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HTC HD2 doesn't qualify for a Windows Phone 7 Upgrade

Bad news for the HTC HD2 owners: your beloved WinMo smartphones does not qualify for a Windows Phone 7 upgrade. The reason is more than ridiculous but you can't do anything to change the situation: the HD2 packs five hardware buttons instead of only 3.

tomohdi said:
Bad news for the HTC HD2 owners: your beloved WinMo smartphones does not qualify for a Windows Phone 7 upgrade. The reason is more than ridiculous but you can't do anything to change the situation: the HD2 packs five hardware buttons instead of only 3.
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not true a big misleading fact or confused fact..
requirement is of 3 navigation buttons winlogo start, back and search. ur common send and end buttions doesnt count.
HD2 also has 3 navigation buttons but instead of search it has home. and thats the problem.
very similar to what 6.5 done to HD as it didnt had logo start but diamond2 has that and got official 6.5.
hope ppl understand now.

I'll have to disagree that the HD2's buttons is a "problem". Microsoft's excuse is pretty lame. What's so hard about remapping the home button to search ?
Buttons in WM are all mappable via software or firmware. At this point,MS is just being non-committal, and hope that HD2 users will upgrade to new WM7 phones.
Well, I think MS is making a mistake. HD2 users will have no incentive to remain with WM if they have to ditch their HD2 to buy a new phone. They could easily jump to Android, or iPhone.
atifsh said:
not true a big misleading fact or confused fact..
requirement is of 3 navigation buttons winlogo start, back and search. ur common send and end buttions doesnt count.
HD2 also has 3 navigation buttons but instead of search it has home. and thats the problem.
very similar to what 6.5 done to HD as it didnt had logo start but diamond2 has that and got official 6.5.
hope ppl understand now.
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tomohdi said:
Bad news for the HTC HD2 owners: your beloved WinMo smartphones does not qualify for a Windows Phone 7 upgrade. The reason is more than ridiculous but you can't do anything to change the situation: the HD2 packs five hardware buttons instead of only 3.
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don't worry, i'm sure, xda developers people can handle it!

Shouldn't this be in the HD2 forum not HD!

Don't worry I don't believe HTC would upgrade an "old" device when WP7S comes out

afr33s said:
Shouldn't this be in the HD2 forum not HD!
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My thoughts exactly!

Whatever... HD doesn't qualify either...

Bodisson said:
Whatever... HD doesn't qualify either...
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Haha, After HD, I am done with HTC already.

And I was considering buying the HD2 today. Not going to happen, I won't make the same mistake twice.

If anyone wants the full details, read this

Please close as irrelevant to HD ROM cooking!

HTC touch HD doesnt qualify for WM6.5.x either - AND SO WHAT WE'VE GOT??
Big deal - I belive, there will be WP7 even for HTC touch HD - thanks to smart guys from XDA

Fallen Spartan said:
If anyone wants the full details, read this
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No comment, and thanks for all of you for your comment.

the_bart123 said:
HTC touch HD doesnt qualify for WM6.5.x either - AND SO WHAT WE'VE GOT??
Big deal - I belive, there will be WP7 even for HTC touch HD - thanks to smart guys from XDA
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me too , it save us a lot of money

Close, close, close this irrelevant thread

**waits for wp7s touch HD rom**

Don't have to wait that long!
A scent of Win7 is already here for those who are so enthusiastic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5740297#post5740297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5757421&postcount=1
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bahrami_a said:
A scent of Win7 is already here for those who are so enthusiastic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5740297#post5740297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5757421&postcount=1
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why dont u guys just stop posting instead of shouting close close
oh i just posted ...oops

This is really old news and I'm not saying it's wrong, but I'm not saying it's right. Although there might not be an official update for hd2 from htc or your carrier, changing the mapping of 3 buttons to support an os is not the hardest thing in the world. Also, Win7 has been seen running on HD2 at Barcelona, so if they could do it, I'm positive xda will have no problem.
Andy why is this in the HD forum and not HD2?

