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Battery issue - new question

I know battery issues have been discussed over and over in this forum, but I have a question that I couldn't find the answer to in this forum.
I have an unlocked rogers x10 that's updated to R2BA020 that I'm using on Fido network, the phone is always roaming because I'm on Fido.
I'm thinking this is why my battery life sucks. I tried everything, task killers, juice defender, dim screen, full discharge.
Does the phone use more juice if it's roaming?

Yes, but it doesn't make a very large difference. If you're worried about constantly roaming, take a look at android, which let's you turn off Amsterdam on 3G.
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naz78 said:
I know battery issues have been discussed over and over in this forum, but I have a question that I couldn't find the answer to in this forum.
I have an unlocked rogers x10 that's updated to R2BA020 that I'm using on Fido network, the phone is always roaming because I'm on Fido.
I'm thinking this is why my battery life sucks. I tried everything, task killers, juice defender, dim screen, full discharge.
Does the phone use more juice if it's roaming?
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Have you tried spare parts or something similar to check your battery usage? It lets you see what component is using the most battery. Even the Battery Usage option under Settings->About Phone should tell you where your juice is draining.

j4mm3r said:
Have you tried spare parts or something similar to check your battery usage? It lets you see what component is using the most battery. Even the Battery Usage option under Settings->About Phone should tell you where your juice is draining.
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If he doesn't want to download spare parts, he could just dial *#*#4636#*#* (did I get that right?) in his dialer to get to the same menus.
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Greetings,
Yeah will be more wise to check whats actually draining your battery so we will facts in front of us and try to find a solution.
As for roaming i think yes draining more battery, please gove us usage of the phone , activity and how much your battery can hold up.
Also please onform us what home you use.
I recomend home++.
Regards
Vatis
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I'm still having battery life issues as well on my Rogers x10a.
I was at 100% as of 12:00pm and it's now at 87% 5:00pm.
According to the battery info I've used:
Voice Calls - 30% (10m 35s)
Cell Standby - 28%
Phone Idle - 22%
Display - 11%
Android System - 4%
ADW.Launcher - 3%
3G on, WIFI off, BT off
No idea what is draining my battery so much

I'm on Fido as well, though I don't see a roaming icon anywhere.
Are you sure you're roaming?

glitchexe said:
I'm still having battery life issues as well on my Rogers x10a.
I was at 100% as of 12:00pm and it's now at 87% 5:00pm.
According to the battery info I've used:
Voice Calls - 30% (10m 35s)
Cell Standby - 28%
Phone Idle - 22%
Display - 11%
Android System - 4%
ADW.Launcher - 3%
3G on, WIFI off, BT off
No idea what is draining my battery so much
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2.6%/hr with actual use (not sleeping overnight) is not bad at all. a 4inch screen, 3g connected all the time smartphone will not get great battery life if you actually use it. many people talk about how they get a couple of days or more on a single charge but there is no possible way for this to happen unless you are barely touching your phone. the best i can hope for is a full days use as i use my phone all day and evening.
sometimes an app sits in the background and uses lots of juice, so if you want to make sure that is not happening you might want to do a hard reset and not install any apps for a day and see how battery life it. you can add back apps slowly so that you will be able to tell if one is causing your phone to use too much juice.
the other things you can try is not to use widgets that auto update all the time or try locking your phone to 2g for the day, turning screen brightness down to the lowest level when possible. stuff like that will help. since i updated to the r2 generic rom my battery life has been good enough. i could always use more, but i use my phone too much to expect more.

Thanks I use my phone a lot as well but hearing all these awesome battery life stories had me expecting more. Guess I'll live with what I have.
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glitchexe said:
Thanks I use my phone a lot as well but hearing all these awesome battery life stories had me expecting more. Guess I'll live with what I have.
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It drives me nuts too but the reality is that we all use our phones differently so while some people are happy getting two days of use by barely using their phone I just can't do that. I rely on my phone for too many different things, so if I can get through one day I am fine. It was a shock for me initially as I was using a blackberry 9700 and it had a very small screen and long battery life

vatis24 said:
Greetings,
Yeah will be more wise to check whats actually draining your battery so we will facts in front of us and try to find a solution.
As for roaming i think yes draining more battery, please gove us usage of the phone , activity and how much your battery can hold up.
Also please onform us what home you use.
I recomend home++.
Regards
Vatis
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I took my phone off charge 6 hours ago and I have 79% left as I type.
I did a 5 minute phone call, 10 minutes browsing, 2 minute YouTube video and I turned on WiFi for 30 minutes and Bluetooth for 45 minutes.
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 48%
Standby 18
Phone Idle 13%
Voice call 13%

I've been switching options on and off for the last few weeks that I have x10 and the conclusion is => turn of APN when you don't use it and the battery last for 3 days. Only problem I can think of is mail push but you can always check mail every 30min. There is this "APN on/off" widget that makes switching APN on and off pretty easy so there shouldn't be too much problems.

