Would we be seeing it on our phones? Sure would love some GB.
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it looks like a T-Mobile Vibrant! It has the same screen, the same processor, but there are some differences. I don't know if it justifies a $500 plus purchase.
Here is the spec list:
Connectivity:
Quad-band GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Tri-band HSPA: 900, 2100, 1700
HSPA type: HSDPA (7.2Mbps) HSUPA (5.76Mbps)
Wi-Fi 802.11 n/b/g
Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
Near Field Communication (NFC)
Assisted GPS (A-GPS)
microUSB 2.0
Display:
4.0" WVGA (480×800)
Contour Display with curved glass screen
Super AMOLED
235 ppi
Capacitive touch sensor
Anti-fingerprint display coating
Size and weight:
63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
Hardware:
Haptic feedback vibration
Three-axis gyroscope
Accelerometer
Digital compass
Proximity sensor
Light sensor
Processor and memory:
1GHz Cortex A8 (Hummingbird) processor
16GB iNAND flash memory
Cameras and multimedia
Back-facing: 5 megapixels (2560×1920)
720 x 480 video resolution
H.264, H.263 MPEG4 video recording
Auto focus
Flash
Front-facing: VGA (640×480)
3.5mm, 4-conductor headset jack
(stereo audio plus microphone)
Earpiece and microphone
Software noise-cancellation
Battery:
Talk time up to 6.7 hours on 3G
(14 hours on 2G)
Standby time up to 17.8 days on 3G
(29.7 days on 2G)
1500 mAH Lithum Ion
Software:
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
Android Market
Calendar
Gmail
Google Earth
Google Maps with Navigation
Google Search
Google Talk
Google Voice
Voice Actions
YouTube
With the release of the Nexus S, it will only make our Vibrants better. I'm sure it shouldn't take too much time to port from Nexus S to vibrant.
Apparently the Nexus S does not have an external microSD slot. Internal memory only.
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So similar to the Vibrant that it's actually making me consider keeping it
Most important factor is that the software will be run enforced by Google, rather than the piss-poor software department of Samsung. IMHO, Nexus S is built by the best hardware developer (Samsung) and patched its weakness in software, by being developed by Google.
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anthonys2r said:
Most important factor is that the software will be run enforced by Google, rather than the piss-poor software department of Samsung. IMHO, Nexus S is built by the best hardware developer (Samsung) and patched its weakness in software, by being developed by Google.
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Vibrant + sXe V3.1 + OCLF
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Most important factor is that the software will be run enforced by Google, rather than the piss-poor software department of Samsung. IMHO, Nexus S is built by the best hardware developer (Samsung) and patched its weakness in software, by being developed by Google.
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I agree. lol and i think if this can be ported fast to our vibrant then it's really an advantage to us since this Nexus S will always be the first to be updated like the Nexus one.
I want one.Im going to sell my vibrant,my wii and my soul to get it.you know if its a necus it will get every firmware 1st.nexus one already has ginger bread.
It's not as different from my Vibrant has I had hoped. Dual cores would have sealed the deal for me, but as it stands I'll wait till we know more and decide then.
The only real things that I wish it had were dedicated camera button and HSPA+. Also a microSD card, but that's not a deal breaker for me.
The benefits, for me, of the Nexus S are OS updates from Google, the LED flash, and the front facing camera.
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Display:
4.0" WVGA (480×800)
Contour Display with curved glass screen
Super AMOLED
235 ppi
Capacitive touch sensor
Anti-fingerprint display coating
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Is it known whether that fancy curvo-screen is made of Gorilla Glass? (Not at all considering a switch from Vibrant; just curious, for comparison purposes.)
I will most definitely probably keep my samsung vibrant. I'm sure that the roms for the nexus s we will be able to port them onto the vibrant because they're virtually the same hardware
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Although I would like an LED flash, the ability to run stock and an FFC for video chat....
The microSD slot is hard for me to give up. I will probably stick with my Vibrant until I can find the Nexus S used at a reasonable price.
If I bought the Nexus S 10 days from now, I would be spending $200-$300 for only a few meager advantages over my current phone.
Guess I'll wait for a Honeycomb device
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I will most definitely probably keep my samsung vibrant. I'm sure that the roms for the nexus s we will be able to port them onto the vibrant because they're virtually the same hardware
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Ditto.
I really see no point in switching. It's pratically the same phone. You can even install an FFC on the Vibrant if you wanted to. Eugene and them are great. I'm more than certain there will be a port over.
Dual-Core, Honeycomb and HSPA+ and I would've gotten it launch day. I swear, why does Samsung always come up short though? Even with the Vibrant I was like, where the **** is the FFC? Love my phone but still. Even on the Nexus S, where the **** is HSPA+??? WTF get it together Samsung!
I give em credit for the Epic though. That phone is a beast. Keyboard, WiMAX and FFC.
Hardware seems okish seeing as there's not much advantage over the current Vibrant, like may others, the software will be the main draw for me. I am, however, a bit frustrated that it doesnt support anything past 3G, I mean really, what the heck??
No SAMOLED display no thanks.
However the phone being stock Android 2.3 is much win, no crapware.
im a little disappointed in the specs of the Nexus S. As everyone already mentioned, is almost the same as the Galaxy S phones we already have. 1ghz hummingbird, 512 ram, 4 inch screen...
but the google updates are sure nice.
Anyway, important question:
Many are saying that since the Nexus S is similar to the Vibrant, 2.3 and other Google updates should be ported over to us quickly.... But aren't the Fascinate, and Captivate similar to the Vibrant? The Captivate got an almost fully functional unnoficial 2.2 leak at least a month before we did. To my knowledge, that was not able to be ported over to the Vibrant and we had to wait for our 2.2 leak.
Furthermore, if it was as easy as porting it, the Fascinate would have 2.2 ported from the Vibrant or Captivate...right?