Android ROM for HD2 is it possible

Hi all,
i would like to ask about have any Android Rom for HD2 ???
If using winmo to boot android i feel abit lag and not like real android.
Android ROM for HD2 is it possible for now or future??
please advice......

No, it's not possible yet. They still use WinMo to initialize some components.. more development is needed before it's possible.... but it is still real android. Windows Mobile is shut down completely and the linux kernel is booted to allow android to load.

android works at that status u said but its run abit slow. any ideas for that ??

It isn't slow for me. That's even on my 16 gig class 2. Try a faster sd card. Btw what build did you use
sent from my hd2 , thanks dcordes, cotulla and darkstone

hazard99 said:
It isn't slow for me. That's even on my 16 gig class 2. Try a faster sd card. Btw what build did you use
sent from my hd2 , thanks dcordes, cotulla and darkstone
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agree...if don't like Android,you can change to WM anytime

cotulla says the eta for nand boot is in september

Where did you get this Intel?
This would be a major break trough! I mean revolutionary!
Comparable to like the Luna landing!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

23:29 Microang cotulla: oh nand for hd2 is going to be by you then? eta?
23:30 Cotulla lol
23:30 ellisway SlayerNS lol at your comment from earlier on about dcordes gonna get a ban from his host
23:30 Cotulla [acl]
23:30 Cotulla I found 1 ref
23:30 [acl] Cotulla: Do tell
23:30 SlayerNS yeah ellis
23:30 Cotulla ^_^
23:30 Cotulla Microang, September+

Is Cotulla serious? Or is he mindducking us?
If it's for real he will be thee man! And deserves respect! He is boldly going we no other xda developer has gone before.
I hope that this is going to be twittered somewhere....
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

pi_mento said:
Where did you get this Intel?
This would be a major break trough! I mean revolutionary!
Comparable to like the Luna landing!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Luna landings are nothing compared to a NAND BUILD!!!!!
I get the feeling out chain is being yanked though.

pi_mento said:
Is Cotulla serious? Or is he mindducking us?
If it's for real he will be thee man! And deserves respect! He is boldly going we no other xda developer has gone before.
I hope that this is going to be twittered somewhere....
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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lonelykatana said:
Luna landings are nothing compared to a NAND BUILD!!!!!
I get the feeling out chain is being yanked though.
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he is being serious, that wasn't the first time he said it

JJbdoggg said:
he is being serious, that wasn't the first time he said it
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Thanks for the confirmation

lonelykatana said:
Thanks for the confirmation
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no probs

JJbdoggg said:
he is being serious, that wasn't the first time he said it
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This is just a dream come true....
Android should have been native to the HD2 from the beginning! Depriving europe of a EVO 4G-like phone was a big mistake made by HTC and European providers.
Good thing that XDA has the best Dev's around!

pi_mento said:
This is just a dream come true....
Android should have been native to the HD2 from the beginning! Depriving europe of a EVO 4G-like phone was a big mistake made by HTC and European providers.
Good thing that XDA has the best Dev's around!
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Ill second that!!!
Android should have been the Base standard rom for the Leo!

alltechdownloads.blogspot.com fake? real?

law16 said:
alltechdownloads.blogspot.com fake? real?
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fake
its just photos and been long time in that site nothing changed in that yet
this just for letting people go download and before download you have to do some ads filling to be able to download after you see the installer is fake!!
don't trust any one else just xda they are the best

waeel87 said:
fake
its just photos and been long time in that site nothing changed in that yet
this just for letting people go download and before download you have to do some ads filling to be able to download after you see the installer is fake!!
don't trust any one else just xda they are the best
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I figured, but I did get excited for a second

Personally i prefer dual boot system.I like also wm and android and if htc wanted would give us officially this thing.China e-shops sell devices like diamond 2 clone with htc logo on it that runs wm and android with hardware a lot times lower than the hardware of hd2..I cant believe that htc has not the technology to give us a full working dual boot rom for hd2 ,but they are not going to do it....

clio94 said:
Personally i prefer dual boot system.I like also wm and android and if htc wanted would give us officially this thing.China e-shops sell devices like diamond 2 clone with htc logo on it that runs wm and android with hardware a lot times lower than the hardware of hd2..I cant believe that htc has not the technology to give us a full working dual boot rom for hd2 ,but they are not going to do it....
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It has nothing to do with technology or knowhow, it's all got to do with money and willing to see an opportunity and taking it!
HTC and the European providers missed out on this one.

