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g1 + cyanogenmod over with

Is it possible that the cyanogen era on g1 is over he has been great to us but looks like its time to move on. Thank him for his time and work but would appreciate if we could get some devs to keep doing amazing things to the g1 which isn't out dated or hasn't reached it full capacity. Thanks to all devs eugene manup cyanogen jac n many more but please keep making us proud. Thanks again

Wait, proud?

tlisak25 said:
Is it possible that the cyanogen era on g1 is over he has been great to us but looks like its time to move on. Thank him for his time and work but would appreciate if we could get some devs to keep doing amazing things to the g1 which isn't out dated or hasn't reached it full capacity. Thanks to all devs eugene manup cyanogen jac n many more but please keep making us proud. Thanks again
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this is not development.
it amazes me how thick people can be.

Nicely done. 3 posts and one of them is both retarded and in the wrong section.
You'll do well here.

tlisak25 said:
Is it possible that the cyanogen era on g1 is over he has been great to us but looks like its time to move on. Thank him for his time and work but would appreciate if we could get some devs to keep doing amazing things to the g1 which isn't out dated or hasn't reached it full capacity. Thanks to all devs eugene manup cyanogen jac n many more but please keep making us proud. Thanks again
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You sure are something else
Oh and G1 era is over time to move on to better things
Its at its max already the SPL is pushing it to its bare limits.Devs are moving on up!
Max will do acer, eugene droid,cyan has a nexus i think.Not sure what other devs will do though..

What makes this funnier is that Cyan already said he'll continue
And good job everyone, you've successfully portrayed sarcasm over the internet

JAguirre1231 said:
And good job everyone, you've successfully portrayed sarcasm over the internet
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Actually, I thought I was rather blunt with my comment...

grandomegabosses said:
Actually, I thought I was rather blunt with my comment...
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You were, now let's all take a moment for the posts that are about to be laid to rest in the "deleted posts" graveyard...

think what u want
I was giving credit where its due I was just curious to see if other devs will continue or is it time to move on thanks for all off the internet tuff guys that always talk nonsence

tlisak25 said:
I was giving credit where its due I was just curious to see if other devs will continue or is it time to move on thanks for all off the internet tuff guys that always talk nonsence
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Your welcome

tlisak25 said:
I was giving credit where its due I was just curious to see if other devs will continue or is it time to move on thanks for all off the internet tuff guys that always talk nonsence
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if you're going to give credit where it's due, try maybe donating to them. the development section is for development. which this is not.

tlisak25 said:
Is it possible that the cyanogen era on g1 is over he has been great to us but looks like its time to move on. Thank him for his time and work but would appreciate if we could get some devs to keep doing amazing things to the g1 which isn't out dated or hasn't reached it full capacity. Thanks to all devs eugene manup cyanogen jac n many more but please keep making us proud. Thanks again
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No offence but people like you are nasty. Its like robbing a homless guy. Cyanogen takes time out of his day to bring you the latest and greatest ROMs and trys his best everytime, and the work shows off! This is the 2nd time I've seen a member trash a Dev, and not just any Dev, but Cyanogen! Cyanogen's ROMs are top notch work. Barley any FC's and all of those are from the 3rd Part Applications. I don't know what's gotten into you people, but you should learn to respect others, and yourselves. You need to learn some manners. I'll write you a book, "Respecting Others for Dumbies"... I can already see the cover. I know that the time will come when Cyanogen releases a ROM that makes a drought in the Android world, AND GOOGLE cry! And I believe that then and there you should apologize and mail Cyanogen a letter on how bad you feel about trashing him. THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME WANT TO SELL MY G1, AND BUY A HTC TOUCH HD2... PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Have a nice evening.

tlisak25 said:
I was giving credit where its due I was just curious to see if other devs will continue or is it time to move on thanks for all off the internet tuff guys that always talk nonsence
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As you can see cyan is still making the things, manup is here,taylor,King(?)MLIGN(?),Clay(?),Enom~,Jac!

