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[DISCUSSION] Desire Z development..who will be in??

I think i'm not the only one that hates senseUI so my following questions are:
1. what developers would put the effort to max this phone to it's best?
2. Will we have cyanogen?
3. will we have screen calibration?(i really god used with true color rather than "blue pushed" colors).
Please if any developer would love to put a bit of comfort to our hearts please post here that you would do the best for this phone
So looking forward for it!
Edit: posible to swich roms from G2 to z and other way? that would be nice,theoretically it's very posible same hardware!

looks like the G2 will have stock froyo(not sure) but i really hope we can cyanogen mod on this thing! still don't think desire z is going to replace n1 on the priority list.

mtl171 said:
looks like the G2 will have stock froyo(not sure) but i really hope we can cyanogen mod on this thing! still don't think desire z is going to replace n1 on the priority list.
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You are quite right,but alao g2 might take the place of n1,and g2=desire z,it'q all a matter of rooting i think.
Damn i will really miss the led flash from n1) really really usefull for me.

LED flash? G2 also has a flash with its camera, if thats what you mean..
Also, to your 3rd point, if you're talking about the blue tinge issues and such, these screens won't have those issues as they're not AMOLED's, but SLCD's.

Aaaa sry i mean trackball led flash.
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norocel said:
g2 might take the place of n1,and g2=desire z,it'q all a matter of rooting i think.
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but no led track ball though still wonder if it'll steal the crown from the n1. afterall desire z isn't a "google experience" phone.
Superfrag said:
these screens won't have those issues as they're not AMOLED's, but SLCD's.
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dang. i was hoping for super amoled display. well atleast with slcd we won't be getting anymore burnin. hopefully.

Unfortunately for now, Only Samsung has the rights to use S-AMOLED. Its their tech anyways. But I believe from next year fall onwards they will start selling S-AMOLED screens to other manufacturer's.

For me S-amoled is not that interesting anymore,really curios about this S-lcd and it's multitouch capabiliti really hope is better than n1 or desire.
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Cyanogen tweeted earlier this month saying that he's getting a G2, so I think it's safe to say that the G2/Desire Z will have lots of developer/hacker support. Honestly, that's part of the reason I'm so excited about the G2. I'll likely be keeping it for the full 2 year contract, so having a phone that's so supported by XDA is a huge advantage.

ryaninc said:
Cyanogen tweeted earlier this month saying that he's getting a G2, so I think it's safe to say that the G2/Desire Z will have lots of developer/hacker support. Honestly, that's part of the reason I'm so excited about the G2. I'll likely be keeping it for the full 2 year contract, so having a phone that's so supported by XDA is a huge advantage.
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You are perfectly right,xda really makes the touch on android,without it would be boring.I live in europe still not decided if i should take the Z or just buy the g2,really don't know if there would be a diffrence within them.Hope we can get them soon:x
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I will help if you want if i get this phone that is

I might be available for some playing, already ordered my Z

norocel said:
You are perfectly right,xda really makes the touch on android,without it would be boring.I live in europe still not decided if i should take the Z or just buy the g2,really don't know if there would be a diffrence within them.Hope we can get them soon:x
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Where are you in Europe? I know our European phones don't work over in the states on their 3G networks and pretty sure their phones don't work on ours....except for the Nexus one.

Id love to dev for it, just need a device. Just bought 2 new phones so I'm kinda broke
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norocel said:
You are perfectly right,xda really makes the touch on android,without it would be boring.I live in europe still not decided if i should take the Z or just buy the g2,really don't know if there would be a diffrence within them.Hope we can get them soon:x
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Totally agreed, I stuck with the G1 till now which definetly would not have been possible without everyone at XDA. You think that maybe Cyanogen might make a Non-Sense version and a Sense version of the ROM?

