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So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
I think you mean HBOOT...
elborak said:
I think you mean HBOOT...
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Lol, any info?
2. Nothing important.
3. No.
4. It should, but I've never run CM6.
bradm23 said:
So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hyboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hyboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
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1. Bootloader.
2. none that I know of or noticed
3. No a nandroid does not change bootloader. You need a special img file to use in hboot to flash back to an older version and also need S-OFF (unrevoked forever) to do so
4. You should not have to update hboot to install any rom. The latest OTA works fine on any hboot I believe, I have hboot .79 on my phone. You don't need .92 for anything to work properly. CM6 will work fine with all hboots.
hyboot is far superior to hboot....... duh
borgey420 said:
hyboot is far superior to hboot....... duh
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Thanks for mocking me. Incredible does rom (the cm6 mash up) needs hboot. 92 A
Adrynalyne has a ROM (Fourth Wave) that needs .92 HBOOT as well. First mock is free.
yes .92 is the latest and it rules. lol.
apparently the new kernel source is picky about hboot for some reason.
there are some differences with .92 but who cares really. if you need it for the rom/kernel you want then flash it. plus you now will have the latest.
can someone post a link for the 92. HBOOT i have been looking for it to Flash please
RYANIMOSITY said:
can someone post a link for the 92. HBOOT i have been looking for it to Flash please
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http://adrynalyne.us/
Would I upgrade this like I would with a radio?
Installed like a radio,ended up in the reboot loop in the boot loader. Had to access clock work recovery and do a nandroid backup.
now I have the latest version without any additional problems
I also got in to an hboot loop after updating to .92. I was able to get it running again by accessing Clockworkmod and doing an advanced restore of boot from my last nandroid backup.
I guess I just can't help but tinker with these things. One day it will catch up to me I guess.
FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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bradm23 said:
So I really want to try out the new mashup rom, however it requires the latest version of hboot.
I have a few questions regarding hyboot.
1. What is hboot
2. Are there any advantages/improvements/differences between the newest version and the one that came stock?
3 . If I upgrade to this and find out I do not like the rom, would a nandroid back up resore the previous hyboot?
4. If a nandroid doesn't restore the previous, does cm6 work with the newest version? If not, how would I go about downgrading?
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It does NOT require the new hboot
I've proven this because I have the stock hboot
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willhill said:
FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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Yeah, that didn't work for me. Flashed the new HBOOT, stuck in loop, pushed Kings #4 w/recovery, still stuck in HBOOT loop. Reflashed ROM w/o wipe, everything's back to normal.
willhill said:
FYI, the hboot loop occurs because installing hboot wipes your kernel. Install a kernal and you'll be good to go, no nandroid required.
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LMFOL wish I new that yesterday. I about pooed on my self when I got the loop. It took me a few times before I could even get in to recovery. Then life was good again
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bradm23 said:
http://adrynalyne.us/
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Thanks for the link... anyone have a hashfile to compare the download to?
The .92 HBOOT has a larger partition size than the previous versions, so yes there is an advantage to the newest bootloader. Just be advised that flashing the .92 will result in your old backups (nandroids) to no longer work. You'll have to make new backups.
I just recieved my EVO and it currently is running build number 3.26.651.6 and I revieved an update notification for 3.29.651.5 and did not execute the update. I intend to Root my phone using unrevoked3 and want to know if I can upgrade it before rooting or need to update it first and then upgrade using a custom ROM. Your help is greatly appreciated....Chuck
If you plan on rooting your phone why even bother with the update. Just root and flash a rom based on the latest OTA. I don't have an answer if unrevoked works with the latest OTA.
Revoked definately works, cause I just got my Evo a few days ago, and did all updates. Now I'm rooted and running CM6.
Depends on if you want to install a different ROM or not. I'd say go for it, root, and then create a nand backup as your original.
I was in the exact same situation. I did the official OTA update so it would flash all the new radios, PRI, PRL, etc. Then ran Unrevoked and installed Amon's RA recovery, then ran Unrevoked Forever, and then flashed Fresh.
Is there an advantage to running Amon's RA? I can't find a tutorial on how to install that. I'm using Clockwork recovery, and I'm just not a fan... I hated it on my Hero! =)
ImmortalLuD said:
Is there an advantage to running Amon's RA? I can't find a tutorial on how to install that. I'm using Clockwork recovery, and I'm just not a fan... I hated it on my Hero! =)
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On Clockwork towards the bottom choose flash Alternative recovery and select.
bizdady said:
On Clockwork towards the bottom choose flash Alternative recovery and select.
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It wouldn't work. So I had to go old school, and flash the recovery image. Thanks so much, this is so much nicer!
Chuck, how's the progress?
You can also flash Amons RA when you run Unrevoked 3.21.
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Thanks
Thanks for all the help. I went ahead and rooted using unrevoked3 without updating. Worked great. Next I'll work on the update
ImmortalLuD said:
It wouldn't work. So I had to go old school, and flash the recovery image. Thanks so much, this is so much nicer!
Chuck, how's the progress?