Am I missing something? Are the nexus S and the vibrant more similar then the vibrant and other US galaxy phones?
Im just trying to understand how Nexus S roms will be ported to us if we are not able to port things between the current Galaxy S phones?
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kboater said:
im a little disappointed in the specs of the Nexus S. As everyone already mentioned, is almost the same as the Galaxy S phones we already have. 1ghz hummingbird, 512 ram, 4 inch screen...
but the google updates are sure nice.
Anyway, important question:
Many are saying that since the Nexus S is similar to the Vibrant, 2.3 and other Google updates should be ported over to us quickly.... But aren't the Fascinate, and Captivate similar to the Vibrant? The Captivate got an almost fully functional unnoficial 2.2 leak at least a month before we did. To my knowledge, that was not able to be ported over to the Vibrant and we had to wait for our 2.2 leak.
Furthermore, if it was as easy as porting it, the Fascinate would have 2.2 ported from the Vibrant or Captivate...right?
Am I missing something? Are the nexus S and the vibrant more similar then the vibrant and other US galaxy phones?
Im just trying to understand how Nexus S roms will be ported to us if we are not able to port things between the current Galaxy S phones?
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I think the radios have something to do with it. Just speculation
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Dual-Core, Honeycomb and HSPA+ and I would've gotten it launch day. I swear, why does Samsung always come up short though? Even with the Vibrant I was like, where the **** is the FFC? Love my phone but still. Even on the Nexus S, where the **** is HSPA+??? WTF get it together Samsung!
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I don't know if Samsung deserves sole "blame" for whatever the phone's lacking; I assume Google played a role in deciding its specs, and would have demanded more if they wanted more -- that said, I'm just guessing, no clue how its development really worked...
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Well I've been showing my phone off tio my friends and most of them say they think the new mytouch is better than the vibrant and some guy thinks his ipod touch 2g is better because his pocket pond app has better graphics
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its all about personal preference.
vibrant has best gpu,samoled screen.
mt4g has flash, hspa+, and a ffc.
id personally stick with my vibrant. once its lag fixed and oc'd its a beast.
and that ipod 2g is not better than the vibrant lol that guy who said that has to be a noob, the reason pocket ponds looks so good on it,because its optimized for the hardware.
Yup! What's ffc
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blasian shadows said:
its all about personal preference.
vibrant has best gpu,samoled screen.
mt4g has flash, hspa+, and a ffc.
id personally stick with my vibrant. once its lag fixed and oc'd its a beast.
and that ipod 2g is not better than the vibrant lol that guy who said that has to be a noob, the reason pocket ponds looks so good on it,because its optimized for the hardware.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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I think he is talking LED flash
From the last Apple announcement:
Reporter: What about flash support?
Steve Jobs: Our phones love flash, that where we store things.
I do think Vibrant is a better choice, even though the Snapdragon 2nd Gen processor in HTC phones (G2 and MyTouch 4G) is a beast on its own, but if it weren't for somewhat childish looks of MTG4 and the fact that you cannot mod the damn thing (only temp root, and no RW access to NAND) makes it a bit of a downer.
Dragoth12 said:
1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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Will you have to get the official update to get flash? I'm running Eugene's froyo and my phone won't receive any updates at all for other reasons so if i can't get flash that would suck.
Dragoth12 said:
1. Vibrant will have full flash once 2.2 hits.
2. Hspa+ is a backwards compatible service, so the vibrant will still benefit from it (up to the hardware limit which is like 7 mbps)
3. You can mod a ffc onto the vibrant if you really want it...but there really aren't too many practical uses for it right now anyway.
The vibrant is by far still a better device imo.
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my mistake i should have said led flash.
and yea once the banding issues are fixed i am buying a Ffc lol
From a majority consumer point of view, the MyTough3g is better.
FFC isn't a niche device, it's pretty mainstream considering you can now chat with people who use Yahoo Messenger from your Android phone if it has a FFC. Don't really care about Qik, but Yahoo is very much in use in the world. I suspect Windows Live Messenger will debut this feature quite soon with some Windows Phones coming out with FFCs.
The phone is snappier. Doesn't have the crappy RFS file system. The GUI looks good, and the Speech recognition works great. Doesn't feel like a paper plate in you hands, either (though I've added a cover to my vibrant to put some weight on it).
The Vibrant is a good device but the software (and I've heard FroYo doesn't really change much, outside of the fact that it's FroYo and yes I do need some of the features in FroYo so I welcome it) is terrible and some of the ommisions are just mind-boggling. No LED on front for notifications, for example. No Flash. GPS that still doesn't work correctly for half the people who have it. Slow as hell file system that makes the phone unusable from time to time. Less Application RAM than an HTC Aria. The GPU really doesn't matter because Android 2.1/2.2 still doesn't have a gfx accellerated GUI and Windows Mobile 6.5 has more games than Android (more games that you're bother installing, that is).
HTC also typically has an HTC Sync application for their phones, which makes managing them much easier than Galaxy S in the US (no Kies for us).
TBQH, I'm tired defending this phone. I wonder when others will get tired of it (prolly never on this forum, people still call the HD2 the greatest phone on earth here). This device is being completely overshadowered by other offerings and the only reason why it sold so well on AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint is because:
1. T-Mobile didn't have anything else worth buying in the range of high end smartphones (HD2 not an option for most people with it's OS and problematic reputation)
2. AT&T Doesn't have much other high end smartphonts other than Palm Pres and the Torch that just came out with the Captivate (the Pre and Torch feel more mid-range compared to iOS/Android devices, and there was the Aria as well in that space).
3. Sprint had so many issues with Evo backorders/issues that customers had no issue but to get something else. They have no other good phones. Their Pres are 1st gen and no one wants a Touch Pro 2 or Hero, Lol...
