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So Gingerbread (2.3) is here and I wanted to be the first nagging user to ask when we are going to see the port for the Aria?
No asking for ETAs...IOW, whenever they damn well please.
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Gingerbread may be out but the source isn't so no gingerbread for you.
Good things come to those who wait just like grandma's inheritance, uh, I mean cookies.
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Good news most def.
I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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jbizz said:
I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
Don't know if you guys saw this or not( http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-news-gingerbread-2-3-running-on-droid-eris/ ), but punk.kaos got Gingerbread kinda working on the Eris. In terms of power the Eris is sort of a bottom feeder so if it can run on the Eris it definitely can run on the Aria. But we will have to be patient, unless someone knows how to port the source to the Aria. I am loving 6.1 right now, so I can wait for Gingerbread at the moment.
A guy got a hacked port to boot on his HTC Wildfire which is slower than the aria. No this does not mean a port will come to the aria yet.
ls377 said:
This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
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It was also assumed by many that Android 3.0 would be Gingerbread. Instead, Gingerbread is 2.3.
With 3.0, there are rumors of higher end graphics and processor requirements.
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Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
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True. It looks like Liberty/Slide/Legend will be included when CM goes to Android 2.3.
I am not sure about 3.0 though, if it's going to be targeted exclusively at larger, more powerful, higher resolution devices. Time will tell how successfully that stuff will be supported on MDPI devices it's not intended for with 1 1/2 gen processors, even with decent GPUs.
Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
attn1 said:
Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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you haven't disappointed us thus far attn1!
keep up the good work
Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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Plasmamuffins said:
Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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That's good news! No one knew until now!
Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
chambo622 said:
Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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I know I'm not going to hold my breath for an official release. Based on what I've been reading on several forums, there have been rumblings that the Aria might not see an official 2.2 (Which quite frankly I had already given up hope on).
Who knows though, perhaps AT&T and HTC decided that since it's deployment on 2.2 was so late, that they would wait until 2.3... or 2.4... 5, or 6.
Either way, thanks for everything devs, CM and Liberated are both great Froyo ROMs, and I've used both without a hitch.
I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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Google has already pledged that Nexus One will get Gingerbread, so no issue there.
HTC said back in the beginning of the year that any device launched in 2010 will get upgraded to Froyo, so that includes the AT&T Aria, so we'll definitely get official Froyo for that.
Whether the AT&T Aria will get Gingerbread officially is up in the air, but I'm all but certain that the Gratia will, given that it just launched with 2.2.
I know you cannot trust Samfirmware....but...they do have links to leakers and info leakers. They are right probably 50% of the time.
Here is the latest from them:
''Samsung P1000 Galaxy Tab gets Android 2.3 next month. '' (We think March one month later.)
So...march or april.
I was hoping the SGT would get 3.0 and SGS would get 2.3, but it looks like SGT might bet 2.3 before SGS and 3.0 would be for SGT2.
According tovthe gsmarena.com blog it seems that itbwill have 3.0 as well.
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It'd be so sad if the Galaxy Tab gets 2.3 before the Galaxy S. But, I suppose I'll take Gingerbread on at least ONE of my devices.
I really don't see the big fuss about gingerbread can someone elaborate please
Well the GTab had 2.2 before my SGS Vibrant so I have not problem with that but since I don't seem to be able to connect my GTab to Kies I wonder how that's going to work?
Clarification - My device is not supported by the version of Kies I have (2.whatever the latest is)
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I really don't see the big fuss about gingerbread can someone elaborate please
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Exactly. Maybe some software changes. But from what I have seen, I am not at all impressed with gingerbread. Maybe someone can point out specifics as to what will make gingerbread better than 2.2
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Exactly. Maybe some software changes. But from what I have seen, I am not at all impressed with gingerbread. Maybe someone can point out specifics as to what will make gingerbread better than 2.2
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For me integrated SIP is a big deal
Hopefully 2.3 come together for my both SGT and SGS devices.
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For me integrated SIP is a big deal
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Exactly my point! If SIP integration is done at least the same level as in my Nokia N95 then it's the feature I am waiting for ...
