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Only had the phone for two days so this should improve even more:
overclocking to 1.4ghz, under clocking when screen off to 0.3. 9 hours screen off, didn't lose a percent, still 100 on desire Z. EPIC!
thats good to hear ! Cant wait till i get my hands on it! damnit ! 5 or more days togo
Did you have any other functions enabled? 3G/WiFi? Sync'ing with FB or Twitter apps? Anything like that?
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Did you have any other functions enabled? 3G/WiFi? Sync'ing with FB or Twitter apps? Anything like that?
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Everything enabled daffa, Twitter every 30 mins, sky news.. no facebook though, weather every hour
Its a power conserving beast;P
JD
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Everything enabled daffa, Twitter every 30 mins, sky news.. no facebook though, weather every hour
Its a power conserving beast;P
JD
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how many hours can you get out of it when you are using it throughout the day, e.g. email, internet browsing, twitter, bit of music and phone calls? using data and wifi?. Im on my 5th day and averaging about 14 hours, hoping that the battery hasnt settled yet, otherwise my hope is for the NAND being hacked and roms for optimal performance!
Do you actually get more real-life performance out of the overclocking (snappier menus, faster app launching), or the only place where it shows is the benchmark? Is Sense faster, or is the difference not visible (0.8 vs 1.4)?
On the other hand, underclocking could be really useful to preserve battery. But doesn't the processor underclock on its own when in standby (by design), do we need to use 3rd party apps?
darthmelk said:
Do you actually get more real-life performance out of the overclocking (snappier menus, faster app launching), or the only place where it shows is the benchmark? Is Sense faster, or is the difference not visible (0.8 vs 1.4)?
On the other hand, underclocking could be really useful to preserve battery. But doesn't the processor underclock on its own when in standby (by design), do we need to use 3rd party apps?
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contrary to what you should expect,
overclocking this SoC just hightens the clock's max roof from 800MHz to 1GHz, 1.2 or 1.4GHz, not the "permamnt" MHz count,
because it auto-fluctuates and adapt depending on usage
AND with the SetCPU app (which I assume JupiterDroid is using),
cycles per second can be optimized even more.
The phone won't go up all over the way to 1.4GHz when idle, but will maintain a very low cycles per second clocks, thus improving battery life
Here's my experience w/ battery life and overclocking the Desire Z (for today).
I only have it set to overclock to 1GHz and I have typical SetCPU profiles to underclock to 245MHz when not in use.
My phone has been off the charger since 9am (5.5 hours) and is sitting at 92% battery power. This includes permanent connection to WiFi (no sleep policy), receiving updates to email/gmail and some text conversations with Trillian and a 15 minute email (composed w/ keyboard).
Compared to my old HTC Hero (Running VR 1.5.0), this is a huge improvement, though with VR 1.5.0 I could run JuiceDefender & have similar battery life with the right profile setup.
Yup I even notice better battery life in actual use. My friends were running youtube and doing web searches like crazy on my phone last night + games for a good 5 straight hours and the battery was holding up well.
I've got to say, the battery life on the Desire Z is outstanding... 18 hours with light use and battery still @ 92%!!!
What about 1GHz core compile?
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Raspster said:
I've got to say, the battery life on the Desire Z is outstanding... 18 hours with light use and battery still @ 92%!!!
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are you using set CPU and overclock?
Is anybody getting time without a signal percentage in the cell standby item in the battery usage? Im getting 12% sometimes more and im getting about 14 hours battery life with moderate use! I dont feel im getting the best out of the battery and worried this might be part of the issue!
Hi guys.. sorry for the novice post.. i have had my Desire Z for a day and am interested in overclocking it - but
a) are you saying it possibly INCREASES battery life?
b) is the speed diff noticeable in day to day use - or just benchmarks?
c) How do i overclock - what is SetCPU and how does it work?
I don't think my battery has settled yet .. I hope not anyway, and I just (temp) rooted and overclocked to 1Ghz last night, haven't tried higher yet because I feel like my battery is kind of just disappearing so far, none of this epic "all day and then some" stuff some people are reporting. I think it may be that fact that I've been using the device pretty sporadically so far, and it hasn't had a chance to settle.
Also "cell standby" seems to be using a lot of battery, and I'm thinking that's because I'm unfortunately in a spot where I get extremely poor to no coverage most of the day. So I'm thinking the cell radio is using a lot of juice trying to get that 1 bar I sometimes see here. There didn't seem to be a way to easily disable the cell radio without disabling wifi though, until I found this "airplane mode wifi tool" on the market which I just installed.