How that there are other good phones coming out... I wouldn't expect much.
Not everyone is a power user. My mom doesn't cry about not being able to jailbreak her Blackberry and when she had a WinMo phone she didn't even install an app on it. She just used it as a phone/txt device (basically as a feature phone). The temp-root issue is only an issue for a very small minority of users - so it isn't even an issue at all in the grand scheme of things.
I looked at the new mytouch.
No thanks.
And I'm at a loss as to the above posters issues. This is my third android phone, and it us by far the fastest happiest android device I've used. My last phone, the Nexus one, although sexy, would need a reboot at least once a day to keep it snappy.
And I live the size if included internal memory is the Vibrant. No need for special hacks to get files on SD.
The Vibrant, for me, is a fantastic phone.
And yes, can't wait for the banding issue to be resolved for the FFC.
Oh, and it doesn't need a flash. It takes better pictures in low light conditions without one, than other phones that have a flash
Well, the one thing that is unmatched on the Galaxy S line is the amazing screen. Sorry, but I can't go back to LCD or plain AMOLED after this. After all, you use the screen more than any other feature on a smartphone.
As for the other things, it all depends on what's important to you. GPS works great for me now. FFC would be nice, but not necessary for me. As for flash? Meh, LED flash is barely adequate as a solution.
Personally, I picked the Vibrant because aside from the core smartphone functions, I wanted a phone that could also replace my old iPod. So for me, having 16gb of built-in memory was more important than even having a camera, much less a flash.
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My First Impression Of The MyTouch 4G:
The screen on the MyTouch 4G is much higher in resolution. You can barely see pixels. The MyTouch 4G produces real whites, the SuperAmoled produces green/blue whites. However the SAMOLED has a much better contrast ratio, meaning colors pop since blacks are much darker.
The 3.8 inch screen is too small for me
The Build Quality of the 4G seems to be good.
The GPU seemed slower than the Vibrants PowerVR.
The CPU is faster on the 4G.
Now here is the odd part. I must admit I've noticed the same thing with the G2.
Both the G2 and the Mytouch 4G are HSPA+, while the Vibrant is not. However, side by side, running speedtest app. The vibrant EVERY SINGLE TIME had both higher download and upload speeds. It just doesn't make sense. Side by side, the Vibrant got almost 6mbps download. MyTouch 4G best it could do was 3mbps. Same with the G2, I don't get it.
Henchman said:
I looked at the new mytouch.
No thanks.
And I'm at a loss as to the above posters issues. This is my third android phone, and it us by far the fastest happiest android device I've used. My last phone, the Nexus one, although sexy, would need a reboot at least once a day to keep it snappy.
And I live the size if included internal memory is the Vibrant. No need for special hacks to get files on SD.
The Vibrant, for me, is a fantastic phone.
And yes, can't wait for the banding issue to be resolved for the FFC.
Oh, and it doesn't need a flash. It takes better pictures in low light conditions without one, than other phones that have a flash
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Every phone has its fanbois. I just left T-Mo and played with an HD7.
Vinrant fells like an 8088 PC-XT compared to that. Only way to think this phone is snappy is to have only used worse phones.
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LOL yup so I'll wait another 2 years for a newer android phone with android 4.0 if its going there
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Me and my roomate both had our Vibrants in the store. We were astonished by the difference, just in scrolling form home screen to home screen. The Vibrants were obviously laggy doing something trivial. The Windows phone just blew through everything. The UI is beyond polished. The minimalist look definitely works well.
Microsoft definitely took the best route short of developing their own phones: Lock down the hardware and focus on doing what you do best - software ~ namely the OS and all the device drivers. Google should take note, or Android will suffer (although I'm sure it will be prevalent in the low-mid range device market, since Nokia isn't that big a player - at least in the US).
We played with the MyTouch 4G. The phone itself is ugly and I'm not a fan of screens < 4". It has some Sense elements in it which = update churn like 90% of other Android phones. The G2 performed decently but it has a whole host of problems. If you haven't experienced that ****ty hinge I implore you to go to a T-Mobile store and play with it. The minute the phone is perpendicular to the floor the phone starts closing (more like slamming) on you. That makes the phone unusable for me if I'm lying in bed and using it (as I often do before I go to bed). I guess something like an Epic 4G or Droid 2 wouldn't have that issue, though. That hinge was a terrible idea, Lol.
Oh, and did I mention the touchscreen keyboard on WP7 is /drools/ worthy.
I can't see myself getting any other Android Phone again.
If you get a phone with a UI on it that looks decent it is bound to come with hoards of issues and update churn. If you get a stock phone the built quality is pure crap and/or half the space is taken up to lock the phone down instead.
In any case, I heard FroYo for Galaxy S in the U.S. is supposed to be coming Nov. 11 on Facebook from "Samsung Galaxy S."
I heard Galaxy S performance is still below acceptable with FroYo, though... Some people are reporting regressions.
i just picked up the new mt4g. i have two phone lines (one for my work) and will probably keep both phones. i will need to use the mt4g for a couple of weeks go form a complete review/opinion on the phone v. the vibrant.
the mt4g is very solid and very snappy considering all the bloatware. with its HTC Espresso UI, the interface isn't for every body. Just like HTC sense it does a huge amount of social integration, moreso than the vibrant. And just like HTC sense you have pre-set "themes" you can load in terms of personal and business preferences.
it's screen is super crisp but no where near as "vibrant" as our vibrant phones. in terms of gaming, i haven't compared the two yet as i'm sure the mt4g can handle them well to a certain extent vs. the vibrant being that it's a second gen snapdragon. but i'm sure in terms of rendering and graphic display, it won't match the vibrant. i'll probably compare the gaming and video playback between the two later this week.
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In any case, I heard FroYo for Galaxy S in the U.S. is supposed to be coming Nov. 11 on Facebook from "Samsung Galaxy S."
