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Hey all,
I've been tossing up for weeks between the two, and it's driving me nuts.
Any suggestions, comments or recommendations?
To give you some background, my main quarrels are:
Touch HD
- No hardware keyboard
- Much lower video quality
Xperia
- Much smaller screen (on this point, can anyone tell me whether or not the size difference makes a significant difference to web browsing? although the resolution is the same, the actual physical display makes a difference, so you would have to zoom in anyway on the xperia)
- Resistive touchscreen
Any thoughts?
charbz said:
Hey all,
I've been tossing up for weeks between the two, and it's driving me nuts.
Any suggestions, comments or recommendations?
To give you some background, my main quarrels are:
Touch HD
- No hardware keyboard
- Much lower video quality
Xperia
- Much smaller screen (on this point, can anyone tell me whether or not the size difference makes a significant difference to web browsing? although the resolution is the same, the actual physical display makes a difference, so you would have to zoom in anyway on the xperia)
- Resistive touchscreen
Any thoughts?
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There are MANY threads already that go into great detail about this. Use the search function on the top menu line and let google do the searching. Search for 'hd vs x1' or something like that, and you'll have a multitude of xda forums to look through. Good luck!
Use the searchoption...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500029
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Fallen Spartan said:
There are MANY threads already that go into great detail about this. Use the search function on the top menu line and let google do the searching. Search for 'hd vs x1' or something like that, and you'll have a multitude of xda forums to look through. Good luck!
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I've been doing so, for a very long time now. I've owned a tytn and a kaiser, for which I sampled a great range of roms - the flashing and troubleshooting of which I learned on my own through extensive research, reading and experimentation.
I've never asked any stupid questions, nor have I asked anything which I didn't feel was a necessary question for me to move forward.
I've done google search upon google search upon google search, and nothing seems to really give me a down to earth, practical answer. I'm at the point where I'm rereading reviews, forum posts and video reviews.
Sure there may be many answers to many questions, but I still haven't found the answer I want presented in a clear, concise manner (and no, "answer I want" doesn't mean "what I want to hear", but rather "hitting the nail on the head").
I've been tossing up for a long time - and this involves a whole heap of research.
Any help from people who've been using either or both for a decent amount of time would be greatly appreciated.
charbz said:
I've been doing so, for a very long time now. I've owned a tytn and a kaiser, for which I sampled a great range of roms - the flashing and troubleshooting of which I learned on my own through extensive research, reading and experimentation.
I've never asked any stupid questions, nor have I asked anything which I didn't feel was a necessary question for me to move forward.
I've done google search upon google search upon google search, and nothing seems to really give me a down to earth, practical answer. I'm at the point where I'm rereading reviews, forum posts and video reviews.
Sure there may be many answers to many questions, but I still haven't found the answer I want presented in a clear, concise manner (and no, "answer I want" doesn't mean "what I want to hear", but rather "hitting the nail on the head").
I've been tossing up for a long time - and this involves a whole heap of research.
Any help from people who've been using either or both for a decent amount of time would be greatly appreciated.
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Ok, so you say you have done your research. Hasn't it occurred to you that there are some threads where people have said they own both at some stage or still have both for example xmoo on this thread
Why not PM these people if your aren't getting your answer and ask them nicely why they exchanged one for the other or why they are going back to one etc etc etc
What exactly did you type into your search, because that's the first time I've seen that thread.
My apologies for the inconvenience, although I can genuinely say that I've put a lot of effort into finding infomation in general... I ain't noob posting (intentionally anyway).
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What exactly did you type into your search, because that's the first time I've seen that thread.
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Just typed in a mixture of different search options i.e. Xperia X1, Touch HD, Touch HD Vs Xperia X1, hd vs x1, etc etc etc
Not sure which one it popped up in!
May also be due to date thread started and when you did your searches
using AND between words when one search makes sure it only give results where both search terms are included
Thanks for your advice and timely responses guys.
I pm'd the guy with Touch HD issues and am waiting on a reply now - good idea. I'm going to keep doing some reading, and if anything out of the ordinary pops up, I'll report back here, just so that this thread is at least somewhat constructive.
charbz said:
Hey all,
I've been tossing up for weeks between the two, and it's driving me nuts.
Any suggestions, comments or recommendations?