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Just finished rooting without updating first. Unrevoked worked great. Work on how to update and flash ROMS next. Thanks for the help...Chuck
buschce said:
Just finished rooting without updating first. Unrevoked worked great. Work on how to update and flash ROMS next. Thanks for the help...Chuck
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Oops.. guess I'm too late, but for anyone else wondering, I would say do all the updates up to 3.29 so everything is latest.. radios etc. Then root and make a nandroid. Now you have rooted 3.29 stock, which is a good place for first time rooters to start. Also this way you keep all your data if rooted stock is all you want.
All I am interested in is Wireless tethering on stock android. Is it possible to do the OTA update no that i am rooted and then root again using Unrevoked? Thanks for the help...Chuck
buschce said:
All I am interested in is Wireless tethering on stock android. Is it possible to do the OTA update no that i am rooted and then root again using Unrevoked? Thanks for the help...Chuck
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Make a nandroid, then try and do the OTA. See what happens. If it goes through, you'll lose root, so just re-root and install wireless tether and you're done. If not, you'll have to grab a stock rooted rom and latest radios/wimax and flash them all, then add the wireless tether app.
I would have advised updating. It would get you the updated radio and wimax in a more proper fashion.
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I've done a fair few flashes with my Desire and always found it quite easy to follow and do, but I am so, so, so confused about how to go about attacking the HTC Desire.
Essentially, I want to root it and install a custom ROM (maybe change a radio, that's it). However, there is no set of instructions in any one thread, it's all over the place.
So far, i've managed to permroot my brothers phone using Visionary. Now, the next step is getting Clockwork Recovery. However, there seems to be two version 2.x (installed by ROM manager) and version 3.x. Apparently the former doesn't work for CM7... but I cannot find how to actually get Clockwork 3.x installed (easily...).
What are the most popular DesireHD ROMs and do they all require Clockwork 3.x? Also, what is S-Off... and do I need it!?
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
jkoljo said:
Because standard Desire does not have nearly as tight security as DHD has. You need S-OFF to get clockworkmod, and if you want to flash CWM 3.x, you need ENG S-OFF. Only gingerbread roms need CWM 3.x.
S-OFF: Phone security off, internal memory becomes read/write, you can flash anything you want, no version checks etc.
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Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
jkoljo said:
It does not get much more automated than my Radio S-OFF Tool / ENG S-OFF Tool..
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I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
alex98uk said:
Hmm... OK, I mean this is for my brother who is in no way technically inclined Perhaps we'll just leave it rooted for now and see if an automated tool appears for the Desire HD in the future
Cheers!
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Possibly like this one? search is your friend
alex98uk said:
I suppose so. So basically, the steps are:
Root phone - Done
S-Off/Eng S-Off
Install Clockwork Mod
Install ROM
The bit I find trouble with is how to do the clockwork mod bit. It seems like CM is the best DHD ROM, but that requires Clockwork Recovery 3.whatever and to get that installed you have to go through a ton of SDK stuff. Is there an easy way to get it installed?
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If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
SAPPH1RE said:
If u really need CM7, but doesn't want to install cwm 3, than, try CM7 on my signature..
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Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
alex98uk said:
Ah brilliant
You know if it'll work with Clockwork Recovery 2.5.0.7 as that what comes with ROM Manager?
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Simple answer, no.
Please try following the advice you are being given and search the development forum, if your not willing/able to devote the time to reading up on S-OFF and installing CM7 please leave well alone and save us all a little time
To be honest I think that dhd is quite easy to root. You have one click tool in stickies so really a monkey could do it.
I'm attempting to root my girlfriends galaxy s and it's really complicated. Download this download that check if you have 3button startup, get Odin and so on....
Desire HD is fun to root...
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One Click-tool? For the latest update you have to downgrade,that looks not so easy?
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Yeah, downgrading makes it a bit harder, true. But after downgrading it is a breeze.
Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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Visionary will not do it, but I might make a tool to handle all those downgrade commands. I am busy now, however, so you should not wait for it.
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Wating for a new tool or updated visionary?
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I wouldn't hold your breathe, whilst there is a simple-ish downgrade route the chances of anyone going to the great effort of needlessly finding and exploiting a new security flaw are remote. Anyone desperate for root will probably take the downgrade route and anyone unable to grasp the steps involved would probably be better served by a stock rom
I'm looking forward for an automatic tool to downgrade...Jkoljo
I want to get rid of that irritating bootsound and have a new bootscreen...
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Just use the manual method, I am busy, so it might take a while before I can start developing such tool..
I have time and I am afraid to do something wrong...
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I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
dhiral.v said:
I wonder why HTC don't want us to root...
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Tech support, without root access you are unlikely to do anything terminal to your DHD software wise, so that should limit your tech support to hardware issues. With root access ham fisted people are returning phones with user inflicted software problems
Check your ROM Manager to flash 3.0.0.5 and have it show correctly.
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DAMNIT...you beat me to it lol...I was so stoked when I saw that.
No I just have to get this damn ext4
troby86 said:
Check your ROM Manager to flash 3.0.0.5 and have it show correctly.
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Is this for people who have flashed ClockworkMod 3 already?
