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Bell Galaxy S2 4G - Canadian Release (July 14th) - First in North America

Bell Canada and Virgin Mobile Canada will be releasing the Samsung Galaxy S2 4G (the 4G is Bell's naming, its still 21Mbps) July 14th. Many retailer already received the unit, but they will go on sale only on the 14.
This thread is to collect information, tips, and rooting/unlocks tips.
Similar thread over howardforum: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...will-sell-it-unlocked?p=14466326#post14466326

Price is gonna be 599.95$ without a contract an around 150$ with a 3yr contract.
Sadly, it seem for reason I don't undersand that retailer, will not let the phone go out of the store un-activated (need a new contract or an existing customer transfering phone). The minimum "contract" seem to be a 30day 50$ plan from virgin, bell offer a similar but add initial fees, which virgin don't.
If anyone find a way around this, or store willing to sell without activating the phone, post it over here.....
So far Futureshop, Bestbuy and some the source all told me the same... But feel free to give it a try.
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x-cimo said:
Price is gonna be 599.95$ without a contract an around 150$ with a 3yr contract.
Sadly, it seem for reason I don't undersand that retailer, will not let the phone go out of the store un-activated (need a new contract or an existing customer transfering phone). The minimum "contract" seem to be a 30day 50$ plan from virgin, bell offer a similar but add initial fees, which virgin don't.
If anyone find a way around this, or store willing to sell without activating the phone, post it over here.....
So far Futureshop, Bestbuy and some the source all told me the same... But feel free to give it a try.
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From polling a few retailers (The Source, Future Shop, Bell Mobility Stores, Wireless Wave, etc.) I found it's pretty much hit and miss. Usually 1 store is willing to sell it to you off contract for every 4 asked, but, then that could change if they fly off the shelves.

Most of the store I found had either them on order (avg 6 units), or in stock (avg 3 units)... So be there early.
Was there any Bell store willing to sell off contract? (I haven't tried thoses.) Assuming they would be less flexible.

x-cimo said:
Most of the store I found had either them on order (avg 6 units), or in stock (avg 3 units)... So be there early.
Was there any Bell store willing to sell off contract? (I haven't tried thoses.) Assuming they would be less flexible.
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I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.

They can say whatever they want but any phone sold by Bell will have to be honored by their warranty program. You can talk to Bell corporate about this and they'll confirm it. They'll also tell you that if you want to buy the phone off-contract they can't refuse you. Store owners are just being dicks because they get no commission with no plan activation. Had the same sort of issues when the Nexus S was released in Canada and people wanted to buy off-contract since they were unlocked (despite Rogers/Telus/Bell claiming they were locked).
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I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.
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knowthenazz said:
I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.
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I dont think that would be legal... How would they enforce this..
Sell a 599$ phone, but say, no warranty for you.
Really, I am looking at a the source flyer, and it say 599$ with no contract. There is no place where it say you need a minimum 30 days plan required.
Other than: to get the reduce price with a X year contract you need a minimum 50$ plan.
I just don't know how to force them to sell me the phone, even if I think they are lying about the 30 day

I'm definitely going to look in to getting one off-contract, as I'm currently with Rogers...
Anyone know of any issues so far that would prevent the phone from working properly on Rogers?

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I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.
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I got the impression that he was referring to not being able to return the phone within the 14 day return period. I don't think he was talking about the warranty.
Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks!

fongoid said:
I'm definitely going to look in to getting one off-contract, as I'm currently with Rogers...
Anyone know of any issues so far that would prevent the phone from working properly on Rogers?
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+1
but I just ordered it from Handtec. It's kinda sad that Rogers has let us down yet again.

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I'm definitely going to look in to getting one off-contract, as I'm currently with Rogers...
Anyone know of any issues so far that would prevent the phone from working properly on Rogers?
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My understanding is all that you'd have to do is root and unlock the phone, and it should work fine on the Rogers network.