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dubie76 said:
Exactly. Maybe some software changes. But from what I have seen, I am not at all impressed with gingerbread. Maybe someone can point out specifics as to what will make gingerbread better than 2.2
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A lot. It's been optimized for battery life, and performance. Plus the JIT compiler has been optimized for the Hummingbird the Galaxy devices use, whereas in FroYo it's just for the Snapdragon.
maxtcee said:
I really don't see the big fuss about gingerbread can someone elaborate please
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Have a read of this, it should make it clearer.
What is tho point in goving us gingerbread? Surley it would make more sense to give us.honeycomb
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A lot. It's been optimized for battery life, and performance. Plus the JIT compiler has been optimized for the Hummingbird the Galaxy devices use, whereas in FroYo it's just for the Snapdragon.
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That last point (JIT optimization for Hummingbird) is the big one for me. It should mean a significant performance boost to the Galaxy Tab.
Main benefits I've found (running nexus one) is performance is a bit better. I also prefer the fonts and dark UI, though that's always skin-able I guess. Been running Gingerbread (CM7 branch) on the Tab occasionally and the performance increases there too. Personally I was hoping that Samsung would just jump straight to Honeycomb for the Galaxy Tab. Makes a lot more sense. Would also be a big boost in sales I'd have thought, though no doubt they've also got a Tab 2 waiting in the wings with that OS.
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That last point (JIT optimization for Hummingbird) is the big one for me. It should mean a significant performance boost to the Galaxy Tab.
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I've yet to use it on my Galaxy S, and I don't have the Tab yet, but I'm excited for when I get to use it as a daily driver. My phone's fast, but it could be faster!
A few more reasons:
- A concurrent garbage collector that doesn't completely block the UI thread while running so no more stuttering
- Better power management (better battery life!)
- Updated video drivers
- Faster event distribution (better input for games)
- Mixable audio effects (good for music creation, games)
- Upgraded kernel
- HTTP responses are gzipped by default (save on data usage)
- Faster number formatting
- Improved Network and File APIs
- SMS bug fix (in 2.3.2 and later)
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- HTTP responses are gzipped by default (save on data usage)
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Unfortunately that one is controlled by the server you're visiting who is sending you the response to your request. So the browser can tell the server that it's willing to accept gzipped content, but unless the server is willing to actually gzip it, or unless it's already gzipped, you can't say that they are gzipped by default. If that had said: "HTTP requests accept gzip responses by default" then I wouldn't take issue.
The rest of it though while exciting as far as updates go should be included with Honeycomb, and with that running on the Nook Color, I don't think it's outrageous to expect the Tab should get Honeycomb instead of Gingerbread. After looking at the Honeycomb announcement from Google though, I'm not sure a lot of the interface changes are an improvement. I'm not sure we need a status bar at the bottom taking up space.
Is there an ETA for 2.3? Reading what you guys wrote makes me look forward to it.
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What is tho point in goving us gingerbread? Surley it would make more sense to give us.honeycomb
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i agree, with honeycomb almost here why would they waste time with such an incremental update?
For the phone part, maybe? I am one of those whose traded in phone (a n1, too) for gtab, and that is working well for me. Don't know what to believe, but if honeycomb is for tablets, then would there be 'stuff' in it to support gsm voice?
If not and a gtabable version of gingerbread (with voice) is available, I'd love to have it.
Another thing to ponder, the leading edge, latest and greatest android rev from Google, will probably always hit the flagship device for that rev first to(sorta obvious statement)! it will be sometime before it will make other devices; even the older flagships. Look at gingerbread now -- available for nexus s; but still in the 'next few weeks' state for n1. And I'd think manufactures, HTC, sammy, Motorola etc are tepid about porting new android revs to old hardware - it kinda takes away sexiness of their latest hardware that does run latest android.. . What i am saying? I think it is gonna be sometime before we see a new significant rev upgrade from sammy. I hope i am wrong.
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/224231/Google-Says-Honeycomb-Will-Not-Come-To-Smartphones
This would really, really suck if we did not have the awesome dev team we do! How much u wanna bet Honeycomb will be running on the HD2 before the end of summer this year?
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http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/224231/Google-Says-Honeycomb-Will-Not-Come-To-Smartphones
This would really, really suck if we did not have the awesome dev team we do! How much u wanna bet Honeycomb will be running on the HD2 before the end of summer this year?