Doesnt make a difference here.. wifi and 3g cane my battery!!
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naz78 said:
I took my phone off charge 6 hours ago and I have 79% left as I type.
I did a 5 minute phone call, 10 minutes browsing, 2 minute YouTube video and I turned on WiFi for 30 minutes and Bluetooth for 45 minutes.
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 48%
Standby 18
Phone Idle 13%
Voice call 13%
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Update:
I removed JuiceDefender, and I installed advanced task killer, and APN on/off widget and the battery life is much better now. I turn data off when I'm not using the phone and I kill tasks about 3-4 times a day. The screen is dimmed to 15%.
As per Android system info:
Up time: 1 days, 3 hours, 1 minutes, 59 seconds
Up time (without sleep): 0 days, 4 hours, 23 minutes, 8 seconds
17 % battery life left
I checked the settings and it says:
Display 40% (time on 2h 33m 58s)
Standby 29%
Phone Idle 22%
Wifi 4%
Android System 3%
Broswer 2%
Quick question for advanced users, I noticed that Android sys info says up time without sleep is just over 4 huors while the phone settings says 2h 33m, any idea which one is more accurate? I'm assuming up time without sleep = time screen is on.

Switch off GPS. I read about it and how it improved batteries. Bloody true. Its great advice.

naz78 said:
Quick question for advanced users, I noticed that Android sys info says up time without sleep is just over 4 huors while the phone settings says 2h 33m, any idea which one is more accurate? I'm assuming up time without sleep = time screen is on.
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Time without sleep = time screen is on
IF nothing isn't keeping the phone awake.
The phone setting says 2h 33m because it counts the time that the phone was asleep AND the screen was off.
The real percentage is the one Android sys info gives you.
It is rather normal for the phone to have slightly more awake time that screen on time, as some applications work even when the screen is off (push Gmail, the clock, some widget etc...).
As long as your wake time is not 100%, you're just fine.

My_Immortal said:
Time without sleep = time screen is on
IF nothing isn't keeping the phone awake.
The phone setting says 2h 33m because it counts the time that the phone was asleep AND the screen was off.
The real percentage is the one Android sys info gives you.
It is rather normal for the phone to have slightly more awake time that screen on time, as some applications work even when the screen is off (push Gmail, the clock, some widget etc...).
As long as your wake time is not 100%, you're just fine.
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Thanks for the info. Good to know that Android sys info is accurate, almost 5 hours of up time is amazing.

Juice Defender paid version

How many have actually bought this? Is it a huge increase in battery life? My phones battery life is really poor and I am wondering if this purchase resolves that. I use wifi all the time, like its on 100% of the time I am at home and such, even when Im not using it

Mark271 said:
How many have actually bought this? Is it a huge increase in battery life? My phones battery life is really poor and I am wondering if this purchase resolves that. I use wifi all the time, like its on 100% of the time I am at home and such, even when Im not using it
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Get Tasker instead. Same feature and much more

kolyan said:
Get Tasker instead. Same feature and much more
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I read that, is there anyway I can find out what to do with Tasker to save battery life?
Like, what are some awesome things with Tasker. I see people post but it is usually people really not know what to do and such.

Mark271 said:
I read that, is there anyway I can find out what to do with Tasker to save battery life?
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As far as battery goes, u can control brightness, wifi, gps, data, syncs, and bluetooth. I personally have custom time settings for brightness and screen timeouts, that's it.

kolyan said:
As far as battery goes, u can control brightness, wifi, gps, data, syncs, and bluetooth. I personally have custom time settings for brightness and screen timeouts, that's it.
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Could you say, turn wifi off after 2 minutes of screen time out, and turn on after 1 minute of screen on?

A lot of people are saying it uses more battery life, definitely not what I want.

Mark271 said:
Could you say, turn wifi off after 2 minutes of screen time out, and turn on after 1 minute of screen on?
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U can tell Tasker to do anything u want. Both Tasker and Juice Defender can drain battery if u configure them wrong.