News that the release date could be July 21st:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/07/12/b...p+(mobilesyrup.com)&utm_content=Google+Reader
When Bell announced they’ll be one of the carriers who will release the Samsung Galaxy S II 4G they never confirmed a launch date, only that it will be available “in the coming weeks”. Carriers usually state this just in case there are shipping issues or problems meeting software tests. Rumours surfaced over the past few weeks of a July 14th release, but we are now hearing the launch date is officially set for Thursday, July 21st.
Apparently us Canadians will be getting the latest software and Bell wants to ensure that enough supply is available. The internal doc we received says that Bell is “anticipating very strong demand for the device” and waiting for “adequate supply to arrive”. Samsung recently announced that worldwide sales of this Android has already topped 3 million in just 55 days. This will be available for $599.95 on a no-contract and it’s expected the 3-year price will be $169.95.

Every store I been to told me july 14. I don`t think they will push it to 21.

My Bell rep forbade my Best Buy from selling it before the 21st and I got confirmation of this via an internal memo. We have it, but can't sell it.

BS.... We will see..

Whether we want to believe it or not, it's the truth... I'm as frustrated about it as you are, as I sold my Nexus last week to pay off my Telus cancellation fees, and now I'm going to be phone-less another week and a half...

go to wireless wave or phone booth. they let you purchase the phone out right. the warranty is void if you unlock the phone no matter where you purchase the phone.
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Yea. that was my plan, walk around im sure somebody will sell it..

Just got back from Future Shop. Their live display model is out, and I managed to play with it a bit.
They confirmed as well that July 14 is the release date.

I got a question for you guys: Why don't you just buy one from a UK site instead of waiting for Bell/Virgin's release?
Warranty will be void anyways if you buy from Bell or Virgin without contract. You have to pay $599 + activation + possible minimum plan + tax + cancellation fee(?).
If you order from Clove or Handtec, you can get a UK warranty (meaning to ship back if anything unfortunate happen to the phone...better than no warranty!). It'll only cost less than $640 including shipping.
Anyone frankly explain it to me?

New Galaxy Nexus $300

One of the Carriers here in Canada (Mobilicity) has started to sell the Nexus for $300 no contract .
Here is the link

Seconded - I am looking to get this deal.
I just have one concern - Like the SGS2, is this some sort of substandard model of nexus? It seems there is only one "Galaxy Nexus".
Confirm please and I'm sure many will be happy
This one would be compatible with AWS as well. Unfortunately Mobilicity doesn't ship anywhere, you have to collect the phone at a store. Who wants a 340 dollar (tax) GN shipped to them?

k00zk0 said:
Seconded - I am looking to get this deal.
I just have one concern - Like the SGS2, is this some sort of substandard model of nexus? It seems there is only one "Galaxy Nexus".
Confirm please and I'm sure many will be happy
This one would be compatible with AWS as well. Unfortunately Mobilicity doesn't ship anywhere, you have to collect the phone at a store. Who wants a 340 dollar (tax) GN shipped to them?
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Yes there is only one model of the g-nex (except in mexico japan and us carriers which is a CDMA version of it ) also 340$ is still a really good deal
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Do they ship to the US?

Anyway we can order from the US?

You can contact htcfan he is a active marketplace member who lives in canada
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Oh come on.. I was at Canada 2 weeks ago (Vancouver).. lol.. damn it.. if it was $300 when I was there, I would have probably bought it. But $300 + crazy Canada tax and currency, it might be similar to Google Play I think?

Not to take the thread off topic (somewhat) but I just checked the Rogers site for a comparison sake of the price and the phone isn't even listed on there any more. I am shocked that they took it down while they still have the SII on their site. I guess sales must of been pretty bad if they took it down.

