READ EVERYTHING in the Following Threads.
This is Ungaze Data2SD Script. Script is now Attached at the bottom of this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378568
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661892
Get the Data2SD Script and copy it to your SDCard FAT32 partition. Reboot your phone a couple times after flashing MIUI. Wipe Dalvik, Wipe Cache, Then Flash Ungaze D2SD from Recovery.
Follow directions in those threads and you should see an increase in Internal Storage Space in MIUI
You can delete the Contents of /mnt/asec/d2sd/data/app/* and /mnt/asec/d2sd/data/data/* from your Device Root which is "/" after this otherwise you will have 2 copies of the same app. You should only have Dalvik-Cache in this location as it links to your Internal Memory Data partition. Make a backup first to your SD Card incase something goes wrong by copying those APKs, then simply Delete them. Your Device System Partition will have System Apps, Data partition will have Dalvik Cache and your SD Card's EXT Partition will have the rest of the Apps and their Data.
ETC INFO
You will Need ROOT Access for almost everything if you want to make changes so make sure you have SuperUser Access Turned ON in MIUI.
Search for ADAWAY which creates a HOSTS file in your /System/etc Directory, which helps to block ads. I prefer using only open source apps or apps with Ads that do not Annoy.
Use ES File Explorer
And now you can install (or Uninstall) all the Pesky large size Google Apps. I personally stay away from ANY Google App I do not absolutely Need. I remove apps like
Google Search
Google Talk (Hangouts)
and Other Google crap.
MIUI has the basics of what you need. But you can Remove the MIUI Accounts etc because you won't be needing it.
And Anything Pesky that I cannot trust. Make sure you Backup in Recovery first before Uninstalling System Apps.
You can use an app called Disable Service from the PlayStore to disable Individual Services in an app incase you don't want certain services loading up. This should help conserve memory and cpu cycles if needed and also to disable functionalities in Apps that are otherwise impossible to disable. Link Below
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice&hl=en
The idea is to keep it SIMPLE and functional.
Last but not least, Thanks to everyone at XDA for making things like this possible. Without this community, we would not be able to do the things we can to bring enjoyment and functionality to our devices. Thanks to everyone who finds a solution and posts it with details for everyone to understand. I hope this culture keeps growing stronger.
Don't forget to say Thanks
That's it Folks! Bring out your old Nexus One. It will be fast, and serve its purpose as a phone first. And YES, Even your mom will now be able to use it. Enjoy!
ROM DOWNLOAD:
Download MIUI-Android-2.3.30-Gingerbread-NexusOne
Thanks for your time and for sharing this with us... Maybe some of us knows these stuff but in the KK 4.4.4 era, there always is someone who want to use the Sexy Nexy as a fully functional phone and use an eye candy ROM and more user friendly than CM 7.2.
For recovery I recommend 4Ext Recovery
Regards!
Obsy said:
Thanks for your time and for sharing this with us... Maybe some of us knows these stuff but in the KK 4.4.4 era, there always is someone who want to use the Sexy Nexy as a fully functional phone and use an eye candy ROM and more user friendly than CM 7.2.
For recovery I recommend 4Ext Recovery
Regards!
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Hey, no problem! Yes 4Ext is a good recovery if you are on Blackrose and change your hboot partitions etc. My Guide is for those who don't want to mess with that and the TWRP Recovery is working flawless. I will mess around with Blackrose to increase internal Memory because one thing I find after bootloader unlock is the initial boot process is what takes the longest! MIUI Itself boots in less than half the time it takes for the intial boot. (Nexus X multi colored Logo with gray colored open lock at the bottom)
I am still not quite sure if the trouble of using Blackrose just to cut down my Cache partition to 50mb is worth the time and trouble because the phone is running fine. And I am also not sure if Blackrose will work with twrp. I will need to read more on this.
Thanks.