AndroidHAX said:
You think that maybe Cyanogen might make a Non-Sense version and a Sense version of the ROM?
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CM does not produce Sense ROMs.

daewond3r said:
CM does not produce Sense ROMs.
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dam, i was hoping for a miracle, oh well... thx

I've been done something useful on Motorola Milestone and I've ever been in HTC WiMo devices modding etc.
Selling Milestone, HTC Desire Z already ordered and waiting for its arrival. I'm in.
First of all, we have to see if it's unlocked, then we can play with the system: putting Sense on CyanogenMod maybe is possible, we'll see. I'll do better than I can.
-kholk.

I'm a little curious which one would work on at&t 3g. I prefer no sense and think cyanogen will support that before sense.
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@jakeneal22:
From what I know, Cyanogen doesn't make Sense ROMs, they're only modded AOSPs..
Anyway, this waiting is killin' me....

[Q] HTC Droid Incredible 2.3 ROM - Why not Fascinate??

HTC Droid Incredible this phone has 2.3 ROM
DROID Incredible Owners Receive One of the First Really Polished Gingerbread ROMs
This is a Verizon Phone correct? If so how can there be a 2.3 ROM for this phone so fast?
http://www.droid-life.com/
Good news for Droid Incredible owners, you may have the first-almost-fully functional Gingerbread ROM thanks to r2DoesInc over at XDA Forums. As of late last night, the newest build fixed almost everything that would cause you to not use it except for video recording and a working GPS. Other than that though, the browser now works fine, the camera snaps shots, and things like multi-touch have all been polished up.
Is someone working on a Fascinate Gingerbread ROM??

Man these threads make my head hurt...

onemotodroid said:
HTC Droid Incredible this phone has 2.3 ROM
DROID Incredible Owners Receive One of the First Really Polished Gingerbread ROMs
This is a Verizon Phone correct? If so how can there be a 2.3 ROM for this phone so fast?
http://www.droid-life.com/
Good news for Droid Incredible owners, you may have the first-almost-fully functional Gingerbread ROM thanks to r2DoesInc over at XDA Forums. As of late last night, the newest build fixed almost everything that would cause you to not use it except for video recording and a working GPS. Other than that though, the browser now works fine, the camera snaps shots, and things like multi-touch have all been polished up.
Is someone working on a Fascinate Gingerbread ROM??
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Another useless thread .... let's see. Maybe because Inc. devs have the correct code to work with (i.e RIL). Others have pointed this out in countless other 'Where's Froyo' threads. Be patient. You hold in your hand a much better phone than the Incredible, regardless of what software it's running.
Swyped from my Stupidfast Fascinate

One day hopefully we will get 2.3, but the incredible having 2.3 doesn't really affect us. I had 2.2 on my eris for the past 3 months at least and the fascinate doesn't have it. Even without having froyo, I still like the fascinate 10x more than I ever liked my eris. When the update does come it will just make it even better.

When the update do come, we all probably already left the fascinate and unto the incredible hd. Sad but it' the truth. Too many disapointments and lack of urgency from samsung.
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1st and LAST Samsung product I'll ever own.
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adrynalyne said:
Man these threads make my head hurt...
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Oh, I know what you mean. No wonder the devs stopped coming here so much. The questions been answered. There's a search function for a reason-use it.

Actually I find the search function to be a little clunky. I always use it anyway, but often google works fastest. It is amazing how quickly this forum gets indexed.
However, the most obvious is the list of posts that come up when you try to start a topic. At minimum, one should look into those. There has been an excess of overlap this month.

MADDAN18 said:
1st and LAST Samsung product I'll ever own.
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I said the same thing with the Samsung Moment..I was Awed by the AMOLED display, but Samsung's record of device support is in the ****ter. Then I bought a Fascinate because of the camera and the SAMOLED display.
I use this phone for what it is..a phone. Everything else is extra, and this phone has the BEST camera for any cell phone on the market currently. I'll stick with Samsung for now

adrynalyne said:
Man these threads make my head hurt...
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Ditto... although it could be because of the copious amounts of alcohol I consumed last night.

