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Ok i noticed when the phone is locked, any press of any key on the front activates the screen light, now when the phone is in my pocket will thid be happening all the time, or will the proximity sensor stop the light from activating?
jrvenge said:
Ok i noticed when the phone is locked, any press of any key on the front activates the screen light, now when the phone is in my pocket will thid be happening all the time, or will the proximity sensor stop the light from activating?
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It will activate anytime a button is pressed.
Yeah thats what i said already, but you didnt answer the question about the proximity sensor?
I think he did....
The light will activate when a button is pressed even when in your pocket.
jrvenge said:
Ok i noticed when the phone is locked, any press of any key on the front activates the screen light, now when the phone is in my pocket will thid be happening all the time, or will the proximity sensor stop the light from activating?
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As far as i know, the proximity sensor only works when being on the phone and not when device is using other apps or is locked....
The proximity sensor will only turn off the screen/backlight when you are in a call. It will not turn off the screen/backlight if any buttons are pressed while keylocked in your pocket.
thats just lame!
No it's actually not that lame. Proximity sensor that's always on will be draining your battery.
No so much as pressing the bloody backlight every 2 mins, will need a fix for that, crap.
I think its a nice idea. Im very sure the proximity sensor doesnt drain that much power so you can use it to manage the backlight when in pocket.
on the one hand it would be nice to use that sensor to keep the backlight off while in pocket, but I can't really say I had that problem. When I put my HD2 in the pouch it only turned on the backlight when I pressed the buttons. I can't say it happened while it was in my pocket, every time I took it out of my pocket the backlight was off.
Just cus it was off when you took it out, dont mean you were not activating it on occasions, you cant see it can you?
jrvenge said:
Just cus it was off when you took it out, dont mean you were not activating it on occasions, you cant see it can you?
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with your attitude i`ll be suprised if people keep answering you.
jrvenge said:
No so much as pressing the bloody backlight every 2 mins, will need a fix for that, crap.
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I don't know what you're doing pressing things in your pocket for every 2 minutes, but I suspect that if you get caught doing it in public you'll risk getting arrested.
If it's such a world-shaking problem, write a program to do it yourself, it should be pretty simple. Chop chop.
mr_ray said:
i don't know what you're doing pressing things in your pocket for every 2 minutes, but i suspect that if you get caught doing it in public you'll risk getting arrested.
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ha!ha!
sharpey said:
with your attitude i`ll be suprised if people keep answering you.
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ha!ha!
Unhelpful but amusing...
I am surprised that you are pressing the buttons all the time in your pocket. If the phone is locked (ie press the hang up key once) the screen goes off, and if I touch the screen it doesn't come back on. I have to press a button. Those need a little press to them, so surely not something your leg is doing when the phone is in your pocket. Unless you wear skin tight jeans or something...
3D witch hunt started, forget it....
Yeah, I don't know what their problem is with this question.
It is very easy for the buttons to be pressed while the phone is in your pocket, especially when it is held tightly in the leather case -- any depression along the case will press buttons that are already tightly packed inside the case. This can happen without your hands coming close to your pocket -- it can happen just from the phone shifting in your pocket while you sit up or down, or from your pocket bumping up against a wall or piece of furniture.
There also seems to be a problem with the backlight not turning off automatically until the PIN is entered. So if you accidentally press any button, such as by sitting down and shifting the phone in your pocket, the phone's backlight will stay on forever until you either press the power button or enter the PIN.
Until this issue is fixed, the HD2 is basically useless as a phone for me -- battery life is 4-5 hours max.
Just dicks i guess, obviously their opinion is a better one.
I've been testing this a little now and I am sure that I am presing the "End call" button with my face and dropping calls more now than ever. Maybe it's more sensitive in the new ROM's? Or the light sensor is less sensitive?
Is there a way to get rid of this button or disable it?
I am running DC 2.07.2 with the new radio and PRL 60663.
I was getting that too with DC 2.06. From what I could figure it would be caused by hanging up on the person with the soft end button and not the hard key. That is what I could gather out of the few times that it happened to me.
when you make a call, pull your taskbar down.
thats how i test if its me or the ROM.
Haha, I tried that... but my face pushed "call in progress" and brought me back to the call screen.
Maybe a themer could remove the "end call" button from that screen?
I am really having an issue here. Can anyone suggest a way to disable the soft button?
Download "proximity sensor" from the market.
After you make or answer a call, press the home button to go back to the home screen
doojer said:
I am really having an issue here. Can anyone suggest a way to disable the soft button?