G1BRICKED said:
No offence but people like you are nasty. Its like robbing a homless guy. Cyanogen takes time out of his day to bring you the latest and greatest ROMs and trys his best everytime, and the work shows off! This is the 2nd time I've seen a member trash a Dev, and not just any Dev, but Cyanogen! Cyanogen's ROMs are top notch work. Barley any FC's and all of those are from the 3rd Part Applications. I don't know what's gotten into you people, but you should learn to respect others, and yourselves. You need to learn some manners. I'll write you a book, "Respecting Others for Dumbies"... I can already see the cover. I know that the time will come when Cyanogen releases a ROM that makes a drought in the Android world, AND GOOGLE cry! And I believe that then and there you should apologize and mail Cyanogen a letter on how bad you feel about trashing him. THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME WANT TO SELL MY G1, AND BUY A HTC TOUCH HD2... PEOPLE LIKE YOU! Have a nice day.
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Not much day left here, but I'll try, thank you

I never said day you editided my post boii!

i'd like to take my second post on this board to say three things:
first and foremost....lol
secondly. please read this board in and out for months before posting. otherwise you come off as annoying and rude.
lastly. all devs deserve the best encouragement and gratitude for what they do for us...for FREE (though technically you should be donating)

i'd like to take my second post on this board to say three things:
first and foremost....lol
secondly. please read this board in and out for months before posting. otherwise you come off as annoying and rude.
lastly. all devs deserve the best encouragement and gratitude for what they do for us...for FREE (though technically you should be donating)

G1BRICKED said:
I never said day you editided my post boii!
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At the end you say Have a nice day... boiii!!!!

I dont see why people are obsessed with having the latest version/firmware...For example..Some were mad about not having 2.0 or 1.6 hero which is dumb...Or they want MT on dialer and MT chargers and MT screens and MT people and MT MT..MT this MT that MT'd you in the eye
Gotta remember its just a phone...Another piece of hardware...The G1 is 1yr couple months ol and thats pretty new still considering what its capable of.

cullenm said:
i'd like to take my second post on this board to say three things:
first and foremost....lol
secondly. please read this board in and out for months before posting. otherwise you come off as annoying and rude.
lastly. all devs deserve the best encouragement and gratitude for what they do for us...for FREE (though technically you should be donating)
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at least someone's got his priorities straight.
i lurked here for at least 5 months before putting my say in anything.

i just don't get it?

you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?

fixxxer2008 said:
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.

I don't get what you are trying to say....
@ubuntu, the TP2 has a physical keyboard so ubuntu would be much more practical then on the hero.
@android port for TP2, ummmmm who cares about the TP2? I used dzo's android port for a long time and I greatly respect everything that they have accomplished. It truly is amazing.

I agree.
fixxxer2008 said:
you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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The sole reason I didn't get the TP2 was the fact it was running WinMo.
WinMo has to be the worst phone UI ever, why the heck would anyone want to use a stylus to navigate the UI. Nevermind the fact I've never heard one positive review of Windows Mobile as far as speed was concerned.
-Mike

if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.
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I only read it 7 times.

sorry i was sick as hell yesterday and still am. thanks mr grammar nazi's!
my point was having a port of ubuntu is stupid IMO, id rather have a fully working android port that could be flashed to nand like the vogue users have. got it now?

I dunno if I had a TP2 and then upgraded to something else but still had my old TP2 laying around. I would most likely put something like ubuntu on it for ****s and giggles.

fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop

nebenezer said:
fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop
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what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.

Actually, man, if you leave out the first and last paragraphs and just read his list, he answered your question perfectly. The fact that you don't get it says s lot. This is, at its base, a community of hackers (or hacker wannabes, like me). Half the reason we do ANYTHING with our phones is because we can. Just for the sheer unadulterated HELL OF IT! Kinda like choosing to do themes the hard way yourself, rather than using metamorph. The fact that some of what we do makes our phones more functional is sometimes almost secondary to the feeling of having got your hands dirty and done something yourself. It is the same thing that drives people to DIY rather than just buying the finished product at the store...even when you might have saved a buck and some time just dropping the cash.

fixxxer2008 said:
what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.
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"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS

jerry43812 said:
"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS
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Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.

sandboxlove said:
i know its lame, but dont people still follow if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything atall? i lurked for 2 months before i joined because i was scared people would be rude to me for asking questions/expressing opinions. xda doesnt have a bad name, only the cdma hero section. every other portal, every other FORUM, people never act like some of the people here. i think most of the people here are teenagers or lonely old men, which would explain alot.
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I'm beginning to think that too.

alright guys lets ton it down, i don't need all of my threads locked because neb is on the rag today. lets just forget it. i swear sometimes this site lives up to it's bad name.

smoother2010 said:
Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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settle down man, i don't need you defending me. thanks but your thoughts are not mine. yes neb misunderstood what i said but let it go.