[Q] HTC Wildfire S

I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.

guus_1995 said:
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.

After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.

Just for the new sense
argeoff said:
If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD

Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App

CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic

guus_1995 said:
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.

guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars

soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.

It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.

guus_1995 said:
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!

why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?

Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch

guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!

djdevine2 said:
Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway

guus_1995 said:
Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear

maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.

Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."

(q) desire hd Vs. hd2

very similar on specs but can anyone that has actually owned or used both give a proper comparison? got a dhd atm but is it worth swapping for multiple os the hd2 can run.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA Premium App

twiztedvvv said:
very similar on specs but can anyone that has actually owned or used both give a proper comparison? got a dhd atm but is it worth swapping for multiple os the hd2 can run.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA Premium App
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Depends on what ur looking for... if u want to be able to use WM7 and android this is the only device that can run both atm.
The HD is a very good device and runs both OS's very smooth.
If i were u i would stick to your Desire HD as the specs are better and the device will be more supported in the future as the HD2 is getting older now and wont receive any (official) updates anymore.
WM7 cannot even do multitasking untill end of this year... and by then google will release android ice cream sandwich anyway.
I personally would stick to android, WM7 is just not worth it (yet).

ok. thanks very much for your reply.
i was locking more at running ubuntu. the devs on the dhd have done a brilliant job. but its not functional enough for proper use.
have you run ubuntu on your hd2? if so how does it perform for useability? ie. smS, calls and 3g data
thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA Premium App

Sorry, i did not use the Ubuntu build on my hd2 but im interested in experimenting with it too.
I think i just will get a 2nd HD2 as they r very cheap on the 2nd hand market just to fiddle around with ubuntu, meego etc...
Other people can correct me if im wrong but i dont think it would be interesting for daily use (yet) (from the smartphone point of view)

michie said:
Sorry, i did not use the Ubuntu build on my hd2 but im interested in experimenting with it too.
I think i just will get a 2nd HD2 as they r very cheap on the 2nd hand market just to fiddle around with ubuntu, meego etc...
Other people can correct me if im wrong but i dont think it would be interesting for daily use (yet) (from the smartphone point of view)
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yeah i agree. i might get one as a Znd phone to play around with.
thanks for your help
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA Premium App

i think this is unfair since the desire is latest than hd2 but i think if they were made at same period it would be a split since desire is android and hd2 is windows anyways they have the same screen and speed

michie said:
Depends on what ur looking for... if u want to be able to use WM7 and android this is the only device that can run both atm.
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WM7 does not exist. Its WP7!
michie said:
The HD is a very good device and runs both OS's very smooth.
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You mean the HD2!
michie said:
If i were u i would stick to your Desire HD as the specs are better
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They are barely different. Basically the same with small differences.
michie said:
and the device will be more supported in the future as the HD2 is getting older now and wont receive any (official) updates anymore.
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Who cares about official updates when you have a dev community as big as the HD2 on XDA?
michie said:
WM7 cannot even do multitasking untill end of this year...
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No such thing as WM7.
michie said:
and by then google will release android ice cream sandwich anyway.
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And I 100% guarantee you that ICS will be available on the HD2 before the DHD
michie said:
I personally would stick to android, WM7 is just not worth it (yet).
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Nah, sell the DHD and get a HD2, basically same hardware and much more choice

