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I know this is the Evo forum but I want to ask Evo users like myself what would prefer. Getting updates on time or dual core phone. Again I put it in the Evo forum because I am only interested in your opinion. And please try not to be biased. Thanks
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What about the Echo?
Double the screen, double the fun - right?
It would be a nexus for me.
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Currently working on trying to get a Nexus S 4G . It seems when I sent my evo in for replacement under warranty Sprint decided to count that as a new phone and set me back 22 months before an upgrade . I found this out when I called about my date since the release is tomorrow . I sent in a dispute about that and the fact my upgrade date got changed after I signed the contract (Hey why the hell not give it a shot) . The nexus S will have direct updates from google and none of the added on bloat other phones are stricken with
Here's my plan. Since beat buy will allow you to return I think 3 phones - I pre ordered an evo 3d but am buying a nexus tomorrow. If i love the nexus, I'll cancel my evo order. If not, I'll still get the evo. If it ends up having an encrypted bootloader or i dont like it as much as the nexus I will probably return/sell/trade it for a nexus or wait for a gs2 announcement.
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For me, nexus. For a couple reasons, the first is Google updates ice cream sandwich is coming very sooon and rumor is it is bringing hardware acceleration goodness...miui has moved to the nexus s as the main device, and I love miui. Have you used super amoled yet? I love my evo but honestly I want something sleeker and thinner now. The battery life is amazing on the nexus
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of the 2.. i will get the e3d..
nexus s .. is far out classed by phones coming out this summer.
now.. when the next nexus comes out... that might be a different situation. my upgrade will not be till Dec.. so, we will see.
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For me, nexus. For a couple reasons, the first is Google updates ice cream sandwich is coming very sooon and rumor is it is bringing hardware acceleration goodness...miui has moved to the nexus s as the main device, and I love miui. Have you used super amoled yet? I love my evo but honestly I want something sleeker and thinner now. The battery life is amazing on the nexus
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And the form factor is absolutely beautiful!
However, I believe 2.3.4 is equipped with hardware acceleration...
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Sense 3.0 makes it that much tasty...
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whats really holding me back is pricing. I have to buy the phone off contract and I like tht the nexus is 550 but I wonder how much the 3d will be. I have a feeling that it is going to be like 650-700. what is bb return policy
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And the form factor is absolutely beautiful!
However, I believe 2.3.4 is equipped with hardware acceleration...
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There is parts that are HW Acceleration but not the whole UI
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Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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In 18 months this phone is going to hopelessly old and outdated, no matter what software the release.
And I think that statement refereed to new phones.
There's another thread talking about this already. The answer is that it's not guaranteed. This only applies to NEW devices being released. Since the Atrix was release a couple of months back, this doesn't apply.
In 18 months it will be running the same version as brand new devices released during that time.
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LordOfTheSnatch said:
Google and Motorola and AT&T have partnered to bring quick and latest updates to the Atrix for 18 months past release date! That means we'll be getting all os updates between now Sept. 2012!
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NOT TRUE! Watch it again, he said "..all new phones..". I would assume that means from today on out. They also used the words "hardware has to allow the update". So speculate all you want but dont post incorrect statements like they are fact.
Yeah I started my post, had to run and didn't know there was a similar post before I hit submit.
New and capable...atrix fits that bill.
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Let's all hope we get Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://briefmobile.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-unites-phones-and-tablets-in-q4-2011
No. The Atrix doesn't. Is it capable? Probably, but it's definitely not new i.e. new and capable vs. new OR capable.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-clarifies-18-month-android-upgrade-program-details-far-f/
Here's an updated Engadget article. If you notice they specifically mention that this applies to new devices only. There's no guarantee ICS for the Atrix, unless Moto comes out and says it. Anyway, more clarification on this subject would be great.
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Theres no reason to worry if we get it or not. If we do then great. But why are we worrying about this when we havnt even gotten gingerbread. I'll be happy with a dual core friendly OS. By the time ICS is ready we will all be upgrading or upgraded already.
I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update
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I think 18 months is when we are going to get the update
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to 2.3
I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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LordOfTheSnatch said:
I'd be willing to bet 2.3 hits early to mid June. Not known fact but given the quickness they've already released updates for the Atrix, they really have little reason to hold out on this.
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Would you be referring to 2.3 Gingerbread or ICS? Although google never gave ICS an official number (AFAIK), for all we know it'll be 2.3.X. If your referring to Gingerbread, that would make sense, in theory, but as Moto got Honeycomb early, for all we know they could have gotten ICS before Google oficially announced it and they could be putting the final touches on it right now. But that is all hopeful speculation.
More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
Just my 2 cents.
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I bet I can have 2 kids with the same woman before we get 2 updates to the core android os.
God I hate all the naysayers always trying to be negitive. There is a very good chance that this will apply to us.
I think Atrix does fit the bill. When the SGS2 arrives on ATT ...that would be a "new" release. Does that mean GS2's hardware is that much newer than the Atrix? If the SGS2 gets these updates...I'm sure the Atrix will too...