Alright, enoughs enough... Lets get a moderator to make a thread stating WHY we do not have froyo/GB so we don't have to read the same thing over and over again... Its simple... we DO NOT have the RIL source code and the one they even gave us is botched at best (from what I have read). So simply make a thread with that name then simply put we will not have a working gb/froyo ROM until we get the RIL source code from sammy (or a verizon one leaks out at which point, we will make a new thread in the developement section). This is the only options we have. There are no workarounds. STOP posting random meaningless threads about your idea because it won't work. If still think it will please head over to the IRC and talk to a dev about it but expect to get charred from the flaming if it is something dumb.
PS: you can never expect people to use the Search Button.... its sad but its the truth

scriz said:
I said the same thing with the Samsung Moment..I was Awed by the AMOLED display, but Samsung's record of device support is in the ****ter. Then I bought a Fascinate because of the camera and the SAMOLED display.
I use this phone for what it is..a phone. Everything else is extra, and this phone has the BEST camera for any any cell phone on the market right now. I'll stick with Samsung for now
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This.
What is does right now, it does very, very well.

adrynalyne said:
This.
What is does right now, it does very, very well.
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Wow..re-reading what I wrote..I sound like a blooming retard.

Maybe, but what you wrote is truth. This phone is quite good at what it does as is; I hope they don't screw that up with an update. Given some of what I've read about Froyo on other sgs phones, I'd rather have what we have now.
The grass isn't always greener
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[Q] Is this phone worth upgrading from the HD7?

I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.

the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.

blunted09 said:
the atrix is the fastest phone you will use ONCE you install another launcher. This would definitely be an upgrade.
The people complaining, are generally irked by the bootloader being locked (which will hopefully be fixed soon) and therefore are harder on the phone.
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Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!

stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I returned the Atrix yesterday. I really liked it, very fast and an amazing battery, but I had issues with it. My main issue was voice quality. Every single person I spoke to had trouble hearing me. I also didn't like the camera, pictures didn't look good in my opinion. Also, had issues with gps not responding properly from time to time, but I think that was just an issue with my unit not all Atrix phones. Now I'm waiting a week or 2 to see if I get the Infuse 4G, that phone sounds sick!!

stratax said:
I have a HD7 and im getting alittle bored of it, and the screen size is alittle too big. There is someone locally who wants my phone and $75. Im not sure if its worth it or not. i know it is hardware wise, but i heard the atrix lags alot compared to others xD Thanks.
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I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.

sal2708 said:
I come from a HD2 with both android and WP7 installed.
i can honestly say that the Atrix is really good upgrade. the HD2 and HD7 are the samething just software wise is where the change happens. i would do it if i where you... i did actually.
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Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.

yes
it is an upgrade

stratax said:
Alright, thank you. This is what i will most likely be doing. then end up trying to trade the atrix for the sensation lol.
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Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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stratax said:
Yeah, thats what i heard. i actually kinda like motoblur (just cause looks) Id install sense on it asap though lol. i havent used android in a long time, since mytouch 4g was released and i just got annoyed of its problems. the new sense looks amazing though. my phone never lags "ever" because of how light wp7 is. just want something new thanks btw!
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just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.

cegna09 said:
just because no one else caught it, you can't install sense on this phone. Sense is HTC's version of motoBlur. Since this is a motorola phone, no sense. you can make it look like sense by installing launcherPro and skinning it, but that's about it.
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Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..

sal2708 said:
Correction to my statement. Get the infuse. I returned the Atrix. Realized its a bad phone. Infuse!
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The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?

If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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stratax said:
The infuse is a downgrade from the galaxy S 2. single core vs dual, and bigger screen which i dont want. why did you return your atrix?
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To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.

sal2708 said:
To much lag. Waking up from sleep. And really when it comes to a day to day use unless your going to be using the lapdock as your own personal computer every day dual core isnt really needed
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yeah but think about how much other moto devices lagged with motoblur 2.1/2.2. the droid x did horrible, and it has the new moto blur now and it runs amazing, im sure this will run amazing as well with update.

