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WM Dev ideas from new iPhone Apps

I just came across this and thought it was pretty interesting app for the iphone. Wanted to share it with the community just in case any of the developers in here are intending on working (or currently working on) a program launcher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFITXsB56Z4
Two items that caught my attention was:
1) Home screen plug-in like cLauncher / iLauncher but with finger friendly scrolling feature. Scrollable up or down like PocketCM or flickable pages like in PointUI clock/calendar/tasks.
2) Click on the edge and it has a Mac dock style launcher. Would be nice to have a button in the tray that when tapped could popup a launcher like this.
Or heck...why not have a Finger Friendly Start Menu?? What is the #1 application that all of us use on daily basis? Of course...our Start Menu.
As a website developer I like having people show me new website ideas. It helps inspire me. So just wanted to do the same when I come across something that might interest you Devs in here

Nice !. I wish we had something similar for wm6

Damn.. iPhone's UI is already awesome and they're making it even more awesome! When are we going to see such quality in WM's UIs? *sigh* The moment thay make an iPhone with 3.5G. I'm getting one!

DaVince said:
Damn.. iPhone's UI is already awesome and they're making it even more awesome! When are we going to see such quality in WM's UIs? *sigh* The moment thay make an iPhone with 3.5G. I'm getting one!
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u'll have to wait till 2009 or 2010 for it as its the release year of WM 7 a.k.a Touch

Yup kinda sad that all these iphone hackers/developers have a big advantage. They don't have to fix the OS like our Devs do. Our WM devs are handicapped in that way.
We do have a lot of great non-finger friendly apps out there, but just nice to have these iphone-esque apps for the quick tasks that shouldn't entail us taking out our stylist or use the slide out keyboard.

Best iPhone Theme?

hi, i searched up 'iphone' in this forums and found a lot of iphone themes. i think the Torx-Development one and iFonz from ssj5trunks are the best. can you tell me which one looks and acts more like the iphone?
do you have to launch a program to make the theme work or does it start automatically hen i start the phone?
can you change the backgrounds of the themes?
thanks

Vapourstreak said:
hi, i searched up 'iphone' in this forums and found a lot of iphone themes. i think the Torx-Development one and iFonz. can you tell me which one looks and acts more like the iphone?
do you have to launch a program to make the theme work or does it start automatically hen i start the phone?
can you change the backgrounds of the themes?
thanks
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I like iTask for the complete iPhone effect. Jus my opinion

Alkhal said:
I like iTask for the complete iPhone effect. Jus my opinion
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I would have to agree with you. The animation when the icons are pressed is near identical to the iPhone's.

My opinion? Don't try to emulate the iphone on your PPC.
I own both an Iphone and an HTC Trinity, and i can tell you no program can come close to the incredible interface of the iphone. First and FOremost, the screen size, not to mention the smoothness of the animations.
So - either you get an iphone (Like I did), or you live with the "uglier" PPC GUI, but get advantage of much more functionality.
Just my 2 cents

Honestly, I used to be obsessed with making my phone look like the iPhone because I was planning to get one, but 3 days before it came out I got an 8525 instead because the iPhone was missing to many features that was important to me. So then I was skinning it to look that way, then it just got boring. I would reeally really reccomend SPB Mobile Shell 2. I really think its the best thing around, because it sex's up the hell out of Windows Mobile and makes it totally finger friendly and smooth. Plus with all the advances people are making customizing it, its becoming even better.
But if you absolutely had to, use iFonz.

can you change the keyboard and EVERYthing in itask to look like the iphone? or can i use resco keybaord and othe third arty plugins?
my family has an iphone, but im using windows mobile because of the more features

it started out as a little project for myself, and myself only.
i feel like the iphone ui is very intuitive and simple with a visual style thats pleasing.. theres nothing wrong with trying to mimic an easy to use interface.. and its to hold me over until att gets its network straight, and a 3g iphone is released.
thank you.

TorxT3D said:
it started out as a little project for myself, and myself only.
i feel like the iphone ui is very intuitive and simple with a visual style thats pleasing.. theres nothing wrong with trying to mimic an easy to use interface.. and its to hold me over until att gets its network straight, and a 3g iphone is released.
thank you.
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I am also waiting on that 3g iPhone. Was that, no video recording, and PTT that kept me from purchasing. I expect those features on the next iPhone release(except PTT) and I will be buying it then.

