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This might be a rant, so I apologist up front but..........
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
What I was hoping is that it could see the operating system and effectively act as a monitor and therefore a portable computer.
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Another trick dell have missed
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Maybe someone can write an app like they did for the DroidX that outputs everything you see on the screen.
Fazziebear said:
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
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This is what majority of owners want - to watch a movie on TV and play some music.
The ability to have desktop on TV is useless for them - you cannot touch TV screen to press a button anyway...
But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
I also have 3 devices for watching films on my tv (cable, ps3 and dvd player) why do I need another one. But if I could replace them with something better I would.
The present function is not better but in fact worse as I have remotes for my other players
Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
Short sighted developers and a lack of understanding of what is possible is the only thing blocking it.
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Fazziebear said:
But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
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But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
The desktop on TV is pointless...
Fazziebear said:
Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
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You don't have to convince me that it is nice use case.
I am only saying that from Dell point of view it is so rare, that it's not worth working on it. ROI is to low.
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.
it would be preferable if the screen stayed "on" the telly (or monitor?) for everything though - saves going back and forth between the two screens. Can understand why it's not a priority for Dell though, but I think they'd sell more docks if it DID do full output....i'd probably buy one then!
I presume it's not possible for someone to develop something?..............
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But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
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Not really, The streak becomes the remote for the screen. Keyboard and track pad.
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smokku said:
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.
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Defo support bluetooth keyboard, not too bothered for a mouse, defo support an output to monitor.
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I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.
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I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.
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+1 In a New York minute.
Full HDMI support and BT Keyboard and Mouse! This combo will be the best! Just add a 42" flat tv and you've got a good everyday PC for multimedia, internet, email an so much more!
So HTC Desire HD announced
But without HDMI Output
Bad news
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Yes, BAD news...
Maybe it has to do with the new DLNA capabilies and the new DLNA accesorie that let's you see DLNA content from the phone on non DLNA compatible TVs
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Yes, BAD news...
Maybe it has to do with the new DLNA capabilies and the new DLNA accesorie that let's you see DLNA content from the phone on non DLNA compatible TVs
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Yes I bet that is the reason
Iosu
Still this is really bad and mostley booring!
I want an tv-out. How else am I suppose to play
emulatorgames on a tv or just bring my phone to a friend
and watch a move I have brought with me?
If Im supposed to have a DLNA-box with me I could just as well
bring my DVD or blueray player (even tough the HTC DLNA-box is small)
DLAN is the reason why
its all wireless, HTC also reviled a box for DLAN adaption if you computer does not have it built in.
i think its got it pro and its cons
the pro is its wireless the cons is that you would have to bring the box with you if you went to a friends house
Well, I hope they will eventually announce a HDMI adapter. DLNA is no way a replacement for the HDMI out. It is able to play multimedia, but cloning/redirecting the Android UI is a no go with DLNA. Stupid move from HTC
DLNA is a Very CLEVER SMART Move from HTC Not for kids though.
Enjoy the future of wireless. How do you think you will lay on coach and play movie from the phone ? 3 Meters long cable ??! That is a no-no!
Instead of blaming HTC just "think again", like National Geographic channel says.
but you dont have to have one or another, do you? And besides how many people have DNLA TVs in comparison to those with HDMI TVs?
By next year the Desire HD will be replaced with a new generation of phones, so there's really no point having early adoptions of technologies which arent already widespread before the device becomes obsolete.
Its a shame, I'd consider replacing my HD2 with a desire HD because of the improved performance and power consumption, but the lack of HDMI out (which was an attraction of the EVO4G) makes it a less attractive upgrade.
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And besides how many people have DNLA TVs in comparison to those with HDMI TVs?
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You can buy HTC DNLA-to-HDMI small device. The future if technologies is - everything wireless.
arcades said:
You can buy HTC DNLA-to-HDMI small device. The future if technologies is - everything wireless.
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So, you say it is possible to replicate UI actions without encoding a virtual framebuffer to conform DLNA? And losing serious performance and rendering quality in the process?
Enlighten us how!!!
And, since you mentioned, also explain how many kids you observed demonstrating a running app to, lets say, an university audience. I happen to do such childish things.
Think about this way....at least you wont have the 30fps cap issue the evo has.....
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Think about this way....at least you wont have the 30fps cap issue the evo has.....
