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Nexus One just arriving at third party outlets?

It was a bargain at Google's online outlet. How can they have the balls to say the phone is a $699.00 retail phone? $300.00 with a new two year T-Mobile contract? This isn't going to help sales.
Here it is at i-wireless
Here it is at Pure Wireless for AT&T - no contract price of $638.00 plus shipping.
Ugh - I hope this isn't going to be a sign of what's to come.

Wow, never even thought of seeing it at those prices. I'm not sure what to make of this actually because they were talking about selling it at retail outlets, not on the internet.

This one is my favorite.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270562235947&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

krabman said:
Wow, never even thought of seeing it at those prices. I'm not sure what to make of this actually because they were talking about selling it at retail outlets, not on the internet.
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Those seem like 3rd party retailers, they always seem to bloat the prices so they make money off of it, if you go directly to an official store, they'll have it at the actual price. I heard t-mobile is going to start selling it officially.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/186991/nexus_one_price_drops_for_some_tmobile_upgrades.html
New customers get it for $180, upgrades are another story.

ChillRays said:
This one is my favorite.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270562235947&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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That one kills me. I didn't know Hong Kong was in Canada.

prophetjinn said:
Those seem like 3rd party retailers, they always seem to bloat the prices so they make money off of it, if you go directly to an official store, they'll have it at the actual price. I heard t-mobile is going to start selling it officially.
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I heard that too. I heard AT&T will, too. But I have serious doubts about that rumor. If they do, they'll insist on screwing it up. You can count on no more "fastboot oem unlock"

attn1 said:
That one kills me. I didn't know Hong Kong was in Canada.
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haha i just noticed that too...

prophetjinn said:
Those seem like 3rd party retailers, they always seem to bloat the prices so they make money off of it, if you go directly to an official store, they'll have it at the actual price. I heard t-mobile is going to start selling it officially.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/186991/nexus_one_price_drops_for_some_tmobile_upgrades.html
New customers get it for $180, upgrades are another story.
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NOUN
1. sale to consumers: the selling of goods directly to customers, e.g. in stores
"She works in retail."
ADVERB
1. not wholesale: from an ordinary store or at the regular customer price and in small amounts rather than in bulk
"I bought it retail."
This is something that maybe has a different connotation elsewhere but retail around here refers to brick and mortar. Before there was an internet something not bought at retail or catalog sales from a retailer was either mail order or private sale. Nowdays you can add internet sales to that as a different venue to shop but it is not retail.
edit... Maybe its just because I'm old. Let me rephrase, its not retail to me or basically anyone I know. I'm going to have to ask one of my kids the next time they come over.

This is what I've been saying all along. It's not carriers they mentioned, they said third party retail, like amazon, best buy, frys electronics, etc. I mean what carriers are left? They all passed on the nexus, so the only places left are stores.

krabman said:
NOUN
1. sale to consumers: the selling of goods directly to customers, e.g. in stores
"She works in retail."
ADVERB
1. not wholesale: from an ordinary store or at the regular customer price and in small amounts rather than in bulk
"I bought it retail."
This is something that maybe has a different connotation elsewhere but retail around here refers to brick and mortar. Before there was an internet something not bought at retail or catalog sales from a retailer was either mail order or private sale. Nowdays you can add internet sales to that as a different venue to shop but it is not retail.
edit... Maybe its just because I'm old. Let me rephrase, its not retail to me or basically anyone I know. I'm going to have to ask one of my kids the next time they come over.
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Did I say retail? I asked if this is a sign of things to come because NO ONE has yet announced the Nexus One is slated for their retail outlet. Also, the AT&T version is "temporarily unavailable" from the Google online store.
If sales are so damn bad, how did this happen?

attn1 said:
Did I say retail? I asked if this is a sign of things to come because NO ONE has yet announced the Nexus One is slated for their retail outlet. Also, the AT&T version is "temporarily unavailable" from the Google online store.
If sales are so damn bad, how did this happen?
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Its going to take 3 days to get more AT&T Nexus Ones in. A google employee confirmed this. Sadly I don't have a link to back this up but thats the word going around. =)

ChillRays said:
Its going to take 3 days to get more AT&T Nexus Ones in. A google employee confirmed this. Sadly I don't have a link to back this up but thats the word going around. =)
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And this happened because they are letting inventory drop before allowing a retailer to take over? A $99.00 AT&T Nexus at Walmart would be outstanding. With my luck, it will end up at Radio Shack for $429.00 with a new contract. My wife now wants one.