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Well, we don't really have a proximity sensor. BUT you can download the proximity sensor app from the market and that pretty much locks the phone while its in a call. That would be the only thing I can think of.
It does FC when you end a call on the Hero - but it doesn't disable the app, it gets the job done.
Kcarpenter said:
It does FC when you end a call on the Hero - but it doesn't disable the app, it gets the job done.
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I haven't had a problem with Proximity Sensor FC'ing in 2.1. Calls going through at all… Now, that's a problem!
Well, I tried it and it doesn't work at all. Nothing I do makes it go into lock mode.... is my light sensor broken? And could this be from the ROM?
doojer said:
Well, I tried it and it doesn't work at all. Nothing I do makes it go into lock mode.... is my light sensor broken? And could this be from the ROM?
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Could very well be broken from the rom, I haven't tried it in a couple of months. I'll see if I can make it work tonight. I wonder if its open source.
doojer said:
Well, I tried it and it doesn't work at all. Nothing I do makes it go into lock mode.... is my light sensor broken? And could this be from the ROM?
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map your end button to put the phone to sleep or home only.
smoother2010 said:
map your end button to put the phone to sleep or home only.
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If it's possible to re-map the hard button, isn't it possible to remap or break the soft one?
I'd rather keep my hard end button the way it is and disable or re-map the soft one.
Can anyone help? Would a donation move things along?
smoother2010 said:
map your end button to put the phone to sleep or home only.
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...or just push the home button
Sigh........
Well, I had been using Regaw's suggestion of holding down menu and bringing up the keyboard during calls. It was working perfectly as a screen "shield" until a few days ago when it started pushing the screen up instead of covering it. It's so weird, it just randomly started doing that, so I actually am more likely to press the end button with that method now....
I guess I am going to have to get that overbloated "Screen Suite" program to stop this crap, since removing or disabling the soft "End call" button on the call screen does not seem like something that anyone here is capable of doing...
Just updated my wife's Moment yesterday to the leaked 2.1. Her biggest complaint about the phone was that she constantly muted or hung up on other people with either her hair, earring or cheek. Once updated I tried a test called and I couldn't believe that this issue was actually fixed! The mute/end call button now looks just like the vanilla unlock and can't be that easily activated. Not sure if that can be ported over to Hero but it would definitely be great to have.
Maybe just stop mashing the phone hard against your face?
I've never had a problem with this.
^Well, if you've never had a problem, then I don't know why I'm even posting here! Should have asked you first, apparently.
I know plenty of people who have this problem. It sucks.
bubi73 said:
Just updated my wife's Moment yesterday to the leaked 2.1. Her biggest complaint about the phone was that she constantly muted or hung up on other people with either her hair, earring or cheek. Once updated I tried a test called and I couldn't believe that this issue was actually fixed! The mute/end call button now looks just like the vanilla unlock and can't be that easily activated. Not sure if that can be ported over to Hero but it would definitely be great to have.
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Weird, my issue actually got worse when I updated to 2.1 (damage).
(BTW, did you let your wife know that Sawawa has never had this issue? She might want to check with him next time before bothering you about these things.... )
Hi guys,
Got my Desire HD last Friday and I'm really pleased with it, stunning device. The problem is, I'm using a case which protects the phone nicely and looks decent too but the power button is very tough to press in (let alone without a case TBH). I have Cyangens "Menu Unlock" enabled but I'm wondering if there is a tweak or APK to enable the capacitive buttons when the screen is off so I can turn it on easily (using Button Remapper). Maybe even a shake to enable app to wake the phone. Oh, cover below:
When I had the Galaxy S, I could just wake the screen with the main physical Home button.
When I had the Milestone, there was an APK to allow me to wake the screen with the buttons.
Any help or direction would really be appreciated. Would love to be able to unlock it that easily.
Cheers #auggie2k
Just a quick bump
auggie2k said:
Hi guys,
Got my Desire HD last Friday and I'm really pleased with it, stunning device. The problem is, I'm using a case which protects the phone nicely and looks decent too but the power button is very tough to press in (let alone without a case TBH). I have Cyangens "Menu Unlock" enabled but I'm wondering if there is a tweak or APK to enable the capacitive buttons when the screen is off so I can turn it on easily (using Button Remapper). Maybe even a shake to enable app to wake the phone. Oh, cover below:
When I had the Galaxy S, I could just wake the screen with the main physical Home button.
When I had the Milestone, there was an APK to allow me to wake the screen with the buttons.
Any help or direction would really be appreciated. Would love to be able to unlock it that easily.