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cap still not fixed on Evo??
this basically stopped me getting the phone.
t-mobile... upgrade waiting... desire hd coming to t-mobile... but screw it ill just get my mum a new phone and stay with my hd2
why? cos they didnt wanna put hdmi...
i dont want a wireless box, or to use a wireless standard nobody has.
i just want to plug in an hdmi cable and see whatever it on my screen on the tv as well. like most normal people want.
htc knows this is a very good feature, so obviously they will not put it in a phone that they think can sell without it.
htc seem to have a bit of a problem with hitting the right spot. they dont realise that making the ultimate phone will NOT cut into their own sales, but would rather encourage people with similar phones to upgrade again. selling their old phones (hd2 in my case) to someone else (also beneficial as increases htc market share) and also those many people that want a smartphone but have gone with other brands. so many people would switch from samsung, nokia, sony ericsson, iphone etc giving short term AND long term benefits for themselves (and us)
remember the crap we had to take before we got a damn 3.5mm headphone socket back lol.
htc's policies of feature rotation and staggering is the real cause of htc sales eating into themselves
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Think about this way....at least you wont have the 30fps cap issue the evo has.....
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Well, the EVO cap is fixed now.
What remains is... a mystery, that why HTC decided to skimp on that ONE dollar HDMI out part
BTW I prefer the plastic casing of the EVO over metal casing of the dHD. Less prone to scratches, lighter (the casing is lighter, not the actual device with the 4G radio), and plastic never interferes with antennae.
The dHD is super-expensive compared to the EVO (and the HD2). I am inclined to get a HD2 (w/ Android) instead of the dHD.
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Lets start a list of all the things we want to change on the DHD then we will mail it to HTC and they will change it. Right?
Here's what I want to change
1. I want the 12mp Camera with xenon flash and Carl Z. lens from the Nokia N8
2. HDMI port
Why would you want > MP?
This is a phone, not a camera. NOT the other way around.
You might eventually want > optical zoom.
Why would you want HDMI when you have DLNA?
As begin, I thought Desire is an Awesome Phone. but still got some concern.
1. I would reckon a dedicated button, for camera or another specific apps.
2. No face detection on the camera apps. even Galaxy S does.
3. havent seen the voice command feature on the specification.
4. no front cam and cannot make video call. It's really SAD for a high end mobile phone.
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Why would you want HDMI when you have DLNA?
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Maybe his TV doesn't support DLNA?
I think streaming with DLNA is much more comfortable, because there is no cable between tv and smartphone. Think about a 1m HDMI calbe to your 52" tv...
arpaul said:
As begin, I thought Desire is an Awesome Phone. but still got some concern.
4. no front cam and cannot make video call. It's really SAD for a high end mobile phone.
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Didnt realize people actually used that... Had it on my four previous phones and never used it once...
But something i would like if i had to change something would have to be a bigger battery and a mini USB instead of a micro USB... But thats about it!
Relistic and changes optical ball better camera
You don't want more MP you want a bigger sensor. This is all the fault of the big camera makers touting MP as the be all and end all to sell cameras.
My SLR is only 10MP and takes phenomenal images because the sensor is much much bigger than any phone on the market.
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You don't want more MP you want a bigger sensor. This is all the fault of the big camera makers touting MP as the be all and end all to sell cameras.
My SLR is only 10MP and takes phenomenal images because the sensor is much much bigger than any phone on the market.
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+1...even 5MPx is enought but with bigger sensor and faster chip...
Id have the audio jack at the top rather than the bottom. Thats about it.
I would say HDMI but the amout of times id acctualy use it is slim to non lol
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To add to the camera improvements the camera is all about its ability to gather light so id want :-
--Larger scensor sizw
--Better optics (a camera is only as good as its optics
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Only one..
The phone to be in flippin hand!!
Have dual core processor, maybe a tegra 2 or 3...
Have USB 3.0
Have HDMI, yes HDMI!!!, my tv and receiver have loads of them, and it's better to send things over HDMI than over DNLA... consume less battery, it's much faster, doesn't lag (only if your phone lags itself)
Better optics (don't need more Mpx, 5 or 6mpx is enough!!) and maybe optical zoom (digital zoom sucks!!!)
More internal storage (32GB at least!!!)
Maybe support for SDXC
Front Camera, yes we need 3G video calls (not that crap from Apple or ip video calls!!). I don't use it, but we never know when we may need it, in some case of emergency like a theft, kidnapping, natural disaster, etc... it can be very useful in those cases, you never know...
