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ASK ME: Los Angeles / Orange County On Air Dates

Hey if anyone wants to know I can help out with on-air dates for 4G sites in Los Angeles and Orange County. Just give me town and cross-street and I will post periodically with the on-air dates for that area. Most of this area will be covered by Dec. 2010 but many sites are coming up early.
I can't say how I know this but let's just say that this is the most accurate information that Clearwire/Sprint can provide.

Orange County:
Cities: Aliso Viejo and Irvine
Cross Streets: Doesn't really matter just curious for the area.
If it is required:
Alton Pkwy and Irvine Ctr Dr. (Irvine)
Aliso Creek and Pacific Park (Aliso Viejo)

is it coming to suburb areas like the San Fernando Valley?

Hello secret agent! Los Angeles/Silverlake (town). Sunset and Santa Monica junction(cross street). Thanks for any info! Been waiting patiently for 4G in LA.
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City: Woodland Hills
Cross Streets: De Soto and Oxnard
I'd also like to know when the general San Fernando Valley will be live if you can provide a rough date.

Azusa, San Gabriel and Pasadena areas please

What about Long Beach? Cross streets: Spring and Palo Verde

Any idea on Corona, CA?

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sblum said:
What about Long Beach? Cross streets: Spring and Palo Verde
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at mcdonalds or wamu? lol maybe radioshack lol

West Covina
Pasadena
Long Beach

Placentia
Yorba Linda
Fullerton
Brea
The joys of living in the tri-city area.

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mainly long beach
and i spend time in Carson

Inland Empire - Ontario - Pomona - Riverside

How about the Sacramento area? We need some 4G lovin' too before Verizon bumps in with LTE!

If Verizon throws out its LTE and T-Mobile its HSPA+ before Sprint gets its 4G out in major cities we got a real problem and Sprint f-ed up.

Fadakar said:
Placentia
Yorba Linda
Fullerton
Brea
The joys of living in the tri-city area.
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+1 on this one! go to school here

Mission viejo
Ladera ranch
Rancho Santa Margareta
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bobdude5 said:
+1 on this one! go to school here
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Yeah! I go to the university there.
Anaheim/Cypress/Buena Park
From Team HTC Evo.

City of Burbank. Cross streets glenoaks and olive

Victorville?
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Spotted 4g in miramar do

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So Miramar as in California? I am not following the reference of "do"

when I read "do" I heard it as urban slang for "dude"
In context:
"wassup my ninja, we gotsus som fo gees up in tha heezy do!"

4 gizzle in my shizzle fo rizzle holmes.

What ??
Where in Miramar?? I am just a couple of miles down the road.....
I guess I'll be driving back and forth in Mira Mesa tonight...
Danny

Miramar, FL ?

lol, yeah I am on base in miramar... as in San Diego CA do.
Did I use that in the right context?? lol

Any updates on 4g in San Diego?

When I purchased my EVO I was told by the sales guy that San Diego is slated to get 4G in December even though it isn't announced yet. Of course this could be total BS.

gigabit said:
Miramar, FL ?
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Yeah probably FL ... the D and O are close to the F and L on the keyboard... fat fingas yo

Used car salesman
The salesman I bout my used '08 Honda Civic from assured me that the previous owner was a little old lady that only drove the car to church and back on Sundays.
Shortly after buying the vehicle, I've had to replace the tranny and have had the engine rebuilt.
SDKind said:
When I purchased my EVO I was told by the sales guy that San Diego is slated to get 4G in December even though it isn't announced yet. Of course this could be total BS.
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any other sightings in San diego?

NO San Diego.... What's the deal?

Miramar As in San Diego... that would be great im in chula vista a tad bit south of Miramar.. I was also told that 4g is going to be Available in SD in December

socos said:
Yeah probably FL ... the D and O are close to the F and L on the keyboard... fat fingas yo
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I'm in Miramar, FL and there have been reports of 4G all around town.
In November there is a Sprint 4G 'event' at the Hard Rock Hotel.

What's up with the "do"?
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oceanside in the pipeline
I recently saw a posted notice for a permit application to install a 4g tower at oceanside blvd and pch for Clearwire. I'm assuming Sprint customers would have access to Clear towers as Sprint is a major shareholder and the company was started by the guy who started Nextel, so there is definitely some corporate incest going on here. Go to clear.com for more info on their plans for expansion for more insight. My guess is within a year or so do
*Sent from a Droid that's way cooler than yours.