Cheers #auggie2k
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Buttons will be disabled when phone is asleep. The closest is to try "Tap Tap App" from the Market. Its free. Try and see how it could give you possibilities. Basically, it will allow you to set lock/wake permissions using the proximity sensor.
I use it as an alternative to pressing the power button all the time during shorter phone sleep/wake intervals
Much appreciated Jacob, cheers for the quick reply.
You can try WidgetLocker too, allow you to power up the phone using volume button.
auggie2k said:
Maybe even a shake to enable app to wake the phone.
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now THAT is a cool idea
but, it would drain the battery...
panyan said:
now THAT is a cool idea
but, it would drain the battery...
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Its possible without much battery drain I remember using Pocketshield with the HD2 where it unlocks when you flip the phone facedown and up or shake from side to side. Seems they're still hung up on Windows till now... I hope they come around to turn to Android soon
auggie2k said:
Much appreciated Jacob, cheers for the quick reply.
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You're welcome mate! Test the proximity settings, I used to use "Easy Detection" but found it too sensitive, it unlocks with short finger waves which was cool but also gets screwed up with strong winds when outdoors... lol
Since, I've changed the setting to "safe mode (default)" and it responds well to 2 mild taps. Hope it works for you too!
bryant_16 said:
You can try WidgetLocker too, allow you to power up the phone using volume button.
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only works if u're on stock kernel
try no lock, unlocks it with the volume buttons.
rossysaurus said:
try no lock, unlocks it with the volume buttons.
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isnt this the same as widget locker, i.e. it works only on stock kernel
Just installed "Tap Tap App", works perfect for me as an alternative unlock/lock. Thanks a lot!
Jacob1369 said:
Buttons will be disabled when phone is asleep. The closest is to try "Tap Tap App" from the Market. Its free. Try and see how it could give you possibilities. Basically, it will allow you to set lock/wake permissions using the proximity sensor.
I use it as an alternative to pressing the power button all the time during shorter phone sleep/wake intervals
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Jacob1369 said:
You're welcome mate! Test the proximity settings, I used to use "Easy Detection" but found it too sensitive, it unlocks with short finger waves which was cool but also gets screwed up with strong winds when outdoors... lol
Since, I've changed the setting to "safe mode (default)" and it responds well to 2 mild taps. Hope it works for you too!
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Those settings work perfectly for me too, it makes the phone seem so much more "fancy" and has already spooked my poor iPhone owning friend, lots of WTF's Cheers for the suggestion.
auggie2k said:
Those settings work perfectly for me too, it makes the phone seem so much more "fancy" and has already spooked my poor iPhone owning friend, lots of WTF's Cheers for the suggestion.
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lol... I was doing the exact same thing to my buddies with an iP4
Hey, do any of you have a problem with the power button? More specifically, when I try to wake the phone, instead of using the knock knock feature, u sometime press the power button. What happens is, the screen turns on, and then immediately after 1-2 sec turns off again. It seems that I only can turn the screen on by using knock knock
KaZyKa said:
Hey, do any of you have a problem with the power button? More specifically, when I try to wake the phone, instead of using the knock knock feature, u sometime press the power button. What happens is, the screen turns on, and then immediately after 1-2 sec turns off again. It seems that I only can turn the screen on by using knock knock
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It does that when the proximity (right next to the front speaker on the top front, to the left) is covered, so it doesn't turn on in your pocket. It's a safety feature. So it has to be completly clear before you press the power button.
A bad screenprotector can cause it to happen.
virtual-aidz said:
It does that when the proximity (right next to the front speaker on the top front, to the left) is covered, so it doesn't turn on in your pocket. It's a safety feature. So it has to be completly clear before you press the power button.
A bad screenprotector can cause it to happen.
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I have no screenprotector, and I held the phone in may hand. I choose to restart the phone and it helped.
KaZyKa said:
I have no screenprotector, and I held the phone in may hand. I choose to restart the phone and it helped.
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Yay, proximity sensors just sometimes **** up. It used to do on my old phone. I thought they had fixed that long time ago though, hence I didn't mention that possibility.
Good you fixed it!
KaZyKa said:
I have no screenprotector, and I held the phone in may hand. I choose to restart the phone and it helped.
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Same thing happens to my phone and it bugs the sh*t out of me. There better be a fix soon for this.
It's just due to the proximity sensor. Nothing to be worried about.
So how does the proximity sensor error work exactly? if it detects low light (like being in a pocket) it won't let you unlock? Wouldn't that mess up unlocking in the dark?
xstewiegriffinx said:
So how does the proximity sensor error work exactly? if it detects low light (like being in a pocket) it won't let you unlock? Wouldn't that mess up unlocking in the dark?