Im not really worried about camera quality... so for me:
- HDMI port (saves money, wouldnt have to buy DLNA adapter for telly)
- AMOLED screen (I no its 'over saturated' but it still looks good )
- To get an official gingerbread update (but then again, the devs here on xda will sort out a ROM for it anyway )
The smartphone makers will never release a phone that has verything, they wouldn`t have anything to release after a few months
For me, i would be happy with a phone that has:
- Se X10i battery (Li-Po, lasts even 4 days with moderate usage)
- SGS Screen (ya! SAMOLED with Gorilla Glass=nice! )
- DHD body (looks nice, no glossy plastic that atracts finger prints like magnet, as my SGS does)
- N8 camera (not because of MPs, but for the large sensor and for the audio quality of videos, i know, the sound is not from the camera )
- iphone 4 audio performance (i don`t believe i said iphone but i got to say it, it has a great sound quality)
That`s about it from what I can think of now.
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- To get an official gingerbread update (but then again, the devs here on xda will sort out a ROM for it anyway )
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who said it wont get 3.0 (gingerbread) ?
Im almost 100% shure HTC will give this device that update :-D
Personally, I'd want:
- A battery that lasts at least 2 days without charge
- Gorilla Glass!
- HDMI
adwinp said:
Why would you want > MP?
This is a phone, not a camera. NOT the other way around.
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Some people want the best of both worlds (even though personally I think 8MP is perfectly adequate) !
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Why would you want HDMI when you have DLNA?
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How many TVs actually use DLNA? I'd never heard of it until the Desire HD was released. I can't recall seeing any TV with DLNA, only HDMI.
Apache14 said:
who said it wont get 3.0 (gingerbread) ?
Im almost 100% shure HTC will give this device that update :-D
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Well yer your write it never was said that it wouldn't get gingerbread (which might not be 3.0...)
But then again, HTC haven't always been consistent with updates (*cough* HD2 *cough)
I prefer Android OS than Apple IOS, but HTC also prefer sells another Android phone than offering OS upgrade to the sold device. HTC like any company will not pay too much effort to upgrade Android OS to existing sold phone unless Google directly pull out any Android upgrade throughout the air and user has to leave any "SENSE addin" by rooting the HTC phone.
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- DHD body (looks nice, no glossy plastic that atracts finger prints like magnet, as my SGS does)
- iphone 4 audio performance (i don`t believe i said iphone but i got to say it, it has a great sound quality)
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The body looks decent, but I wonder why the camera protrudes so much. It will look like a mini-condom if I end up putting it in my back pocket. That's not good for my ego.
The iPhone audio performance part of your list may be addressed in the DHD. I tried using some of the new audio settings in the new sense on my Desire, but none of them changed anything. I tested this using both UE SuperFi 5vi and Bose Bose in-ear headsets. No change at all so it may be something that's tied to the hardware.
So here's what I would add (btw I agree with most of what other posters have already listed):
Internal *fast* storage. This phone does record and play HD content after all. Having 32G fast internal storage *could* help to reduce a lot of the lag I experience when I start the Music app (as an example) and would help reduce the need to go out and purchase class 6 or better sd cards.
Stock software improvements which reliably use volume + and - as well as ff and rw in the wired headsets.
angler said:
I prefer Android OS than Apple IOS, but HTC also prefer sells another Android phone than offering OS upgrade to the sold device. HTC like any company will not pay too much effort to upgrade Android OS to existing sold phone unless Google directly pull out any Android upgrade throughout the air and user has to leave any "SENSE addin" by rooting the HTC phone.
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I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean that HTC doesn't provide updates to their phones or something else? I have a mix-bag experience with HTC on this. My Desire has been updated to 2.2, yet my Wildfire is still 2.1 (it's possible I missed an update, I only use that phone when I go out drinking because I won't care nearly as much about losing it).
I can't tell if you'e complaining about lack of updates in general or if it's the lag in your specific area or with your carrier.
Leys talk about those things you just are in awe over our in shock that your phone can do certain things..
I'll start with a few things and leave some for others, or maybe I'll find out some more cool apps..
Heads up display.. I just found out about this, and got an app that will display speed info and compass right onto the windshield at night, and it does an awesome job at it. I use an app called speed view.
Remote control my computer mouse and keyboard..not for everyone but I have my computer hooked up to my fifty five inch tv and sit on my couch, sometimes I don't feel like pulling out my wireless keyboard and mouse,i just load up the remote droid on my phone and it works pretty damn good.
Roku remote..same as above,it copies what my roku remote looks like right onto my phone..works through my network and works flawless..
Sling box.. Watch direct tv on my phone, need hardware but well worth it..again works flawless...