Mark271 said:
A lot of people are saying it uses more battery life, definitely not what I want.
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It depends on how you use it. If you have Tasker using your GPS every 2 minutes (the default) to detect your location then yes, it's going to suck power.
I have mine set up to use the Near WIFI option to detect when I'm at work or home, and like you I leave my WIFI on all the time. It uses very minimal power.
Leaving WIFI on isn't too big of a deal. It goes to sleep after 5 minutes of the phone being off, and it pings out every so often to see what networks are there, but the power draw is minimal.

Last weekend I tested out Juice Defender to see how long my battery could last. 1d8h53m (~33hours) later my phone hit 10%. I plan on testing again this weekend with Juice Defender disabled to see what kind of difference there is.

I have used Juice Defender for about a week now and while I have found substantial battery savings I have also noticed that on its default settings it also causes issues for me. The main way juice saves battery is by turning off data services for 14 min out of every 15 min when the screen is off.
The problem I run into with this is that if you use gtalk or any instant messenger it will disconnect and reconnect you from those services. I have missed messages due to this. It also seems to affect the status of your friends on gtalk. My friends would always show offline until i sent them a message to "wake up the service" then they would show accurately until the screen went off again.
Overall for me the tradeoffs were not worth it. Also I was never thrilled with the idea of having to wait up to 13 min to get an email, push email should be instant.
Just my 2 cents

U can save battery by configuring brightness. Ex. I have auto brightness from 8-7 and min setting other times.

12 hours and my phone was dead with MINIMAL use, then I started to use switchpro to disable my data when im not using it. usually have my brightness about halfway down, and now my battery lasts 20 hours easy with alot of texting, a few calls, and games. I need to try tasker but this way works pretty well... if you haven't tried it yet

[Q] Very High Power Consumption Android On HD2

Hi,
Ive recently installed Android 2.2 Froyo on an SD card on my HD2 and the battery is going down so quick... it wasnt great in Windows mobile but now I'm struggling to get it to last all day...
I'm saying to myself this cant be normal, I'm also trying a Samsung Galaxy S and the battery is so much better!!
Is there anyway I can improve the battery power on my HD2, I know in a HD2 the battery is a 1350mah and the Galaxy S is a 1500mah battery.
Should that make such a difference?
I'm considering going back to Win Mobile but dont really want to but havent got any other choice if the battery carrys on like this....
I also notice the screen and back get really quite warm... I suppose Android is making the system work harder?!?!?!

Its safe to say that you havent read any of the threads about battery life.
Before you say I did a search and didnt find anything Ive already typed in battery in search and found a bunch of threads.
Now what you need to do is find out why its running so warm.
It could be the kernal version you are using.
Ways to improve battery life are using setcpu and underclocking. A lot of members use current widget as a method to see when High drain is occuring.
In sleep mode you should be seeing less than 10ma. If you dont see less then this there is a problem.
Set current widget to 1 min intervals.
Dont use task killers they dont help anything no matter what anyone says.
Dont compare the captivate to the hd2. 2 different phones.

I am using mccm 1.5 customize, and CurrentWidget shows 5mA on standby which I think is good enough. Sometimes, it shows 60mA on standby in a while and my battery drains very fast, even I use Advanced Task Killer but it does not help. I have to reboot the phone to get it back to 5mA on standby.
Anyone has any idea of what may cause my standby power that high (60mA)?
Thanks.

hazard99 said:
Its safe to say that you havent read any of the threads about battery life.
Before you say I did a search and didnt find anything Ive already typed in battery in search and found a bunch of threads.
Now what you need to do is find out why its running so warm.
It could be the kernal version you are using.
Ways to improve battery life are using setcpu and underclocking. A lot of members use current widget as a method to see when High drain is occuring.
In sleep mode you should be seeing less than 10ma. If you dont see less then this there is a problem.
Set current widget to 1 min intervals.
Dont use task killers they dont help anything no matter what anyone says.
Dont compare the captivate to the hd2. 2 different phones.
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Thanks for your tips for better battery life. I was curious about a few things and hope you could clarify a few things for me and some instruction or threads on how to do so. And yes I have searched, that's the first thing I always do before I do anything web based as far as positng.
1. How do you setcpu and underclocking?
2. How do you find the amount of battery that standby takes? i.e. 60mA? How do you get to that setting in android?
Thanks for your help in advance.