I live and work in central Orange County (CA) and I haven't found many places around here where I can't get a 4G signal. I don't leave 4G on by default, though, because the signal is still inconsistent enough to have a negative impact on my battery life. That, and the 3G network is fast enough for my typical data use.
But it sure is nice to have 4G when I need it.
Pete

Well, no 4g in imperial beach. Of course I wasn't expecting it...

To bad 4G cant reach to southern OC, only to Irvine isnt far enough.
I havent heard it being announced for San Diego yet so its weird the sales rep would say that. Even check Clear's website, SD isnt listed as a future city.
Got to hope for the best tho

4G in South Bay

I live in Campbell and been getting at least 1 bar of 4G consistently. Not a good signal but at least I'm getting something. Getting full 4G coverage in Cupertino and Santa Clara. My friend's a store manager at Sprint and told me they're launching 4G officially in October. Hope this is a good news for some of you. Thought I should share.
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There's no way they're launching in San Francisco by next month. There's no signal anywhere even for testing. Maybe the san jose market will launch next month but san francisco will definitely take a while to launch.
Because, I'm pretty sure, all 4G launches are preceded by at least some sort of test signals... Which we have nothing in SF.
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Sorry to hear that man. Hopefully they will. It would be silly for Sprint if they don't launch it in frisco considering the huge market.
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Yeah, I work a lot in Palo Alto, and the whole downtown has the Clear Innovation network live, and there is some decent speeds. The other day while going on 101 South near Capitol Expwy exit in San Jose, I got over 7mbps in my car, while driving. That was epic.

oxeneers said:
Yeah, I work a lot in Palo Alto, and the whole downtown has the Clear Innovation network live, and there is some decent speeds. The other day while going on 101 South near Capitol Expwy exit in San Jose, I got over 7mbps in my car, while driving. That was epic.
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wow that's awesome! i live a mile away from that area, i'm going to have to test it out. where i work near 101 and lawrence i can get 3.8-4.5 depending on if i have 1 or 2 bars.

I have managed to get 8Mbps in downtown San Jose. Covers the area past the Pavillion and up to the airport. Downtown has the best speeds though.

Just last weekend i got ~9Mbps near Walmart, Mountain View. Haven't got any 4G signal in palo alto area.

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I have managed to get 8Mbps in downtown San Jose. Covers the area past the Pavillion and up to the airport. Downtown has the best speeds though.
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i'm probably being too optimistic, but i hope there's a signal inside the arena! sharks season coming up soon, so i'll be in there before long.

4G in Toledo

4G is now in Toledo! Hopefully soon they expand to the surrounding suburbs.
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exciting
10char

Excellent glad to hear it, welcome to 4G.

I live in Clyde, about 40 mins away. I am pumped to try this out. Where exactly in Toledo have you experienced this? I know that in Columbus, 4g was only available near Polaris. I really hope 4g makes it way east to me, even if it does suck my battery more than one of those pale, glittery vampires from Twilight.

Ok, where is a cool place in the 4g coverage area I can go to hang out for a while and test the 4g on my phone? I'm SE Michigan and Toledo is the closest I have to a place with 4g, and I am starting to become obsessed with testing it out
Looking for something off 75 before the 475 interchange where I can occupy myself for a couple hours to test it out

4g in Youngstown Ohio
4g is now live in Youngstown Ohio. Anybody else notice?

Its live in downtown I believe. Check clearwire's map tho to be sure. Watch a Walleyes game or go to the restaurants that aren't closed yet on the docks.
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Im originally from toledo and coverage actually looks spotty downtown by the water. If I were you id start at westfield shopping town off 475/talmadge even if the map doesn't show it there, and proceed with caution as you travel toward downtown on monroe, maybe try again near westgate mall ( best buy monroe/secor or sears or home depot by central/secor) but lock your doors if you end up near monroe and detroit
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wrb123 said:
...but lock your doors if you end up near monroe and detroit
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Lol, well if you ever come visit us in detroit, lock your doors.... anywhere actually! lol
Thanks though