I completely agree with this OP. This is best rom you can use on the nexus one, I've played around with all sorts of roms and versions including the most recent KitKat iterations and non of them are smooth in comparison with a solid gingerbread rom. But this rom is particularly good because it still makes the Nexus One feel fresh.
daaac said:
I completely agree with this OP. This is best rom you can use on the nexus one, I've played around with all sorts of roms and versions including the most recent KitKat iterations and non of them are smooth in comparison with a solid gingerbread rom. But this rom is particularly good because it still makes the Nexus One feel fresh.
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Thanks Daaac, you are right. When I pull out this old Phone, people ask me where did I get it? And how nice it looks. When I tell them its over 4 years old, they seem surprised. What google still does not seem to realize is that when it comes to Phones, people look at both the Phone hardware AND its Software that's running on it. Android is terribly ugly and MIUI is the closest you can get to getting some kind of Organized option structure even though it lacks some power user features, it is still better than scrolling through endless Cyanogenmod Gingerbread options. Not the fault of Cyanogenmod, but I blame Google for the terrible User Interface of Android. Google seems to hire Amateurs to design their User Interface and then market it as Simplicity. In my opinion, Apple runs circles around Android when it comes to Fluidity but ofcourse we know why we stick to Android, for things an iOs user can only dream of, specially on older devices. This MIUI ROM comes closest to make your Nexus One a daily usable phone with very few annoyances, however it is stable, never crashes, and looks good.
Thanks for your guide, very nice to read your step by step, good as I didn't update nexus one since 1 year ago and I don't remember all steps.
Thanks!!
You are most certainly welcomed Sir! If you ever have any questions, feel free to ask me.
danibus said:
Thanks for your guide, very nice to read your step by step, good as I didn't update nexus one since 1 year ago and I don't remember all steps.
Thanks!!
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Thank you very much for taking the time to cook such a nice ROM for Nexus one. I hadn't installed any custom ROM on my device until some days ago. It is really awesome. Considering that Nexus one is an old device I do not expect to be any update for this ROM, but in case there was one I would appreciate it if you could post the link.
You need to see the first post for that to happen.
miui_nexus1 said:
Thank you very much for taking the time to cook such a nice ROM for Nexus one. I hadn't installed any custom ROM on my device until some days ago. It is really awesome. Considering that Nexus one is an old device I do not expect to be any update for this ROM, but in case there was one I would appreciate it if you could post the link.
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Thanks for your quick reply. I am well aware of your updates to the ROM. I especially love the Nexus pie and appreciate the security updates.
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You need to see the first post for that to happen.
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More security fixes!! I can't believe my eyes. Thanks a ton!
Hola launcher
I have tried Hola launcher (e.g. with chromatic theme), and its icons are similar to MIUI icons in contrast with Hola launcher (which is similar to latest Android versions).
P.s. I am just testing . I don't know if this launcher will drain the battery fast or not.
That launcher will slow down your system, and constantly try to download ads. It also takes up a LOT of RAM. The idea here to make the device run FAST consuming as little resources as possible. On a fresh boot, my N1 RAM usage is at 95MB, and after 28 Hours, it is 144MB. With other processes that are important Cached. My Dialer starts and makes calls upto 3 seconds faster than my Galaxy 3 on Lollipop.
All this can be achieved by disabling Google Play Services and Google Play Store from starting on boot (unless you have apps that you are always using and depend constantly on them) - I don't use apps that heavily depend on Google Play Services, and if I do, I start the service and the app, then I press the "back" key and exit Google Play Services. - Xposed Framework module attached to prevent Apps from running helps.
Battery life is great, easily lasts 2-3 days with minor screen time / talk time - Heavy usage can last a full day. This is all on a 2010 phone with an old battery. My Nexus One puts most people's dual core modern phones to shame when it comes to speed
miui_nexus1 said:
I have tried Hola launcher (e.g. with chromatic theme), and its icons are similar to MIUI icons in contrast with Hola launcher (which is similar to latest Android versions).
P.s. I am just testing . I don't know if this launcher will drain the battery fast or not.
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That is fantastic battery life and speed you have!