So now my cell radio GPS and bluetooth are all off while wifi is on, hopefully that will make a difference. I'm wondering if using 802.11n is more draining than 802.11g also I know both my router and the desire z support N but "network info II" reports I'm only connecting at 65Mbps, while my laptop connects at 150Mbps.
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Hi guys.. sorry for the novice post.. i have had my Desire Z for a day and am interested in overclocking it - but
a) are you saying it possibly INCREASES battery life?
b) is the speed diff noticeable in day to day use - or just benchmarks?
c) How do i overclock - what is SetCPU and how does it work?
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I don't think there's any way overclocking can actually increase battery life, but managing CPU speed with SetCPU seems to be more effective than the default behaviour for some reason, so the fact you're overclocking when using it but underclocking when not using it results in longer battery life. I'm pretty sure it does regulate the speed automatically without setCPU but maybe it doesn't clock the CPU down to absolute minimum by default when the screen is off?
Anyway the noob friendly guide to overclocking by JD is on the forum with an [INSTRUCTIONS] tag.. I can't link to it apparently since I'm a noob.
Edit: Added link ~TheRomMistress
Thanks guys. Main thing i'm curious about is whether i just install SetCPU or i have to "root"
Yes, SetCPU needs root access.
Still trying to figure out how the OP is underclocking to .3 using SetCPU.. Lowest I can go is 245..
Unless I'm an idiot and completely missing something.. I'd love to turn this phone way down when the screen right off. As it sits, I'm lucky to get a full day from a fully charged battery.
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Hi guys.. sorry for the novice post.. i have had my Desire Z for a day and am interested in overclocking it - but
a) are you saying it possibly INCREASES battery life?
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Your mileage may vary
You can check by yourself and then uninstall if you are not satisfied (or just reboot and changes will dissappear, since we don't have permanent root yet)
b) is the speed diff noticeable in day to day use - or just benchmarks?
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Again: try by yourself and please report back, we are just starting with the desire Z and every experience/oppinion is welcomed
c) How do i overclock - what is SetCPU and how does it work?
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Already linked
I've had a very sudden and dramatic improvement in battery life and I thought that I'd post what seems to have worked for me.
I installed setCPU and set it for
768/254 on demand - main
245/245 performance screen off
368/368 performance - battery<41%
battery<101% 768/245 on demand
I installed Ultimate JuiceDefender and set it for extreme - blocking all connectivity except for a white-list
I decided that I could do a better job than the auto screen, so I installed Brightness level and I keep it generally at about 20% and then flick it up a bit if I need it.
I disabled auto rotation and now toggle the screen with a widget.
I've taken phone calls, recorded phone calls, checked email a few times, tweeted - very often using wifi which I operate using a toggle widget
I had the phone on charge all night switched off.
Disconnected it at 8.00 this morning and at 6.30 this evening, the JD widget tells me that there is still 12hrs and 28 mins of battery time left.
Considering the size of the screen and what this phone does. And considering the very poor battery life - 8hrs max I was getting before, I am far happier and the phone now becomes a practical item to have.
Whats your percentage battery left?
seems to be saying 72%
I also noticed that for the first time screen usage is less than running usage.
Screen consumption has always been the big factor on phone - and I see that is what people say on the forum, so I'm very pleased to have reduced it so well.
The Brightness level app allows a variable control whereas all the other screen controllers have seen allow you only to rotate through three or four preset brightness levels.
Brightness Level lets you do that with a widget but it also has a slide bar, which is what I was looking for
So basically you've downgraded the DHD to a level of a Nokia S40 device imo As this has been covered by many others in many other battery life related threads I'm just saying this short and simple. Just use the device as it is supposed to, enjoy the awesome features it provides at the full potential and don't get fixated on the battery life, it'll get you through the day no problem (doesn't include playing angry birds for three hours straight ) and just plug it in when you have the chance.
About battery, some tips, my battery life is around 2 days with normal usage of phone, only i dont use 3g only wi-fi:
Brightness - between 25% and 50%
When you on the internet and use native explorer for android go to "Menu-more-settings-enable plugins" and set it to "On demand"
Tupe *#*#4636*#*# - "Phone information" and set "Preffered network type" to "GSM Auto Prl"
Android Revolution HD 2.15 rom
lejars1 said:
I've had a very sudden and dramatic improvement in battery life and I thought that I'd post what seems to have worked for me.