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There's been no announcement or even real rumor of the sort, unfortunately.
The only thing that's confirmed is "by the end of the year".
If the mytouch had at least a 4" screen I would get it. That being said, I'm looking forward to the android version of the Dell Venue Pro
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My First Impression Of The MyTouch 4G:
The screen on the MyTouch 4G is much higher in resolution. You can barely see pixels. The MyTouch 4G produces real whites, the SuperAmoled produces green/blue whites. However the SAMOLED has a much better contrast ratio, meaning colors pop since blacks are much darker.
The 3.8 inch screen is too small for me
The Build Quality of the 4G seems to be good.
The GPU seemed slower than the Vibrants PowerVR.
The CPU is faster on the 4G.
Now here is the odd part. I must admit I've noticed the same thing with the G2.
Both the G2 and the Mytouch 4G are HSPA+, while the Vibrant is not. However, side by side, running speedtest app. The vibrant EVERY SINGLE TIME had both higher download and upload speeds. It just doesn't make sense. Side by side, the Vibrant got almost 6mbps download. MyTouch 4G best it could do was 3mbps. Same with the G2, I don't get it.
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vibrant and mt4g have the same resolution. 800x480
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There's been no announcement or even real rumor of the sort, unfortunately.
The only thing that's confirmed is "by the end of the year".
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You're wrong.
The source of my info is in the the sentence you quoted.
Looking at the Specs for the new Nexus S, there is nothing revolutionary. Seems like basically the Vibrant just renamed. Minor differences like FFC, and obvoiusly the Google experience with Gingerbread. Yet, hardware wise, the Nexus S looks like to be the same as the current Galaxy S lineup. Can you point out major differences in hardware?
link below
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
Hey, Senior member, do you think this should be posted in the development section.
Can I be a mod?
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Hey, Senior member, do you think this should be posted in the development section.
Can I be a mod?
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OHHHH woops, I totally didn't mean to post this here, Sorry.
I already notified the mods to move it, that's what I get for not paying attention while typing.
there are actually a few hardware differences that may cause some minor issues with porting. location of micro usb port and headphone jack. might also have a different gps chip in it and then the inand only issue. it will be monumentally easier to port it to our devices than cm6 made for htc devices because processor and gpu wise they are identical.
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You mean like in l33t? Don't reply, you'll spoil it
kind of same but does have some differences
major selling point for me is 2.3, google, ext4, and more developers but yea that's all software.
But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
My gripe ...bluetooth 3.0 got down graded to 2.1, external micro SD got removed, video codecs
I understand the codecs but i dont see the need to remove and downgrade hardware
I like its being sold threw local bestbuy because Ill probably end up buying it and if i dont like ill just return it
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You mean like in l33t? Don't reply, you'll spoil it
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Like 31337, actually: elite; later shortened to '1337, but never typed as l33t.
On topic: I was seriously planning on going to Nexus S, but they removed enough to make it unattractive. I'm (probably foolishly) going to give Sammy a chance to go ahead and get 2.3 on the SGS line. The world knows it's not just possible, but simple to do so.
If not, I have faith that XDA will fill that role whilst I search for a new primary phone mfg.
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But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
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what do you mean it has a new antenna? what type of new antenna.
yeah it's diff.
first thing is NFC
bluetooth etc
not to mention the FFC
the Nexus S is thicker too.
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there are actually a few hardware differences that may cause some minor issues with porting. location of micro usb port and headphone jack. might also have a different gps chip in it and then the inand only issue. it will be monumentally easier to port it to our devices than cm6 made for htc devices because processor and gpu wise they are identical.
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If that's true, awesome. But won't the different file formats make it more difficult to port? Isn't the fact that we have RFS the reason why it's so difficult getting AOSP on there in the first place? I'm curious because if it's going to be an easy port to get NS ROMS then there's really no reason for an "upgrade".
I dont believe the nexus s records hd 720p video either...
Nothing on the nexus s wool get me to switch... And if I want a ffc I'd just mod one on....
Vibrant ftmfw
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If that's true, awesome. But won't the different file formats make it more difficult to port? Isn't the fact that we have RFS the reason why it's so difficult getting AOSP on there in the first place? I'm curious because if it's going to be an easy port to get NS ROMS then there's really no reason for an "upgrade".
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Did anyone confirm what filesystem Samsung implemented for Nexus S?
There are a few differences hardware wise:
- No SD expansion slot
- FFC by default
- LED flash by default
- Menu, Home, Back and Search keys are in different order (I do not get it, why all the different phones even from the same manufacturer have to have different key layout )
- There could be different screen used in markets other than US and UK.
- NFC
The only real benefit of NS over its Galaxy S cousins is the carrier independent software releases/updates it seems.
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I dont believe the nexus s records hd 720p video either...
Nothing on the nexus s wool get me to switch... And if I want a ffc I'd just mod one on....
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Reports show it does do 720p video. FFC mod is still a fail in my book as it makes the rear camera pretty crappy. And then only a subset of apps support ffc on the vibrant.
I wont switch to ns, BUT I would choose it over vibrant if I had to buy all over again.
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Reports show it does do 720p video.
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Its capable of 720p but not out of the box... It does not record @ 1280x720
It will be added later im sure by google or a developer here.
They did it with the nexus one
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kind of same but does have some differences
major selling point for me is 2.3, google, ext4, and more developers but yea that's all software.
But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
My gripe ...bluetooth 3.0 got down graded to 2.1, external micro SD got removed, video codecs
I understand the codecs but i dont see the need to remove and downgrade hardware
I like its being sold threw local bestbuy because Ill probably end up buying it and if i dont like ill just return it
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That's all true, the Nexus S is built for developer in mind. Not for consumer daily usage. My dad said the phone does have new GPS hardware. The screen is basically the same, except slight curve on glass, all current SGS phone can be curved during manufacturing. But Google want that design specifically for Nexus S only.