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And this happened because they are letting inventory drop before allowing a retailer to take over? A $99.00 AT&T Nexus at Walmart would be outstanding. With my luck, it will end up at Radio Shack for $429.00 with a new contract. My wife now wants one.
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Looks like your wife and I are in the same boat I really can't wait for my N1.

ChillRays said:
Looks like your wife and I are in the same boat I really can't wait for my N1.
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Well, we're waiting a few days for the new iphone to come out. If I peddle that on Ebay new and unopened and contract free, it ought to bring enough profit to pay for a good part of a new N1. I just hope it's available for a reasonable price somewhere when we're ready to buy.

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Did I say retail? I asked if this is a sign of things to come because NO ONE has yet announced the Nexus One is slated for their retail outlet. Also, the AT&T version is "temporarily unavailable" from the Google online store.
If sales are so damn bad, how did this happen?
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They said retail in their announcement. You know, it turns out people want to get their hands on them, or whatever the language was. I dont feel like looking it up but I'm sure you recall that. That is why I wonder exactly what this is all about. This isnt going to move many more handsets than their own direct sales. Thats where I was going about it not making sense. It doesnt jive with what they said.

FYI, I Wireless is a cell phone provider based out of Iowa, and is affiliated with T-Mobile USA, although both are still separate companies. They have had the Nexus One since the end of March at select corporate locations. The reason they are priced that much is because they had to buy them 5 at a time from Google in order to offer them to customers. They did this because they wanted to offer their customers the Nexus One, and this was the only way they could at a discount.
With the change in Google policy, they are now available at every location in the company. But here is the thing, Google is still selling the phone to retailers and carriers, and they are charging an arm and a leg for each unit. $300 on contract is still a large discount from what the whole sale price of the phone is for most retailers... some retailers and carriers, ie T-Mobile, are getting a better deal, thus can offer a lower price. But they are also taking a bigger hit than others are (they can afford to because they have a larger customer base, thus if they only make $20 over a 2 year contract off a Nexus One owner, they can handle that because they have so many customers it still adds up to millions in the end).

krabman said:
They said retail in their announcement. You know, it turns out people want to get their hands on them, or whatever the language was. I dont feel like looking it up but I'm sure you recall that. That is why I wonder exactly what this is all about. This isnt going to move many more handsets than their own direct sales. Thats where I was going about it not making sense. It doesnt jive with what they said.
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Yup, agreed.
pjcforpres said:
FYI, I Wireless is a cell phone provider based out of Iowa, and is affiliated with T-Mobile USA, although both are still separate companies. They have had the Nexus One since the end of March at select corporate locations. The reason they are priced that much is because they had to buy them 5 at a time from Google in order to offer them to customers. They did this because they wanted to offer their customers the Nexus One, and this was the only way they could at a discount.
With the change in Google policy, they are now available at every location in the company. But here is the thing, Google is still selling the phone to retailers and carriers, and they are charging an arm and a leg for each unit. $300 on contract is still a large discount from what the whole sale price of the phone is for most retailers... some retailers and carriers, ie T-Mobile, are getting a better deal, thus can offer a lower price. But they are also taking a bigger hit than others are (they can afford to because they have a larger customer base, thus if they only make $20 over a 2 year contract off a Nexus One owner, they can handle that because they have so many customers it still adds up to millions in the end).
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Well, $529.00 retail/no contract is not an arm and a leg. The price should drop in half or more with a new 2 year contract - the plans have fat in the price to provide a hefty $300.00 or more sudsidy. AT&T just increased their early termination contract penalty to $325.00 on smart phones to make sure they recover their subsidy. Something is just not right with this picture.