I currently live in West Toledo (Monroe/Douglas area) and I'm not able to get a 4G connection. I work downtown, so I will try when I go into the office tomorrow.
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Actually just south of homewood and hillcrest is willys park which might be best for you, right off I-75 and wide open area in the center of coverage, and a safe area compared to a lot of the coverage area.
Or, maybe the toledo hospital in case you get shot (kidding).
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If I remember correctly its all based around the new arenas which would be smart.
Edit: Looking at the map right now, it seems that spans from Dorr Street to as far north as Eleanor but coverage is sparse. It does seem to be around the new arenas though Right around Michigan Street and Erie Street. Most of Bancroft and Monroe is covered downtown. As is Detroit. Maybe I'll have to flash over to CM 6.2.1 Alpha and test it out when I go to another Walleye game.
Edit 2: Looks like only the Huntington Center is covered. Fifth Third is just out of range. At least thats what the map says.
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I was able to pick up the signal on my commute to work going 475 east to 75 south. I connected to Sprint's 4G somewhere between the Detroit Ave exit and the Collingwood exit, with 1 or 2 bars as I headed downtown. Once downtown on Washington Ave, my signal fluctuated between 0 and 1 bar, and was basically lost once I got to Summit St.
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Thank you for the info
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I can confirm 4g in Toledo. I work near Dura and N. Detroit Ave and got 4g Connection.

Where are you guys getting the map from? Sprints site?
I live near Central/Douglas, and no 4g here yet. I'm surprised its working downtown, as Toledo wasn't supposed to get it til late this year. Maybe they are just testing it.

sitlet said:
Where are you guys getting the map from? Sprints site?
I live near Central/Douglas, and no 4g here yet. I'm surprised its working downtown, as Toledo wasn't supposed to get it til late this year. Maybe they are just testing it.
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Check the clear.com coverage map since that is the same as sprint wimax. You might have to zoom in to the right level and wait for the green transparent overlay to load.
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I cannot believe that Sprint puts 4G service in a run down town like Toledo and Phoenix still hasn't had 4G turned on yet.
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I was also wondering what map you were looking at, thanks for that. I went ahead and downloaded their "Got Clear?" App from the market.
There's a wider range than I anticipated. Of course my house is just out of range, but what I experienced this morning on my way into the office seems to correspond with the map coverage.
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cbpagent72 said:
I cannot believe that Sprint puts 4G service in a run down town like Toledo and Phoenix still hasn't had 4G turned on yet.
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As a Toledo native, I cant really argue with that!
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Sprint LTE Coverage Area

Will this make you finally change your Evo?... check it out and hopefully your area is getting hooked up....
http://tinyurl.com/888mbhx
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I was looking at that last night and thinking, no matter how great the EVO x is my EVO still holds it's own. Since Michigan will be blanketed in LTE by 2014, I am going to wait, Sprint has great plans, but lightsquared drama has to negatively impact their LTE roll out.
And why buy a phone in 2012 when I can't use 4G until a year or 2 years later. I did that with EVO, and assumed a Verizon kind of roll out.
I really hope Sprint stays on track with LTE roll out and they may retain me otherwise VZW with unlimited data might get my business (yes if u try hard enough u can get it)
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Yea, it says they will be ready by 2014, but with no specific rollout dates for my area, Michigan, I will be switching to Verizon in the next few months, once they get a nest gen phone like the One X or something similar. Verizon has had working 4g for over a year in my area now. There's no way I'm waiting another 2 years to get it here, and have dial-up speed 3g in the meantime. I gave Sprint 12 years of my business, and I hate to leave, but in today's world data is everything, and I need that to be able to do my job.

With the announcement one the HTC EVO One for Sprint, I am puzzled as to how they decide what cities to start their rollout of LTE. San Antonio? Baltimore? Kansas City?
No New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago, etc.
OK, so Houston and Dallas. Meh.
With an LTE iPhone possibly coming out later this year, how many iPhonies do they think will hang on waiting while both Verizon and AT&T (yuk) are offering LTE in the biggest markets?
Sure, they're saying just wait, but really, how many people have the discipline? I probably will, but only because returning to AT&T is not an option as far as I'm concerned, and I hear horror stories about big red nickle and dimeing their customers.
What incentive do I have to get the HTC EVO One when there won't be any LTE here in LA, while my old EVO can still use WiMax?
On an unrelated question: does anyone know if LTE phones automatically switch between 3G and LTE? One thing I always hated about WiMax is having to manually turn it on every time I want to use it!

Pretty sure LTE would require manual control just like WiMax.
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leebo said:
OK, so Houston and Dallas. Meh.
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Hey now! Some of use are awful excited that Dallas is on that list!
But seriously. I'm wondering if the Dallas choice was because of the AT&T headquarters and the fact that Sprint phones are getting MURDERED by att speeds. (At least where i'm at)

Nothing against Dallas. Texas is a great country.
I just think Sprint needs to make a big splash about LTE if they want to limit churn. Dan Hesse has done an outstanding job so far, imo. But if I were in charge of Sprint, I would make NY,and LA, among the first cities, just for PR purposes.
Even aliens know to blow up one of those two cities when they first invade Earth!