But this time Nexus S actually do have 16GB memory rather than 13GB for storage. 3GB for programs extra.
This is all I know so far. Will be getting the phone anyway cause its newer hardware.
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The only real benefit of NS over its Galaxy S cousins is the carrier independent software releases/updates it seems.
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"only real benefit"?
This is a _HUGE_ benefit. Everybody on XDA, in every forum, is constantly waiting for the devs to strip out all the manufacturer garbage, and release something close to stock as soon as google announces a new version.
I am crossing my fingers that the Nexus S is close enough to the Vibrant that within a week or two of the nexus hitting the streets we'll have a pulled vibrant-compatible ROM. If that doesn't happen then the hardware is different enough that devs will still be on the same cycle for the vibrant that we're currently on-- held back by Samsung's ability to crap touchwiz all over a year-old OS.
And then I'll get a Nexus S so I can finally be on a reasonable upgrade cycle for a phone of this speed.
The poll is bad because it's too black and white. Can't vote without feeling like I'm lying.
They are similar enough hardware wise that the Nexus S cannot be considered an Upgrade to Galaxy S phones (not just the Vibrant, any of them). Add in the actual bad points (No SD Card Slot, Downgraded Bluetooth functionality, etc.) and that phone becomes a bit of a joke. Maybe the released specs are an inside joke between Samsung and Google, and they're actually different than we think they are...?
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Like 31337, actually: elite; later shortened to '1337, but never typed as l33t.
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Usually only the vowels are replaced with numbers, else the **** becomes unreadable. L33T is readable. 1337 is not. The readability comes from the contrast between the numbers and the letters, as well as the fact that the numbers look similar to the letters. Turning every letter into a number only seems readable to you because you did it, and there are 26 letters - there aren't enough numbers to replace them.
Readable = R34d4bl3
It's called L33TSP34K.
i hope it still has download mode and uses Odin since its pretty much impossible to brick
Its a coin toss really; not a thumbs up or down imho
This is all strictly in my humble opinion based on the fact that I'm a T-Mobile customer, and own a Vibrant. That said, like others here I acknowledge the [subtle(?)] differences between the Galaxy S devices and the Nexus S so I'm onboard with:
NFC
FFC
Camera Flash
Support for T-Mobile's network (for those who care, like me)
Curved Display
The "pure Google experience" and everything that entails
But I don't feel all the new features should be considered 'pros' because they're not features I'm longing for or really desire at the moment:
NFC: Few places in my area support this so I don't see how I'm going to make much use of this initially
Curved Display: I hardly consider this a feature; I don't see/understand how I'm going to benefit. Its not like I'm getting cramps holding my phone.
And as others have voiced, I share the same sentiments that in some ways the Nexus S is a step backwards:
Lacks a microSD slot
Defaults to 480 recording
No HSPA+ (for those it matters to, like me)
Bluetooth downgraded from 3.0 to 2.3 with EDR+
Unfortunately for me, some of these missing feaures are a big deal:
The lack of a microSD slot is nearly a deal breaker.
If the recording is software controlled, why is it nerfed out of the box? Lame. Now we have to rely on some group of devs to figure this out, or wait for Google to release an update to address this issue, if they even consider it an issue.
The lack of HSPA+ is just a disappointment, but at least its a lateral move.
I don't use BT so much these days so I'm not really missing anything, but why not 3.0?
I was hoping for an 'immediate future proof' device. Honestly, I'll have to handle the device to be swayed in either direction. If the lack of Sammy's poorly implemented RFS produces a lag-free experience in general, and there aren't any GPS issues, or really annoying issues in general, that just might be enough for me to jump, but its a tough call right now.
Sources:
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=t-mobile-mytouch-4g&phone=samsung-vibrant-a-galaxy-s-phone
http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
http://www.google.com/nexus/tech-specs.html#!/tech-specs
Multiple: http://www.pcworld.com/search?qt=Nexus+s&s=d
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I am just curious, what is the baddest phone on the mkt now? I love my Nexus, haven't kept up with a lot of the newest releases. Wondering everyone's opinions.
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I am just curious, what is the baddest phone on the mkt now? I love my Nexus, haven't kept up with a lot of the newest releases. Wondering everyone's opinions.
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Hardware-wise? Probably the Atrix from Motorola, if you can handle a locked bootloader (so no fully custom roms).
The upcoming HTC Sensation looks promising too, though they still seem to be stuck in the ways of low internal memory and using SD cards for expansion...
So is it an HTC thing making us partition our SD cards to get enough memory to run all the rom's etc we like? Does AT&T have anything cool, or able to be run on their system like my Nexus does? I know most hate them, but in my area it is my best option and I have no problems with them.
Only thing missing on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is HDMI out. It has DLNA (wifi streaming)
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Only thing missing on the Samsung Galaxy S2 is HDMI out. It has DLNA (wifi streaming)
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So....it can't broadcast or share the HDMI recordings or pics through an external device ie a TV or computer?
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So....it can't broadcast or share the HDMI recordings or pics through an external device ie a TV or computer?
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TV will have to support DLNA, For the PC you will need to use the USB cable. I'd skip the S2 if you really want hdmi.
Take a look at the Optimus G2X it has HDMI.
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TV will have to support DLNA, For the PC you will need to use the USB cable. I'd skip the S2 if you really want hdmi.
Take a look at the Optimus G2X it has HDMI.
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That optimus sounds pretty cool. Since it is a Tmobile device and say I bought an open one, or one without a carrier. Swapping out the card from my nexus would work right?
Wondering if I can walk into a tmo store on 20th and get a g2x sim free?
Anyone know?
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Is the g2x sim card different from my nexus1? Are they different because of the 4g capability?