Yeah both Rogers and Telus have taken it down i guess people don't want to get a $600 device that sells for $300 and I doubt they want to sell a unlocked phone.
Also yeah I think you have to go to a store to get this I doubt they ship but hey it's a good deal for canadians who live in large metro areas

Picked one up.
It is unlocked.
They won't ship. You must get a plan with the phone, but since it is month to month I'm sure you can cancel in the first month. With tax and the first month of 25 dollar service it was 370 or so.
So the unit I got has that problem where certain shades of grey are purple tinted. As I understand I need to root to get it to 4.1.
Phone comes with 4.0.1.
Direct some questions if you'd like

Yeah it's a little more expensive then the play store one but in Canada they aren't sold in the play store.
Also yeah ours are on a NON Yakju build so you manually have to flash it over to receive OTA updates

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Dark lord me said:
Yeah it's a little more expensive then the play store one but in Canada they aren't sold in the play store.
Also yeah ours are on a NON Yakju build so you manually have to flash it over to receive OTA updates
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Sale price is applicable only to new activations when customer purchases in advance, non-refundable 3 months of services on the $25 or $35 Back To School Plan (equivalent to $75 and $105 respectively, plus tax) and is on automatic monthly payments (preauthorized credit/debit payment).

[Q] Availability from retail stores in mid december?

Hi,
I'm going from Denmark to New York in mid december, and really want to pick up a N4, since we can't order it from the google store here in Denmark.
Does anyone have a guess on how likely it would be for me to pick it up in a store in NY in mid december. I'm thinking stores like Best Buy and Staples (other stores I should look out for?).
I didn't follow the release of the Nexus 7, so I'm not sure how long it takes for these devices to be available from retail stores.

No one?

For the Nexus 7, it was available at retail stores right on the launch day of the Nexus 7 though I'm not sure if it'd be the same since this is a phone. Even if it didn't come right on the launch day, surely it'd be in by mid-December.

Thank you

I didn't realize that they would be selling the N4 in store? Was the original Gnex sold in stores?

I really don't think that they will be selling it in stores. I don't think they have sold any of the Nexus phones in stores other than the Verizon/Sprint variants which were not really Nexus. T-Mobile will sell it but for an inflated LG price.
Have you considered if you can order it online and send it to where you are staying or have a friend order it for you and you just pay him/her back when you are here?

MN_Bug said:
I really don't think that they will be selling it in stores. I don't think they have sold any of the Nexus phones in stores other than the Verizon/Sprint variants which were not really Nexus. T-Mobile will sell it but for an inflated LG price.
Have you considered if you can order it online and send it to where you are staying or have a friend order it for you and you just pay him/her back when you are here?
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I have thought about ordering it and getting it sent to my hotel. I have an American Express creditcard, so I'd assume that I should be able to use that on the Play Store, eventho the card is handled by some American Express company here in Denmark?
But I guess I'll wait and see. I'd prefer to buy it in a physical store if possible, but if my Amex card works as an American card, I'd certainly consider ordering it a few days before I leave, and then have it sent to the hotel.

JanLundDK said:
I have thought about ordering it and getting it sent to my hotel. I have an American Express creditcard, so I'd assume that I should be able to use that on the Play Store, eventho the card is handled by some American Express company here in Denmark?
But I guess I'll wait and see. I'd prefer to buy it in a physical store if possible, but if my Amex card works as an American card, I'd certainly consider ordering it a few days before I leave, and then have it sent to the hotel.
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It's posted in the general forum that the shipping address has to match your billing address. I don't know how that will work out for you, but if you are in no hurry I guess you can wait and see.

wngmv said:
It's posted in the general forum that the shipping address has to match your billing address. I don't know how that will work out for you, but if you are in no hurry I guess you can wait and see.
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Is this new for the playstore? I had my N7 sent to my work...

Can I buy from AT&T or TMobile sim unlocked & if so, how much & when?

Friend is in the US currently, more people regularly come & go as well. Is it possible to buy it soon from AT&T or TMobile, will it be unlocked & how much would it cost, does any kind soul have all the answers?
Thanks much guys.. :good:
And, of course as it's almost 6am here, I posted in the wrong fckng forum.. Can a mod please move it to Q&A? Thanks. & Sorry..