I installed setCPU and set it for
768/254 on demand - main
245/245 performance screen off
368/368 performance - battery<41%
battery<101% 768/245 on demand
I installed Ultimate JuiceDefender and set it for extreme - blocking all connectivity except for a white-list
I decided that I could do a better job than the auto screen, so I installed Brightness level and I keep it generally at about 20% and then flick it up a bit if I need it.
I disabled auto rotation and now toggle the screen with a widget.
I've taken phone calls, recorded phone calls, checked email a few times, tweeted - very often using wifi which I operate using a toggle widget
I had the phone on charge all night switched off.
Disconnected it at 8.00 this morning and at 6.30 this evening, the JD widget tells me that there is still 12hrs and 28 mins of battery time left.
Considering the size of the screen and what this phone does. And considering the very poor battery life - 8hrs max I was getting before, I am far happier and the phone now becomes a practical item to have.
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your on stock rom mate?
i can see that you can charge your phone while its turnd off..
i think on customized ROM like ARHD LD CORE cm7 and etc cannot charge their phone while its off because iT will BOOTup to recovery mode
Doesn't performance mode just keep the CPU clock on it's maximum? It would rather shorten the battery life than prolong it.
Why buy a smartphone and use it like a landline lol i hammer my phone and still get 10-14 hours out of it, thats fine for me, i only get 3hrs out of my laptop lol
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Mate there is something eating your battery if u only get 8 hours battery life.
These adjustments you made are unnecessary if you find the culprit that is eating your battery, why get a phone like the dhd and run it on 20% brightness and lower the cpu to such a level.
Have you used spare parts to check your battery usage?
Im currently on 40% and my phone has been unplugged since 27 hours and I don't even have setcpu installed.
Maybe you should post details on your barret usage!
Swyped from my sexy galaxy tab
But I'm not compromising anything now. I'm completely happy with the way that the phone works for me now.
I'm actually operating the screen at 12% for most of the time - when I am not outside and it doesn't present any difficulty for me.
Obviously I would always like better battery life and I'll look for more ways to improve it.
Doesn't performance mode just keep the CPU clock on it's maximum? It would rather shorten the battery life than prolong it.
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According to setCPU, if you set it to on demand, it will keep on scanning for required power level. Performance automatically goes to the max. Apparently on demand uses slightly more power so they advice to use performance when possible. So I set the same max/min figure and use a performance governor.
i would actually consider rooting the phone as an alternative, or getting a bigger battery. i have alot of issue with the battery life previously, but after switching rom, it actually help alot
Well it is rooted to enable JD and setcpu to work. But I haven't dared go further because I am still trying to understand the entire process - and also the way back!
I probably will eventually.
I've ordered a 1500 Mugen - and if that actually exists and if it is an improvement on the stock battery then that will advance things as well.
I'm very pleased with the improvement I have achieved so far because at least I'm able to take the thing off the tit for a full working day and use it as a real mobile phone!!
lampz said:
your on stock rom mate?
i can see that you can charge your phone while its turnd off..
i think on customized ROM like ARHD LD CORE cm7 and etc cannot charge their phone while its off because iT will BOOTup to recovery mode
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this is only true if you're using CMW Recovery 3.x.x.x
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this is only true if you're using CMW Recovery 3.x.x.x
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No, its on all versions of cwm, you can still charge your phone though, even in recovery
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No, its on all versions of cwm, you can still charge your phone though, even in recovery
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Yup2x, it's true that we can charge it very well while in recovery mode. I was referring to the situation wherein the printer reboots to recovery as soon as you plug in the charger to your DHD. Some users have reported that and they are all using 3.x.x.x.
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So I set the same max/min figure and use a performance governor.
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As far as I've understood, you will always have max frequency when performance is applied. So there is no use setting min value really as it doesn't matter.
Sent from my %s using XDA Premium App, pardon my typos.
Vispe85 said:
So basically you've downgraded the DHD to a level of a Nokia S40 device imo As this has been covered by many others in many other battery life related threads I'm just saying this short and simple. Just use the device as it is supposed to, enjoy the awesome features it provides at the full potential and don't get fixated on the battery life, it'll get you through the day no problem (doesn't include playing angry birds for three hours straight ) and just plug it in when you have the chance.
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By far the most excellent advice. I totally agree with you.
What are the best ways to save battery on a zte blade using latest cm7?
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I would love to know if anyone can describe what their battery life is like. I am using cm7.0.3 and after full charge, on stand by mode I have 80% left after 8 hours. Is it good? Bad? Tips to improve this please!
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drupad2drupad said:
I would love to know if anyone can describe what their battery life is like. I am using cm7.0.3 and after full charge, on stand by mode I have 80% left after 8 hours. Is it good? Bad? Tips to improve this please!