To give you some background, my main quarrels are:
Touch HD
- No hardware keyboard
- Much lower video quality
Xperia
- Much smaller screen (on this point, can anyone tell me whether or not the size difference makes a significant difference to web browsing? although the resolution is the same, the actual physical display makes a difference, so you would have to zoom in anyway on the xperia)
- Resistive touchscreen
Any thoughts?
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On the touch HD, I can type at a moderate pace with the on screen keyboard, also the T9 give input suggestions so texting is pretty fast.
To be honest I hate the camera on the HD, it just is slow and not worth a damn dime(either the quality is really bad in low light conditions or it so slow that I missed a lot of special moments, kids just don't stand still if you know what I mean), would be much better if they implement a good and fast 3.2 megapixels sensor than a slow 5 megapixels one.
I had a couple of hours with an xperia till I finally decided that I didn't like it at all. Its all personal perceptions, but the panels interface felt really sluggish, its one of the very first batch so it could have been fixed by now. It didn't have the accelerometer so you have to flip out the keyboard to get it to landscape mode and no games like resco bubles or teeter.
The experia didn't came with opera but instead uses the sluggisch internet explorer, I thoroughly hated the internet experience, it was slow and pages didn't load properly if they load at all. The screen was wide but so small you need a magnefying glass to read it.
The keyboard felt cramp and didn't give any good feedback, I would not suggest using it for a prolongue period of time on it or you might develop RSI in your thumbs.
I really wanted to like it cause I had good experience with SE, it looks stylish and has a slide out keyboard that is slightedly tilted, but the small screen is a big turn off, never regretted getting the HD over the xperia.
Both have resistive touch screens
The difference is that the one in xperia is "recessed"
I prefer the Touch HD because of the bigger screen.
It is great to the web (here the size is very important), videos, etc...
The video quality is also very good! (after converting using a program in this forum)
I would choose the Touch HD.
For me the physical keyboard isn't so important...
And the Xperia doesn't have accelerometer.
Welcome to the wonderful hospitality of XDA developers, were you must never voice your "subjective opinions" or ask what individuals may "deem" as a daft question. Course the Irony is in the time it takes to moan an moan about a question, it could have been answered in half the time with a poilite
"oh by the way i found this by searching the forums, might save you a bit of time next time hay, an save duplicate threads! bye for now!"
but anyway
Touch HD, i wouldnt jump up an down about video quality being bad, with the last few Dutty ROMs 2.4-2.6 ive been able to play back xvids and H264 videos without the need for converting them with perfect playback, the interface is smooth and very plesent to use, the keyboard is fine to use, if you have big fingers then turn it on its side. The only thing on this device that is trully crap is the camera, its very slow (all be it slightly better on latest Dutty ROMS) quality is good, but the time from click to megabytes is way too long
I found the X1 to be quite shoddy on the build quality front, the keyboard which i thought was going to be amazing from the reviews wasnt that good but by no means bad, overall, i got the X1, didnt like it, flogged it off on Ebay then used that money to by an HD and ive never looked back.
Wow! No regrets whatsoever in asking the question! Thanks for the great feedback guys, this is exactly what i've been looking for! Touch hd it is! I can't accept my webbrowsing on a screen which isn't practical, and i guess that's what my main problem was now that i think back to it.
Thanks again everyone!
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Touch hd it is! I can't accept my webbrowsing on a screen which isn't practical, and i guess that's what my main problem was now that i think back to it.
Thanks again everyone!
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Good decision IMHO! I owned the Xperia X1a for 2 months and although I highly commend its build quality, great screen, and even like the panels (although never found much use for them), I concluded the screen is just too small for me -- I now have the THD and love it! I believe the key parameters for such a decision (and when the Touch Pro 2 vs Touch Diamond 2 come out this will arise again) are: do I need a keyboard, which is more important - room on the screen (size of the things on it) or size in my pocket ---- THD suits me very well.
Okay, I'm seriously looking into getting a HD2 next month, however some of the negatives about this device concern me.
For one the speed doesn't always seem to be up to scratch compared to other Snapdragon devices (though it sports the same processor). Is it really that much of an issue? Is the HD2 still fast enough for most/all tasks? Also I've seen keyboard lag mentioned a fair bit too, a small issue, or not?
The next issue would be the pink hue I've seen on just about every sample image from the HD2, I know this is an ongoing thing and no one seems to have narrowed it down to either a software or hardware fault. Is it really that bad? Also I've seen very little shots from the HD2 that look even decent quality.