Voice search programs like googles search and vlingo. The accuracy is amazing..
So those are just a few of "i can't believe my phone can do this"
What do you guys have?
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That is just works
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That is just works
Using my HTC Evo phone which I'm using Xda app to post
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Coming from WinMo, my sentiments exactly.
Good info, but I just created a thread on the 25th with the almost exact same premise that was on the font page as recent as today..lol
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Heads up display.. I just found out about this, and got an app that will display speed info and compass right onto the windshield at night, and it does an awesome job at it. I use an app called speed view.
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Which HUD app is this, i saw a few on the adnroid market.
Speed View
Download Dildroid and AndWobble2.
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That is just works
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I must say this is a big one. After 5 smartphones the EVO is the first phone I've had that I don't have a major issue with. It does everything I expect when I expect it.
I must admit though that the speech recognition is pretty amazing for a device this size.
Not really a jaw dropping feature...but does help me because i used to have an issue doing this:
I found out that the easiest way to move an app or widget from the main screen is by holding it, then dragging it onto another app or occupied space. By doing that, the screen will hold the widget/app in that place. Then you just swipe through the screens and place it somewhere.
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Which HUD app is this, i saw a few on the adnroid market.
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you even quoted the name of the app from the OP....wow
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you even quoted the name of the app from the OP....wow
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My thoughts exactly... Some people just can't comprehend !
what does it not do
Time Recorder. Don't have to worry about my boss getting "creative" when he totals up hours for payroll. Tikl Touch to Talk. A repeater radio over the 3G network is pretty damn cool. Seems kinda silly but Google Maps. The amount of info and the speed with which it can be accessed is incredible. This was really put into perspective watching my boss drag out a paper map and try to find an address he was not familiar with. Ouch! The Evo is my third smart phone and it is so far superior to the first two it blows me away.
I like to use my phone for watching movies
1. It just works (came from WinMo and Palm before that)
2. Customizable home screens
3. Angry Birds and Live Hold 'em - I'm addicted
4. Voice recognition is awesome, especially when I'm driving and using GMaps
5. Streaming radio
6. Flash-enabled browser
7. Flashlight - lame, I know, but incredibly useful
8. An app market and an active developer community
Most importantly - it can do everything I need it to do, and it does it all very well. My only 'complaint', if it is a complaint, is that Sense UI is not as buttery smooth as Samsung's on the Epic 4G.
1. It just works(repetitive i know)
2. Wifi Tether
3. kernel/rom/interface customization
4. versatility(i can change things on a whim, not wait for Apple to "release" a feature)
5. GIANT screen. ( i have a hard time using the fiance's iphone. it's too small)
6. Support base here at XDA(the mods and hacks for this thing exceeded anything i could have imagined)
7. expandable memory(the iphone's have to buy new models to get more storage. we just swap a memory card and sell the old one!)
8. High-end camera(video recording still needs some work, but the digital is pretty darn great)
Sprint TV. If I want the kids quiet on my long daily commute, I just load up the Disney Channel, and get sweet silence from the back seat.
Thinking about getting the Atrix or bionic. I wanted to see how pleased people are with the dock? My plan is to use it as my work laptop. Most if my work is browser based, so my first concern is how does the browser compare to a laptop browser. I do know that it is based on firefox, but is it a full browser? Second is how do people handle printing. Thanks in advance.
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I used the lapdock at work (I'm a sales consultant for bell), I did many projects and reports on it through google docs. Its ideal, good battery life but I hate the atrix. the keyboard wasn't the best but what its meant for 10/10
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Scottyedmonds said:
I used the lapdock at work (I'm a sales consultant for bell), I did many projects and reports on it through google docs. Its ideal, good battery life but I hate the atrix. the keyboard wasn't the best but what its meant for 10/10
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Curious, why do you hate the atrix?
meh ...
If you can find the dock for $100 +/- I'd say give it a try. More than that, I'd recommend skipping it.
...I have the Atrix and love it
...I also got the dock for $340 and regret it.
When docked the response is very laggy and the touchpad is especially sluggish. The firefox experience is prone to pauses and stutters as well. I haven't tried any of the hacks to see if it improves the experience.
Oh ... and AT&T requires a tethering plan to use the dock via 3G.
---Rob
if you are rooted and running GB then you can use the lapdock without tethering pan like I do. I don't print from it so I can't say for sure about that. Lapdock is very thin and convenient and charges the phone while you are surfing. I use a small USB mouse (keychain) and leave the mini dongle in the USB port all the time. Works better than hotspot and laptop imho. You can also receive and send sms with the keyboard as well. I take Bluetooth calls while surfing and use apps like Netflix.....to me it's great. Not sure if you can print from USB mass storage though.