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Honeycomb is for tablets... at least at first. We'll be getting Ice Cream Cone, which is 2.4, by the end of summer, which is actually released after honeycomb as is made for phones, so it will probably have more and better functionality for us than honeycomb would.
If we can only just port the UI graphics acceleration part from Honeycomb, that would make any custom rom based on it very slick and smooth and might also saves more battery power by sparing the cpu from certain tasks.
After the release wait some days/weeks and you will see the first port from our nice devs
It was my understanding Gingerbread already offloaded the UI.
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Tigerlight said:
It was my understanding Gingerbread already offloaded the UI.
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Some of it, but not as much as honeycomb.
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Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?
It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.
You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs
I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...
I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
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I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.
Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.
Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.
dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.
Android 4.0 source being released now! Can't wait for some roms!
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/1...same-android-4-0-1-build-as-the-galaxy-nexus/
WOOP WOOP. cm9 here we go!!!
Just beat me to it
So excited!
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/new...idandme+(Android+and+Me)&utm_content=FaceBook
cant wait, ahihihi
It's up now.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/40cbd4ea69e035d5
That's just GREAT!
I cannot wait to see ICS on my sexy N!
So why CM9 and not CM8?
Swyped from my Nexus One
SiNJiN76 said:
So why CM9 and not CM8?
Swyped from my Nexus One
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Because there never was a CM for honeycomb, so to simplify things they skipped CM8 as they skipped Honeycomb.
Ahhh...completely forgot about Honeycomb. Thanks!
Swyped from my Nexus One
How amazing and refreshing is this:
The branches that you care about:
-android-4.0.1_r1 is the release branch, ITL41D, that is expected to
ship on Galaxy Nexus. That's the one you want to be using to port to
devices.
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I know a lot of you are exciting about CM, but will there also be a vanilla Google ROM of ICS for the N1?
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I know a lot of you are exciting about CM, but will there also be a vanilla Google ROM of ICS for the N1?
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Not from Google themselves. They've stopped support for the N1 so best bet will have to be somebody here making a ROM for the N1.
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I know a lot of you are exciting about CM, but will there also be a vanilla Google ROM of ICS for the N1?
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As someone who stays as far away from CM, I am hoping for a very very vanilla AOSP 4.0 for N1. I almost wish that google would built it but just not OTA it, and let developers figure out the space issue..
There is no need to worry about small system partition size.
BlackRose is the answer.
We'll get ICS
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There is no need to worry about small system partition size.
BlackRose is the answer.
We'll get ICS
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I wonder where the drivers could be obtained
I guess GB drivers does not work on ICS
It's going to be a little more complicated to bring to devices because the device is now considered "obsolete" like the G1 and the Ion. Hopefully someone other than Cyanogen can make us a good AOSP rom.
Nexus S, a.k.a. "crespo", and Nexus S 4G, a.k.a. "crespo4g", are supported with gingerbread, but can't currently be used with newer versions of the Android Open-Source Project.
Nexus One a.k.a. "passion" is obsolete, was experimental in gingerbread and unsupported, and can't be used with newer versions of the Android Open-Source Project.
Android Developer Phones (ADP1 and ADP2, a.k.a. "dream" and "sapphire") are obsolete, were experimental and unsupported in froyo, and can't be used with newer versions of the Android Open-Source Project.
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DownloaderZ said:
As someone who stays as far away from CM, I am hoping for a very very vanilla AOSP 4.0 for N1. I almost wish that google would built it but just not OTA it, and let developers figure out the space issue..
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Why do you stay far away from CM?
Some people just want no customizations even as little as they might be.
But if CM manages to get a rom working on the N1 someone can take that as a base to build a vanilla rom.
So I'm pretty sure this will come!
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Why do you stay far away from CM?
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Well although I am running CM7.1 right now I really can see the reason for this. I ran an unrooted version of Vanilla GB since about February and only decided to adjust recently to get ready for ICS after it was announced we wouldn't officially get it. I know Vanilla has less features but it somehow just feels of a higher quality at times. Bit of a less is more type of thing.
Has everybody seen the Cyanogen Twitter feed? Two months for stable builds of CM9 and work on CM7 7.1.2 continues in the meantime.
(Nothing specific mentioned about the N1 though)