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Clockworkmod Rom Manager

Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone

jvward said:
Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
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Follow the process to root again

Any Idea why that happened?
Do I need S-Off?

jvward said:
Any Idea why that happened?
Do I need S-Off?
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i have no idea why that would happen ,, man im sorry , i only left it in cuz i know some people who use is ,

Hey Can I ask what does it offer outside what anons does?

jvward said:
Hey All,
I have a super big problem >.<
I was trying to get clockworkmod recovery working on my phone and somehow it made me lose root access on CM6 and also I lost I lost my RA Recovery.
What do I do!?!?!
please help
PS: I still have S-On my phone
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I have doen this too, Clockworkmod replaces Amon's, just reflash amons and it will come back.

Thanks,
I got it working again, but just wondering how would I used this recovery manager if I wanted to ?
I dont think it was properly flashing its own recovery image.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!

jvward said:
Thanks,
I got it working again, but just wondering how would I used this recovery manager if I wanted to ?
I dont think it was properly flashing its own recovery image.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Don't use CLOCKWORK recovery unless you want a nice looking brick.

t2noob said:
Don't use CLOCKWORK recovery unless you want a nice looking brick.
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Using Clockwork turns my phone into an Iphone 4?
Jking, does it bring anything to the plate that anons does not? and if so does anyone know if there is a way to manually flash the recovery image from them onto the phone, because if I use it, it just make my phone sit at the skate board screen?

jvward said:
Using Clockwork turns my phone into an Iphone 4?
Jking, does it bring anything to the plate that anons does not? and if so does anyone know if there is a way to manually flash the recovery image from them onto the phone, because if I use it, it just make my phone sit at the skate board screen?
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It does have some pretty nice features, but it could cause a brick in the future.
I used it about a month before i had any problems with it.
I wasn't able to flash or restore any nands i had made, it would just spit out error after error. I even tried flashing the ROOT rom and that didn't help either. then when i tried rebooting it just never turned on again and I had to get the phone replaced. On other phones it works great, but on the eris its no good.
I would suggest stay with RA unless you're willing to risk your phone and money.

Cool,
I was just interested in the update rom feature for the Eris, but oh well if its that dangerous >.<
Thanks!

Quick question T2noob, I just noticed your post on the blog for clockwork recovery where you ever able to get past this error.
"The recovery for for the eris 1.8.1.1 isn't working, I tried to reboot into recovery but it never boots, it just stays at the android skateboard screen. If you need anything, testing, info on the phone, ect you can email me at XXXXXXXX"

Yea You need to flash RA then Clockwork thats how he had me fix it, but like i said don't use Clockwork recovery just take a look at this thread im not the only one
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687272

I find it really odd that so many people have trouble with clockwork. Been using it to flash ROMs for months with no issues. Hopefully don't have any in the future!

i've used clockwork mod for 3 weeks now without any problems. also have rom manager installed, same author. i absolutely love both apps. i came from a v3 leak and couldn't get amon recovery to load on my phone, this worked like a charm first time. also i read in the forums that amons recovery is no longer supported by the author unlike clockwork mod which the author updates frequently.

t2noob said:
Yea You need to flash RA then Clockwork thats how he had me fix it, but like i said don't use Clockwork recovery just take a look at this thread im not the only one
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687272
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that thread you linked too only has you and the op posting in it. in fact i read that thread before i installed it and thought to myself that 2 people aren't enough to convince me it causes any more problems than amon's. personally i only used clockwork because that is what i could get loaded on my phone and have loved it since. also its been updated like 4 times since May when that link was started. so if it bricks my phone so what it just a phone and everythings backed up in triplicate anyways. be a nice excuse to get me a new toy.
I also believe the op's problem is that he used rom manager to flash amons recovery. now its my understanding that doing that removes clockwork mod recovery and replaces it with amon's. so he actually had a problem with amon's recovery and not clockwork mod recovery. i think the problems occur when people use rom manager to falsh a different recovery instead of clockwork mod which it is made to work with. just my ramblings here.