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When docked the response is very laggy and the touchpad is especially sluggish. The firefox experience is prone to pauses and stutters as well. I haven't tried any of the hacks to see if it improves the experience.
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The touchpad can be adjusted in the settings so that it's not so slow..but otherwise invest in a Bluetooth mouse and you'll be good to go. I find the browsing to be very good actually..and considering most of the time I use it on 3g rather than wifi..it's still very fast (i've used sub $500 netbooks..and the browsing experience absolutely blows on them..unless you're used to Blackberry browsers )
I picked up an external hard drive and formated it to FAT32 and it works great..but I haven't tried a printer yet. I've got a e-printer that I use so no need for usb cables anymore anyways
The only time I really have noticed any lagginess is when i'm playing an emulator game full screen using my ps3 controller.
I think Atrix with Lapdock is really good. It can instead my pc to work with office software.
u can use openoffice for your daily office work.PPT/Word/Excel and so on.
i can plugin to the lapdock usb memorykey?
I too think ths Atrix and Lapdock combination works great for most people that use their laptops for Web stuff primarily. But even office stuff works great, specially after hacking the webtop so one can run Linux apps like OppenOffice and GIMP for example.
I spent $300 dollars on it and don't regret it. I know that's as much as an entry level laptop or average NetBook, but I really think its thinness and huge battery life more than justifies carrying it instead of my heavy and bulky 15" laptop.
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I too bought it for 300 dollars, but I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, the into experience it awesome, our at least the thought of it. I can run remote desktop for pretty much any pro gram I need. On the other hand, the performance is not add great as you would think. If more ram were allocated to the webtop mode, I think it would be much snappier, along with increased clock speed. I'm going to try using the 1.3ghz kernel later this weekend and see how much faster the dock is.
All that said, I still use it as my daily laptop for classes, and it works fine.
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I got mine refurb for $180. I think it was a good deal.
Pros:
1. Wifi printing is great if you have a networked printer.
2. Firefox is pretty good with good addon support.
3. File browser is easier to use than the one on the phone.
4. Hackability.
5. Keyboard is pretty good.
6. Battery life is AWESOME.
7. Built in Citrix Receiver. This is super awesome if you use this for any kind of work. It's easier to use my lapdock than my home PC w/VPN.
8. USB mass storage support.
9. Very light and sleek.
10. Geek factor- I get all kinds of questions from people, "What is that? I didn't know Motorola made laptops. Oh, cool!" etc.
Wishes:
1. Keyboard isn't backlit.
2. I wish it had a camera passthrough to a bezel-mounted webcam.
Cons:
1. Touchpad and touchpad buttons BLOW. Get a mouse (bluetooth or USB).
2. Slow sometimes. Use an OC kernel and that helps.
3. Can't install stuff without hacking.
4. Firefox is the only real "app" on the webtop (see #3).
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Curious, why do you hate the atrix?
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Hate the Astrix because of the email issue we have with it. Find the screen not as responsive as other phones and moto blur is the worst Android over lay of them all
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It really depends on what you want to do. I have the ubuntu hack installed, use Citrix to remote access office pc, and got Gnumeric running great to substitute Excel. I'd say it's functional enough to really do some light work on it. For anything serious, I'd be silly to use webtop instead of my core i5 laptop, but I'd bring Atrix+Lapdock to Starbucks for its coolness and geekness
Quoting Scottyedmonds:
Hate the Astrix [sic] because of the email issue we have with it. Find the screen not as responsive as other phones and moto blur is the worst Android over lay of them all
What email issue would that be. I have a rather complicated email configuration that works well for me.
The Bell mobility Atrix had an issue where no email besides gmail was able to send mail. The Motorola blur was at times un responsive and it was easy to accidentally add your email twice and then not be able to send from either.
As for the speed post, the phone is just as fast as any other.
As for the part where I have no idea what I'm talking about? I sell hundreds of these devices every year, when a phone is crap, my customers come back with their problems! When you get to use whatever phone you want and have responsibility of advising people on which phone to sign a 3 year contract with, I might take your douche comment serious, but with that statement you obviously have no idea what you're talking about; don't bother reading my posts then buddy!
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I just bought my laptop dock today for the ATRIX 4G. I got it for 159.99 on buy.com brand new.
Hope its the shiz nit.
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