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First of all lets not turn this into a war of the mobile OS's....Everyone has their own oppinions and needs, which is why there will NEVER be a definitive answer to the Question: Which is better, WinMo or Android? So please dont start flamewars or fanboy arguments in this thread.
The purpose of this poll is to determine how many of you will be 'switching' to Android on a pemanent basis, and how many of you will be sticking with Windows Mobile in some capacity.
I ask this because originally when I first tested Android, I envisaged myself sticking with Windows Mobile when a flashable Android ROM was released.
Then as great progress began to be made with the AndroidHD2 development, I began to think that windows was dead to me and I eagerly awaited the NAND version of Android.
Now I am beginning to think that I might stick with a dual boot option even when the NAND version comes. Ideally I would like to have Android as my flashed ROM with a version of WM 6.5.x running from SD as a dual boot option.
So... When the NAND Flashable version of Android for HD2 comes...What will you do?
(I know this should be in the 'General HD2 Android' section but there isn't one...yet. Mods, please move when possible).
I like the widgets and backgrounds, android is just so much easier.
But for tomtom, I'll still be using my winmo. Some stuff just req windows to function.
So, best of both worlds, I guess..
If i can still retain WinMo then sure, why not... but if it's not possible then i'll stick to the Micro SD card. I wouldn't want to give up my ability to dual boot.
The Android builds are fast enough anyways on the card and i'm sure a class 6 Micro SD will be faster than the NAND anyways.
As well as in PCs, having dual boot means you can use both OSes Apps. So I will stick to dual boot.
I plan on buying the next big android phone tmobile and htc come up with (and i have a nexus one), so my hope for the hd2 is flashing wp7. I dont know if you nand flash if you would be able to flash wp7 if there are gonna be wp7 roms.
ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!
THANHVO31 said:
ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!
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Now THATS what Im talkin about!
Even the iOS4 might make it onto my card if a version was ever released for HD2...one more app store cant hurt
Here's the thing
If we flash Android to nand, will there be any going back? Will there ever be updates to future versions of android? This is the primary thing to me, if the dev's will continue to upgrade Android for future versions then I might flash, but if it's kind of a one and done, I'd probably stick with dual booting. I'm also hoping that there is eventually a wp7 port for the hd2 as well...
I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a class 6 card to keep dualboot, what do u guys think about the performance difference between NAND and Class 6?
HectiQ said:
I like the widgets and backgrounds, android is just so much easier.
But for tomtom, I'll still be using my winmo. Some stuff just req windows to function.
So, best of both worlds, I guess..
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same for me, the other gps software are.... not as good and easy as tomtom.
I will use Winmo for tomtom only and the rest on android
maybe tomtom release a android version
THANHVO31 said:
ANDROID: NAND
WINMO:SD card
Ubuntu: SD card
iOS4: SD card
and I wish having a new bootloader possible to select before splashscreen.
Cheer!
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Would it ever be possible to have iOS on a hd2? That would be great for all the extra apps.
I am happy with Android on SD card and dual booting.
I prefer the functionality of a dual boot, but in appealability I would much prefer to run Android as a day to day phone when the nand is finally ported. But I wouldn't jump in feet first,I'd hope that it was totally reversible and not flash back & forth,just that winmo could stay as an option to return to. And that the devs can continue to feed us with fresher versions when they become available.
umiss said:
I'm thinking if it's worth investing in a class 6 card to keep dualboot, what do u guys think about the performance difference between NAND and Class 6?
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And I'm thinking there is a different thread on that subject
i prefer winmo over the android , im returning to winmo , its just my openion :!
Bye bye winmo
The only thing that winmo is doing in my phone right now is to help me to run haret.
sure i would flash it, just to satisfy my curiosity, but i would eventually stick with dual booting winmo and android on SD.