In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?

tejasrichard said:
In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?
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im not dissing it per say but i think a full port of android would be better. i know they pretty much abandoned android for ubuntu and there was quite a few people upset.

smoother2010 said:
Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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Quit trolling this dude's threads? he dont mean a damn thing to me, and neither do you, but his actions as well as yours are uncalled for including trolling other peoples threads claiming the stuff they spend countless hours on is "useless"
join after I do but post more than I? who be the troll here, sweetie?
Have a good night.

I honestly don't know any of the background details of what was going on in the TP2 forum. This is what i was responding to:
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i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
get what im trying to say?
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Sometimes the purpose is the trip not the destination. That's how I feel about hacking our phones, anyway. 90% of the time, I don't really need to be able to access my desktop and take control of it through VNC, but the fact that I can makes me really happy. I don't need to be able to stream HD movies on my phone, but the fact that I will be able to with the evo has me excited. What color flashes on the screen when i tap an app doesn't really make a flying fvck in the long run, but I like the glassy blue, so I rip into every rom I download and change it. To me, that is the why that answers your initial question. To someone for whom the end functionality is the ultimate goal, the this may not make any sense, but to someone else who enjoys the process of creation and tinkering, the opposite might be true. And in a community of devs and hackers, i think you are likely to find as many or more of the latter than the former.

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I just wanted to give a BIG thank you to all of our amazing developers. Without you guys, we would still be looking at stock HTC Sense and wondering when things would get better. If any of you guys have spare cash, buy as many of these guys as many beers as you can. They take a ton of time out of their daily lives to give us these amazing ROMS, and they don't ask for anything in return. That is the definition of selflessness, and we, the userbase, should continue to support their efforts. I know as soon as I get my raise I'm going to financially aid in their development.
Remember, Donate the the ROM chefs, unrEVOked, and the people that help resolve issues with coding.
Once again, Thanks guys, you fill up my day with fun.
Edit: if you feel like thanking someone personal, let em know here.

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I just donated to ihftp69 for his awesome SkyRaider 2.2.

Fretless said:
I just donated to ihftp69 for his awesome SkyRaider 2.2.
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I couldn't begin to thank everyone (not even just developers) that has given me the tools to improve my incredible individually.
SkyRaider, Smooth Sense Icons, Hide Location, Stock Lock and Desk Clock, Root!, patches, boot animations, the list just goes on and on!!
so a big thank you to the members of the forum for all you do!!!

I would like to thank the Academy, god, and myself...

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I would like to thank the Academy, god, and myself...
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Ditto, without the "Academy" and "God" parts... =p (this may seem annoyingly pompous now but you guys will be happy when my similar yet legally different multiplayer version of "Advanced Wars" is released for free for the DInc later this year... hell I need something to help me avoid actually paying attention in college) . Also while this is directed at developers, it isn't exactly developmental, so maybe it should go in the "General" section... I'm sure some devs still go in there *shifty eyes*.

Thank you!

DeeBG said:
Also while this is directed at developers, it isn't exactly developmental, so maybe it should go in the "General" section... I'm sure some devs still go in there *shifty eyes*.
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I wasn't so sure. Figured this would be where most devs see it.

Gonna leave this in dev just for the mere philanthropy of it.

The intention of the OP is in the right place, but this thread should be in General. It has nothing to do with Development.

GMK83 said:
The intention of the OP is in the right place, but this thread should be in General. It has nothing to do with Development.
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I know, I know....I'll move it tomorrow.

I'll remember next time to put it in the right forum. The only reason i put it here is because the devs come here. Apologies.

No problem. At least it's something that could benefit the devs. Bumping for it's last 18 hours here in development.