kzoodroid said:
that thread you linked too only has you and the op posting in it. in fact i read that thread before i installed it and thought to myself that 2 people aren't enough to convince me it causes any more problems than amon's. personally i only used clockwork because that is what i could get loaded on my phone and have loved it since. also its been updated like 4 times since May when that link was started. so if it bricks my phone so what it just a phone and everythings backed up in triplicate anyways. be a nice excuse to get me a new toy.
I also believe the op's problem is that he used rom manager to flash amons recovery. now its my understanding that doing that removes clockwork mod recovery and replaces it with amon's. so he actually had a problem with amon's recovery and not clockwork mod recovery. i think the problems occur when people use rom manager to falsh a different recovery instead of clockwork mod which it is made to work with. just my ramblings here.
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take it as a grain of salt, if you come into the irc there are devs there that had this happen to them and can tell you what exactly happens. And I used ClockWork for about a month before i got the brick so...do as you like with this information.

well there are a lot of people running clockwork mod without problems. i went to the cyanogen forums looking for who was running cm6, like the op, and there are just as many people using clockwork as amon's. and there were a few reports of nandroid recovery failures using amon's in cm6 as the reason why they switched to clockwork.

kzoodroid said:
well there are a lot of people running clockwork mod without problems. i went to the cyanogen forums looking for who was running cm6, like the op, and there are just as many people using clockwork as amon's. and there were a few reports of nandroid recovery failures using amon's in cm6 as the reason why they switched to clockwork.
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I heard that clock work is a great recovery on other devices, but on the eris it's not good the irc devs also worked with the guy who makes the recovery email him if you like he will tell you he had gotten complaints about on the eris. And there isn't an official cm6 for the eris so the people you talked to were running it for other devices. Like I said a grain of salt.
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Well I would like to test it out but the recovery image it drops over anons does not seem to work anyone have any moderately detailed instructions on to how to get it to work?
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[POLL]Amon Ra or Clockwork

Was wondering which recovery everyone likes and why. Been using Ra since my G1 and I love it. (searched around for one of these and didnt see it. Mods delete if there was already one of these polls)

Amon all the way
Sent from my EVO using the Earths core to power my death ray

So...since this brought up...I see that some ROMs don't work with some recoveries? Is that correct? I swear it seems some ROMs only work with clockwork...but then I read all over that clockwork is buggy...or doesn't seem to work for everyone...or something.
I was thinking Amon Ra was the way to go.
I'll follow the answers to this one as well.

sablesurfer said:
So...since this brought up...I see that some ROMs don't work with some recoveries? Is that correct? I swear it seems some ROMs only work with clockwork...but then I read all over that clockwork is buggy...or doesn't seem to work for everyone...or something.
I was thinking Amon Ra was the way to go.
I'll follow the answers to this one as well.
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Thats true. As far as I know, there have been issues with Clockwork not wiping correctly(I know someone like that)and causing bootloops after flashing. I dont know of any roms that dont work with Ra, but I believe Rom Manager will only work with Clockwork.

Clockwork since it is compatible with ROM Manager.

Clockwork since it has a back option in the menus. It's also updated frequently.

I've been running clock on the evo. I tried putting amon in but I guess I'm too stupid cause when I tried following the directions, I borked the phone good and it took me awhile to get everything back into working order. I could flash it now with rom manager but I'm kinda afraid after the last fiasco.
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I've found that using both have worked for me the best. If I'm running Fresh Rom I will use Amon Ra's but I'll use clockwork for cm6. Its so easy to jump back and forth between recoveries using rom manager its never really an issue. Either way both developers are awesome and their recoveries both have good things to offer

anyway to switch back to Amon? not feelin the Clockwork im too use to it...

seriousblack25 said:
anyway to switch back to Amon? not feelin the Clockwork im too use to it...
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Use ROM Manager to "flash alternate recovery."

another poll
dglowe343 said:
Was wondering which recovery everyone likes and why.
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i was wondering the same thing exactly!! So a few days ago i asked the question on the Cyanogen forums... I got a lot of good responses and summarized the comments on the first post... check it out here: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/2562-best-recovery-for-evo-to-use-with-cm6/

I haven't had one single problem with clockwork recovery.

I like the recovery originally included with toastcfl's root found here. it's very similar to Armon's (don't know if things have to be signed or not), but you use the power button to go back instead of the double-press volume (which I find annoying to do).
I just don't like clockwork as much as the other two, that's just the way it is.

Using Amon Ra because I think it's the only recovery fully compatible with DamageControl.
Not sure of the actual "differences" between it and Clockwork - can anyone clarify?

oblivion0 said:
Using Amon Ra because I think it's the only recovery fully compatible with DamageControl.
Not sure of the actual "differences" between it and Clockwork - can anyone clarify?
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I'm using clockwork with Damage Control I've had zero problems so far.