Super EmericAn said:
I am also waiting on that 3g iPhone. Was that, no video recording, and PTT that kept me from purchasing. I expect those features on the next iPhone release(except PTT) and I will be buying it then.
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****...the Sony Ericsson Xperia is going to blow the iphone away
...and AT&T is going to carry it. Cha Ching

Nexus S Development 4G/GSM

Hello everyone. Allow me to introduce myself first off. I'm a long time xda member, an acs member (Android Creative Syndicate), a themer, and a developer. I originally started on the Samsung Moment, learned themes, and shortly after moved up to the Samsung Epic. I created quite a few themes for the Epic, and then began working with ACS devs testing and learning what they were doing for the ACS roms.
I've got some plans for my Nexus and hopefully everyone can benefit from it. My first missing piece upon buying the nexus was the widgets in the status bar ie bt, gps, wifi, etc. soon as I got my phone that was a high priority. I ported a theme immediately from the Epic so I could have my eye candy back while working on bigger and better projects. The theme is in Nexus Themes and Apps called H.R. Giger and can be found here: Thread. My second project, the Samsung Touchwiz Quick Panel port, which is also the same thing as the power control widgets on the Cyanogen Mod roms, is now mostly complete and can be found here: Thread. Also there is a subsequent thread that I turned into a guide on how I did the mod as well as actively answer questions to anyone looking to do the same for their roms located here: Thread. I say the mod is *mostly done because I would like to replace the auto rotation widget with the Wimax (4g) for us Sprint Users. The problem is Sprint has made the Wimax modular and placed it into an apk where it links itself into the settings menu, as well as the framework. The problem with this is I can't access the wimaxmanager inside the apk from the SystemUi.apk because of what seems to be a security issue. Most likely this was done intentionally by Sprint to protect their proprietary software, but I'm not 100% sure. I like to believe that we can get around it and get this working but it's def on the back burner now.
My current port is the TSM Lockscreen Parts. This mod allows you to go into settings, under the option for About Phone, there will be a new choice called Lockscreen Parts. From there you can choose between now 8 different Lockscreens. You can also turn the music controls on the different lock screens. I have the Mod 100% working with 3 of the lockscreens ported. I will have one more this afternoon and 4 more however long it takes.
I have released the Quick Panel mod to the public already since it's such a useful mod, but all of these things will be going into my rom which will include the quick panel, lockscreen chooser, and reboot options. The rom will be based on stock NS4G 2.3.4 GRJ22 AOSP build. There is absolutely, in my eyes, nothing wrong with the stock rom running on our Nexus. I feel adding as little code as possible to it to enable these features will send it over the top.
The reason for this thread is two fold. I would like to announce myself to the Nexus community for those coming from something other than the Epic and might not be familiar with my work, and to let any other developers out there what's on my plate if they care to take part in it or were planning on doing the same things. I hate to see someone start on the lockscreen today as much work as it is, and I'm more than half way through. Also I wanted to reach out to the GSM devs, as all this work should transfer over to your phones very easily.
Future projects are already on the backburner including a new theme complete as Giger that takes over every aspec of the phone but this time instead of replace the GB theme, I plan to accent it. Porting over a slew of nice themes is in the works as well. Also I plan on working on getting most of the Transparent and Blacked out apps the Epic has available over to us as well. Anyone else, I know Mikeinid was planning on a transparent gtalk as well so feel free to post here upcoming plans and we can build mods together as one instead of each other doing the same thing.
I hope there are more people out there that will join me in working on the Nexus because the more options the better!. I get asked plenty of times why am I working on porting smali code for the Nexus when we have full source. I'm a reverse engineer by heart. I work backwards a hell of a lot better than forwards. After this rom is complete and I'm set up building NS4G code from source, (I'm mostly done getting set up for that as well) I plan on playing with java code and seeing what apps/mods I can build right into source so in the future I hope my releases will be in source code and anyone can add the code and build it right into their roms.
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Hope some devs will jump in. Great job dreamsforgotten. Big fan here
Uncle Jimmy says hello

Thanks for the support!
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Thanks for reminding me about the inverted gtalk I know how to do it now thanks to jatxwne, a themer from the OG droid.

Absolutely awesome post. I just got the nexus s 4G (coming from an EVO) and have been just getting a feel for these forums. I'm really happy to see a Sprint dev for the nexus s doing really exciting things. Thanks and I'll be really watching your stuff!!

Tuffgong4 said:
Absolutely awesome post. I just got the nexus s 4G (coming from an EVO) and have been just getting a feel for these forums. I'm really happy to see a Sprint dev for the nexus s doing really exciting things. Thanks and I'll be really watching your stuff!!
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I've put in a majority of the last 48 hours on on the epic lockscreen and still don't boot. This one requires modding the framework.jar. Each time I logcat the boot I'm finding more methods not present in the aosp so I'm definitely incorporating some new features. Music controls already work but the epic lock is going to display the tw controls I'm guessing. Regardless the end if near hopefully tomorrow then I have the ***** the puzzle lock then its more framework additions for the muiu lock. A couple weeks away I'm betting
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dreams you are amazing. you already have my support (for what its worth..) and here is to hoping that you port puzzle lock to cm7 afterwards >.> or at the very least get nemith to include it

Cool, glad to see this stuff being ported. I am coming from the EVO and was used to so many devs working on themes, Roms and what not and the NS4G feels so bare. It's always nice to get new minds working on our device. You seem to know what you are doing and I can't wait to see your finished products. Thanks for the introduction.