Public apology

i apologize to any and everyone whose work i have used without getting your permission first i truely truely am sorry. i will be taking everything down that i have posted on xda that has other's work without them giving me permission to use it. and even once i ask them and they deny permission i will be taking the uploads down after that as well. again i'm sorry
as for everyone's comments about my HUGE MISTAKE I'M SORRY ABOUT....
LiquidSolstice said:
I never gave anyone permission to do this. You didn't ask me, you told me after the fact. I was planning on letting guitardoc take over, but this is just unacceptable.
Please take this down.
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i did post a comment on your thread asking you to pm me but you never did and i got impatient and hyped up about things and i just rushed things and posted finished stable builds of your rom without your permission thinking things would be okay if i emphisized 3x on the thread i didn't do anything but finish your rom all credit goes to you for all other work. but again i went about things the wrong way i wasn't trying to take full credit for your rom i thought i made that clear in the first post but i guess saying it 3x still isn't the right way to go about things, glad to see we're working things out (btw everyone check out the title of his thread now ) for the better now bro! so i'd like to say this publicly, SORRY FOR USING YOUR ROM WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION LIQUID! (i wanted to say that on the forum so everyone saw lol ) do you accept my appology liquid? (impaler please ____ , you know what we talked about, after liquid post his reply)
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Uh-oh!
Sent from my Pedal to the Metal Hero
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I know i made a big uh oh!
LiquidSolstice said:
Let's get something straight here, because it seems you're all offended right now. You can stop fishing for pity or sympathy, because I have none for you.
"help" would have been PMing me what you tried to do, I could test it, and if it works, the links would get posted on the ORIGINAL thread with full credit to you. Hell, I would have put a goddamn donate button right next to links to you. That's how proper crediting goes. I credit with permission every single person who has tested or fixed something for me with the ROM, and that would not have been any different.
Instead, without telling me, you copied my thread, put up a modified version of my ROM, and told me only AFTER the fact that you did so.
You have some INSANE issues with understanding permission and crediting, and as I understand it, this isn't your first time. It doesn't matter if you put my name in 72 BOLD pt in this thread, you never asked me and you posted a whole damn new thread for it. That's just not ok.
If you really want to be "omg super-hero dev", you need to start earning your fellow dev's respect, and right now, that's not working out for you.
If you're still interested in being credited for this, PM me with the download links, I'll check them out, and if they are ok, I'll put it in my original 2.1.1 thread with full credit to you. That's how it works.
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i really want to earn my fellow dev's respect but i keep screwing up i'm sorry again bro. and i'm reading the forum rules about crediting as we speak right now.
laie1472 said:
LMAO I gotta post on this. Sup kifno man?? How can you post take down jasonmaloney and i's rom??? When in the op man you don't give him credit for anything. You state you have finished up ls's rom not jasonmaloney and you. And come on kifno you didn't even ask the man could you work on his rom??? Wow impressive.
Yea its me Again With the
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no i asked to take down jasonmaloney's build and my build (two seperate things) b/c we both posted our build's on liquid's thread without his permission.....which was a big no no....but i made things worse by making a seperate thread....again sorry liquid. so there was no need to credit jasonmaloney, laie i know i messed up big time smh stupid move on my part
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Not that it matters much, but his ROMs and jasonmaloney's are separate. jasonmaloney just put his in Liquid's original 2.1.1 thread here.
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exactly what i was saying about taking down our build's....
LiquidSolstice said:
At least jasonmaloney did not try to make a brand new thread about it. He would have asked me ahead of time, as a proper dev should.
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again i asked ahead of time on the thread but no reply but i did screw things up worse by making this thread again sorry....
il Duce said:
this is EXACTLY what I was talking about in the NFX rom that you put up as your own, you are officially a KANGAHOLIC, and people have been and should be banned for it. Every thread you posts seems to be less about development and more about popularity, you even say **** like "my rom" which you could only REALLY say if you built it from google source, which you obviously can't do. I sincerely hope liquid reported you to the Scotsman, and appropriate action is taken. you = sick. me = sickened.
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i said in my rom's thread that it was based of nfx rom and i gave him credit, i said what i did. i didn't do what i did with liquid's rom, two completely different things... il Duce ik i screwed up with this rom and again i won't be making any mess ups like this again (me = thinking before my actions from now on xda) sorry
LiquidSolstice said:
it's not even as though I would have minded him PMing me first or even do what Jasonmaloney did (posting it as a reply in the original thread )
My rom (I say that very loosely) is based on nfx, but only with full permission from nfinite and on popular request. Even further I credited (with permission ) anyone who helped in testing or debugging, and that is the proper thing to do.
I'm just disappointed. that's the worst of it.
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again my apologies are given to you, do you accept? i know i screwed up big time bro....smh big mistake here
33hfl said:
LS should be out of this and not to be so ofended or asking for any recognition about what someone did when he walked away from his own ROM.He sould thank this guy for finish what he started and never finished after a lot of promess and excuses