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in standby? i get about 3% battery drain playing a game for 4-5 minutes. mines really bad..
drupad2drupad said:
I would love to know if anyone can describe what their battery life is like. I am using cm7.0.3 and after full charge, on stand by mode I have 80% left after 8 hours. Is it good? Bad? Tips to improve this please!
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Tips: amoled therefore use black background
- lower brightness
- disable data connection
- use task killers
I get around a day's use with fairly heavy usage. But games do suck the juice up.
@Drupad yours sounds good, although I'm using N78.
Use Green Power from the Market to turn off Wi-Fi when screens turns off.
Don't overclock.
For my 2¢, I've been using the SMARTASS kernel governor for a while with pretty good results for standby (CyanogenMod settings, Performance, CPU settings).
olyloh6696 said:
in standby? i get about 3% battery drain playing a game for 4-5 minutes. mines really bad..
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Hi Oly, Nice to see a familiar name in this forum I was wondering if you are as regular here
If yours is bad - I guess it's because of CM7.0.0 - upgrade it, they have fixed that bug (read on CM7 forums)
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Tips: amoled therefore use black background
- lower brightness
- disable data connection
- use task killers
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My brightness is set to 'auto' - should I stop that?
I don't use data connection for anything other than email sync. However good you mentioned task killer. I have installed advanced task killer and set it to kill all tasks when my screen is off. However, as soon as I activate the phone from sleep mode, I can see at least 8-10 apps already active! - could it be a dodgy task killer?
k0zmic said:
I get around a day's use with fairly heavy usage. But games do suck the juice up.
@Drupad yours sounds good, although I'm using N78.
Use Green Power from the Market to turn off Wi-Fi when screens turns off.
Don't overclock.
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I get more than a day actually now that I've upgraded to latest nightly CM7. They seem to have fixed to battery drain. I charged my phone last night. I've listened to about 45 minutes of online radio while travelling, made 1 call (about 2 mins) and played angry birds for 10-15 minutes. It's been 9 hours since I first used my phone and I have 53% battery remaining. I am also using a live background with auto-screen brightness.
In a nutshell - I think CM7 N85 is better than N78 - give it a go if you like!
I don't use Wi-Fi. I only use data connection from Orange (they seem to have given me unlimited internet so will get as much as I can - yes because I don't like Orange.)
Overclocking doesnt seem to work on my blade. Anything more than 604 and my phone restarts if I use more than 2 apps!
drupad2drupad said:
My brightness is set to 'auto' - should I stop that?
I don't use data connection for anything other than email sync. However good you mentioned task killer. I have installed advanced task killer and set it to kill all tasks when my screen is off. However, as soon as I activate the phone from sleep mode, I can see at least 8-10 apps already active! - could it be a dodgy task killer?
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hi drupad
task killers are different in android apps need to constantly run in the background
its just the way it is (not like WM task manager!) it's normal for the apps to start running again after standby
thanks for pointing out cm7.0.3 changelog thingy! i'll try to reflash to 7.0.3 when im free sometime
unfortunately i'm not as active in SF forums as much... (more in sgs2 + sgt forums)
you should check out the modaco SF forum,! i think it has different roms there!
cheers
harmohn said:
For my 2¢, I've been using the SMARTASS kernel governor for a while with pretty good results for standby (CyanogenMod settings, Performance, CPU settings).
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Sorry everyone, for making 4 posts, but someone I can't multi-quote on this forum today! Tried loggin out, restarting etc, but it won't let me multi-quote!
I was using ondemand kernel governor, but I think I will give SmartAss a try, thanks for the suggestion! However, could anyone explain what this Kernel Governors are for? Which is the best (presume it's SmartAss) and which is the worst?
olyloh6696 said:
hi drupad
task killers are different in android apps need to constantly run in the background
its just the way it is (not like WM task manager!) it's normal for the apps to start running again after standby
thanks for pointing out cm7.0.3 changelog thingy! i'll try to reflash to 7.0.3 when im free sometime
unfortunately i'm not as active in SF forums as much... (more in sgs2 + sgt forums)
you should check out the modaco SF forum,! i think it has different roms there!
cheers
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I spend almost 3 nights (nearly!) reading Modaco forums, but nothing impressed me as much as CM7! CM7 was the only ROM that had most if not all feature functioning. I am presuming android custom roms have more 'functionality' issues than WM! And if you are going to 7.0.3 - also get nightly 85! It's Gingerbread 2.3.4!