I have got some questions and appreciate your help (Please forgive my newbie questions and such a long post)
1) When I want to run PHONE and MESSAGING applications on “Holo launcher” it gives this error message: "This activity cannot be launched". Although stock MIUI icons for these applications work fine.
2) I partitioned my memory card using ClockworkMod recovery and I dedicated 2 Gb’s of my 16 Gb class 10 microSD card (I haven’t had any problem with this recovery so far but if you think it may be incompatible with your ROM or cause issues please let me know and I will replace it). After flashing Ungaze Data2SD I see an increase in the internal memory . To be honest I didn’t completely understand the rest of the instructions so I do not know whether I have done it right or not.
"You can delete the Contents of /mnt/asec/d2sd/data/app/* and /mnt/asec/d2sd/data/data/* from your Device Root which is "/" after this otherwise you will have 2 copies of the same app. You should only have Dalvik-Cache in this location as it links to your Internal Memory Data partition. Make a backup first to your SD Card in case something goes wrong by copying those APKs, then simply Delete them. Your Device System Partition will have System Apps, Data partition will have Dalvik Cache and your SD Card's EXT Partition will have the rest of the Apps and their Data."
This is what I did:
I used “adb shell” to access the contents of those two locations and deleted their contents. As I said before I didn’t understand the rest of the instructions and I assumed it has been done correctly!! Then I installed my apps normally but I do not know whether they have been copied to the internal memory or the memory card. (I have downloaded apk’s of all apps I use from "apps.evozi. /apk-downloader/" or "apk4fun" and I have installed them using package manager).
My main question is what do I do after cleaning up those two locations and how do I install the apps so they will be copied to the memory Card’s Ext partition.
You should only have Dalvik-Cache in this location (What location exactly?)
Your Device System Partition will have System Apps (/system?)
Data partition will have Dalvik Cache (/data?)
SD Card's EXT Partition (/sd-ext?) If I am right as I have “adb” installed on my windows, it doesn’t show me the contents of this folder naturally. I have Ubuntu Linux too but “adb” is not installed on it.
Thanks a lot for your time!
1) Remove Holo Launcher icons and drag and drop Phone and Messaging icon from Drawer into the Dock at the bottom.
2) Use TWRP recovery.
3) /Data partition is EXT2 partition on your SDCard. Apps+Data (app data) will be there.
4) /mnt/asec/d2sd will be the "other" data partition (the original data partition) which is where your Dalvik cache will be.
5) Apps will be installed where their manifest suggests - Most apps will be installed to /Data on your EXT and their Dalvik Cache will be on the Internal parition /mnt/asec/d2sd/Dalvik-Cache
6) Use ES File Explorer - give it Root permissions - make sure Superuser permissions is set to On and inside ES Explorer you give Root access R/W - you can view all partions there
7) Use DiskInfo to see all your partitions
miui_nexus1 said:
That is fantastic battery life and speed you have!
I have got some questions and appreciate your help (Please forgive my newbie questions and such a long post)
1) When I want to run PHONE and MESSAGING applications on “Holo launcher” it gives this error message: "This activity cannot be launched". Although stock MIUI icons for these applications work fine.
2) I partitioned my memory card using ClockworkMod recovery and I dedicated 2 Gb’s of my 16 Gb class 10 microSD card (I haven’t had any problem with this recovery so far but if you think it may be incompatible with your ROM or cause issues please let me know and I will replace it). After flashing Ungaze Data2SD I see an increase in the internal memory . To be honest I didn’t completely understand the rest of the instructions so I do not know whether I have done it right or not.
"You can delete the Contents of /mnt/asec/d2sd/data/app/* and /mnt/asec/d2sd/data/data/* from your Device Root which is "/" after this otherwise you will have 2 copies of the same app. You should only have Dalvik-Cache in this location as it links to your Internal Memory Data partition. Make a backup first to your SD Card in case something goes wrong by copying those APKs, then simply Delete them. Your Device System Partition will have System Apps, Data partition will have Dalvik Cache and your SD Card's EXT Partition will have the rest of the Apps and their Data."