I hate Amon recovery... always have to move my ROM downloads to the root of the SD card... forget it 90% of the time and have to reboot to fix it... and that doesn't work so well if I borked my ROM.
I use Clockwork and have zero issues unless I'm trying to autoflash theme updates and such so I have to do those manually. Otherwise no complaints. And no signing issues with Clockwork either.

Amon_RA's recovery FTW!

Well, since rooting 24 hours ago, I've been using Clockwork via recovery boot (not through ROM Manager) and it's worked flawlessly so far. Backed up my rooted stock setup, flashed Fresh, DC, CM6, and then back to Fresh, wiped between every flash, and I've had no problems. Even flashed some Fresh Tweaks in the recovery boot. I actually flashed Amon Ra to see how I liked it . . . and I didn't. Mostly just navigating was a pain with the volume up+down thing, everything else seems like a wash. My only question is whether the Dalvik cache is really being wiped by Clockwork, since it takes half a second to complete when I select the option. I'm going to test it in a few minutes here.
Going to give Baked Snack a run for a while, we'll see how that holds up.

I have wondered that for awhile, silver. It may sound stupid but at least a confirmation in the log messages below would be nice.
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herbthehammer said:
I have wondered that for awhile, silver. It may sound stupid but at least a confirmation in the log messages below would be nice.
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Okay, I decided to test. Fired up ADB and booted into recovery from Android. Mounted /data and looked inside /data/dalvik-cache. There was a long list of .dex files. Then I unmounted /data and used the Clockwork menu to wipe the Dalvik-cache (this option is located under the "advanced" menu, NOT just the "wipe cache" option). Re-mounted /data and looked inside . . . and the dalvik-cache directory was gone. It took *slightly* longer than normal when I actually hit the button to wipe it (more like .7 seconds instead of .5), but it does appear that my Clockwork v2.5.0.1 is wiping dalvik just fine. And, of course, when I rebooted back into Android (rooted .6 stock at the moment) it took a long time to boot at the 4G screen, as the cache was being rebuilt. Once I was back in, I checked the /data directory again and dalvik-cache was back and full of .dex files again.
So there. No more speculating, just science.
And if you're ever worried about it, you can just use ADB to wipe the dalvik-cache yourself:
Code:
adb shell
mount /data
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache/*
Then you can use the Clockwork menu to wipe everything else and flash your ROM. These three commands actually just delete everything inside the dalvik-cache directory, whereas Clockwork appears to remove the directory entirely. Doesn't really matter either way, the system will replace the directory if it gets deleted.
Mmm . . . terminal code.

Which recovery is better?

Guys which recovery is better- Amon RA or Clockwork? What is the difference b/w the two?

both are good at getting the job done. but clockwork is much better overall since it integrates with ROM manager and automates everything for you. definitely try out clockwork.

i've had issues with clockwork recently, personally I use Amon_Ra, but both are VERY similar almost identical

Blueman101 said:
i've had issues with clockwork recently, personally I use Amon_Ra, but both are VERY similar almost identical
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What type of issues?

Only reason I dont use Clockwork is because it works well with ROM Manager it auto updates my ROM and that is just annoying But really I cant seem to find any major differences between the two

Keshav_CoolDude said:
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It didn't wipe a previous rom correctly.

Amon 's recovery gives me a feeling that it was designed for Nexus One
clockwerk's recovery gives me the opposite feeling, it was designed for all devices.
amon's recovery is easier to use, yet powerful enough for doing everything
clockwerk's recovery provides more options and detailed functionalities, but we usually don't use them all.
amon's UI is more easy and obvious to use than clockwerk's
if you don't rely on rom manager, I personal suggest using Amon's

houzuoguo said:
Amon 's recovery gives me a feeling that it was designed for Nexus One
clockwerk's recovery gives me the opposite feeling, it was designed for all devices.
amon's recovery is easier to use, yet powerful enough for doing everything
clockwerk's recovery provides more options and detailed functionalities, but we usually don't use them all.
amon's UI is more easy and obvious to use than clockwerk's
if you don't rely on rom manager, I personal suggest using Amon's
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Personally I think that the strong point of clockworth is the integration with ROM manager. In the other hand, I think Amon`s RA is more clear and has enough power to complete any task. The two are good, but I prefer Amon`s.
It`s your choice. Try both and decide.