Thirdly is Windows Mobile, now I am aware of a lot of people that prefer Windows Mobile to Android, but again is it really that much of a deal breaker? I see a lot of people saying the HD2 hardware with an Android would be a match made in heaven, and that concerns me as I do not want to be left disappointed.
Basically I would like some views from both sides and someone to confirm whether this truly is the best phone I could buy, or whether I should look elsewhere, taking the above issues into account.
Thanks.
Hey,
I hope to get my HD2 next week but I have had some play time with a Demo unit and it was super fast and very smooth, think Iphone but much better. To quote comic book guy “Best phone ever” well in my opinion anyway.
I would always pick WM over Android, you can do so much more with WM.
There does seem to be a small but vocal group who are hell bent on making the HD2 out to be a bad phone or in some way crippled by HTC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583618
Hmm, have one now for over a week:
1. Speed - really fast and better than iphone, especially when you take into account the multiple applications at once.
2. Keyboard lag - super fast, could actually do with a slow down !
3. Pink hue - no idea about that, my screen is really excellent
4. WM vs Android - no comment, WM has been around for longer
Obviously I wasn't clear with the pink hue, I was meaning a pink hue in photo's taken with the HD2's Camera.
But thanks for the reassurance guys, keep 'em coming.
Oh, I see what "pink hue" is from your view now.
Well, HTC have never really been able to make super a quality camera function. But, the HD2 camera is OK and quick. I have not noticed a pink hue but I also would not claim to be an image expert. Nice thing on the HD2 (compared to the HD) is finally a LED flash.
But, I doubt anyone buys this as a top quality camera and, of course, no one buys an iphone as a camera either !
I'll have a play with some flash images - it would not surprise me if the LED is screwing up the colour balance.
Thanks for that Dave. I'm still very much undecided, to be honest I was 100% for getting the HD2 till I read some of the problems on the forum here. Now I'm not so sure.
The problem with reading problems on a forum is that for the most part, that's what most people come on a forum to do. Nowhere for even the most amazing device will you find more "wow" posts than "omg it sucks" posts. The majority are from people who didn't research their purchase properly. Even for what is supposed to be a developer-centric site, there is an enormous number of ignorant and unintelligent people.
It's a fantastic device, and the performance is so far ahead of my previous WM devices it's not funny. The pink middle on photos is a problem that seems to be affecting a few units (not mine), but it'll either be fixed by a ROM update or else according to HTC you can return for a replacement.
WM vs. Android is a completely personal choice. You might as well ask us what colour shoes you should wear. What do YOU prefer?
I read many post before buying the HD2, most probably I was in the same state of mind you are.
Having done a huge mistake with the SEX1, I risked my money on another WM. Have to say I'm more than pleased with this beast.
It's fast, very fast, had a ton of applications which were sucking out a lot of memory and not in one instance had I experienced lag. It was only when I went in Task manager that I realised how many applications were running. Apparently, the applications will only close when the required memory exceeds the available memory, I stand to be corrected.
Reception is excellent, far better than my SEX1.
Sound quality is impressive, again far better than the SEX1. My system volume is set at 55% and when playing music on the speaker the sound quality is very good and quite loud. Apparently when the phone senses that it's in a case it automatically increases the volume, you defo won't be having problems there.
Battery life is an issue, but it could well give you a day, for me it's not a decisive issue as the phone is connected to the pc every evening.
Camera could have been better, but then again its a phone, and hence all phones, be it 5,9,12 megapixel, will never be excellent photo takers.
Overall, I think that this phone deserves 8/10. It could well be improved with some ROM updates but the GUI, Manilla, is excellent. I love it!!
I have just recently ditched my Google G1. Whilst I enjoyed Android, I think that the Sense GUI on the HD2 is a lot better. The screen is just miles, miles better.
I was worried about the text input side of things - I have always preferred hard keyboards hence the G1. But having got used to the soft keypad of the HD2 I think it is fab.
Overall (and so far!) I would give the HD 2 a rather fantastic 9/10....LOVE IT!
Thanks for all the positive feedback guys. I guess I still really need to think this through, but I think your input will make the decision easier.
Hello
I've used HTC for years since opening my eyes past the Nokia and Sony Ericsson stuff so had the Vario 2 and 3 and then loved the touch hd (blackstone). Finally went for an Android with the release of the Hero as it got such rave reviews and phone of the year etc...