Man, Google is dumb here.
Why does it have to be online-only or store-only?
What they should have done is send one or two phones to all T-Mobile stores, and maybe have an online kiosk too. Then people can check it out in person and BOOM, sold.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.

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Well, $529.00 retail/no contract is not an arm and a leg. The price should drop in half or more with a new 2 year contract - the plans have fat in the price to provide a hefty $300.00 or more sudsidy. AT&T just increased their early termination contract penalty to $325.00 on smart phones to make sure they recover their subsidy. Something is just not right with this picture.
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I Wireless doesn't charge $325, though. And like I already said, they were buying them 5 at a time at full retail price just to offer them to their customers. That is a $260 subsidy... but that in perspective, if you gave that discount on a BB Bold 9700, the phone would be about $50. In general, most phones are subsidized about $100 for a dumb phone and $200 for a smartphone. And net the carrier about $50-$100 in total profit over a 2 year contract. Verizon and AT&T make much more than the T-Mobile's, and especially I Wireless of the world.

pjcforpres said:
I Wireless doesn't charge $325, though. And like I already said, they were buying them 5 at a time at full retail price just to offer them to their customers. That is a $260 subsidy... but that in perspective, if you gave that discount on a BB Bold 9700, the phone would be about $50. In general, most phones are subsidized about $100 for a dumb phone and $200 for a smartphone. And net the carrier about $50-$100 in total profit over a 2 year contract. Verizon and AT&T make much more than the T-Mobile's, and especially I Wireless of the world.
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How was Google pushing them out to new T-Mo customers for $179.00?
Paul22000 said:
Man, Google is dumb here.
Why does it have to be online-only or store-only?
What they should have done is send one or two phones to all T-Mobile stores, and maybe have an online kiosk too. Then people can check it out in person and BOOM, sold.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
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Yeah, they could have done something different, that's for sure. Walmart? Best Buy? These guys can buy in enough volume to put them out there are a reasonable price.

New Galaxy Nexus $300

One of the Carriers here in Canada (Mobilicity) has started to sell the Nexus for $300 no contract .
Here is the link

Seconded - I am looking to get this deal.
I just have one concern - Like the SGS2, is this some sort of substandard model of nexus? It seems there is only one "Galaxy Nexus".
Confirm please and I'm sure many will be happy
This one would be compatible with AWS as well. Unfortunately Mobilicity doesn't ship anywhere, you have to collect the phone at a store. Who wants a 340 dollar (tax) GN shipped to them?

k00zk0 said:
Seconded - I am looking to get this deal.
I just have one concern - Like the SGS2, is this some sort of substandard model of nexus? It seems there is only one "Galaxy Nexus".
Confirm please and I'm sure many will be happy
This one would be compatible with AWS as well. Unfortunately Mobilicity doesn't ship anywhere, you have to collect the phone at a store. Who wants a 340 dollar (tax) GN shipped to them?
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Yes there is only one model of the g-nex (except in mexico japan and us carriers which is a CDMA version of it ) also 340$ is still a really good deal
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Do they ship to the US?

Anyway we can order from the US?

You can contact htcfan he is a active marketplace member who lives in canada
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Oh come on.. I was at Canada 2 weeks ago (Vancouver).. lol.. damn it.. if it was $300 when I was there, I would have probably bought it. But $300 + crazy Canada tax and currency, it might be similar to Google Play I think?

Not to take the thread off topic (somewhat) but I just checked the Rogers site for a comparison sake of the price and the phone isn't even listed on there any more. I am shocked that they took it down while they still have the SII on their site. I guess sales must of been pretty bad if they took it down.