Exador said:
If you got bored with your hd7 then you'll get bored of the Atrix really fast. Poor developement due to locked botloader makes for a very boring device. We're also totaly at motos mercy for fixing broken features wbich they' ve do.e a terrible job of so far. I' d trade my Atrix for an hd2 in a second.
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really depends. i had the mytouch slide before it was unlocked and it was fine.. makes porting harder and stuff. broken features? like what?

blunted09 said:
dont listen to these two.
And so you know, if you check teh sgs2 forums there is a discussion of selling the sgs2 and buying the atrix. these guys have had both.
DO NOT LISTEN TO EXADOR.
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Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.

stratax said:
Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Yeah... deblur right off the bat. Don't hold your breath on miui tho
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i came from a HD7. i love my atrix >>>>>>>> the hd7

stratax said:
Im pretty sure someone could port it.. people have ported droid X rom to the Mytouch 4G lol. so why not other way around? eVil D probably could. I know they have their own skins, thats the point of porting though..
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stratax said:
Couldnt find the thread. I have only had my hands on one literally for about 4 seconds lol, and i really liked the feel in my hands and i loved the display. i like the small fonts and stuff.. motoblur looks good as well, just laggy. cant wait till someone ports miui to this phones well hopefully.
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Lets go over this once. Sense, MotoBlur, TouchWiz, they are not just skins. They are woven into the android build by the respective manufacturers. To port to this phone you would need the ability to flash custom roms, which you can't do on the atrix. Yes there are a few like gingerblur, but those really aren't custom, just tweaked and skinned. Until motorola unlocks the bootloader (don't hold your breath that the devs will ever figure it out), there is no hope. This is why you probably won't see MIUI either.
getting past that, has there ever been a sense port for a non-htc phone? No HTC phone has had the same hardware as the atrix, so i'm betting it's hard to impossible.
not trying to be an ass, just making sure you understand. This is an awesome phone, just don't come in expecting all the openness of old HTC phones.

[Q] Thinking about getting an EPIC, can people help with a bit info on it?

I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.

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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.
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Thanks. I know both are coming, the ED3 probably much sooner...I don't think I'll spend $200 on one of those phones though...but I am hoping the regular EVO can be free somewhere soon

Darkshneider said:
1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.
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Thanks for the answer, but wow, Hero has more development than the Epic? I wouldn't have expected that. I was going to get the Epic from BB yesterday, but the one I went to sold out and the next one only had two and I ran out of time, so I either get it from Amazon or wait for another sale

The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Boss86 said:
The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
Also, Hero has more development since it was one of the first Android phones for Sprint, it was one of the nicest ones for its time and it was an HTC phone. Samsung tends to keep away developers. After the Evo came out, a few devs jumped ship to that but there were too many devs to let the phone die. Hell, look at Deca, I was so happy when he said he got an Epic knowing all the stuff he did for the Hero, I still cant wait what he can do for the Epic.

Darkshneider said:
Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
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It doesn't lol.
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zanderman112 said:
It doesn't lol.
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Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)

Darkshneider said:
Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)
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Oh, sorry
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SDRebel said:
Thanks in advance
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I have had my epic since jan maybe before but it seems like forever the phone stock is great I had no issues with any of the stock apps and functions. Now that I'm rooted and on syndicate frozen 1.1.1 its like having a brand new phone again. my opinion is get it you can't go wrong with it the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it. Hope this helps.
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You wont find a better phone on the Sprint network for the same price for at least another 6-9 months (Free).

bmx_boi32 said:
the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it.
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The keyboard was a big factor for me in choosing the Epic over the Evo. I still think I made the right choice, but I *never* use the keyboard. It's just too easy to type with swype. Whenever I ultimately decide to upgrade, it will be to a phone with no keyboard.