NAND is so close....the Devs are finishing the structure port...them is a question of work to give the polish in all.
today the dev work is located on leds notification.
were is the status thread?
for the poll, I will make what turns more eficient the performance of Android....including the question of baterie life, very important.
pack21 said:
NAND is so close....the Devs are finishing the structure port...them is a question of work to give the polish in all.
today the dev work is located on leds notification.
were is the status thread?
for the poll, I will make what turns more eficient the performance of Android....including the question of baterie life, very important.
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This is great news! i really do start reading the dev channel logs to keep up to date
triple booting
i am sticking with triplebooting android ,ubuntu,winmo.i am using a class 4 card and the speed is great,moving up to class 6 .my hd2 with android scores better than my brothers evo on linpack,and quadrant.
At the moment I will stay on dual boot. Cant wait for a really stable Android for HD2 If we can get TomTom or iGO8 on Android then i will go with it on NAND.
hay guys sorry id some of you get mad for me posting this here but this is the only place i know my qustion will get answered. OK im new to the windows phone deal. i have a mytouch slide and a g1 rooted so i under that hole part here is my ?.
From what i have read on the forums only build roms work with the hd2. well i would like to put android on it but after looking around most the roms on here and the links on here for putting android on the phone all lead to the LEO forum is the correct or no if not can someone tell me were to get the most resent android rom for the hd2 usa, now there seems to be two ways of installing it one is from sd card and 2 is from boot i would like to do it from boot any help would be grate thanks all and happy modding
Someone correct me if I am wrong...
There are not TWO ways of doing android.
Android is ALWAYS installed on the SD card. The only way to "boot" to it is to have your WM configured to boot the two files from your SD card required to run it, in essence there are a few apps that can do this at WM startup.
You will still need an Android friendly Windows Mobile ROM, so the stock from will not work. You also need a compatible radio.
I would check out the HD2 Android Dev forum for more info though.
JonSolo said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong...
There are not TWO ways of doing android.
Android is ALWAYS installed on the SD card. The only way to "boot" to it is to have your WM configured to boot the two files from your SD card required to run it, in essence there are a few apps that can do this at WM startup.
You will still need an Android friendly Windows Mobile ROM, so the stock from will not work. You also need a compatible radio.
I would check out the HD2 Android Dev forum for more info though.
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The Android port cannot replace the WinMo OS just yet. The only way is to install it to your SD Card and it will run off of that. There are apps that allow you to choose between WinMo and Android on bootup. The LEO Android forum is correct since Android builds do not matter which device it is booted on.
Android is able to run on the Stock ROM, but people have said it runs better with a different ROM/Radio.
The build I recommend is Energy ROM / Radio 2.12.50.02_2 and an Android Build of your choice, but you can always run it on the Stock if you feel like it.
gaarry said:
The build I recommend is Energy ROM / Radio 2.12.50.02_2 and an Android Build of your choice, but you can always run it on the Stock if you feel like it.
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+1 EnergyROM w/ 2.12.50.02 radio works very nicely for me.
pactive73 said:
can someone tell me were to get the most resent android rom for the hd2 usa
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I would look Here (FroyoStone thread) first and see how you like it. Latest release Sep 2nd.
Also when you download the Rom your prob wanna need the rmnt version. Froyostone is the best my far for me and bootloaders are for people with more then one Android Rom on there sdcard
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Im not new to flashing but im new to Android and im wondering if its something for me.
My general use of my phone is fun and good looking style. Games and apps are mostly what i use my phone for.
Seen the Desire in work and im also wondering if these HD2 android ROM's are just as fast and smooth as on the Desire?
Ps. Sorry for asking something that might have allready been answered but this forum is so huge its almost impossible to find the right answer
I already changed to Android for one.
It's pretty stable and almost everything works, with some minor bugs here and there..
I suggest you simpy try it by downloading one of the ROMS in the Android section (preferably the HD-series, MDJ v4.3 is a good start)and trying it for some time..
You haven't got anything to loose, as it's as simple as copying over the contents of the choosen ROM's RAR file to your SD card, then tapping clrcad.exe and then haret.exe.
When you reboot you have your phone back in it's original state.