Yeah both Rogers and Telus have taken it down i guess people don't want to get a $600 device that sells for $300 and I doubt they want to sell a unlocked phone.
Also yeah I think you have to go to a store to get this I doubt they ship but hey it's a good deal for canadians who live in large metro areas

Picked one up.
It is unlocked.
They won't ship. You must get a plan with the phone, but since it is month to month I'm sure you can cancel in the first month. With tax and the first month of 25 dollar service it was 370 or so.
So the unit I got has that problem where certain shades of grey are purple tinted. As I understand I need to root to get it to 4.1.
Phone comes with 4.0.1.
Direct some questions if you'd like

Yeah it's a little more expensive then the play store one but in Canada they aren't sold in the play store.
Also yeah ours are on a NON Yakju build so you manually have to flash it over to receive OTA updates

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Dark lord me said:
Yeah it's a little more expensive then the play store one but in Canada they aren't sold in the play store.
Also yeah ours are on a NON Yakju build so you manually have to flash it over to receive OTA updates
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Sale price is applicable only to new activations when customer purchases in advance, non-refundable 3 months of services on the $25 or $35 Back To School Plan (equivalent to $75 and $105 respectively, plus tax) and is on automatic monthly payments (preauthorized credit/debit payment).

Stores in the US selling unlocked N4?

Does anyone know of any stores in the US that will be selling the Nexus 4 unlocked (ie exactly the same as the GPlay version)?
Best Buy, etc? I can't find any info out on their website

natabbotts said:
Does anyone know of any stores in the US that will be selling the Nexus 4 unlocked (ie exactly the same as the GPlay version)?
Best Buy, etc? I can't find any info out on their website
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T-Mobile is promoting the same unlocked version of the phone, and I'm pretty sure they will sell it unlocked and off contract in stores also, but then again, I don't know what the price will be since you will be in a "T-Mobile store" and they can slap any price tag on an off contract "T-Mobile" phone that is promoted through their network.

It's been predicted around $ 500.00
You are better off in Google Play Store

negri electronics has it on pre-order, they don't know when they'll ship though
price is $100 more than play store. seems to be the only option for anyone outside usa/canada at the moment

Thanks for your help, folks I can order off play store as I'm in the UK, but I'm visiting the US next week and the play store US dollar prices work out less than the UK prices, so I was hoping I could nab a bargain in store

natabbotts said:
Thanks for your help, folks I can order off play store as I'm in the UK, but I'm visiting the US next week and the play store US dollar prices work out less than the UK prices, so I was hoping I could nab a bargain in store
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Why would you do that? You won't get warranty then.

Mohit12 said:
Why would you do that? You won't get warranty then.
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Price is more of a seller than a warranty. The phone works out over £40 cheaper if I bought it at Play store prices in the US instead of the UK

natabbotts said:
Price is more of a seller than a warranty. The phone works out over £40 cheaper if I bought it at Play store prices in the US instead of the UK
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I'm going out to Canada for a week at the end of the month, so I'm tempted to buy one over there too. I think there may be something that we can do in terms of sales tax too, but I don't know how this works and whether it's worth the hassle...

Anyone know how long it takes for something to be shipped and arrive from the Google Play Store? like 3-6 business days?

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Anyone know how long it takes for something to be shipped and arrive from the Google Play Store? like 3-6 business days?
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When I got my GNex it was 2 business days, then the stupid UPS decided they will not deliver on Saturday so I have to wait until the next Monday....

[Q] I am flying to Las Vegas on April 1st for a week, how to get the Nexus 4?

Any idea, how to get it for reasonable price while I am there? not those reselling for 500-600$, I would never buy from those.
Any other suggestions while I am there? (for shopping, anything would be appreciated

Carmageddon1984 said:
Any idea, how to get it for reasonable price while I am there? not those reselling for 500-600$, I would never buy from those.
Any other suggestions while I am there? (for shopping, anything would be appreciated
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The only places you can officially buy the phone in the US are from the Google Playstore and T-Mobile. You could check a local T-Mobile in Las Vegas to see if they have any in stock, by April they might but I believe the 8 GB model sells for $500 off contract and $200 for a new 2 year contract. Other than those two options the gougers on EBay and Craigslist are all that's left. I'm not sure why you would think Las Vegas would be any different from the rest of the US?