Not from AT&T. T-Mobile charges $499 without a contract.

not sure about att yet but t-mobile usa is selling its for like another 150 $ + off contract ...i think you better off waiting on play store to have them in stock again save you money.. not sure if t-mo had them instock on stores or online.. just trying to make money t-mob:silly:

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Not from AT&T. T-Mobile charges $499 without a contract.
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Thanks, found info on that just now. "Select Stores" will have it. Hm. Which ones are select stores..? :silly:

$500.00
Here:
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/13/t-mobile-nexus-4-200-500-dollars-tomorrow/

markysd said:
not sure about att yet but t-mobile usa is selling its for like another 150 $ + off contract ...i think you better off waiting on play store to have them in stock again save you money.. not sure if t-mo had them instock on stores or online.. just trying to make money t-mob:silly:
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Well, we have the Euro conversion if I buy it from there; it'd only be 43 Euro more (not including any taxes, not sure how that works over there) compared to getting it here so it's not too bad.
The question of course, is, what happens with warranty. Probably royally screwed.
And whether it'd be sim locked; probably not as it is off contract..
P. S. You see, Google are fairly clever. They just turn the $ to €. It costs 350 Euro here, that is +/- 450 $.. :banghead::thumbdown:

There isn't a separate "T-Mobile version"; it's identical, so it will be unlocked. As for warranty, I dunno who would be responsible for that. Maybe LG? The best thing to do is to call T-Mobile and ask which stores will have it and what they'll do about warranty if the phone is used abroad.

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There isn't a separate "T-Mobile version"; it's identical, so it will be unlocked. As for warranty, I dunno who would be responsible for that. Maybe LG? The best thing to do is to call T-Mobile and ask which stores will have it and what they'll do about warranty if the phone is used abroad.
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Yeah, I'm on my mate's case to get him out early tomorrow to check. I think he's in vegas on a business convention (getting sh*t-faced..) so he isn't answering the messages. The boll*x..
Bought my good old Atrix in the US, never needed any warranty. Knock on wood..
Thanks for the responses!

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just trying to make money t-mob:silly:
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A Business trying to make $$$....no way?!?
No one is telling you to buy from TMo. I'll have mine first thing in the morning.... i didn't have to lose sleep, call off work, or deal with the stress today... and oh ya... it'll only cost me $200 after the MIR!!
Also was able to purchase 2 16GB N4s and an N10, now that's triple
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A friend is currently in Chicago & can hopefully grab one; is the advertised price of 500$ including taxes or how does it work over there..?

Vangelis13 said:
A friend is currently in Chicago & can hopefully grab one; is the advertised price of 500$ including taxes or how does it work over there..?
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That doesn't include tax. Chicago has the highest sales tax in the U.S. so you can expect it to be about $550.

MaxCarnage said:
That doesn't include tax. Chicago has the highest sales tax in the U.S. so you can expect it to be about $550.
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How about St Louis..?
Edit: Found it, 4,5%.

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How about St Louis..?
Edit: Found it, 4,5%.
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That's about right.

Phew come to newfoundland, it's 13%. Sales tax that is

Oh, Canada! Note 4 in the Great White

Ok, so who's spotted the Note 4 yet? Best Buy and Future Shop both list it in their flyer, but you call the store and they don't have a clue
Expansys.ca doesn't have pricing or delivery dates yet.
Anyone else find this elusive beast?

EP2008 said:
Ok, so who's spotted the Note 4 yet? Best Buy and Future Shop both list it in their flyer, but you call the store and they don't have a clue
Expansys.ca doesn't have pricing or delivery dates yet.
Anyone else find this elusive beast?
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waiting to it too....i"ve checked through the web...and found that note 4 is sheduled for oct 3...however it probably just for pre-order only......since its expected for mid-october in U.S.. guess it gonna be around the same here too!!!