You can drop an AT&T sim right in, has the right freqs for 3g. Cons I see are small battery and my experience with LG build quality is not comforting. I would add memory to that but I'm expecting proper a2sd from the smart people soon enough.
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You can drop an AT&T sim right in, has the right freqs for 3g. Cons I see are small battery and my experience with LG build quality is not comforting. I would add memory to that but I'm expecting proper a2sd from the smart people soon enough.
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I plan on moving to the G2X from an Optimus T (my Nexus One kicked the bucket awhile back), and I gotta say that despite the T not being made of any super high quality materials, I really like the feel of it. The G2X seems to employ some of the same ideas so it might be a pleasant surprise build-wise.
Batteries seem to have been forgotten by a LOT of manufacturers. If I remember correctly the GS2's is 1650mAh and the HTC Sensation's is something like 1530mAh, and the G2X's is 1500mAh. None of those seem stellar, but I'm a bit more forgiving of the G2X's because I have a hard time believing that the larger 4.3" screens on the other two aren't going to suck a fair bit more battery than the G2X's smaller 4" display.
Baddest depends on your needs. I personally think the HTC sensation is the 'baddest' out there at the moment. Its specs are top notch and looks like the newer, bigger brother of the N1 (Albeit minus the trackball). However, the G2X looks nice as well....again it all depends on your needs.
My meaning of the "baddest" was basically the nicest phone with the best features. Which I know can be taken differently by different people.
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Baddest depends on your needs. I personally think the HTC sensation is the 'baddest' out there at the moment. Its specs are top notch and looks like the newer, bigger brother of the N1 (Albeit minus the trackball). However, the G2X looks nice as well....again it all depends on your needs.
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Looks like a nice phone but looks like a summer release, which means Sept or Oct if I actually were to wait on it. It does look like the big brother of the N1. It has lots of nice specs too aside from Sense.
The Tmobile G2X is available online in a few days, dual core, 4" screen, HDMI out and it has stock Android. I believe the phone is unlocked and easily rooted. Looking over at the LG thread they already have custom firmwares and kernels etc. CM7 is already in the works and should be here shortly.
I've been doing a lot of research and I think I'm sold on the G2X mainly because my Nexus One has crappy download speeds on 3G and they just released 4G in my area. I've been looking at the 4G phones for some time but have been waiting for a Tegra 2 chipset.
I've been searching on the different GPU's involving the Orion SGS2 and the Snapdragon 2... and I think Nvidia is really pushing mobile games and with NVidia support will only equal it being around longer. Plus the Motorola Xoom is Google's main platform for honeycomb and it uses the Tegra 2 for GUI acceleration.
So Game and OS acceleration = Tegra 2
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Looks like a nice phone but looks like a summer release, which means Sept or Oct if I actually were to wait on it. It does look like the big brother of the N1. It has lots of nice specs too aside from Sense.
The Tmobile G2X is available online in a few days, dual core, 4" screen, HDMI out and it has stock Android. I believe the phone is unlocked and easily rooted. Looking over at the LG thread they already have custom firmwares and kernels etc. CM7 is already in the works and should be here shortly.
I've been doing a lot of research and I think I'm sold on the G2X mainly because my Nexus One has crappy download speeds on 3G and they just released 4G in my area. I've been looking at the 4G phones for some time but have been waiting for a Tegra 2 chipset.
I've been searching on the different GPU's involving the Orion SGS2 and the Snapdragon 2... and I think Nvidia is really pushing mobile games and with NVidia support will only equal it being around longer. Plus the Motorola Xoom is Google's main platform for honeycomb and it uses the Tegra 2 for GUI acceleration.
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I'm sooo glad you posted this. I currently have a Nexus One w/ ATT 3G bands and was gonna pick up a G2X off contract when it comes out. Wasn't sure about that yesterday when I found out about the Sensation but your reasoning is 100% agreeable.
Yea I can't see Qualcomm or Samsung pushing game developers like NVidia.
The 4.0" screen is the same IPS screen found on the iPhone 4. While I was a little iffy about a non-Amoled screen after the Nexus, comparisons show that it is brighter and cleaner then the existing Amoled screens, excluding the Super Duper Amoled Plus Plus screen coming on with the SGS2 in the coming months because it isn't out yet.
The only negative I can find is that it is limited to 14.4 mpbs, which so is the HTC Sensation.
Here is a video comparing some games on the LG and the SGS2...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo&feature=related
Spoiler Alert: Tegra 2 wins.
If u want something now, then the G2X looks like a nice choice for tmobile. But, if u can wait then keep an eye on the Sensation...
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Here is a video comparing some games on the LG and the SGS2...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo&feature=related
Spoiler Alert: Tegra 2 wins.
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That video makes the SGS2 screen look so much better, hope its just a youtube thing... the ONLY thing keeping me from jumping on G2X instead of waiting for the sensation is the screen...
GS2 does support HDMI out, over its new MHL port (USB and HDMI in one).
I don't really like Samsung for dicking about their customers on their first android phones but they seem to be rolling out updates for the GalaxyS in good time. I think the S2 is my new phone.
The hummingbird processor stomped all over everything when it came out, Exynos will do the same, i mean has anyone see its most recent quadrant score? Over 3000.
Also, no pentile AMOLED screen, WOOT!
I just hope the dev community gets behind it, they don't seem to give the GalaxyS much love...
Android LG g2x,Htc evo 3d and pyramid, moto bionic,galaxy s 2.
Windows 7 : nokia n8 type of hardware duo core 12mp camera xenon flash coming Q4 maybe.
HP palm the pre 3
Symbian x7
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As announced by Eric Schmidt. How soon after the Prime is released will the Nexus S get it? How soon after the Nexus S came out did the nexus 1 get GB?