Will I see this? I have ROM Manager v3.0.0.7 w/ ClockworkMod 2.5.1.3 currently.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just a little confused.
hogg2500 said:
Is this for people who have flashed ClockworkMod 3 already?
Will I see this? I have ROM Manager v3.0.0.7 w/ ClockworkMod 2.5.1.3 currently.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just a little confused.
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I had the same setup as you (RM v3.0.0.7/CM 2.5.1.3) and saw the update, now I have the latest ClockworkMod Recovery 3
WOOOOHOOOOOO
Now all the threads about people not being able to get it will stop!
borisimo said:
I had the same setup as you (RM v3.0.0.7/CM 2.5.1.3) and saw the update, now I have the latest ClockworkMod Recovery 3
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Ah alright so now when I get it that should allow me to install Cyanogenmod 7 then right since clockwork 3 supports ext4? I didn't do the ENG-Hboot though. I'm assuming that could prevent me from doing any Gingerbread ROM?
hogg2500 said:
Ah alright so now when I get it that should allow me to install Cyanogenmod 7 then right since clockwork 3 supports ext4? I didn't do the ENG-Hboot though. I'm assuming that could prevent me from doing any Gingerbread ROM?
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NOPE. That is not necessary to flash CM7. With CWM3, you are good to go.
TJBunch1228 said:
NOPE. That is not necessary to flash CM7. With CWM3, you are good to go.
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Wonderful =D. I thought I seen that somewhere... One more queston lol. I was thinking of also GingerVillian ROM. I should be good with doing that then too?
Thank you everyone
hogg2500 said:
Wonderful =D. I thought I seen that somewhere... One more queston lol. I was thinking of also GingerVillian ROM. I should be good with doing that then too?
Thank you everyone
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Yeah for sure. GV has most of the gingerbread source kanged from CM7 anyway, with some visual tweaks as far as I have been able to see. With CWM3, you will be good to flash any G2 ROM that is available to us.
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Yeah for sure. GV has most of the gingerbread source kanged from CM7 anyway, with some visual tweaks as far as I have been able to see. With CWM3, you will be good to flash any G2 ROM that is available to us.
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Sweetness. I seen that Eng-hboot in the Cyanogenmod 7. Not really sure why?
But I did Get Root using Rage & Gfree. I have never flashed back to an older recovery though.
Is this universal now or will I still need to downgrade to get back to
cm6.1.1
loustrk said:
Is this universal now or will I still need to downgrade to get back to
cm6.1.1
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Ganii ran a test with it said he could flash between 2.2 and 2.3 with no problems plus he was able to do nandriods of both and restore them, so sounds like it is universal for all roms 2.2 and 2.3.
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Yes,seems to be no problems there.
Come from CM7 Nightly,then I did a wipe data/factory reset.
Installed now CM 6.1.1 Froyo 2.2 ROM,works.
Did a nandroid backup,works.
Then tried to restore,works too
CWM 3.0.0.5 seems to work now with 2.2 ROMs too
i was on the 2.xxx recovery in rom manager and it prompted me to flash new recovery of 3.0.0.5. so I dont think its for people who already have 3.0.0.5
I had 3.0.0.5 already and yes it did promt me to update to 3.0.0.5 because proir to this everyones recovery in rom manager said 2.5.1.3 even if they were on 3.0.0.5, so this is for everyone.
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Ganii ran a test with it said he could flash between 2.2 and 2.3 with no problems plus he was able to do nandriods of both and restore them, so sounds like it is universal for all roms 2.2 and 2.3.
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Thanks Joemm & Ganii, Will try after work!
Spastic909 said:
i was on the 2.xxx recovery in rom manager and it prompted me to flash new recovery of 3.0.0.5. so I dont think its for people who already have 3.0.0.5
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Installed few days ago from here,but it`s the old one:
http://phones.crackflashers.com/vision/index.php?folder=cmVjb3Zlcmllcw==
Can`t restore 2.2 ROMs with this,so the recovery 3.0.0.5 which
you can download now via ROM Manager is newer.
Updated fine, just want to know do I have to partition my sd card
with ext 4 before I try cm7? I backed up my sd to my computer and
have cm7 and gapps downloaded and ready to go.
No,not needed.
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No,not needed.
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Sweet, giving it a go now.
Hey guys, Just got my acer iconia yesterday and its already rooted, I got an EVO 3D and i need to flash so this will hold me over till we find root for the 3D. And besides this is a really nice table for sure. What Im wondering is would it be possible to have Amon_RA recovery ported over to this device. CMW is good but Amon_RA is great and, atleast with phones much more dependable.
link to Amon RA recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
please tell me you backed up your stock tablet... and didn't update yet...
share
we are in need of clean img
sanaell said:
please tell me you backed up your stock tablet... and didn't update yet...
share
we are in need of clean img
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I learned to never take OTAs no update, and I backed up just after rooting and adding CMW.And I have not flashed any ROMs yet. I could help you guys out just tell me what you need, system dump?
Just bumping this thread, Still wondering if its possible to port Amon_Ra recovery?
steal25 said:
Just bumping this thread, Still wondering if its possible to port Amon_Ra recovery?
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You would need to ask the developer of the recovery.