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waiting to it too....i"ve checked through the web...and found that note 4 is sheduled for oct 3...however it probably just for pre-order only......since its expected for mid-october in U.S.. guess it gonna be around the same here too!!!
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Oct 3rd for Canada? I don't think so. Most of the rest of the world still has it scheduled for mid-October. I think we'll be lucky to get it then.
Futureshop this morning and the guy I spoke to said that they won't even have display models on show until the day before launch - he said they even did that for the iphone 6's.

Hey guys, I work at a telecom company in Canada and we have a launch date for the Gear Live on october 2nd. We usually launch the watch with a smartphone so I am assuming that the release date will be on the 2nd or 3rd.

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Hey guys, I work at a telecom company in Canada and we have a launch date for the Gear Live on october 2nd. We usually launch the watch with a smartphone so I am assuming that the release date will be on the 2nd or 3rd.
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This would be awesome, but still seems like speculation. Crossing my fingers though ?

Just got an email from Expansys.ca about my pre-order... $849 for the Note 4... I think that's too high and I may hold off on it. When US carriers are selling it outright for $649, I just can't bring myself to paying $850.
Has anyone else found better prices?

Well... things escalated quickly.
They said the Note 4 would be shipping no later than this Thursday (Oct 2nd), but when they confirmed my order, it ended up being CDN$933 + shipping and tax, which put it close to $1100. I don't feel that any phone is worth that much. I cancelled my order and will be holding off for now.

Expansys is now showing the pre-order price of 999.99! Way too much!

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Expansys is now showing the pre-order price of 999.99! Way too much!
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That's pretty outrageous. I'm looking back at my Note 2's invoice and I paid $800 form them with express shipping and taxes included - two years ago. There's no justification for such a high price on the Note 4. But I have a feeling that they've artificially inflated that price - once it's in retail stores, they'll drop it quickly. I was just hoping to get it sooner, but not for a few hundred dollars more!

Can we just purchase in the USA and unlock here?
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Be careful
I strongly suggest you make sure the model supports the LTE frequencies here in Canada.
The canadian model is sm-n910w8 and that's the one to get.
The Expansys one is probably the sm-n910s which is the international model and therefore LTE will be limited and not even work in the USA (AT&T).
Just get one from the big 3 (telus, rogers and bell).
You must get it with a plan but that doesn't matter, just go through with it and cancel 5 seconds after. You will NOT pay cancelling fees. Then you unlock the phone with whatever service you want.

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Just get one from the big 3 (telus, rogers and bell).
You must get it with a plan but that doesn't matter, just go through with it and cancel 5 seconds after. You will NOT pay cancelling fees. Then you unlock the phone with whatever service you want.
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I'm interested in getting the phone outright through Bell. Do you always have to get it with a plan? What a hassle. I'm use to buying unlocked phones, so this makes no sense to me. LOL

gqman69 said:
I strongly suggest you make sure the model supports the LTE frequencies here in Canada.
The canadian model is sm-n910w8 and that's the one to get.
The Expansys one is probably the sm-n910s which is the international model and therefore LTE will be limited and not even work in the USA (AT&T).
Just get one from the big 3 (telus, rogers and bell).
You must get it with a plan but that doesn't matter, just go through with it and cancel 5 seconds after. You will NOT pay cancelling fees. Then you unlock the phone with whatever service you want.
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just be aware.....
in fact the sm-n900a and 900t wich are at&t and T-Mobile variant gonna work perfectly here...my former optimus g pro wich only at&t brought this model in north America was working perfectly on robellus since these carrier are using the same frequency....except for the newly 700mhz here in Canada wich in U.S.A they use already since awhile...personally I"m gonna wait for the 900w8 since they should be invailable in same time...
in fact the T-Mobile variant is even better since it would work on wind and videotron......
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I'm interested in getting the phone outright through Bell. Do you always have to get it with a plan? What a hassle. I'm use to buying unlocked phones, so this makes no sense to me. LOL
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if you are already with bell...and want to keep your plan...you just have to buy it outright....however if your not with them...you"ll have to go with them with a plan... otherwise they will not sale you the phone...samething with any provider by the way....