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I spend almost 3 nights (nearly!) reading Modaco forums, but nothing impressed me as much as CM7! CM7 was the only ROM that had most if not all feature functioning. I am presuming android custom roms have more 'functionality' issues than WM! And if you are going to 7.0.3 - also get nightly 85! It's Gingerbread 2.3.4!
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thanks for advice mate
also to my previous question, i have my brightness set to around 50% (not on auto)
also, i advice to use normal wallpapers, not live!
(as pretty as they are, they suck up power!
also drupad, coming from an fellow spb shell winMo fan, you could give SpB Shell 3D a whizz on your SF
i made a thread abt this (tg01 forum) some time back comparing it to spb 3.5 winmo.
it is faster than it was on tg01 and a bit prettier
also it may save some battery.... (if you should, try launcherpro - i think its really good for battery too!)
cheers
olyloh6696 said:
thanks for advice mate
also to my previous question, i have my brightness set to around 50% (not on auto)
also, i advice to use normal wallpapers, not live!
(as pretty as they are, they suck up power!
also drupad, coming from an fellow spb shell winMo fan, you could give SpB Shell 3D a whizz on your SF
i made a thread abt this (tg01 forum) some time back comparing it to spb 3.5 winmo.
it is faster than it was on tg01 and a bit prettier
also it may save some battery.... (if you should, try launcherpro - i think its really good for battery too!)
cheers
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Thanks a lot for that advice mate! I had completely forgotten about the SPB Shell! It will be very interesting to see how it integrates to already beautiful android layout! I am going to give it a go straightaway! Will report back soon.. I used launcherpro for a few hours, but soon realised as customizable as it might be, it's only good if I buy a full version (gives more options!) So ended up uninstalling. Won't be spending much on market just yet, may be after a couple of pay days
It's AWESOME! Definitely better than Stock, AWD and LauncherPro! It's sleek and smooth. I like it already.. however, will give it some try in over-all functionality. The app drawer scrolling has improved by 150%... Doesn't lag AT ALL..
Thanks for suggesting this mate.. If the functionality is good for day to day use and if battery drain is minimal, then this is my THE APP!
Already searching for themes and tweaks
drupad2drupad said:
It's AWESOME! Definitely better than Stock, AWD and LauncherPro! It's sleek and smooth. I like it already.. however, will give it some try in over-all functionality. The app drawer scrolling has improved by 150%... Doesn't lag AT ALL..
Thanks for suggesting this mate.. If the functionality is good for day to day use and if battery drain is minimal, then this is my THE APP!
Already searching for themes and tweaks
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yeh it's very smooth somehow! launcher pro / stock app drawer is laggy and choppy to scroll through, but buttery smooth on spb!
new carousel is a nice improvement on the android version compared to wm3.5 right?
it is actually incredibly smooth on SF ! it is also cheaper than WM version..
however, i only use it on my SF, not on my other devices... (some reason it lags a bit on my galaxy tab... )
drupad2drupad said:
Sorry everyone, for making 4 posts, but someone I can't multi-quote on this forum today! Tried loggin out, restarting etc, but it won't let me multi-quote!
I was using ondemand kernel governor, but I think I will give SmartAss a try, thanks for the suggestion! However, could anyone explain what this Kernel Governors are for? Which is the best (presume it's SmartAss) and which is the worst?
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Kernel governors from my understanding help determine the way the device responds to dynamic frequency scaling.
Performance is the best for device response but consumes the most battery as it's hitting the upper frequency constantly. Powersave is the opposite as it's hitting the lowest clock speed constantly.
Interactive polls cpu demand based on a timer rather than just currant demand (uses a bit more juice than ondemand).
Ondemand gives a good balance between response and battery.
Conservative is similar to ondemand but ramps up/ down to currant demand more smoothly (at the detriment to response).
Smartass governor caps the max sleeping (ie. screen off) frequency to 352Mhz, so uses less battery. However it acts like Interactive when the screen is on & can use more power than ondemand.
For me Smartass works best on my blade, however on my N1 ondemand is better - go figure
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yeh it's very smooth somehow! launcher pro / stock app drawer is laggy and choppy to scroll through, but buttery smooth on spb!
new carousel is a nice improvement on the android version compared to wm3.5 right?
it is actually incredibly smooth on SF ! it is also cheaper than WM version..
however, i only use it on my SF, not on my other devices... (some reason it lags a bit on my galaxy tab... )
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Yes 120% smoother and improved carousel! I think they've got it almost right this time.. I've noticed the reduction in SPB widgets though. Thought they might give integration to most of the shell. I wonder what WM users might do without these integrations, widgets. I think buying SF is one of the good decisions I've made this year - it's worth the money for android phone! (Still jealous of your SGS2 though!)
harmohn said:
Kernel governors from my understanding help determine the way the device responds to dynamic frequency scaling.