Basically it depends what your priorities are to be honest. My overview of the phones are these:
HERO = Great user friendly device with simple layout, all makes sense and is easy to use and does everything well although nothing is outstanding. Great allround phone for the medium - high end user. Apps are unbeatable for ideas, functionality, price (or lack of as hundreds possibly thousands are free!) and generally GOOD phone. Fun, functional and well priced. Camera is naff!
HD2 = Not so user friendly although it makes sense to the experienced user but very serious piece of kit. Not as fun but very customisable and powerful, superb speed, good amount of cabs out there and assistance from some of the geniuses knocking around on this site etc. They can help you do pretty much anything you want to it. I personally love this phone more than any other phone i've ever used but i like the windows thing even though the marketplace is a con and expensive and very empty still (i know it's newish but they shouldve at least launched with a decent selection ready for people as incentive!). The screen is outstanding, the camera is much better now that HTC have discovered that Flashes exist! Still not on a par with Samsung or Sonys but its a balance in a product so priorities again. The Sense and Touchflo is great, future rom potentials is there too.
If you want a gimmicky (although good) app based fun phone get the Hero, if you want a serious power-smartphone get the HD2 and customise away.
HTC are such a great non mainstream company (in Joe Publics eyes not us gadget lovers) but i feel with phones like the Hero they really are gonna be a main player in less than 3 years as long as they keep their superb efforts up!!!
Good luck!
Well this thread has been very useful to read I'm trying to decide between iphone 3GS or HTC touch HD2. Would love to find a phone that doesn't lag ...
Do people still feel the same way 3 months later - have HTC come out and fixed any problems? Does the HD2 start to lag after its been in use for a while - or is it still really smooth for people?
Sorry if there are other threads that answer these questions ... links to any similar discussions would be good if that's the case.
I have been reading threads dedicated for Galaxy S for the past 2 weeks seeing only disappointed people complaining for various things/bugs/problems, that almost none applied for my personal case.
Thinking that this is very unfair for the specific phone (my opinion after using it 2 weeks now), I would like to just check how many users are happy with the device...
Personally, I have NO problem with GPS fix (navigated a lot through cities and national roads in Greece, Athens and Piraeus), and my phone is not laggy at all. I currently use the phone a lot for various reasons (gaming, e-mails, browsing, navigating, etc), and I really can't find any bug that would make me think of changing the device.
Is it just me? I am using the stock rom version XXJF3...
I've not experienced any lag or GPS issues. That could just be me and you though!
I upgraded to FroYo a day after I got it and I couldn't be happier. Im glad I didn't get a Desire now. This screen is just so... amazing!
I'm also still on the official firmware and I also consider myself a satisfied customer.( At least for now - you only know how good a product really was until after you're done using it in 2 years or so, right?)
Anyway, I DO have the lag issue. It's just that I have it under control by (sadly) using a task killer , and compared to other mobiles on the market, the galaxy s still does the best job for me.
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i came from the nightmare that is the Desire and its atrocious battery life and the stupid htc bug of "no trickle-charge".
The SGS has been one of the best phones i've had. The lag issue is there for me and i dont have an external sd to try out the mimocan fix... but even then the superb reception, awesome screen and great battery life make it a deadly combo.
GPS also works fine for me on JM2 rooted.
I must say that I'm very happy with my SGS, and I'm sure that some posters just post negative comments to wind people up.
I was amazed to read today that one poster was claiming that Samsung would never release 2.2, while in the dev forum for the SGS people are posting their impressiopns of the pre-release 2.2 from Samsung.
There is one poster who can be found on any thread relating to GPS, complaining about his experiences, but I have found that once I worked out how to use it, my map positioning works well without any modifications from how it came out of the box.
I can only say that anything that I have tried on my SGS has worked once I have sorted the right way to do it, and while I can accept that there are problems, I have faith that Samsung and the experts on this forum will soilve them.
Im also very happy with my SGS! Best phone I have ever used. I do have the same bugs as others i.e "lags" (although I have never experienced 10 second long stalls more like 2-3 second hickups) and since using luncher pro the stalls are much better.
I think the SGS is a coupple of firmware updates from beeing perfect.
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I have had my phone for 2 weeks, went from JF3 to JG5 & now JM2 rooted with SD fix, as it is at the moment it is extremely fast for a Smartphone & I am very happy with what it is capable of, I may even hold off on froyo if the speeds arnt as good as what I get now.