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no bro i screwed up...i can't even agree to anything you just said b/c all i wanted to do was help
il Duce said:
oh my god you cannot be serious. smh
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read what i said
33hfl said:
go kifno good work
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good work = yes did i mess up? = HELL YEAH!
FdxRider said:
FORUM RULES12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Seek permission <---- What part of that do you or kifno not understand?
Doesn't matterr if it's been dormant for long time still LS's work. Follow the forum rules.
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i am reading and MEMORIZING the forum rules as of now
dpeeps74 said:
Oh man, I'm team Jacob!
Wait, wrong drama
~run, run, as fast as you can, can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man~
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lol wow
33hfl said:
I dont know why LS is crying right now when he wallked away from his own ROM after a lot of excuses and promises.he turned his back on his own son.He should thank this man for the woderful job done.Or he forgot his post.Kifno never took credit for what he was doing,he always gave it to LS
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i did give credit to him 3x throughout the post and said all i did was finish it as he planned to but i went about it wrong....
FdxRider said:
LMAO u sew funneeeeee! NOT!
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ik that was funny right?
jasonmaloney said:
Again with the hostility.
Folks, there is a report post button on every single post on this site. You would all do better to use it than to fill up the development forum with unnecessary drama.
Yes, it wasn't very smart to use LiquidSolstice's work without his permission AND to start a new thread for it with a misleadingly similar title. But the bickering and harassment isn't any more accepted by the rules, nor is it productive in any constructive way. It doesn't really matter who was originally right or wrong; this forum is getting flooded with way too much verbal diarrhea. This is not the XDA mantra.
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again i apologize for doing what i did to even create this drama....this wouldn't have happened if i did things the correct way....sorry
someonenewhere said:
What's the big deal?
The man gave LS credit and he said it "I'm just finishing what LS COULDN'T FINISH"
LS, if you don't want people to finish your ROM. Maybe YOU SHOULD TRY FINISHING YOUR ROM..
You left your ROM out there as a bastard child and that bastard child found a father to take care of it.
WHY CRY ABOUT IT?
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no no i went about things wrong i take full responsiblity for my mistake...sorry liquid
LiquidSolstice said:
Excellent contribution. It must be nice, sitting there just using other people's work and never really taking the time to find out how it all comes together. I'm sure you must be spoiled and basically taking all these custom ROMs you get for granted as most people seem to these days. Just a quick look at any tech blog concerning Android, and you'll find comments such as "oh I'm not worried, XDA will figure it out". People freeload off this place so willingly, paying nothing in either donation or even respect/appreciation (which is all most devs are looking for)
In the meantime, we'll just go with this; my rom = my rom. Whether or not I want to finish it, or whether or not I want it to be finished, or in this case, wehther or not I want someone else to do it, that would be my choice. I put in the hours, I put in the time, you did nothing.
I left the ROM because no one seemed to give a damn about it, and I'm finding out increasingly that I was very wrong about that. If you looked at Chef Central on the Main XDA Forum page, you'll find a few threads by me asking for help with the last bit of cooking, which was the kernel. I didn't notice that Kifno figured it out, and only realized what I needed to fo when jasonmaloney PMed me. I said I had every intention of making it stable, and I was indeed working on it.
Which means that it is my task and my right to put up the final update to my own ROM, not have someone else do it without even letting me know beforehand or asking me, and then posting my exact thread over again instead of PMing me the link to add it in the OP, and then telling me after the fact.
Kifno has already got in touch with me and we're working it out, you guys can relax now.
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again we talked things out and i'm sorry bro. and yes i may just be improving others work (the espreeso 2.1 rom i posted) and changing things, i never took full credit actually most of it goes to nfx b/c everyday i wake up he has a pm in my inbox helping me out with the espresso 2.1 rom, it wouldn't be where it is at without his help. only thing i can take full credit for is my build.prop's thats the only thing i actually did from my own work as for the espresso 2.1 rom that was from the help of many other members on this site, i never took full credit for that rom. i use the term my rom, when i refer to the espresso 2.1 rom, b/c i changed it, not b/c i developed it from scratch and did everything to it on my own, i'm not a super-dev yet lol. i'm just improving other's work and learning along the way and giving them credit and asking permission along the way from now on until i know enough to make something of my own again (besides text files lol) that will be of great help to the community....but for now i'm focuses on improving my rom (AGAIN IT ISN'T COMPLETELY MY ROM MANY OTHERS HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY) and helping others with their work for the hero and problems....first person on the list....liquid!!!!!! (we're pming each other now folks working this out for the better so its alright)
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So.....can we use the Rom or No.....Just seems like it was a mistake by the OP to reuse LS's unfinished work without permission, that obviously was a mistake, but if the rom is up and running and "stable" can we just not forgive and forget?
I'm just wondering, not taking a stance/side just a user asking a question.
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we're working on things right now...