Performance is the best for device response but consumes the most battery as it's hitting the upper frequency constantly. Powersave is the opposite as it's hitting the lowest clock speed constantly.
Interactive polls cpu demand based on a timer rather than just currant demand (uses a bit more juice than ondemand).
Ondemand gives a good balance between response and battery.
Conservative is similar to ondemand but ramps up/ down to currant demand more smoothly (at the detriment to response).
Smartass governor caps the max sleeping (ie. screen off) frequency to 352Mhz, so uses less battery. However it acts like Interactive when the screen is on & can use more power than ondemand.
For me Smartass works best on my blade, however on my N1 ondemand is better - go figure
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Thanks a lot for that Harmohn, that makes sense now! It's more or less CPU performance profile in a way, right?
Now it makes more sense to put it on SmartAss! It's been working fine so far, but I am not overclocking at all. Will stick to 604, 122 for now and that saves me a bit of battery hopefully!
drupad2drupad said:
Yes 120% smoother and improved carousel! I think they've got it almost right this time.. I've noticed the reduction in SPB widgets though. Thought they might give integration to most of the shell. I wonder what WM users might do without these integrations, widgets. I think buying SF is one of the good decisions I've made this year - it's worth the money for android phone! (Still jealous of your SGS2 though!)
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haha great home screen launcher! Glad to see you have settled in to android very quickly now! you can enjoy thebenifits we never had with the tg01
i second that, zte blade was actrually the thing that led me to android haha... after i bought it, a week later i got my galaxy tab
i was gonna buy that sgs2 the day it was announced in Feb at MWC 11 - glad i did, best thing i ever owned
you should get one mate! Android is the best!
Glad you moved on from Tg01 after orange's bad service!
Rom: unity 1.29
Kernal:unity V4
Radio: stock gingerbread
Set CPU: wake 1.1GHzmax - 245MHz min.. sleep 368max - 245min
So I recently came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what Rom I use (sense or asop) that I always have horrible battery life.. I maybe get 4-6 hours of battery life with moderate to heavy use.. I was just wonder what is the best way to set up my phone to get the most out of my battery.. I've used the battery calibration app for all 3 of my batteries and nothing still get the same out of it.. yes I have 3 batteries but if they all die extremely fast whats the point? I've also used juice defender but that only helps if I don't use the phone..I've seen posts of people supposedly using the **** out of there phone and going a full 24 hours.. I just want to know what your settings are if it helps me at all.. oh I also know that T-Mobile recently had or still has 4g network problems but my battery drain has been going on forever ever since I got the phone when it came out.. thanks in advance for the help guys and girls
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Rom: unity 1.29
Kernal:unity V4
Radio: stock gingerbread
Set CPU: wake 1.1GHzmax - 245MHz min.. sleep 368max - 245min
So I recently came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what Rom I use (sense or asop) that I always have horrible battery life.. I maybe get 4-6 hours of battery life with moderate to heavy use.. I was just wonder what is the best way to set up my phone to get the most out of my battery.. I've used the battery calibration app for all 3 of my batteries and nothing still get the same out of it.. yes I have 3 batteries but if they all die extremely fast whats the point? I've also used juice defender but that only helps if I don't use the phone..I've seen posts of people supposedly using the **** out of there phone and going a full 24 hours.. I just want to know what your settings are if it helps me at all.. oh I also know that T-Mobile recently had or still has 4g network problems but my battery drain has been going on forever ever since I got the phone when it came out.. thanks in advance for the help guys and girls
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What i have been doing to counter the 4g problem is use 2g for non phone use times and 4g when i actually need to download or use mobile data. Ive also heard that auto brightness helps drain the battery faster than without. autosync settings can be important too. dont have it sync everything if you dont need it to. I get a long time on my battery and usually set it on the charger at night with 30-40% left.
edit: you didnt list the governer you are using. I use smartass or conservative for screen on or off and they help keep the clock speeds down if you arent doing something heavily dependant on phone speed like a game. Also when you say your radio is stock gingerbread, do you mean the newest leak one or stock that came with the phone? I have found the panache to give me the best reception which in turn saves the phone from draining itself from trying to find a signal.