Also I like playing, and having a phone that is very hackable and pretty much unbrickable is a godsend when trying stuff out. Had a couple of scarey moments but its all fun
I am using the phone for the past 10 days and didn't much to complain about it.
Intially there was a problem installing the kies and detecting the phone but it was resolved in a matter for 10mins by googling. After 10days of experience I have no complains and very happy with this piece from Samsung. Although havn't worked much with the GPS (Bandwith issues - India) but no lags (>2sec - if any). Works really well with games and sound quality is awesome.
True Fan for SGS...
Cheers Samsun!!
Gotta admit, I wasn't thrilled with it to say the least when I first got it, but I'm now happy with it as it is (JM2, rooted, EXT4 hack, autokiller). Runs fast and is nice to use, and I think definitely as good as an iphone 4 which was the other phone I was considering at the time. Shame, the apps aren't better but thats not the phones fault.
Remember everyone, there's a HUGE amount of happy campers with any device. iPhone 4, Samsung Galaxy S, etc. It's usually the minority comprised of nitpickers, enthusiasts, and people with genuine problems that fill up forums like this.
Oh, I'm part of the enthusiast group I think.
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There are always idiots moaning - especially on Xda - it's like a magnet for the morose maudling naysayer - poor boys - cry into your pints. I think it's an excellent device - that screen and it's sheer grunt have it stand well apart from the competition - let's see some developers get behind this and make the games, media and applications (for that is their true label, not that propogated by the narcissistic fool known as Jobs)
It's the potential for excellent gaming which I think we'll see in the future on Android that I think will propel this - it already has excellent Sound, Video playback, GPS (I've never had any problems - the fix is quick and accurate), camera is great - get a grip - it's the convergance device I wanted.
Pop a 32GB MicroSD in and on top of the 8GB / 16GB already on the device you have 40 - 48 GB storage - in other words, loads of Multimedia be it Books, Albums, Films, Magazines, Applications - whatever
So, well done to Samsung - let's see Froyo in a timely manner as promised (not another **** up like those idiots at HTC; yes I had a Hero)
Enjoy my son - Ignore the idiots - I do and usually go much further by having many laughs at their expense - schadenfreude ? Definately !!!
S xx
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I think it is going a bit far to call people trying to work through some issues with the phone "idiots". When I go to a forum I want to see both the good points and the bad points and I like the fact that xda does have people that find the bad things in phones and try and work on solutions for them. I would hardly call those people idiots as you are.
I think a bit of balance is a good thing and we don't really need the name calling do we? If you are old enough to make it to the forums then surely you are old enough not to have to resort to insults on other members especially in a thread about happy people, you dont sound too happy
As for the phone, I came from the nexus and I do like it a lot, I do have some issues but the positives definitely outweigh the negatives so I am holding on to it for now because its the best android device so far in my opinion.
Screen is definitely awesome, loving the accuracy compared to the nexus and the ability to see it easier in sunny conditions and of course the size of the screen, 4 inches i think is about as big as I would want it, just the right size.
Loving the dlna abilities to stream movies off a media player in the house etc and have the horsepower to actually watch them .
Likewise I think the comments are a little unfair. You invaraibly find more people with issues on forums than those without, it is after all the sensible place to look for support.
I do have issues with mine, but at the same time I'm pretty happy it. I suspect I'll be one of the first in line for the Galaxy Tab too when it comes out as I like the idea of the same device with a larger screen for home browsing.
My GPS is working fine. Had lag with stock FW (JG3), but with JM2 and now JP3 it has been working great.
Only issue I have using JP3 is that I drop 3G connection sometimes when setting it to WCDMA mode only, so I had to go back to using auto mode instead which is no biggie.
I live in area with very bad reception, and I'm lucky to get one bar showing on all phones I tried and many times get dropped calls, but so far with the SGS that happened only once. My USB 3G modem almost never found a proper 3G connection even if I tried placing it optimally, but the SGS often gives me 3G and 3G+ without looking for a good spot.
My battery life is about double compared to what I would have expected.
Reading this forum I get the impression I'm somewhat lucky, but IMO it's a very awesome phone!
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There are always idiots moaning - especially on Xda - it's like a magnet for the morose maudling naysayer - poor boys - cry into your pints. I think it's an excellent device - that screen and it's sheer grunt have it stand well apart from the competition - let's see some developers get behind this and make the games, media and applications (for that is their true label, not that propogated by the narcissistic fool known as Jobs)
It's the potential for excellent gaming which I think we'll see in the future on Android that I think will propel this - it already has excellent Sound, Video playback, GPS (I've never had any problems - the fix is quick and accurate), camera is great - get a grip - it's the convergance device I wanted.