zxaz said:
if you are already with bell...and want to keep your plan...you just have to buy it outright....however if your not with them...you"ll have to go with them with a plan... otherwise they will not sale you the phone...samething with any provider by the way....
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I'm with Virgin, but they are basically Bell, so whatever Bell sells will work with Virgin - I really just want to avoid signing up for a plan, cancelling, and all that nonsense. I just want to buy and phone and set it up.
If Bell won't sell the phone, what are my options? Go with an unlocked non-Canadian LTE model?

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I'm with Virgin, but they are basically Bell, so whatever Bell sells will work with Virgin - I really just want to avoid signing up for a plan, cancelling, and all that nonsense. I just want to buy and phone and set it up.
If Bell won't sell the phone, what are my options? Go with an unlocked non-Canadian LTE model?
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virgin didn't sell the note 3...and it gonna probably the same with the note 4....your best bet is either your buy a U.S variant (at&t or tmo) or the Canadians variant 900w8 wich is the same then the 900a (at&t variant) on kijiji ad or ebay.....the us variant gonna cost about the same here with the custom fee and shipping+currency....

zxaz said:
virgin didn't sell the note 3...and it gonna probably the same with the note 4....your best bet is either your buy a U.S variant (at&t or tmo) or the Canadians variant 900w8 wich is the same then the 900a (at&t variant) on kijiji ad or ebay.....the us variant gonna cost about the same here with the custom fee and shipping+currency....
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Hmm. Never heard of getting an AT&T or T-mobile phone from the states and using it up here. I don't really feel comfortable with that, since it would likely be a pain to get warranty service for it, no?

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Hmm. Never heard of getting an AT&T or T-mobile phone from the states and using it up here. I don't really feel comfortable with that, since it would likely be a pain to get warranty service for it, no?
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if you worry about the warranty issue...then buy a Canadians variant.....my last two phone where u.s variant and didn't have any problem with them....and they where rooted of course....it depend how much your a geek? lolllll

EP2008 said:
I'm with Virgin, but they are basically Bell, so whatever Bell sells will work with Virgin - I really just want to avoid signing up for a plan, cancelling, and all that nonsense. I just want to buy and phone and set it up.
If Bell won't sell the phone, what are my options? Go with an unlocked non-Canadian LTE model?
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I'm also with Virgin and I have a great plan which I don't want to loose.
None of the providers will sell you the Note 4 but like I said, use them, get a plan and cancel it.
Bonus: it kinda pisses them off, I like to tell them to their faces that's what I'm doing.

gqman69 said:
I'm also with Virgin and I have a great plan which I don't want to loose.
None of the providers will sell you the Note 4 but like I said, use them, get a plan and cancel it.
Bonus: it kinda pisses them off, I like to tell them to their faces that's what I'm doing.
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So you go on a month-to-month plan (to get the phone outright), then cancel the plan right on the spot and keep the phone? LOL Do you lose anything? Like an activation fee or your first month payment for the plan?

EP2008 said:
So you go on a month-to-month plan (to get the phone outright), then cancel the plan right on the spot and keep the phone? LOL Do you lose anything? Like an activation fee or your first month payment for the plan?
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Well, there are no activation fees, but yes you will have to pay the first month. It's a small price to pay for getting the phone asap. Also, Telus will sell it for around 900$ and if you think about it, expansys is asking 1000$ + shipping, so it's not really that bad of a hit.
I blame Samsung, I want to give them my money but they don't make it easy.
However, their stunned stupid face, when I unlocked my Note 2 right in front of them while someone was explaining the "plan" is priceless (remember the menu unlock thing...).