Whoops New I forgot something..yeah my governors are smartass for when screen on and conservative when sleep.. when I say stock gingerbread radio I meant the link before the panache radio
I got my best battery life using faux123's AOSP roms, and his latest kernel has an undervolted version which makes it waste less battery without taking any toll on the performance. I don't particularly like the sense roms too much because I feel like they drain my battery power faster than aosp ones, and I don't even use all the features to their fullest extent.
eqjunkie829 said:
Ive also heard that auto brightness helps drain the battery faster than without.
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I've heard the same thing as well actually. Personally I keep my brightness at minimum all the time(10%), but you could try 25% if that's too dim for you. 40%-60% is usually bright enough to see clearly on even the brightest days too, and I'm one of the unlucky people with a bad screen.
I'd also recommend downloading Muzikant's "AutomateIt" app and setting up some rules. I recommend setting rules that will brighten your display for apps that really need the light(Netflix, Camera, Gallery), and then dimming it back down once you close the applications. You can have it turn off your data and syncing and other such things under specific conditions and times as well, which can help your battery life immensely, and without you actively having to do anything.
And I guess you could try flashing a new radio as well. You might have to test out each one for a few days to notice the differences between them but eventually you'll find which one works best for your area and phone.
If the batteries you're using isn't the stock one, most likely those batteries will die out really quick. They don't hold their charge that well.
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Hello, i'm using typhoon latest rom with latest kernel from dorimanx (7.1A), but im gonna go on vacations and i really need my phone to last as long as possible, is there any way to tweak rom or kernel for better batery life? thanks
carlosribeiro1999 said:
Hello, i'm using typhoon latest rom with latest kernel from dorimanx (7.1A), but im gonna go on vacations and i really need my phone to last as long as possible, is there any way to tweak rom or kernel for better batery life? thanks
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What sort of battery drain do you currently get on standby? Can you tell me the reading in ma from CurrentWidget? If it's 3-5 ma with mobile network/wifi/bluetooth etc on and 2ma in airplane mode then you're fine,but if it's higher it can definitely be improved.
If you don't plan to use mobile internet connection then disable 3G and turn 2G mode only. Turn off as many widgets as you only can, disable Location Service and auto sync. Install apps on phone memory only.
Also Dorimanx kernel is a hell of battery drainer, use another one like stable Tytungs etc.
Use dynamic/powersave CPU governors or use CPU speed profile apps like SetCPU and make several profiles for it.
This is only a few of tips we can give here.
Nigeldg said:
What sort of battery drain do you currently get on standby? Can you tell me the reading in ma from CurrentWidget? If it's 3-5 ma with mobile network/wifi/bluetooth etc on and 2ma in airplane mode then you're fine,but if it's higher it can definitely be improved.
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im getting between 10 to 15 ma with 2g on and sync all the rest is off, and im using smartassv2 governator i dont know if this can be improved .. and i really like dorimanx kernel becouse it feels faster then tytung and it gets less hotter becouse right now is really hot these days and i nearly cant use the phone with tytung kernel becouse it gets crazy hot :O
carlosribeiro1999 said:
im getting between 10 to 15 ma with 2g on and sync all the rest is off, and im using smartassv2 governator i dont know if this can be improved .. and i really like dorimanx kernel becouse it feels faster then tytung and it gets less hotter becouse right now is really hot these days and i nearly cant use the phone with tytung kernel becouse it gets crazy hot :O
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Well the apps I use to reduce my battery drain are JuiceDefender and SetCPU. Set the profiles to be 245-576 Mhz when screen is off (smartassv2) and whatever else you like when screen is on. I never had any overheating problem with Tytung's kernel though. It was the most stable and just as fast as Dorimanx's kernel IMO. Still, using ICS now so I can't really judge about the newest versions of each of them.
retsam88 said:
If you don't plan to use mobile internet connection then disable 3G and turn 2G mode only. Turn off as many widgets as you only can, disable Location Service and auto sync. Install apps on phone memory only.
Also Dorimanx kernel is a hell of battery drainer, use another one like stable Tytungs etc.
Use dynamic/powersave CPU governors or use CPU speed profile apps like SetCPU and make several profiles for it.
This is only a few of tips we can give here.
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Nigeldg said:
Well the apps I use to reduce my battery drain are JuiceDefender and SetCPU. Set the profiles to be 245-576 Mhz when screen is off (smartassv2) and whatever else you like when screen is on. I never had any overheating problem with Tytung's kernel though. It was the most stable and just as fast as Dorimanx's kernel IMO. Still, using ICS now so I can't really judge about the newest versions of each of them.