Samsung GT-I9250 'confirmed' as Google Nexus Prime
www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-co...i9250-confirmed-as-google-nexus-prime-1017480
From the Article
Samsung's upcoming GT-I9250 smartphone has been pretty much confirmed as the Google Nexus Prime based on the handset's user agent profile (UAP) hosted on a Samsung-owned website.
Sitting on the wap.samsungmobile.com domain, the UAP is titled nexusprime.xml and makes reference to the model number GT-I9250 – we already guessed that this would be the Nexus Prime, leaving the GT- I9220 as be the Samsung-branded version of the phone.
The other sliver of information gleaned from the file is that the handset will have a 480x800 WVGA resolution display – which fits with the rumoured Super AMOLED screen we've been hearing so much about.
The prime of life
Sadly there's no indication of whether or not the remaining speculated specs are accurate – we still have our fingers crossed for a 1.5GHz dual core processor.
One thing that seems certain is that if this launches as the Google Nexus Prime, the handset will be the Ice Cream Sandwich launch device.
With everyone and his dog anticipating an autumn release for the next Google OS, the Nexus Prime's release date can't be far off now.
So they remove hardware buttons and keep res the same? Sounds like another fake to me.
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So they remove hardware buttons and keep res the same? Sounds like another fake to me.
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I think I read/listened somewhere that the buttons are going away(there capacitive anywhos so its like using the screen anyways) The screen with that low resolution eh its still a small screen so
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So they remove hardware buttons and keep res the same? Sounds like another fake to me.
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If ICS is a GB/HC mashup that is seamless between phones and tablets it would only make sense to take away the capacative buttons on a phone.
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I was kind of hoping the rumors about the Prime having a Super Amoled HD screen were true :/
I wont be getting a Prime, but Ill be interested to see the direction things are going with regards to screen size. Personally I find the 4" screen on the NS just about perfect. Anything wider than that is much less pocket friendly.
supposedly:
4.5" SAMOLED+ HD display (as in SAMOLED+ v2.0)
Dual Core snapdragon 1.5 Ghz CPU
16GB or 32GB internal storage depending on model
NO microsSD support just like Nexus S
same 540 gpu
same 5 MPIX camera
same rounded corners
same NFC
same GPS
same WiFi
same BT
1650 mAh battery
supposedly 1GB RAM
supposedly going to be released by Verizon first (i guess Tmobile finally lost the bit, all past Nexus devices was always released 1st by Tmobile)
Nexus 3 (prime) is going to be produced by SAMSUNG
and yes the default stock OS will be IceCream
all these info was pulled from many different sites and speculations, so take it with a grain of salt
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I wont be getting a Prime, but Ill be interested to see the direction things are going with regards to screen size. Personally I find the 4" screen on the NS just about perfect. Anything wider than that is much less pocket friendly.
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If you think about it, remove the capacative buttons on the NS and fill that space with screen and it wouldn't make MUCH of a difference lol
Thats my opinion tho...I really hope it has that HD screen...and a better camera, etc...if it has microSD card slot then im sold lol
The next Google dev device will NOT be on verizon first. They may get a 'droid prime' but it wont be a nexus
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I was kind of hoping the rumors about the Prime having a Super Amoled HD screen were true :/
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Given the time frame Samsung has given for rollout of the new screens and the screen sizes they'll be initially available for, this seems possible, but I'm not sure it ascends to the level of likely. Still, I'm with you in hoping.
i'll probably get the Samsung Nexus 3 if they really releases it with 32GB for Tmobile
a Nexus is always by far a much safer choice, when you want to have the latest and newest in the development arena
however the short of microSD and old 5mpix camera is really a big no no for me
Samsung Galaxy 2 for Tmobile (aka Hercules) has the perfect spec that i seek, but development support is a wild bet, at least it'll have CM7
More "SD" space is good, though if they do that I hope they also increase the "internal" partition. For my purposes, though, a storage expansion isn't a big deal. For me, the biggest things hardware wise are camera (a better camera that takes better pictures, not necessarily an 8+ MP one), RAM (I'll be very disappointed to see less than 1GB, and I wouldn't even say no to twice that), and battery life (if you can make it last twice as long by making the phone a few millimeters thicker, for god's sake, just make the phone thicker). T-Mobile compatibility is also important for me, but just in general I think having it available on more carriers faster (preferably simultaneously) is better.
All the other goodies are fine and dandy, and would certainly affect my decision whether to buy it, but those are the biggest things for me.
Waiting for those official specs...
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most importantly is battery life!!
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most importantly is battery life!!
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That's the only thing guaranteed, crappy batt life
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That's the only thing guaranteed, crappy batt life
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Yup. Qft
If it's 4.65", chances are good that I'm passing. Sad face.
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Please have a notification LED.
No buttons means we can't create a makeshift notification system a la BLN (which was absolutely genius by the way).
Even the SGS II cannot use BLN to it's fullest capacity as their devices require a wakelock to keep the keys on which destroys battery. BLN was just fortunate enough in all aspects (stability, reliability, battery) to be something that the Galaxy S line and the Nexus S could fully enjoy.
I probably wouldn't be using my Nexus S right now without BLN. I truly think an external indicator is THAT important. So please please please give us one.
I'm the opposite. I've had bln on all my device until the nexus s. Phones never leave my hand so I never used it. I would always disable it. Different strokes.
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I don't personally feel like I need a notification light, but it's one of those things that seems like it ought to be simple and cheap enough to include for those who do. I've been somewhat intrigued by how ongoing standby notifications in general- visual and aural- have been vanishing over the past couple years. I suppose it's because with smartphones these days they expect you'll be using the thing constantly anyway. >.>
Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
The issue isn't really the screen size, IMO. The issue is the screen resolution. They are increasing sizes to epic proportions, but not increasing the resolution which degrades video on the screen compared to 4-4.3" devices. 4.3" @ WVGA is already borderline for me. I require qHD for a 4.5-4.7" screen. It's just that simple. The phoen can be the hottest thing since sliced bread, but the screen is what I look at all the time I look at it. Vibrant colors aren't enough anymore. Need a better PPI.