You know what man, you're a smark kid, you just take things a bit fast.
You'll grow to understand what it means to command respect here, and I'm sure you'll earn it from everyone. This place is bursting with ideas and creativity, but just PM ROM devs in the future. Every ROM dev needs help, there's no denying that. Sometimes the help you have to offer isn't enough or isn't to their preference, but there's never any harm in PMing to find out.
As far as my ROM goes, with your help, we'll finish this up and finally put an end to all this over exaggerated madness.

E huuuuuuuuug
[dpeeps74]

I think we all learned something here (I sure did), and that's a positive.

Kifno:
I understand you're trying to help, but make it short and sweet. We don't need a full passive - aggressive rundown of events.
I think you would do a great service to yourself (and the people reading your long disjointed posts) if you learned to use some basic English language sentence structure. Your lack of punctuation and your paragraphs of run-on sentences makes you look uneducated and immature.
You're not a bad person, so please take this as constructive criticism.

Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it

FdxRider said:
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
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I AGREE with FDX.... RESPECT MAN!!
KIFNO, Admitted he was Wrong!!
That's Big in itself!! It's seems these days, People find it SO MUCH EASIER to just LIE, or BULL**** their way through MISTAKES and basically LIFE in general!
Kifno DIDN'T DO THAT! Instead he owned up to his MISTAKES....
"LIKE a MAN" Should do!
After the Fact, at the End of the Day, All that's Left to come to some sort RECONCILIATION is a TRUE from the HEART a APOLOGY!!
*Sent On My*
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"Sprint" Hero... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero*ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA.BLUE.apk! "Page:10"of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867

Hey kifno
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U no tjsy myvrnhlo
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Wow man great job kifno. It's tough to own up in the face of so many people watching this, you're really just a good person beyond the scope of these forums. I'm proud to call you a fellow human being. I've been watching this escalate and deescalate and I must say it's been a roller coaster ride. I must say some people have been a bit harsher than they should have, but it's understandable when looked at from a different perspective. Kudos to you again.
I'm excited about how the ROM is moving forward at lightning speed right now. Note, LS, that I'm actually using your ROM right now (2.1 stable) and I llllllllooooove it! keep up the good work, I bet it's time-consuming and frustrating to look through and optimize so much code!
~ Jake

Thanks everyone
And I'm not a grammar freak lol I don't treat my post as essays I just type what comes to mind lol that's why my paragraph structure and grammar look bad on the forums just like this very long run on sentence but really constantly working, and school, and keeping 5 roms (mine and ls 4 builds) and my tweak up to date with fixes and new tweaks and optimizations is very time consuming and hard to fit all in one day lol but I just want to help the community and I plan on doing that the right way, LESSON LEARNED HERE, BTW look out for kifno & ls projects in the future

Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!

Many thanks!!
In the aftermath of all this stuff, I just want to say that truly I appreciate ALL the hard work that you devs put into keeping our Heroes from becoming paperweights. Just the small amount of work I've put into making my own themes for myself makes me appreciate the scope of talent and sheer blood, sweat, and tears it takes to make this stuff work.
ALL YOU DEVS ROCK!!!

oohaylima said:
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol Ya got me cop'er.

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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol.... Good **** Guys, Gotta Nice Laugh Outta Me!!
*Sent on My*
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"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867

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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other

kifno said:
Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
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Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS

PMGRANDS said:
Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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lmao! --> extra characters because my message was too short.

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+1 Good thread sparksco! I'll see if I can donate the one that broke my fall. Need to see if I can work some magic to do so.

I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?

jesusice said:
I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?
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that kinda makes me wonder, its been a long while since he has even been online so why get the community all hyped up?

strapped365 said:
Last Activity: 21st October 2011 04:32 AM
that kinda makes me wonder, its been a long while since he has even been online so why get the community all hyped up?
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Your a day late and about a dollar short

jesusice said:
I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?
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I'm not sure how busy he is with his other projects now that he's joined the cm team, but we could at least get salvagemod or some other ports perhaps. I for one want salvagemod even if it is just gingerbread. I've tried to port it but well, I'm just not him...I've emailed him but I think he's interested even though I have not heard a response yet. And salvagemod does have it's own nightlies. Who knows, he could bring more then just salvagemod, but I'm not going to jump the gun and start expecting things right away.