I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Boss86 said:
I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Lol its ok. The Nexus S has the same 1Ghz Hummingbird we do.
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I just got a new epic for free at best buy and gave my gf my old epic to replace her ****ty moment. For free the phone kicks all the "budget androids" asses. Order while you can for free at amazon.
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epic is the stuff
i love my epic..... had a semi brick the other day had me worried but odin did the trick even had a screen that ppl well versed in the epic language have never seen but with some persistance i got her back up and running

If you root it, its a good phone.
GPS Aids is a must, GPS is golden now.
4G only works outside...
The Viper Rom is the best, just use Root Uninstaller to delete the teams bloatware.
Dont overclock (only fun for benches), its not worth the battery lose/glitches.. Just use setcpu to change the governor to Performance.. Alot of games play good with Performance gov. and clocks set to as low as 400 mhz.
Only complaint: No gyro. Dont give me any lines about this! I wanna play Nova with a gyro not a touch screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.

the keyboard is great for using Terminal Em. or punching in passwords. But ya it might not be worth the bulk..

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I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.
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I must be confused about what you mean by Gyro
I play quite a few games that operate via tilting the phone only, rather than the touch screen

Buying an EVO--Seeking Advice

Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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Art2Fly said:
Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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If its running android 2.3.3 and when you load into the bootloader it says "s-on" next to the radio version then its not rootable yet.

Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?

Art2Fly said:
Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?
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The general consensus is that they will not be unlocking older phones so as to encourage consumers to buy the newer ones.
EDIT: There is always of course the possibility that an independent developer will find an exploit and give us the ability to gain root access to our phones. Some devs are known to be working on this now. There's no guarantee of course, but there is hope for those of us who were feeling hopeless.

OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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My wife is using Mikg, and her evo runs awesome. Can't wait to root mine...
Sent from my unrooted OG Evo....

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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I really liked Deck's ROM; lightweight, few issues; great battery life when combined with Tiamat 3.3.7. It's basically CM7 with a lot of the extra clutter (language packs, etc) removed. It looks and acts almost exactly like Android on the Nexus S.
That was my daily driver. I also really liked playing with Synergy; it's feature-packed and has a lot of bells and whistles, and is a fun toy. I didn't like it for daily use, though. I am really into the KISS philosophy when it comes to my smartphone.

And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?

Art2Fly said:
And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?
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Do alot of reading in the development thread. There is plenty to learn about.
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Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?

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Art2Fly said:
Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?
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Well that's a question that is dependent on a few things:
Do you prefer physical or virtual keyboards?
Is the loss of a nicer screen worth a bigger screen?
The Epic could be a great phone if it had the developer support that the Evo had/has.
They don't even have an AOSP ROM.

YES, trade, then load synergy rls1, then freedom kernel, for root use unrevoked,
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Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy

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Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy
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My personal opinion is that developer support is what makes the phone.
The Epic has a better core for performance and for battery.
If I recall correctly the GPU is better too.
The screen is nicer.
The keyboard sucks [because I hate physical keyboards]
But the developer support, comparative to the Evo, is nil.
Now, there have been signs of an increase in support but with the SGS2 coming it's hard to say how much will come to the Epic itself.

I actually just came from an epic to the evo since mine was stolen (which really sucked I loved that phone) but with the evo I've never looked back. I really liked the physical keyboard since I'm not a fan of soft keyboards but swype and mods alongside a much larger screen make up for it. Speaking of the screen, its no super amoled but its definitely one of the nicest I've used and and the phone overall is just beautiful. Battery is about the same for both in my experience. But like others have said the evo has MUCH better developer support. I remember I was using frozen syndicate Rom 1.2 before my epic was stolen ( back in end of may/ beginning of June) and they still didn't update I believe. Plus Samsung still hasn't released gingerbread for it and its being discontinued October I think. So all in all you should trade for the evo, definitely much better software support especially for a phone reaching its EOL, not to mention hardware (i.e. cases) Plus sense is just great
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Ive had both phones, I had the epic then i traded it for my evo<3 which i love so much. I dont regret trading it at all. Personally, i like the evo more it is greater over all