Sounds both very easy and great.
Thanks for the reply.
Hi all,
I am absolutely new in this world of Android ROM's and have respect for those guys who are able to make Android work on the HD2 but I have a question.
Is it ever going to be possible to flash an Android ROM on the HTC HD2 so it is permanently installed so overwriting Windows Mobile?
dude... check the sticky:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817261
in short, yes it should be coming soon, but it's possible that it will take some more time for NAND roms (internal memory "install") to be better/faster/more complete than SD
Hi,
Okay, thanks. Would be great when they succeed flashing an Android ROM on the HD2.
Now I got the taste of Android I don't want to go back to Windows. There is so much more possible with Android. Tons of apps and really nice looking and usefull apps.
Hi All,
Can we use the System.img released with NAND roms as an SD build?
I see many nice builds released right now for NAND, and a decrease in SD builds. I prefer to use SD based builds -> any solution?
--summoner
summoner said:
Hi All,
Can we use the System.img released with NAND roms as an SD build?
I see many nice builds released right now for NAND, and a decrease in SD builds. I prefer to use SD based builds -> any solution?
--summoner
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There is a decrease because the NAND versions are so darn perfect and solid. I am assuming you want to continue with SD versions to keep WM 6.5 as a dual boot option? If not, then just do a NAND flash and use your SD card for what it was intended for, mass storage! NAND is the way to go, SD card is so last year! Lol!
I've actually been searching for the last couple of days for the complete opposite, converting a sd version to a nand. Already found the wonderful world of nand converting to cwm.
i would like to stick with sd version as i still havent found a fully satisfied version...i am wondering does nand will work way better and stable than sd version? because im keep changing different build to test which one is the best one out of them.
Its a matter of opinion, you have to at least have a base of what your looking for, for example, I like sense builds, not many are out there, but I try them, they all have their pros and cons, its what you can live with and what you cant. Or as many have said, make your own. I got into doing that with WinMo when I didnt like much of the builds out there. Now I may just read up on seeing about making my own build for myself.
But in short, have a base of what your looking for and go from there.
i tried to extract the system.img and put the files into a generated system.ext2, the process was successful, but the system.ext2 wont boot, it kept rebooting.
maybe there's another way to do this
Thanks for all the replies!
1. I like having both Winmo and Android although I do currently use Android more
2. I Am sure NAND builds are super-best-good-times, but I like flashing to have the latest and greatest and find it a big benefit to have WinMo at the backseat
3. Any success with this? are the kernels released for NAND compatible with SD?
It seems that most builds and work is on NAND builds I hope SD and RAM builds (which I think are the best of all worlds) won't be abandoned.
--summoner
I am also interested in this
I am also interested in doing this. I need to still have my WinMo 6.5 so I can sync my work schedule (ANDROID is NOT supported or allowed) and I have notice a significant Lag in the GPS apps I have tried (IGO, and Aura) on a NAND ROM. If any chef has the time to walk me through it I would greatly appreciate it.
I'm using WP7 and duel boot with Android on SD, I will be returning to Android Nand as my main OS, but I will still test Android SD builds booting from Magldr. The SD forum has slowed down, so I would like to convert nand to sd also. Hopefully someone will find a solution soon. Why not have the best of both. When Magdlr 1.13 comes out, there will proberbly be more interest in this area.
i would also like to do this. because there is some nand roms i would like to convert for my personal use. please someone point us in the right direction.
ok im new and a friend of mind had a sd android on my hd2 now i want the realthing in nand how do i do this, sorry but my friend who did this for me in the begining past away so now im trying (rip gary)
phonegod said:
ok im new and a friend of mind had a sd android on my hd2 now i want the realthing in nand how do i do this, sorry but my friend who did this for me in the begining past away so now im trying (rip gary)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
this helped me
I, too, am interested in such a conversion (NAND ROM to SD ROM).
If there is not already an app, there will be. After all, this is XDA.
Actually guys.. you should have used the search box!
Here's a way to do that