I'm calling it quits for the night. Touchwiz files in this one require heavy modding of the smali. I have to add in tons of features not in. aosp and make it work together. I know most of what needed but this will take some time. Should be easier for the rest of the locks when I get our policy up to par with the sgs one.
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Say no to themed roms.

I am seriously thinking of starting a campaign here on xda against themed roms.
I won't start blaming anyone or calling out names, but themeing a rom is a bad thing.
Here is why:
1. Generally, miui and sense are well built and nicely designed.
2. Customizing a rom is personalizing it to your taste and your needs (modified apk's with graphics or color change )
3. Generally, the customizations are a cheesy combination of fonts and colors that really don't go that well together and imho sometimes even present usability issues (futuristic font that looks good bad at the size it is used in the UI) .
Currently, there are 3 scenarios:
1. Themed rom
2. Themed rom with an update package to revert to stock ( one that doesn't fully work )
3. Themed rom with an update package to revert to stock
What I would suggest, to keep the pleasure of customization is to include your customization as an update package rather than having the stock look be an update package.
If I will observe more people that think like me, I have a signature banner campaign in mind, that would link to this discussion.

ohh, you are so right
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Yap.. you're 100 percent right..
It annoys me to always replace the skinned files with stock files.. so save me some time!

amen...........

Good call.
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well, i agree with you. 99% of all themes are ruining the roms look. Like you allready said, sense and miui roms look very nice as stock, but they often get ruined by weird themes. BUT i dont think, you could force the devs not to theme their roms.

finally!
+1
totally agree

there are plenty of non themed roms.. if someone wants to make a themed rom and you dont like it, dont use it..
i personally use the bluetopia desire HD themed rom and i love it.

aarons6 said:
there are plenty of non themed roms.. if someone wants to make a themed rom and you dont like it, dont use it..
i personally use the bluetopia desire HD themed rom and i love it.
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+1
At the end of the day...YOU ARE GETTING THESE ROMS FOR FREE!!!!
Can you imagine if they charged you for a one-on-one service, where you discussed what you want etc and how you want it to look...as in called to his buiness or office and paid the going rate per hour!!!!!!!
hundreds of pounds or dollars etc!!!!
I reckon you should be EXTREMELY greatful that u ain't stuck with windows mobile, coz if you were, i can guarantee, you'd be saying, or begging......
......"oh, please devs, please come back, i don't care if it's pink blue or Adolf Hitler Icons everywhere, pleasseeee, i need my android on my HD2"
Simple - if you don't like a theme, GO USE SOMEBODY ELSES ROM.
OR
Even better, LEARN how to make your own ROMS...should only take you a few years of hard graft - maybe then you could appreciate the hard bloody work Devs put in here.
GEEZ - what a cheek whinging about themes etc...LOL
Matt

@aarons6 & @matthew33
That's exactly why customisations should be optional.
It's enough to read the threads of customised rom to find out that there are plenty of people
that are put in the position of choosing between the rom they like with enforced customizations and other stock roms that aren't that well made.
Having the visual tweaks as an optional pack, will attract more users and generate mor revenue in the end. It's that simple.

nemuro said:
@aarons6 & @matthew33
That's exactly why customisations should be optional.
It's enough to read the threads of customised rom to find out that there are plenty of people
that are put in the position of choosing between the rom they like with enforced customizations and other stock roms that aren't that well made.
Having the visual tweaks as an optional pack, will attract more users and generate mor revenue in the end. It's that simple.
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What revenue you were talking about?
Just keep in mind that those roms with heavy theme and customization are personal roms, well, they most are personal rom, they are modified to their taste and just want to share with us, if you dont like it, just ignore and move on....
On the other hand if you thinking of starting a campaign against big @ss signature, sign me in, my fingers work twice as hard to see the next post because of that...

development on 5r dead??

just wondering if the 5r is a dead end on development or if everyone is running on the 5 forum? I just don't see much activity

I'm not completely sure on how dead this forum is, I'd personally really like to see an aosp 7 rom made for the 5R. I'm hoping there will be more activity in the future

561852 said:
I'm not completely sure on how dead this forum is, I'd personally really like to see an aosp 7 rom made for the 5R. I'm hoping there will be more activity in the future
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I just use apex launcher for icons and home screen themes its pretty neat and no commercials I know not a rom but check it out

are there too many differences to run the 5 roms on the 5r?
I also use apex I paid for the pro version since I have used it for so many years on other phones. i have the bootloader unlocked and all of that "jazz" and run a few things on the side. i would really love to get the functions like the menu screen to swipe from the top not the bottom.
i wish i had the know how or time to make things for phones, but my mind is stuck in an engine bay and that is what i do best lol

stonerphoner said:
just wondering if the 5r is a dead end on development or if everyone is running on the 5 forum? I just don't see much activity
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the answer is no , check the blu vivo 5 xda forum, i already ported many 7.1.2 roms for vivo 5 and 5r and their clones