I started using clockwork for some time. I gotta say I love the ROM Manager integration and the ability to go through folders so you don't have to always have what you're trying to flash on the root of your sd card. just recently though while restoring a backup clockwork just froze. I let it sit thinking it was just taking a while but after a good while I just pulled the battery. I went back to restore and it flew by quickly, restoring the rom just fine. this has happened twice already and it never happened with amon's recovery. I agree with houzuoguo when he said it feels like amon's was built for the nexus and clockwork was built for multiple devices.

I like clockwork for 1 reason. I love the comfirmation window he uses. A buch of no's then a yes are u sure.
Example:
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
Yes - This action can not be reversed
No
No
No
It amuses me.

What rom is the best?
What flavor ice cream is the best?
Try them both for a bit and make up your own damn mind.

codesplice said:
What rom is the best?
CM6 Nightly
What flavor ice cream is the best?
Mint Chocolate Chip by far.
Try them both for a bit and make up your own damn mind.
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I win! lol. But he does has a point.

Amon Ra is more stable/reliable; clockwork has the integration with ROM manager.
Personally, it annoys me that I can't even do the simple things like "check for updates" and "download ROM" without having clockwork flashed first. I don't get why, those are not functions needing the recovery; let me at least check updates and download them. I can do the flashing manually with my recovery of choice. I guess its an effort to get market share and reliance on the app, leading to more sales for the more feature rich paid app. So I avoid clockwork on principal. Not that I don't want to support dev's, I do, but this seems underhanded to me. Gimping every feature, whether they depend on recovery functionality or not.

Ok thnx everybody..
I think I should stick with Amon only..

is there nandroid backup on epic4g??

I have owned the hero and evo and now the epic but don't see nandroid backup on the epic 4g????
Backup pro not working to restore home layout and settings...

jocampo86 said:
I have owned the hero and evo and now the epic but don't see nandroid backup on the epic 4g????
Backup pro not working to restore home layout and settings...
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In clockwork recovery there is a backup function. Its basically the same thing as a nandroid but it does have a few more features like only restoring your data.

yes,its in clockwork recovery>backup/restore options

When I try to choose backup rom i t boots to recovery but get error ,instalation aborted I cannot flash anything via recovery have been using odin..have stock kernel ..

jocampo86 said:
When I try to choose backup rom i t boots to recovery but get error ,instalation aborted I cannot flash anything via recovery have been using odin..have stock kernel ..
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This sound like you are using rom manager to me from the android os. Is this right? If so it also (could be or) sounds like you are entering the default recovery rather than clockwork. Did you install clockwork via one-click or alternative method first?
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One click but I have installed the the one from rom maager..

When the phone reboots from ROM Manager, you need to hold the camera+vol down+power buttons before it starts rebooting.

I tried it already,I just noticed it says android system recovery (2e)

Try turning your phone off than turning on with the three button method. Hold power+volume down+camera. That should get you into clockwork. Lettering should be green and not blue like stock recovery. If it appears blue than you dont have clockwork installed. Try the one click method. It has clockwork redirector which means any apps you may use that has recovery options it'll take you straight to clockwork. Hope this helps.

I have tried that and yes the letters are blue and says android system recovery 2e..is there a manual .img I can flash via adb or terminal emulator I have tried one click that's how I rooted but no luck,I tried rom manager install recovery but no luck.,am starting to miss amon-rec.img but loving the epic so far ..help guys please....the only I can say I miss about the evo is 2.2 but not much
hugo87 said:
Try turning your phone off than turning on with the three button method. Hold power+volume down+camera. That should get you into clockwork. Lettering should be green and not blue like stock recovery. If it appears blue than you dont have clockwork installed. Try the one click method. It has clockwork redirector which means any apps you may use that has recovery options it'll take you straight to clockwork. Hope this helps.
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Try the all in one. Its a sticky in the dev section. It roots and installs clockwork with redirector. Or if you can find the one click clockwork recovery alone. Maybe that'll help. Don't ue rom manager so I'm sorry can't help on that app.
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jocampo86 said:
I have tried that and yes the letters are blue and says android system recovery 2e..is there a manual .img I can flash via adb or terminal emulator I have tried one click that's how I rooted but no luck,I tried rom manager install recovery but no luck.,am starting to miss amon-rec.img but loving the epic so far ..help guys please....the only I can say I miss about the evo is 2.2 but not much
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It sounds like you don't have CW recovery installed properly. You can't do it from rom manager if you are on stock kernel. Use the newest one click, I think its like version 2.5.5 or something like that. Then boot while holding the 3 buttons. It should bring you to a screen that looks very much like the amon ra recovery (minus the carebear).