SilverStone641 said:
Hey now! Some of use are awful excited that Dallas is on that list!
But seriously. I'm wondering if the Dallas choice was because of the AT&T headquarters and the fact that Sprint phones are getting MURDERED by att speeds. (At least where i'm at)
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At&t damn sure will drop a call where I am at if it even goes through but those damn internet speeds are damn lovely.... I hate them for that! LOL

I live in Overland Park. The reason it might be coming to the Kansas City area is because the world headquarters is located in Overland Park, KS? Just a guess lol. (btw, KS has more than tumbleweed in the streets lol)

Am I the only one who thinks the state outlines on this map are messed up?

ronartest2005 said:
Am I the only one who thinks the state outlines on this map are messed up?
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It's the larger states they don't have much coverage in, so they generalize more.
I'm personally going to switch to the new Evo when it comes out. LTE IN JERSEY AND PHILLY YEA! FIRST PICKS.

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It's the larger states they don't have much coverage in, so they generalize more.
I'm personally going to switch to the new Evo when it comes out. LTE IN JERSEY AND PHILLY YEA! FIRST PICKS.
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So maybe you could tell me, does it look like southern indiana is covered?

ronartest2005 said:
So maybe you could tell me, does it look like southern indiana is covered?
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Looks like it to me. Don't know if its first or second round though.

monkeychef said:
Looks like it to me. Don't know if its first or second round though.
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My area is first round starts in may I'm super excited!
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leebo said:
On an unrelated question: does anyone know if LTE phones automatically switch between 3G and LTE? One thing I always hated about WiMax is having to manually turn it on every time I want to use it!
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Wimax does automatically switch, as long as you leave the 4g radio on all the time - which kills batt like a mofo
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
FIRST ROUND MARKETS (14):
First round markets have no preceding markets before them. NV OEM's will mobilize in these markets and begin deployment. These markets will deploy slowly as there is a significant learning curve to Network Vision. Most first round markets started between December 2011 and March 2012.
Atlanta/Athens* Link
Houston* Link
DFW* (Dallas/Ft. Worth) Link
San Antonio* Link
Baltimore* Link
Kansas City* Link
Chicago Link
San Francisco Link
Boston Link
Washington, D.C. Link
New York City/Westchester Link
LA Metro (Los Angeles) Link
Central Jersey Link
Austin Link
SECOND ROUND MARKETS (27):
Second round markets start based on First Round markets completing before them. There is a lot of variability of when Second Round markets start, between June/July 2012 and December 2012. It will all depend on how quickly the First Round market deployments go. Some preliminary work is being done in advance in these Second Markets as well. It's possible that if delays begin to occur in the First Round markets, NV OEM's may hire up additional subcontractors and get some key Second Round markets going. Stay tuned to S4GRU.com for updates.
South Bay (San Jose) Link
West Washington (Seattle) Link
West Michigan (Grand Rapids/Lansing) Link
Oregon/SW Washington (Portland) Link
Charlotte Link
Nashville Link
New Orleans Link
Philadelphia Metro Link
Southern Connecticut Link
PR/VI (Puerto Rico/Virgin Islands) Link
San Diego Link
Northern Jersey Link
Orange County, California Link
Raleigh/Durham Link
Orlando Link
Miami/West Palm Link
Riverside/San Bernardino Link
Indianapolis Link
East Michigan (Detroit) Link
Norfolk (Hampton Roads) Link
Long Island Link
Tampa Link
Jacksonville Link
Memphis Link
Minnesota Link
South West Florida Link
Ft. Wayne/South Bend Link

I also heard that maybe just maybe the Note may be coming over as well the HTC One... Sprint may be stepping there game up.. After reading up on the new HTC phone I may be coming back as long as though LTE speeds kick in like they should in my area...

Michigan part of the 2nd wave and no Ohio, c'mon man! This is why I hate Ohio, can't wait to move..LOL
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I don't know about the rest of you, but forget LTE coverage -- I'm just waiting for Sprint to get regular coverage on the tower that's been my in my neighborhood like they promised (and their coverage map showed) for the last 3 years!
I have found the Wimax coverage in Florida to be more than adequate. No, I can't get it at my house, but I have WiFi there. But just about everywhere else when I'm traveling or in even small local cities, I get Wimax.
Sprint is about two years behind on LTE. Not very enticing to stay with them after my contract is up in the Fall. The only reason why I didn't demand early contract termination is because I like my EVO 4G phone and don't feel like spending another $300 on a new Verizon phone at the moment.

Nah Verizons, and att switches. So sprints will prob
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