This is what I did:
I used “adb shell” to access the contents of those two locations and deleted their contents. As I said before I didn’t understand the rest of the instructions and I assumed it has been done correctly!! Then I installed my apps normally but I do not know whether they have been copied to the internal memory or the memory card. (I have downloaded apk’s of all apps I use from "apps.evozi. /apk-downloader/" or "apk4fun" and I have installed them using package manager).
My main question is what do I do after cleaning up those two locations and how do I install the apps so they will be copied to the memory Card’s Ext partition.
You should only have Dalvik-Cache in this location (What location exactly?)
Your Device System Partition will have System Apps (/system?)
Data partition will have Dalvik Cache (/data?)
SD Card's EXT Partition (/sd-ext?) If I am right as I have “adb” installed on my windows, it doesn’t show me the contents of this folder naturally. I have Ubuntu Linux too but “adb” is not installed on it.
Thanks a lot for your time!
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Thanks a lot for the complete information. Holo launcher and Prevent running are really great. Now only 94 Mb of RAM is used . I expect to have better battery life too. I will report that after some days of using this configuration.
miui_nexus1 said:
Thanks a lot for the complete information. Holo launcher and Prevent running are really great. Now only 94 Mb of RAM is used . I expect to have better battery life too. I will report that after some days of using this configuration.
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Oh lord, might be joining the N1 family due to recent corrupt internal data/EMMC failures on the Sensation and One Mini. Hoping to get a daily ROM and stable service from AT&T. Any critical updates/preventions prior to dusting off 2 years of being shelved and lending to 3 people (aka TANK N1).
Excited to see activity and will give this a shot when I get home. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for posting about Stagefright bug. It seems to be a hell of a bug. I have done all of them except the first one. Could you elaborate on how to edit build.prop?
By the way just a small thing: there is an extra "r" in
3) Use Firefox. Type about:config > Search for Stragefright > Set stagefright.disabled to True
Thanks again.
You're welcome. Enjoy!
lfe.zaius said:
Oh lord, might be joining the N1 family due to recent corrupt internal data/EMMC failures on the Sensation and One Mini. Hoping to get a daily ROM and stable service from AT&T. Any critical updates/preventions prior to dusting off 2 years of being shelved and lending to 3 people (aka TANK N1).
Excited to see activity and will give this a shot when I get home. Thanks for posting!
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You edit build.prop either right on the phone using a text editor, or if you're like me, do it on the computer with Notepad++. It's a text based file. Oh yes, that was a spelling error. Fixed.
miui_nexus1 said:
Thanks for posting about Stagefright bug. It seems to be a hell of a bug. I have done all of them except the first one. Could you elaborate on how to edit build.prop?
By the way just a small thing: there is an extra "r" in
3) Use Firefox. Type about:config > Search for Stragefright > Set stagefright.disabled to True
Thanks again.
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I have opened it using ES file explorer (ES Note editor) on my device but when I want to save it it shows an error:"Error occurred when trying to save the file. It will not be saved.". I have granted Superuser access to ES file explorer but I cannot find a way to give the specified permissions you have mentioned in the post. I would appreciate your help.
First of all, I'd like to say that I'm making this thread after countless hours of hopeless google search and a very short but rude cal with the LG LatAm support.
I got a second hand LG L3 (e400g) as a gift after my previous phone was stolen, I can't really get anything else due to lack of money so I intend to use this little baby for quite some time.
First of all, I noticed it didn't had WhatsApp, which is crucial for my work, or Facebook or Messenger so I went to get them from the Play Store but it always crashed, I found out the phone had no Google Play services so after getting an apk for that and updating the Play Store and trying to download any application the download always said "pending" and nothing happened so I downloaded an Whatsapp apk and tried to install it, but I found out I only had 5 mb of storage free because Play Store + Play Store services had taken 100mb out of the measly 150 mb the phone comes with (the other 45 being occupied with what I guess are system files and stuff.