kzoodroid said:
The only places you can officially buy the phone in the US are from the Google Playstore and T-Mobile. You could check a local T-Mobile in Las Vegas to see if they have any in stock, by April they might but I believe the 8 GB model sells for $500 off contract and $200 for a new 2 year contract. Other than those two options the gougers on EBay and Craigslist are all that's left. I'm not sure why you would think Las Vegas would be any different from the rest of the US?
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Sorry, I actually meant FEBRUARY! not April.
Well, I just thought after a few months of the initial rush, perhaps there is additional information I cant see without checking out the Google Play from a US based IP address.
Why would they release a popular phone, with only one initial batch, and afterwards not do any more batches to meet demand?
Why do them at 300$ a pop if they don't continue to break the high market pricings?
Is there no expected shipment or anything?

Carmageddon1984 said:
Sorry, I actually meant FEBRUARY! not April.
Well, I just thought after a few months of the initial rush, perhaps there is additional information I cant see without checking out the Google Play from a US based IP address.
Why would they release a popular phone, with only one initial batch, and afterwards not do any more batches to meet demand?
Why do them at 300$ a pop if they don't continue to break the high market pricings?
Is there no expected shipment or anything?
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They've sold out all existing and future stock through at least February as they never expected this type of demand for the device based upon the dismal sales records of all other Nexus devices.

US force users, where did you buy your phone?

Im currently using a nexus 5. My screen is broken pretty badlyand and my headphone jack is failing. I really like the specs of the force/turbo. I'm on ATT so I would need to go force. I'd also like to get the force so I can root. But I'm haveing a hard time finding the phone on the market though. Is there anyone in the US that is using the force? If so where did you end up buying it from? Are you enjoying it?

You can get one from Mexico. I've got mine from UK because I went to EU for holidays. I'm really enjoying it. The best Android phone I ever had and the first one I'm using at is. No bl unlock, no root. Strange feeling
Usually I'm unlcoking and flashing custom rom max few days, max one month after purchase.

Did you order from the Motorola EU online store or did you buy it in person somewhere? I looked at the Mexico Motorola store today but it looks like they will only ship to Mexico. Need Google translator to confirm though.

BrownEye02 said:
Did you order from the Motorola EU online store or did you buy it in person somewhere? I looked at the Mexico Motorola store today but it looks like they will only ship to Mexico. Need Google translator to confirm though.
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I won it on ebay auction. Few shops from UK selling it too. Jaocagomez can help you to get one from Mexico.
I'm still in Europe (Budapest) on business trip and flying back to San Jose on February 6. Maybe you can order here and I can bring to you. Not sure is it good idea

Thanks, but I'd rather purchase it so it ships directly to me. No middle man hasels.
I did confirm Motorolas Mexico site will only ship to Mexico.
Hunting around I feel like the phone has not been released yet. I know its going to be released in India in February but from the news articals I read the phone was released in november, yet most webistes say preorder or coming soon. Did I miss something? Even some ebay listings reflect this. Unless you want to spend 900$+.

BrownEye02 said:
Thanks, but I'd rather purchase it so it ships directly to me. No middle man hasels.
I did confirm Motorolas Mexico site will only ship to Mexico.
Hunting around I feel like the phone has not been released yet. I know its going to be released in India in February but from the news articals I read the phone was released in november, yet most webistes say preorder or coming soon. Did I miss something? Even some ebay listings reflect this. Unless you want to spend 900$+.
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I ordered mine from Clove technologies in the UK

Thanks! I saw them before but didn't see an option to select US by just browsing the site. But I just tried checking out and there it was. They even have it listed for a very reasonable price.