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I think his kernel is the same in battery drain over any of them. Ive tried them all. If anything, seader_r9 was the best and it was only a small improvement. My battery life is pretty short, but im a HEAVY user. Constant web browsing, constant text messaging contant GPS. And it lasts for the majority of the day. Now i have an .sh script which helps tweak the smartassV2 settings. I get about 110-200ma drain when doing simple web browsing or replying to a text.
One must also keep in mind that the ROM has a major part in battery drain as well. I heard from many users on here that MIUI has the best battery life. All in all i think any kernel you choose will have reletively (i spelled that wrong -.- its still early ) the same battery drain. It really comes down to the amount of use your phone has. But as stated before, turning off data greatly saves the battery as does turning down the screen brightness, fyi, automatic brightness sucks battery life too. Plus android does a horrible job polling the light sensor -.- it shouldnt take an average of 3 seconds to get the changed light value..
Theres not much 'tweaking' you can do to give you like an hour extra of battery life. Our batteries are only 1350mah batteries and thats really small for such a huge screen. My Touch Pro 2 has a 1500 and a much smaller screen. There are a lot of good aftermarket batteries on ebay that you could get which would extend your running time.
thanks guys, im gonna give a shot to tytung kernel, but im also gonna take a look to the aftermarket baterys
Typhoon rom support undervolt so if your phone is gettin' hot I suggest you to tweak the voltages as explained to original thread first page, it makes a big difference compared to stock.
Funnydwarf said:
Typhoon rom support undervolt so if your phone is gettin' hot I suggest you to tweak the voltages as explained to original thread first page, it makes a big difference compared to stock.
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and how do I do that? witch are the best values?
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Good advice here. There's a lot you can do (as already advised) but always some performance tradeoffs. The standard HD2 battery is only 1230 mA... not 1350. Smartassv2 in DM's kernels is excellent for performance and settles down nicely in standby - but it will pull-on your battery when used. There's no substitute for keeping a few extra charged batteries around (when you need them), along with AC & DC chargers + cable, in a small carrying case.
RobE. said:
Good advice here. There's a lot you can do (as already advised) but always some performance tradeoffs. The standard HD2 battery is only 1230 mA... not 1350. Smartassv2 in DM's kernels is excellent for performance and settles down nicely in standby - but it will pull-on your battery when used. There's no substitute for keeping a few extra charged batteries around (when you need them), along with AC & DC chargers + cable, in a small carrying case.
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You don't need to use dorimanx's latest kernels, his stable kernels in fact do a better job at not overheating and have only 2ma drain on standby. I know 5.9, 6.3, 6.4d, and 6.9A (ics hwa) give a great battery life.
hengsheng120 said:
You don't need to use dorimanx's latest kernels, his stable kernels in fact do a better job at not overheating and have only 2ma drain on standby. I know 5.9, 6.3, 6.4d, and 6.9A (ics hwa) give a great battery life.
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i cant find any of those kernels in the mirrors
The nearest versions are fine
http://www.dorimanx.com/
hengsheng120 said:
The nearest versions are fine
http://www.dorimanx.com/
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witch one do you think is the best in batery to use with typhoon rom? becouse im kinda lost there, is has a lot of choises
carlosribeiro1999 said:
witch one do you think is the best in batery to use with typhoon rom? becouse im kinda lost there, is has a lot of choises
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I like 6.5D it works perfectly.
elesbb said:
I like 6.5D it works perfectly.
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because with tytung kernel I get 10 ma in standby only with wifi one sync and using 2g network
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carlosribeiro1999 said:
because with tytung kernel I get 10 ma in standby only with wifi one sync and using 2g network
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Wow, in standby im on average around 7-3mA with the occational spikes when receiving texts or messages over wifi. And when on data its about the same, just not as often in the 3ma range.
elesbb said:
Wow, in standby im on average around 7-3mA with the occational spikes when receiving texts or messages over wifi. And when on data its about the same, just not as often in the 3ma range.
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so I really don't know what's wrong here, now I'm using dorimanx 6.5D and I get 11ma with the same stuff on has before
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carlosribeiro1999 said:
so I really don't know what's wrong here, now I'm using dorimanx 6.5D and I get 11ma with the same stuff on has before
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CHeck to see if you have any wake locks.
carlosribeiro1999 said:
so I really don't know what's wrong here, now I'm using dorimanx 6.5D and I get 11ma with the same stuff on has before
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Which apps are running in the background? People constantly say that task killers make no difference yet whenever I've opened something and haven't killed it I get a higher battery drain than normal.
Also, use JuiceDefender and SetCPU to lower the drain.