Setcpu is an app used to control your cpu speed.
link included
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=394848&d=1283568967
the setcpu dev's site with complete info on how to use it.
http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
To check ma's use (current widget)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776085
long press on the desktop and apply current widget. It will ask you if you want to create a log. Create a log for 1 min intervals. Put the phone to sleep and leave it for a good 5 mins.
You can then open the log file usint astro file manager and check your drainage while sleep.
One thing I found is that If i am having high drain i turn my gps on and restart then it usually settles down and I can turn the gps off.
If you have apps that are syncing you will a higher than normal drain during those times the apps sync. if you set your apps to sync at longer intervals the amount of batter drain will be unnoticable.
I have major battery ocd. I constantly check my battery and have to force myself not to look but still use my phone as any normal person would.
I can pull more than 12 hours easy!

Thanks hazard99!
The first time I ran android I don't think I've had any battery issues and now that I'm looking at the percent on my homescreen Im beginning to feel battery OCD too. It's like I lose 1% atleast every 15 minutes when I look at my screen. But I did take and apply all the tips you told me and I do see that it only uses 5ma when screen is off. I truely don't understand. :/

Stop looking at your screen. Stop worrying. The more you look the more juice you use while the screen is on. There will be more points where the phone is off.

traithudo said:
I am using mccm 1.5 customize, and CurrentWidget shows 5mA on standby which I think is good enough. Sometimes, it shows 60mA on standby in a while and my battery drains very fast, even I use Advanced Task Killer but it does not help. I have to reboot the phone to get it back to 5mA on standby.
Anyone has any idea of what may cause my standby power that high (60mA)?
Thanks.
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Ive also been trying to investigate this, my standby drain is usually 60+ mA, and during use it jumps to the 200's, strange stuff indeed....For you to have 5mA, lol i wish that was for me too =/

otakubakaa said:
Ive also been trying to investigate this, my standby drain is usually 60+ mA, and during use it jumps to the 200's, strange stuff indeed....For you to have 5mA, lol i wish that was for me too =/
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What radio and wm are you using? Do you use SetCPU?

I had high battery consumption, too. But now I found something interesting...
Due I'm not allowed to post links, yet, search for the post with topic:
[SOLUTION] Possible solution for heavy battery drainage.
With this fix: over night I only lost 20% instead of 59% of battery.

uninstall SetCPU

10507 said:
What radio and wm are you using? Do you use SetCPU?
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im using the same radio as you (2.10), energycookie rom 21916, and my setcpu is at interactive 245/729, and for sleep its at 245/384, hastarin kernal.

Use a Battdrv.dll from older HD2 ROM 1.48 Etc. I'm not sure if you recmod the module and replace the current one in Windows if you will get the same benefit as if you cooked the driver in.

i just updated my kernal to the latest zimage in mattc's froyosense's evo tree, and my standby is around 6-11 ma now, guess that solved some issues lol, anyone know whats the normal operating ma power consumption for texting?
EDIT: Now when i try to enable wifi i simply get "error", did i mess up on something? =/
EDIT: Solved above problem. WOOT!

Calibrate your battery

We all want the maximum out of our battery and the corresponding indication. Found this thread in Desire forum on calibration of the battery and can be usefull for Wildfire aswell....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Just did the full cycle myself.....will report back results.

Frank C said:
We all want the maximum out of our battery and the corresponding indication. Found this thread in Desire forum on calibration of the battery and can be usefull for Wildfire aswell....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903
Just did the full cycle myself.....will report back results.
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i'm doing it right now, it cant do any harm. Thanks for the post

Any updates???
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I cant see any changes
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The wildfire has a really good battery already
No need to calibrate imo. Can last 2+ days for me when I don't abuse the wifi and games.

First feedback.....no noticable difference seen.....What do seem to help is to charge you phone longer even after green light indicates that battery is full.....For me than takes longer to go from 100 to 99.

kevin2516 said:
The wildfire has a really good battery already
No need to calibrate imo. Can last 2+ days for me when I don't abuse the wifi and games.
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How do you do this? I'm doing everything, I underclock my phone down to 160-245 Mhz, I turn on my wifi only when I have to, I keep my phone in airplane mode permanently, I constantly run on display turned down to max. And yet I've yet got to witness my phone going over 18h uptime. Do you run a custom ROM or something?

xc1024 said:
How do you do this? I'm doing everything, I underclock my phone down to 160-245 Mhz, I turn on my wifi only when I have to, I keep my phone in airplane mode permanently, I constantly run on display turned down to max. And yet I've yet got to witness my phone going over 18h uptime. Do you run a custom ROM or something?
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I find the same thing, and have even been thinking of returning it because it can't last longer than 24hrs. I have even restored to stock and hard reset, so no apps added or anything, BT/WIFI off and the battery life still sucks.