Alright, didnd't matter, started to look for some help and found out that by rooting the phone I could install custom play store apks that would most likely work and, more importantly, I could delete bloatware and install apps on the 1gb internal and external memories.
I tried to Install the LG drivers but I couldn't make them work on my PC so rooting at home wasn't an option, called LG to ask for help on how to install that but they told me I was a poorfag for purchasing and old second-hand phone and couldn help me (not their exact words but it surely felt like that).
Tried installing the drivers at work and they worked! So i, very happily, tried to finally root my phone using Spectrum Root but it couldn't work either, so I tried SuperOneClick and it didn't work either. I took some screens but currently I'm at home and I forgot to bring them with me but Spectrum couldn't root anything because it "couldn't create directories" and SuperOneClick just froze on the 7th step of shell root.
What can I do? Anything that doesn't involve getting a new phone because honestly this is the only thing I could afford and I won't be able to change phone for some months so any help would be really appreciated.
TL;DR: Phone can't acces play store, stupidly small storage space and there's no apparent way to root it.
DavidRueda said:
First of all, I'd like to say that I'm making this thread after countless hours of hopeless google search and a very short but rude cal with the LG LatAm support.
I got a second hand LG L3 (e400g) as a gift after my previous phone was stolen, I can't really get anything else due to lack of money so I intend to use this little baby for quite some time.
First of all, I noticed it didn't had WhatsApp, which is crucial for my work, or Facebook or Messenger so I went to get them from the Play Store but it always crashed, I found out the phone had no Google Play services so after getting an apk for that and updating the Play Store and trying to download any application the download always said "pending" and nothing happened so I downloaded an Whatsapp apk and tried to install it, but I found out I only had 5 mb of storage free because Play Store + Play Store services had taken 100mb out of the measly 150 mb the phone comes with (the other 45 being occupied with what I guess are system files and stuff.
Alright, didnd't matter, started to look for some help and found out that by rooting the phone I could install custom play store apks that would most likely work and, more importantly, I could delete bloatware and install apps on the 1gb internal and external memories.
I tried to Install the LG drivers but I couldn't make them work on my PC so rooting at home wasn't an option, called LG to ask for help on how to install that but they told me I was a poorfag for purchasing and old second-hand phone and couldn help me (not their exact words but it surely felt like that).
Tried installing the drivers at work and they worked! So i, very happily, tried to finally root my phone using Spectrum Root but it couldn't work either, so I tried SuperOneClick and it didn't work either. I took some screens but currently I'm at home and I forgot to bring them with me but Spectrum couldn't root anything because it "couldn't create directories" and SuperOneClick just froze on the 7th step of shell root.
What can I do? Anything that doesn't involve getting a new phone because honestly this is the only thing I could afford and I won't be able to change phone for some months so any help would be really appreciated.
TL;DR: Phone can't acces play store, stupidly small storage space and there's no apparent way to root it.
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Root the phone with KingoRoot, it worked in my LG Optimus L5 E610/E612(f)...
Install Root Browser or a smaller size root browser app (download through your PC and put it in the phone) and delete some system apps/bloatware and get App2SD to install your apps to SD Card.
iTzMeB1tch3s said:
Root the phone with KingoRoot, it worked in my LG Optimus L5 E610/E612(f)...
Install Root Browser or a smaller size root browser app (download through your PC and put it in the phone) and delete some system apps/bloatware and get App2SD to install your apps to SD Card.
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I'm gonna try that as soon as I go to work tomorrow because that's the only PC I've found that can instal the drivers properly, thanks for the tip!
DavidRueda said:
I'm gonna try that as soon as I go to work tomorrow because that's the only PC I've found that can instal the drivers properly, thanks for the tip!
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No problem!
EDIT: Tell me if it helped!
iTzMeB1tch3s said:
No problem!
EDIT: Tell me if it helped!