A you wish. I wasn't sure should I offer you help or not, take responsibility, etc.
I saw one on swappa and another one on ebay, both USA sellers but prices was really bad. One from Ebay sold for $810!? Then I've checked sites from the link I posted and contacted them. If you're buying from USA then is without VAT but you're importing it in USA so you have to pay duty, tax and maybe stuck at border to get permission for importing uncertified device.
@BladeRunner could you share details how much you paid all together and did you have any problems at border. Would be really useful info for everyone.

Zeljko1234 said:
A you wish. I wasn't sure should I offer you help or not, take responsibility, etc.
I saw one on swappa and another one on ebay, both USA sellers but prices was really bad. One from Ebay sold for $810!? Then I've checked sites from the link I posted and contacted them. If you're buying from USA then is without VAT but you're importing it in USA so you have to pay duty, tax and maybe stuck at border to get permission for importing uncertified device.
@BladeRunner could you share details how much you paid all together and did you have any problems at border. Would be really useful info for everyone.
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I paid ~615 USD. It's been sitting at JFK International since the 21st, but I think that may be because of the Blizzard and a sunday rather than any issues with customs.

BladeRunner said:
I paid ~615 USD. It's been sitting at JFK International since the 21st, but I think that may be because of the Blizzard and a sunday rather than any issues with customs.
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That's without VAT? Would be awesome if we can order phone from UK without VAT and do not pay anything else. Handtec representative told me opposite.

Zeljko1234 said:
That's without VAT? Would be awesome if we can order phone from UK without VAT and do not pay anything else. Handtec representative told me opposite.
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Correct, no VAT for anyone outside of the EU

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Correct, no VAT for anyone outside of the EU
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Yeah but it's hard to believe that you can just import without paying anything. Please keep us up to date.

I want to buy from clove store , please confirm is true if I can buy from UK???? I live in NY thanks

Thanks for looking into this so much guys!
With my gears a turning the past couple of days I think im going to hold off though. Id really like to buy straight from motorola. That way if I have any issues I can just deal with them directly. That and I gain the ability to cusomize the phone if I order through them.
Im being optamistic I know but the phone was listed on Mexico's site on Monday and just noticed it was listed for Brazil today. So you never know.
This is definatly a good thread to keep alive incase others are interested like Makiger.

So I thought I would try and do an "over the phone" order to see if there was anything special they could do. Sadly this was unsuccessful. But the agent I spoke with did say something that may be intreeging to some. It honestly could mean nothign or it could mean real soon. Who knows?
Jessel: Oh, I do apologize for that. As of the moment, this Moto X Force is not yet available on our webiste. What I can suggest is to visit third party vendors and see if they already have Moto X Force available here in the US. We looking forward to this phone to be available soon.
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I think that agent doesn't have a clue what he's talking He's just repeating generic phrase. Turbo 2 is exclusive for Verizon. Do you really think that Moto can offer basically the same device in US and brake exclusive contract with Verizon?
Don't get me wrong, I would like that Moto didn't even make Turbo 2, just Force globally.

makiger said:
I want to buy from clove store , please confirm is true if I can buy from UK???? I live in NY thanks
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you can buy from the UK, it just takes a while to get it.

A listing just popped up on India Amazon a little early for the rumored release date..
http://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B01A8DQSW2?tag=kostprice-21

PSA:
If you do buy from Clove Technology - or any overseas store - and you're paying with PayPal, make sure to change their default currency conversion to use your credit card's exchange rate instead.
Just priced the phone (Jan 29, 2016) as £431.83 shipped to me in the USA. According to XE.com, that's $613.78 USD with a conversion rate of 1 USD = 0.703554 GBP.
PayPal was giving me a rate @ 1 USD = 0.678425045 GBP, which would make the cost $636.52 USD, or an increase of $22.74, which is a full tank of gas for me.

Good Experience With Handtec
I got mine from Handtec UK (Sorry, can't post a link)
It arrived today in Louisiana from FedEx and it only took about 2 days to get here. No problems with customs or VAT whatsoever. All in all, it cost me around $625 (Used PayPal at Checkout), including shipping. Other than the UK wall plug it came with, I'm very satisfied so far.