xc1024 said:
How do you do this? I'm doing everything, I underclock my phone down to 160-245 Mhz, I turn on my wifi only when I have to, I keep my phone in airplane mode permanently, I constantly run on display turned down to max. And yet I've yet got to witness my phone going over 18h uptime. Do you run a custom ROM or something?
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Yes I've tried openfire rom and wildpuzzle rom. Battery lasts as I have stated. I also use setcpu to set up profiles when phone screen is off to help it a little

Would also like to add that on the stock rom, the battery lasts long as well but custom rom is better

My phone is a stock. But as you can see, the battery life leaves a lot of room for improvement. How can I increase ir?

Not sure, but after rooting my battery life improved signigficantly, and it also charges fast than before... htc wildifire.

ok so i charged my phone to 100% and left it on my table untouched last night when i got to sleep, left it in my pocket today at uni without using wifi/games, just to check the time, is currently still at 99% with up time of 14hrs so far.
and if you want to maximise your battery life with stock rom, lower brightness, disable auto sync of accounts, disable 3g if you're not using it, try juice defender, i think that might help you guys.

kevin2516 said:
ok so i charged my phone to 100% and left it on my table untouched last night when i got to sleep, left it in my pocket today at uni without using wifi/games, just to check the time, is currently still at 99% with up time of 14hrs so far.
and if you want to maximise your battery life with stock rom, lower brightness, disable auto sync of accounts, disable 3g if you're not using it, try juice defender, i think that might help you guys.
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i tried installing juice defender,
though its showing in setting> applications>manage apps
i am unable in find its icon in apps list. is that normal with that application?

realxception said:
i tried installing juice defender,
though its showing in setting> applications>manage apps
i am unable in find its icon in apps list. is that normal with that application?
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Hmm strange, I have installed it and icon shows normally in application list.

I went through the calibration process and my battery life has increased significantly. Currently I have 5 hours and 12 minutes of uptime with occasional phone calls and some wifi usage - battery is at 99%.

I find that battery life is all about how strong ur signal is.
At home i get a full 3g signal, battery lasts about 30 hours with my syncs on all day, couple of hours of wifi and maybe 30 mins of gaming and about 30mins of phone calls.
When i'm at work and the signal fluctuates i get about 20 hours average.
When i was in a restaurant for a party recently from 7pm to midnight, there was hardly any signal and i used about 60% of the battery in 5 hours!
At the end of the day if the battery lasts for 18hours with all my stuff turned on then i won't complain as the phone does everything you need except make the tea!
I mean what's the point of turning all the smartphone stuff off? Might as well just go and buy a Nokia.

rommi0 said:
I went through the calibration process and my battery life has increased significantly. Currently I have 5 hours and 12 minutes of uptime with occasional phone calls and some wifi usage - battery is at 99%.
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Update:
Uptime now is 24 hours and 45 minutes, with a bunch of phone calls, messages and occasional wifi and data use - battery is at 63%

I'm familiar with the calibration thing n it worked well on my hero but since rooting with unrevoked u get no green light when phone is off n also need to pull battery to turn it on again.. so I don't c how I can with this irritating bug! Any solutions?
With data connection off I get bout 48hrs with just calls n txt. Otherwise with light use I get 30 ish tops
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bassmonkey said:
I'm familiar with the calibration thing n it worked well on my hero but since rooting with unrevoked u get no green light when phone is off n also need to pull battery to turn it on again.. so I don't c how I can with this irritating bug! Any solutions?
With data connection off I get bout 48hrs with just calls n txt. Otherwise with light use I get 30 ish tops
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I faced the same problem, since rooting my wildfire. Can someone answer. Tks

[Q] How do you see the battery drainage?

I searched alot actually but either I searched wrong or there just isnt anything about it - is there a widged or app or something that shows how many mA the phone is draining? I see this written on dev's rom posts but I dont know how to measure it and how to check for it. I guess its something easy but I cant finnd it

currentwidget
free from market
you can get a transparent version by looking in the general Android Themes and Apps section, and looking in the transparent widgets thread
(not HD2 section, just general Android Themes and Apps

Battery current widget is also good.
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Sorry, that's battery monitor widget, not current. It seems to work fine as well.
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Thank you!

However I am getting ~300mA drainage when I turn on the phone w/o doing anything. How do they get 6mA ??? And how to check how much it is when the phone is sleeping ?