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It's a light detector AND proximity sensor.
Uses the light for the screen light (auto brightness)
The proximity sensor checks if there is something covering the screen. (like being in your pocket)
When i try to lock or take screenshot, camera app opens
Dextor69 said:
When i try to lock or take screenshot, camera app opens
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You can try disabling "jump to camera".
kopitalk said:
You can try disabling "jump to camera".
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Wile that option turn off my screen blink wile locking and i have to try 2-3 time to take screenshot because of that "hardware issue"
Dextor69 said:
Wile that option turn off my screen blink wile locking and i have to try 2-3 time to take screenshot because of that "hardware issue"
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Most probably your power button is faulty.
kopitalk said:
Most probably your power button is faulty.
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Yes so i visited service center and they flashed nougat and tried to convince me its software issue
Yup same here. Its been going on for 3-4 days and is really annoying me. I think there's something wrong with the button
Dextor69 said:
When i try to lock or take screenshot, camera app opens
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I had the same issue. It was due to an option "double tap power button" to wake up camera app (I have activated it in nougat) that wasn't present in oreo. I donwgraded to Nougat with a custom rom and no more problem, it was a software issue. It was very annoying, I have used Nova launcher and the option double tap to sleep in order to not use the button.
For me it was an issue with Oreo due to a dirty flash upgrade.
lelozerien said:
I had the same issue. It was due to an option "double tap power button" to wake up camera app (I have activated it in nougat) that wasn't present in oreo. I donwgraded to Nougat with a custom rom and no more problem, it was a software issue. It was very annoying, I have used Nova launcher and the option double tap to sleep in order to not use the button.
For me it was an issue with Oreo due to a dirty flash upgrade.
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Oreo also have that option(search 'camera" in settings), but on single press it opens camera, that's the problem
Happens sometimes, the physical buttons are pretty bad, they get so squishy after some time. Just disable the double tap for camera, or just return it, it's probably still in warranty and it's acting faulty...
Dextor69 said:
Oreo also have that option(search 'camera" in settings), but on single press it opens camera, that's the problem
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Yes that's the problem because when the gesture is activated before the upgrade it's impossible to desactivate it.
The problem disappears with the downgrade.
For me it wasn't a hardware issue, it was a software issue due to a mismatch between nougat and oreo gesture for activating camera with the power button.
No problem with my power button now and I will never activate this gesture again!!!! :laugh:
lelozerien said:
Yes that's the problem because when the gesture is activated before the upgrade it's impossible to desactivate it.
The problem disappears with the downgrade.
For me it wasn't a hardware issue, it was a software issue due to a mismatch between nougat and oreo gesture for activating camera with the power button.
No problem with my power button now and I will never activate this gesture again!!!! :laugh:
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Still don't you feel uncomfortable? That you got defective power button?
Dextor69 said:
Still don't you feel uncomfortable? That you got defective power button?
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No more problem with the button. It works perfectly now. I've never had a defective button, for me it was a software issue solved by a downgrade.
I'm agree with the sevice center who tried to convice you. It has happened to me exactly the same situation that you describe and it's solved now.
I've the same issue. Discovered it with Oreo January and it is still present in Orea February Update.
Its definitely a hardware issue
The people saying that the problem was fixed after they disabled the gesture fail to understand that the fault in the gesture is the external manifestation of a larger problem which resides in the power button hardware. The only sustainable solution to this issue, involves root and/or custom roms. If you want to know more, reply to this quote.
PS: The service centres also tried to convince me that it is a software issue, and flash nougat over my los15.1.
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If you want to know more, reply to this quote.
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pls give me more information about how to fix this issue
Dextor69 said:
When i try to lock or take screenshot, camera app opens
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The power button on this phone is a little bit flimsy. Too many phones have this issue and the only workaround is to disable a camera shortcut as offered earlier.
The service center fixed same problem for me by replacing one part. You can replace it by yourself, if you brave enough: https://aliexpress.com/item/for-Xia...Switch-Flex-Cable-for-Xiaomi/32848157799.html
Disassembly video. It's pretty easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXo-7CZzpGM
its a hardware issue, the power button is flimsy, i believe its more because of the button themselves then the button circuits as mentioned in the post above.
I thought it is hardware issue but then i realise that volume buttons are also having something same issue and works multiple times pressed once or somtimes volume decrease but no volume pannel.
So, the only way to fix I need to disassembly the phone? Service Center will not fix it?
Thanks