VICODAN said:
+1 Good thread sparksco! I'll see if I can donate the one that broke my fall. Need to see if I can work some magic to do so.
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ok, well if not we can get a charity thing going maybe? Post who wants to donate, how much ect. I'll pitch 20 bucks but not more because I'm broke right now

bumped OP and fixed development threads link.

So I was lurking in evo thread and came across this lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18431900#post18431900

Thanks Sparksco. Keep up the good work. We need more devs around here like you. Great convo on IRC with you tonight.

sparksco said:
ok, well if not we can get a charity thing going maybe? Post who wants to donate, how much ect. I'll pitch 20 bucks but not more because I'm broke right now
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I'd donate at least 20 to get him over here but only if he wants to and people are committed to getting him to the shift side

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I'd donate at least 20 to get him over here but only if he wants to and people are committed to getting him to the shift side
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Well like I said I still have yet to hear anything back from him. What would you say if someone offered you a free phone? And if we do get him a shift no one can expect anything. We can hope for the best I guess. I will even help port/compile salvagemod if need be and contribute to the projects as much as possible. I think that is what it really comes down to. Who wants salvagemod and is will to help contribute to it by at least providing logcats? I mean seriously all I ever see in the forums is people complaining but never offering anything usefull. If I'm the only person then I doubt he will want to do it...
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sparksco said:
Well like I said I still have yet to hear anything back from him. What would you say if someone offered you a free phone? And if we do get him a shift no one can expect anything. We can hope for the best I guess. I will even help port/compile salvagemod if need be and contribute to the projects as much as possible. I think that is what it really comes down to. Who wants salvagemod and is will to help contribute to it by at least providing logcats? I mean seriously all I ever see in the forums is people complaining but never offering anything usefull. If I'm the only person then I doubt he will want to do it...
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Yeah i'd take a free phone if people were willing to donate to me. Salvagemod does seem good and i'm glad your willing to help, I've always appreciated what you've done with the shift and if i knew anything about logcats and knew how to provide them i would if anyone needed them but my computer skills are very little in the coding department as i got kicked out of college but i'm all for him coming over and trying to help out as much as possible

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Yeah i'd take a free phone if people were willing to donate to me. Salvagemod does seem good and i'm glad your willing to help, I've always appreciated what you've done with the shift and if i knew anything about logcats and knew how to provide them i would if anyone needed them but my computer skills are very little in the coding department as i got kicked out of college but i'm all for him coming over and trying to help out as much as possible
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Good tip ...for logcat, go to command prompt and type "ADB Logcat" and viloa
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notsointeresting said:
Good tip ...for logcat, go to command prompt and type "ADB Logcat" and viloa
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lol now all i have to do is set up ADB on my computer. New HDD and never set up anything for android

So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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notsointeresting said:
So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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Salvage mod is not your standard cm7 alike... Get a clue before you waste space on a thread with dumb uninformed comments... But that's right you call yourself a dev so why don't you compile salvage mod or any rom for that matter? Because you can't... Just my two cents...
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drob311 said:
Salvage mod is not your standard cm7 alike... Get a clue before you waste space on a thread with dumb uninformed comments... But that's right you call yourself a dev so why don't you compile salvage mod or any rom for that matter? Because you can't... Just my two cents...
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Why did you have to be such a jerkoff??? He was just stating his opinion and as such, you would THINK that people would act like a MAN instead of a little child. Your abrasive comment was not needed nor was it called for. Now I'm starting to see why people are leaving XDA, people don't know how to act correctly.

notsointeresting said:
So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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Don't let one person get to you for many people (including myself) appreciate your work.

Yes he was stating his opinion just like drob was. He is right about salvagemod, but that is no reason to try to discredit salvagemod or say that we don't need more roms. What's wrong with more roms? It's a aosp rom that has very little cm stuff in it. It doesn't matter now anyways, we will not be getting salvagemod and I am not at liberty to say why. I can say people attacking is not helping devs stick to xda.
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you would THINK that people would act like a MAN instead of a little child.
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One can hope...
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