The battery monitor widget has a history you can watch, other than that I'm not sure.
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You can set CurrentWidget to update every 60 seconds. Leave the screen off for more than a minute, then check it as soon as you turn the phone back on
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huggs said:
You can set CurrentWidget to update every 60 seconds. Leave the screen off for more than a minute, then check it as soon as you turn the phone back on
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Same with Battery Monitor Widget, actually defaults to refresh data every 60 seconds and save history every 5 minutes, giving you average consumption and much lower battery usage! Which is quite important for such tool, isn't it?
Other than test I've just run some tests and BMW consumes less when set with the same settings! See screen-shot!

Funny one.
I think that maybe these monitoring tools can be the issue of these high drainage things. lol
I had my battery monitoring tool set to 60sec and write it to a log on the sd-card.
Waking up the card and writing to it might might cause these higher values.
Trying to set them to 5 to 10 minutes at this moment to check this theory.

lukesan said:
Funny one.
I think that maybe these monitoring tools can be the issue of these high drainage things. lol
I had my battery monitoring tool set to 60sec and write it to a log on the sd-card.
Waking up the card and writing to it might might cause these higher values.
Trying to set them to 5 to 10 minutes at this moment to check this theory.
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AH wondering the same too
One sure thing at one minute it will keep your phone waking-up all the time... then depends for how long...
On my various tests I always noticed draining pikes at very irregular intervals suggesting another app is also consuming... So I usually end-up setting plane mode to ensure nothing should consume and should get a steady 2 or 3 mA!
Now I'm trying Process Monitor Widget to see who's actually consuming the battery... but the app is still in beta and not yet linked to Battery Monitor Widget... waiting for that!
My last test shows pikes of activities every 30-45 minutes (?), whereas battery shows drainage pikes every 4 to 7 minutes (???)! Still searching...
In there various HTC and Google background process are actives... not sure to what extent yet.
Now testing, same setup and plane mode...

If you're running NAND it's probably the 60mA bug you're seeing --- any Notification (Call/SMS/MMS/Email) will draw 60mA until read.

No high drainage
lukesan said:
Funny one.
I think that maybe these monitoring tools can be the issue of these high drainage things.
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Base on you comment I decided to start testing 2 of those tools: Battery & Process Monitor Widget from the Market.
Phone was in plane mode and apps where recording every minute for 3 hours.
In the first-screen shot you can see drain pikes every 4 minutes (3 to 4) or so... at 6:58, 7:03, 7:07, 7:13, 7:17, 7:20...
You can look at CPU utilization, on other screen-shots, total time shows how much CPU was used during recording per application.
Even thouh the system is in plane mode and there's nothing to run, you can see the Android system running who knows what every 3-5 minutes or so...
I found some explanations with 2 background processes doing who knows what too
For the others it's still a mystery to me. But sure enough some of the drain is due to the monitoring tools...
The 3.48s consumed by the battery monitor is pretty good over a 3 hours recording...
So I will make 2 further tests:
- first with only battery monitoring...
- second monitoring also processes but every 5 minutes

hd2k10 said:
If you're running NAND it's probably the 60mA bug you're seeing --- any Notification (Call/SMS/MMS/Email) will draw 60mA until read.
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I got similar issues with a previous NAND build, that was awful... 50mA minimum in plane mode!?
THen I switch to MDJ's build... see previous post, very good now

ccounotte said:
I got similar issues with a previous NAND build, that was awful... 50mA minimum in plane mode!?
THen I switch to MDJ's build... see previous post, very good now
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Gonna switch to MDJ tonight myself, I've managed to find fixes for everything but the 60mA drain and I'm too anal about performance/battery to let it go any more. Time to switch, unfortunately.

Battery Monitor Widget and Process Monitor Widget
Back again with some more tests!
It turns out that both those widgets don't seem to impact battery drain, at least not in a noticeable manner.
3 tests in plane mode:
Test 1: BMW alone, 1 minute logging interval... steady 2mA!
Test 2: BMW+PMW, 1 minute logging interval... steady 2mA!
Test 3: BMW 1 minute, PMW 10 seconds, steady 2mA!
In all tests phone goes in deep-sleep mode as usual!
I have attached a few screen-shot of test 2
Screen-shot 11 shows CPU frequency during test 2, starting/ending with screen-on interactive, with 2 peaks in between when I switched screen on to visually check mA.
This showed me that the app I'm using to set CPU max frequency to 245MHz during screen-off is not working