TheATHEiST said:
WM7 does not exist. Its WP7!
You mean the HD2!
They are barely different. Basically the same with small differences.
Who cares about official updates when you have a dev community as big as the HD2 on XDA?
No such thing as WM7.
And I 100% guarantee you that ICS will be available on the HD2 before the DHD
Nah, sell the DHD and get a HD2, basically same hardware and much more choice
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Doesnt matter how its called, everyone knows what im talking about + i did mean updates from rom cookers OR official updates, thats why i pu it between ().
Besides if HTC doesnt release official updates the community wont have updated kernels to work with.
The point of my post was : why sell the HD if you can have both

HTC Sense 4 on Htc HD2 ?

I've seen a news about Htc Sense 4 .
Come it on Htc Hd2 ?
I hope ?

We are still waiting for the RUU from the HTC One V
(It has the closet hardware with our HD2)

Yo
HTC One X kicks HD2 very deeply in the ass. Sense will never work on HD2 smoothly like on HTC One X. Go find some work, earn money and buy a good phone.

mehmetalierbil said:
HTC One X kicks HD2 very deeply in the ass. Sense will never work on HD2 smoothly like on HTC One X. Go find some work, earn money and buy a good phone.
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Why reopen an old thread unnecessarily in order to post a rather stupid response (buy a new phone is hardly useful to him, the first part might have been but there's no need to be a twat about it) and clutter up the forum?
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA

Yes mate open the NAND development and there is a DEV forum about it, no working ROM yet but you can have a butchers at that
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i think maybe. As we can see, rightnow, with sense 3.5 tweak, HD2 work fine. And i think sense 4.0 is work as well. But the thing is we need time to make it work fast and perfect Just wait, maybe next month.

mehmetalierbil said:
HTC One X kicks HD2 very deeply in the ass. Sense will never work on HD2 smoothly like on HTC One X. Go find some work, earn money and buy a good phone.
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I believe it is not about buying a new phone but about developing something so it works on our phone, keeping our beloved HD2 alive. Anyways this is a Development forum, so please be nice to each other

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1658936:)

mehmetalierbil said:
HTC One X kicks HD2 very deeply in the ass. Sense will never work on HD2 smoothly like on HTC One X. Go find some work, earn money and buy a good phone.
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Nonsense, plus he was talking about One V. I think HD2 is the longest lasting phone ever by seeing its development.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda premium

ammar.3a said:
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I already stated this just a few posts above, but please don't unnecessarily reopen old threads, even if you're trying to get 10 posts. Try wherever possible to use your knowledge to help people with problems they have right now, rather than ones solved months ago

Install "Go Launcher EX".
Go and search "HTC Sense 4" in market (Play Store).
Enjoy.

It's not sure yet. DEVs are working on this. Hope they will pass some basic hurdle. But yes it's booting you can find ICS sense 4 in DEV section. It's not for daily use but you can flash it and see how it looks.

Helpe!
Hello, could someone help me?
I have a HTC Sence, OS Version 5.2.21913 ROM 3.14.531.1 T-Moble Vesão. I wonder if you can put a more recent update, or if you can put some android. And how can I do this procedure.
Thanks to anyone who can help me. thank you

Jales Rodrigues said:
Hello, could someone help me?
I have a HTC Sence, OS Version 5.2.21913 ROM 3.14.531.1 T-Moble Vesão. I wonder if you can put a more recent update, or if you can put some android. And how can I do this procedure.
Thanks to anyone who can help me. thank you
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how about you follow the rules you read and use the search function

Jales Rodrigues said:
Hello, could someone help me?
I have a HTC Sence, OS Version 5.2.21913 ROM 3.14.531.1 T-Moble Vesão. I wonder if you can put a more recent update, or if you can put some android. And how can I do this procedure.
Thanks to anyone who can help me. thank you
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As Kam said, reading and searching would easily have given you the answer. Just follow the guide in my sig to flash NAND Android, it's very simple.

You've got still Sense 3.5 on EnergyROM by NRGZ28