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I wouldn't get too excited. They don't even know how they are going to accomplish this yet. It's nice to see an effort from carriers and Google, but this is just something they threw together to present at I/O. There are no details.
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More likely than not we'll get ICS around July to August.
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I need to amend what I said earlier. I have done a bit more research and have come to find ICS slated for Q4 so about then we should get ICS (October maybe? A birthday preasent for me? ). We *may* see GB in th July/August mark.
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Atrix hardware will clearly support it. There will be newer phones released in the next 6 months...and pretty sure the hardware won't be better than the Atrix. How many dual cores are on the market now? Moto set the bar with Atrix...upcoming phones are trying to match it or make it look "better" by overlooking their chips
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Hello,
Just wanted your thoughts on the Official Gingerbread for Vibrant.
Do you think it will ever come?
Do you even care?
Any feedback is appreciated .
Cm7 is gingerbread so its already out lol
Need help with cm7? Pm me I can try to help
I don't think about it because I don't care. Gingerbread for the Vibrant 3G is the last thing on Samsungs list.
i have cm7 so i could care less! i will be getting the hercules in a few months anyway
The Gingerbread ROMS are already pretty smooth and nice so I no longer care about the stock one which they seem that don't even WANT to update.
Whatev's when I get the chance I will be buying the SGSII.
...When it doesn't cost a lung for me lol
It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
Ditto.
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Probably not coming since the Galaxy S 4G is essentially the successor to the original Vibrant. It would be a terrible sales decision for T-Mobile to support the older model, especially when the two are almost identical except for 4G, an FFC, and the lack of internal storage on the 4G.
I hate u guys.
I guess my best bet is to hunt craigslist for a nexus s.
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Really?
No CM7 is the same experience you will get with a Nexus S.
Buy a dual core phone or
Wait for next year.
Quad Cores aren't supposed to be ready until Q3 2012 or early 2013.
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I wouldn't mind waiting, I've played around with the 4g vibrant, and I like the 3g model better. The ffc is no big deal with me.
But I have a gut feeling that it will be early next year before we get a 2.3 from tmobile.
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It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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I cant afford a new dual core and my plan isnt up til dec of next year. Nexus seems the way to go unless u guys wanna buy me a hercules
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Alanrocks15 said:
Really?
No CM7 is the same experience you will get with a Nexus S.
Buy a dual core phone or
Wait for next year.
Quad Cores aren't supposed to be ready until Q3 2012 or early 2013.
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Sorry, but current dual cores devices are useless and equally as fast as the Nexus S since ICS is yet to be released to optimize Android for multicore devices. You may as well get the one phone guaranteed to get ICS which will increase the Nexus's speed as well. The G2X looks like its not getting ICS and the Sensation would be bogged down by Sense again. Galaxy S2, maybe.
No offense because the 2.3 Roms out right now are smooth. But they straight murder the battery life. Why have a mobile device if you a charge every 8 hours.
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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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No, I held out hope because Samsung promised and promised and promised, and there was a BIG media hullabaloo about the lack of timeliness on the 2.2 update.
Samsung has had exactly ONE press release saying they're putting 2.3 on "all" Galaxy S phones and nobody in the media is talking about a lack of update. Basically, it's as if no-one cares, Samsung included. Only a few people on forums are making any fuss about it, and everybody knows forums in general fly fairly low under the radar.
I still say we're not going to see it, and even if Samsung delivers it before the end of the year, it's far too little far too late. I have no desire to reward their failures and apathy with more purchases.
edit: Oh, and you can thank the ****ing SGS 4G for the lack of an update. IT'S getting 2.3 leaks left and ****ing right, and the rumor is from devs in the know that there isn't even 2.3 source code in existence for the Vibrant.
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Sorry, but current dual cores devices are useless and equally as fast as the Nexus S since ICS is yet to be released to optimize Android for multicore devices. You may as well get the one phone guaranteed to get ICS which will increase the Nexus's speed as well. The G2X looks like its not getting ICS and the Sensation would be bogged down by Sense again. Galaxy S2, maybe.
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You are right the good thing about dual cores is one core is incharge of one process and other core incharge of another process. This would probably be best for me as I am constantly studying in school, and switch between apps really fast and single core just cant take from browser to xxxx app to xxxx app and back to browser without it getting stuck!?
If you got like 15 apps and just use it for ROMS and GPS and shiny fast things then by all means stick with the Galaxy S.
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Prolly the same thing you said about froyo. No faith
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Yep just ask the behold 2 users oh wait they never did get their update never mind.
raduque said:
It's not going to happen.
And neither will me buying another Samsung mobile device, ever.
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This........
Galaxy S2 will go no longer than Ice Cream Sandwich.
Galaxy S3 will only go like 2 updates
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I hope Gingerbread is actually released one day with source and that it will be possible to make the alterations such as removing CIQ that were done with Froyo.
Time will tell.
Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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We will get it. The new Conquer has it and it is basically an Epic. I think they want to resolve the reboot issue that has plagued new Gingerbread releases from the start. Then they can wash their hands of the Epic and not worry about any more maintenance releases.
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Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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This. Too all those who doubt, read again.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Well what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be much improvement from the last few leaks..
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It's coming, but I voted later.
I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Zeinzu said:
I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Wouldn't doubt it hah
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
I want an Epic2 so bad right now, I think the last rdf pushed me over the line I'm affraid to say...
I wish the epic2 had a keyboard. I'm probably going to hold off on getting any new phones until the next good android with a slide out keyboard. in the meantime I really wish they would put out source to our Dev's who seem to have a much better handle on debugging and let us get our cyanogen on. Hell with a good cyanogen 7 rom I probably wouldnt get a new phone for another 2-3 years.
Agreed, I mean I have to face the facts, Ill have this phone for at least 1 more year, and I'm sure longer, since Ill probably wait till the next "thing" comes out after I'm eligable for an upgrade.
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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I agree here. The International version has reportedly received timely updates. I don't know if they were referring to 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 or an incremental bug fix upgrade but supposedly they don't have this issue. I can't resist anymore. I went to the Sprint store and the Manager is going to hold one for me until I get there on launch day. Maybe having 2 active phones is excessive but I can't wait until my upgrade comes. Also, I am not ready to get rid of my Epic. I still love this phone.
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Verizon??? The company with the last Galaxy S phone to get updated? The single carrier not to have any SIGN of the gingerbread update ever coming out for their Galaxy S phone? The carrier that believes that the Droid Charge is a suitable replacement for THE GS2? Sprint is probably the best carrier to bet on for upgrades to non "Droid" phones...
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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qb , maybe you should send a "how-to" video to Sprint/Samsung showing 'em how to get Gingerbread fixed and released
I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
Zeinzu said:
I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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Your opinion is GARBAGE lol
My friend has the fascinate and he hasnt seen an update since the half assed froyo update they got. Lol im not a commie. Youre entitled to your opinion, but it needs to be backed up with facts lol
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I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
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Look how fast the g2 got it
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I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Good Luck and Enjoy.
marcusva79 said:
I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Sorry to see you Marcus, you've been a great asset to the evo community. Too bad you couldn't hold out till June for the LtEVO.
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I'm in the same boat, but my charging port fell out last year With sprints TEP now being $11, (starting in June) I'm wondering which phone will be more durable, the Galaxy Nexus or Evo 4g LTE?
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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Same here man. I don't remember the last time I used an EVO Sense ROM. I will probably be joining you.
Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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I'm gona be on that galaxy S III train, for sure.
Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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What persuaded you to go that route vs. the EVO LTE? I mean, Sense is way toned down with the new 4.0, and seems to not do much but enhance the experience. Just want to point out that I haven't ran a Sense ROM in about 6 months either, but the new version seems nice, and the hardware on the LTE is absolutely sick!
Anyway, I'm asking because I'm in the Nexus vs. EVO LTE vs. GSIII boat right now...
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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+1
I really like the HTC hardware, but haven't used sense in forever. Conundrum. Hopefully the Evo will get AOSP/CM/AOKP right quick.
Congrats on your new phone. I'll miss your posts of battery use screenshots lol
Enjoy your nexus. Thanks for what you've done here.
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My brother has the nexus and I really liked it. I hardly used any sense widgets and any sense apps. Just mainly downloaded them from the market. Sense 4.O could be good. I'm fine with what I got
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LTeVO
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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imheroldman said:
To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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Go check the other evolte threads where scottspa quoted toastch from the twrp thread in the onex forum. HTC has forked up the unlock so badly you cannot flash firmware once unlocked, USB connection is unavailable in recovery mode so you can't flash the boot partition, system partition meaning without and exploit to gain s-off access to the bootloader the htcdev unlock is essentially useless for flashing roms/radios, any kind of p*img.zip, onlyway to flash any kind of upgrades currently is thru an ruu. HTC locking their bootloaders and giving a halfassed unlock method as some kind of joke/tease is why I currently will not purchase another HTC device. I'm not giving my money to a company who claims to support developers by giving them a halfcocked useless tool to unlock what shouldn't be locked in the firstplace. Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader they just implemented a flash count that triggers anytime you flash an unsecured kernel, its easily reset using a USB jig or if you're on ics an app called triangle away by chainfire. Rooting is as simple as running a prerooted firmware thru Odin/heimdall and Samsung is now releasing source prior to the ota and are dropping updates as quickly as they are stable. After I had a Samsung intercept as my first android device Samsung left a bad taste in my mouth and I went to the HTC evo, as if had several HTC winmo phones and liked them. Then I was given an ET4G sprints version of the sgs2 and realized how much of an improvement Samsung has made in the 2 years since I had my intercept. Now HTC goes and forks around with the monkey business of locking the bootloader then giving an unlock method thats about as useful as a broken key to your front door, so now you gotta spend alot of time and effort attempting to break in your own Backdoor with out damaging anything
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