Hold down all three buttons until it boots to CWM. If the blue letters still come up then you don't have CWM. The script for the CWM redirector doesn't work properly on my Epic.

jocampo86 said:
One click but I have installed the the one from rom maager..
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Unsure what that means. Does rom manager even install cw? Try the one click. You appear to be doing the right combo to get u to the recovery screen but it seems the default is where you are going to. One click root and cwm with redirector that puppy and let us know how it goes.
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Ok I flashed the recovery by itself and I have made a backup succesfully well that's wa I thought ,,when it ry to restore it gives me error sd not mounted ..wa is this guys need help I heard that its possible just to back up data..?I use to use backup pro but it donjt work on epic to restore my layout and data..neeeeed heeeeeeeeelppp
Djinn23 said:
Unsure what that means. Does rom manager even install cw? Try the one click. You appear to be doing the right combo to get u to the recovery screen but it seems the default is where you are going to. One click root and cwm with redirector that puppy and let us know how it goes.
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Clockwork -Or- Coincidence?

So I've been using amon ra since I got my evo then about 2 weeks ago when CM7 nightlies came out I flashed clockwork 3.0.0.5 so I could get notifications and update though ROM Manger. Today I backed up my sdcard and went to format my card through clockwork and it failed and said it couldn't do it. I figured alright lemme just boot into android and do it, so I hit reboot and it vibrates 5 times and sits there with a black screen and a flashing green light. I've searched around and found people with rooted/modded and unrooted/stock phones that are having the same issue with no resolution. Strange thing is that my evo is now S-ON even though I was flashed with unrevoked forever with S-OFF. I also can't boot in to recovery. Here are my problems and what I have tried so far..
1. Used fastboot to flash everything I can think of, but always get some kind of error.
2. After many many attempts I was able to flash the latest official PC36IMG.zip. Sometimes it boots and sometimes it won't. When it does boot it shuts off and gives the 5 vibrates. It also will not see the microSD card when booted up.
3. Tried different microSD card and battery.
4. Tried to use unrevoked, but adb is not working.
5. When booted up it also lists 3 "Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM" entries in device manager with exclimations.
4. Any suggestions anyone may have?
I've only had my phone for about two months and I bought it new off ebay. If I can't get it working I'm at a loss. Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
EDIT: I was able to get android to see the sd card by doing the fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695243, but it still reboots.

Clockwork is not bad, but it isn't the best. I used amon ra for a year on my hero and I never had one issue. I have an epic now (just bought an evo on ebay ), and clockwork is always a hassel for me. If I were you, download the new amon ra recovery image. You can go into rom manager and select "flash alternate recovery". It will automatically switch you over. Or remove root and re root the phone.
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Dj21o said:
Clockwork is not bad, but it isn't the best. I used amon ra for a year on my hero and I never had one issue. I have an epic now (just bought an evo on ebay ), and clockwork is always a hassel for me. If I were you, download the new amon ra recovery image. You can go into rom manager and select "flash alternate recovery". It will automatically switch you over. Or remove root and re root the phone.
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I'm running the stock rom with S-ON and no root. Android will not even stay up long enough to use temporary root from z4root and flash another recovery.

Seems to be happening a lot lately with the new CM7 build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10744115&postcount=11

Are they trying to incorporate some sort of epst app in it now? Thats strange a rom would mess with the bootloader but for it to do it on an evo and an incredible?
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If its unrooted with s-on then have you considered going to a sprint store and having it replaced? With TEP its free, without it, its $35-

apfrost said:
I'm running the stock rom with S-ON and no root. Android will not even stay up long enough to use temporary root from z4root and flash another recovery.
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No not z4 lol. You need a recovery image to back up the phone, flash new roms, etc.
Unless I have no idea what you're talking about. I miss amon ra, and that will be the first thing I put on my evo lol.
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After 16 hours of trying to recover the phone I finally caved and went to the sprint store. I paid the $35 got real lucky since sprint had no refurbished evos at the warehouse so they gave me a new one there an then. Number one rule..
DON'T USE CLOCKWORK!
Clockwork 3.0.0.5 was the common factor in all cases I found.
EDIT: Also if your using a custom rom with customer recovery like amon ra I would leave S-ON. This way a flashable zip can't modify and corrupt your NAND partitions.