If I had a choice, and if the Amaze does have 16GB internal storage... It's pretty much a no brainer. Amaze it is.
Only thing I don't like is that HTC Sense has become cluttered as **** lately. I used my Mom's inspire and got knocked the **** out when I long pressed on the home screen. There was so much crap there...
4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
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OMG, yea.. that .2" is the deal breaker for me! Especially considering that is measured diagonally! That is like .1" in each direction! And yes.. that is sarcasm. I don't think that .2" should be a defining characteristic to anyone unless the device itself gets significantly bigger than that as a whole.
I am not sure that this is the same on all devices(phones, tablets, pc/macs) but I am pretty sure THIS "--" is longer than .2". If you don't believe me, go find a ruler or tape measure, or I am pretty sure there is an app for that.. .2" is nothing.
Anyways, THAT aside.. I will agree to an extent that as screen size gets bigger, so should the resolution or ppi.. but then again it would have to significantly increase in size before you notice any degradation in quality. Yes, the iPhone has its "whatever the hell it's called" display(too tired lazy to remember/look it up), and MAYBE it is noticeable compared to devices like the vibrant.. but increasing to a 4.5" device isn't going to be a huge downgrade by far.
Besides, I haven't even considered the HTC amaze 4g.. why? I haven't heard it is coming to t-mobile(pretty sure it isn't..). I am not going to switch carriers for a phone.. the phone I buy is based on the carriers, what they offer, and the prices.. so is it coming for tmo? If not, than what reason do you have to switch to their carrier BESIDES the phone?
/rant. Too tired for this anyways.
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Aren't all of those the same specs the same that the prime is supposed to have, except for a 5mp camera(with a better sensor instead)? Except it will have ice cream sandwich? Haven't we learned anything from our vibrants? Buy a device that is either truly superior, or starts off with a better software upgrade.. I would rather have something that will software-wise be superior and equal or better hardware wise..
Not sure why my distaste for 4.5" displays twisted your panties so tightly, but have you ever held a phone that size in your hand? I have, and it wasn't comfortable. I'm not all that fond of the 4.3" size either, but its a little less of an adjustment to get used to, since I know several people with phones that size and have had a chance to compare them to my Vibrant. Rant about factual errors all you like; keep your rants about other people's preferences between your ears (doing that also has the added benefit of making it less obvious there's plenty of room there for rants to knock around).
The Amaze was called Ruby during development, if I'm not mistaken, and yes, its coming to T-Mo. So start thinking about it.
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If these are accurate, this will be my next phone... if I can keep myself from buying a Sensation, that is.
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ill be buying a hercules!!
And having fun at #NeverAgain 2.0 after they release the Galaxy S 2.5 4-5 months later for forget about your T-Mobile model that has different hardware components from basically all the other variants?
AT&T are setting themselves up good with their model. They're sticking pretty close to the international variant there...
Based on the HD recording abilities, the Amaze is looking pretty nice.
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
I like the fact that Cyanogen works at Samsung now, and how quickly Samsung has been with releasing source for their Galaxy S II phones (although not the T-Mobile variant yet from what I can tell).
I haven't had experience with HTC since the G1, are they as good at modding as the Samsung devices right now?
Amaze. It's an HTC and the specs are literally identical except the Amaze has a qHD 4.3" SLCD Screen vs. 4.52" WVGA SAMOLED+ and the Amaze has a superior camera.
Gonna have to go with the Amaze 4G, provided I even decide to waste another Year+ with T-Mobile.
However, it's rumored that the Galaxy SII has support for AT&T UMTS/HSPA+ Bands, as well.
If that's the case, I'll get the GSII and ETF after a month and move to AT&T, since T-Mobile has less bloatware they put on their devices... Only two GSM Carriers here so a T-Mobile phoen with all brands is as good as an Unlocked, Unbranded device...
If the Amaze 4G has those bands as well, then it's a blow-out. There's also the possibility to just get a Cheap Atrix 4G and call it a day. With the updates those run decently now.
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Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
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HTC needs to stick with the people who made the Droid incredible 2 super lcd screen. Those displays are spectacular. I don't think I'll be going with the amaze 4g. Sense is nice the amaze has 3.5 sense no idea what's the difference between 3.0 and 3.5. I know partially that sense 3.5 doesn't have hardware limitations. Besides the screen size and the UI overlays the phones are the essentially the same. I'm still going for this phone so tired of HTC's hit and misses on phones.
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I agree the Amaze 4G is clearly a better phone but why is it SO FAT and heavy! Look at its dimensions...nearly a small brick in fatness and it weighs 176g without any sort of sliding keyboard or anything. It's weight is not even in battery as the battery is a 1730mah or 1750mah...not even the 1850mah that the Hercules has.
I'm a little dissappoint in the physical design on the phone. Wish Samsung would have crammed a 720p screen on the Hercules and then we would not even be talking about this. Sigh.
rbtady said:
So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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wait....
you are mixing up 2 things
SAMOLED+ vs. sLCD screens has nothing to do with 1080p Video Recording
a screen it's just a screen its function is only to display stuff, not record
the recording part is done by the camera and the video encoding chip inside the phone
as for the NFC it's part there it has been shown here, but it might or might not be right
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-T-Mobile_id5541
another source
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/unannounced-samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-bearing-godli/
HTC Amaze 4g
Hercules FTW
Hercules is better lower res means more speed bigger battery more use an upgradeable to 2000 an Samoled + an nice design an the have a better layout
dan1son said:
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
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TBH - most of the reviews I've seen about the Sensation/Amaze screen state that they are inferior to the SGSII - regardless of the resolution. LCD is simply an inferior technology.