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I used kingo root and it was a success, however it didn't install any SU terminal or something like that which made me think the root didn't work. I googled some stuff and found out sometimes while it works it doesn't install the SU terminal so I had to get a 3rd party terminall app, i typed "su" and the "$" changed to a "#" which supposedly means it works. I got App2SD but the only apps it shows to transfer to the SD card are the ones I installed manually, none of the bloatware or default ones. And when I tried to use the terminal to set the default install location the SD card (pm setInstallLocation 2) it apparently didn't work because when I pressed enter to input the code the "#" didn't reappeared and the any other code I used later like "date" or "exit" did nothing either.
DavidRueda said:
I used kingo root and it was a success, however it didn't install any SU terminal or something like that which made me think the root didn't work. I googled some stuff and found out sometimes while it works it doesn't install the SU terminal so I had to get a 3rd party terminall app, i typed "su" and the "$" changed to a "#" which supposedly means it works. I got App2SD but the only apps it shows to transfer to the SD card are the ones I installed manually, none of the bloatware or default ones. And when I tried to use the terminal to set the default install location the SD card (pm setInstallLocation 2) it apparently didn't work because when I pressed enter to input the code the "#" didn't reappeared and the any other code I used later like "date" or "exit" did nothing either.
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Use Root Checker Basic to see if you have rooted it successfully!
Use root browser to free some memory by deleting system apps and then get Ext2SD (I think that's the app's name or whatever), it swaps your SD card's memory with your internal memory, so for example, if you have a SD card with 64gb and you swap memories using the app, you'll get 64gb internal memory, google it!
iTzMeB1tch3s said:
Use Root Checker Basic to see if you have rooted it successfully!
Use root browser to free some memory by deleting system apps and then get Ext2SD (I think that's the app's name or whatever), it swaps your SD card's memory with your internal memory, so for example, if you have a SD card with 64gb and you swap memories using the app, you'll get 64gb internal memory, google it!
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Root checker said yes but I still couldn't use any SU command, so I just did the unthinkable and ran Kingo Root again and it finally worked 100%. But that didn't fixed the whole play store thing so I just flashed the phone and isntalled CM9 and it worked. I can use the play store and download stuff but only the original 2.3.6 one, if I update it it stops working but I don't care and I don't really want to fix that because I may break something else.
Now for the storage, I could finally use App2SD (Which is apparently called Link2SD or something like that because googling App2SD only gave me results of Link2SD) And save a whole lot of space on my phone and could finally install whatsapp and a couple of browsing apps and stuff but I couldn't install for example facebook because, while I could copy like half of the app to the SD I couldn't copy the data folder.
I searched for your app's name in your previous post but It turns out Ext2SD isn't an app but rather something like a partition format so I got a partition app and partitioned half of the Internal SD but it couldn't copy anything there and I couldn't recover the space either so half the internal memory is kinda dead now. Is there any way to fix this and to have some more storage space without breaking the phone?
DavidRueda said:
Root checker said yes but I still couldn't use any SU command, so I just did the unthinkable and ran Kingo Root again and it finally worked 100%. But that didn't fixed the whole play store thing so I just flashed the phone and isntalled CM9 and it worked. I can use the play store and download stuff but only the original 2.3.6 one, if I update it it stops working but I don't care and I don't really want to fix that because I may break something else.
Now for the storage, I could finally use App2SD (Which is apparently called Link2SD or something like that because googling App2SD only gave me results of Link2SD) And save a whole lot of space on my phone and could finally install whatsapp and a couple of browsing apps and stuff but I couldn't install for example facebook because, while I could copy like half of the app to the SD I couldn't copy the data folder.
I searched for your app's name in your previous post but It turns out Ext2SD isn't an app but rather something like a partition format so I got a partition app and partitioned half of the Internal SD but it couldn't copy anything there and I couldn't recover the space either so half the internal memory is kinda dead now. Is there any way to fix this and to have some more storage space without breaking the phone?
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I don't know... Try searching in the internet or just reflash CM9 and see if the partitions are fixed.