Pop a 32GB MicroSD in and on top of the 8GB / 16GB already on the device you have 40 - 48 GB storage - in other words, loads of Multimedia be it Books, Albums, Films, Magazines, Applications - whatever
So, well done to Samsung - let's see Froyo in a timely manner as promised (not another **** up like those idiots at HTC; yes I had a Hero)
Enjoy my son - Ignore the idiots - I do and usually go much further by having many laughs at their expense - schadenfreude ? Definately !!!
S xx
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Wait a second, you criticise HTC, but wasn't it Samsung who eventually had to backtrack when they couldn't go beyond Android 1.6 for the Behold?
You fail to miss as well, the 8 Gig or 16 Gig phone you buy has two gig less for multimedia and storage because it is partitioned to install Applications, so you're really buying 6 Gig or 14 Gig. That wasn't in the fine print.
Although the phone has 512 Meg RAM, you cannot use it, and even the leaked Froyo builds you cannot access the full 512 Meg RAM (ie it doesn't show as a total anywhere).
The lags are very real, but some people live with them. The suggestion is that the phone has two different types of memory, one sequential and one random access, and the lag is caused by some random data being on the sequential area. Other fixes involve not used vfat but partitioning an area of your sdcard to ext3.
Doubt the GPS issues all you like, call me an idiot, whatever, just take a look at this and tell me my GPS is working without a problem:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...2.494749,-1.744981&spn=0.007447,0.022724&z=16
I don't use GPS, so that's had no impact on me whatsoever.
I was surprised to see the number of people complaining about lag and 10 second stalls, as I never experienced anything that severe on the stock Optus firmware. At most, it was 2-3 seconds when opening or closing an app, pretty much exactly what happens normally on my previous phone (HTC Hero).
Basically, I believe for anyone not into the rooting / rom scene who's unaware of XDA they probably have no clue that there's even a problem with the firmware on their phones. I sure didn't until I was informed I should be unhappy.
After mimocan's fix my phone flies, and I really couldn't be happier. I'm loving playing NOVA far faster than on my iPod Touch 2nd gen and the screen is drop-dead gorgeous for videos. The contrast and black levels are so good I'm actually only using black as my wallpaper which makes my minimalist widgets appear to be floating on black glass, causing my friends to do a double-take (hiding the top bar in Launcher Pro or ADW makes this effect even more pronounced). It really makes it look like the entire front surface on the phone is the screen since the edges aren't visible.
The only thing I would have liked is some nicer case material(s), as it doesn't 'feel' anywhere near as much of the premium device it is compared to the Desire's soft-touch plastics and aluminium.
For the record, I thought I'd hate Touchwiz but I don't mind it at all since the changes are minimal from stock Android. I do use Launcher Pro and ADW thought simply to enable 5 rows on the homescreens however.
I have a great phone now but only after flash+root+lagfix+launcher pro+autokiller. That's a bit much to ask an average customer. Samsung did a horrible job releasing this phone the way they did, the hardware is really nice but the software is ****e.
Most people who are healthy don't go to the hospital.
This forum is where the sick come to play.
I think the poster is an idiot, myself.The premise for the thread is sound, but the attitude and opinion is laughable.
I am very happy with the phone - I do not have problems with lag though it has gotten a bit slower now I have added more apps, I dont find myself bothered by it, but like the other person who posted the GPS track, my GPS is not usable for the purpose of recording tracks at all.
Initially I called Samsung and was told "there is no problem, its normal behaviour" - at this point, I had very little choice but to publicise the issue to add my voice to the MANY that have GPS problems.
This thread seeks to marginalise people with genuine problems, and is selfish and unnecessary with respect to being part of the solution.
What do you (people with phones that are fine) lose by the threads complaining of problems?
What is to be gained by NOT publicising the problems? (Hint: Nothing, for those affected...)
I am of the opinion those that have no problems DO NOT use the devices to record tracks. Many seem to be able to navigate with the GPS as it doesnt get too whacked out for long, but for recording a track its useless (see previous link). Having said that, I have struggled to get a sat fix when driving too, so been unable to navigate (and got lost as a result).
If the thread stuck to positives, instead of itself being negative, you would have me here singing praises for the good things too. But instead, I am just annoyed at your insensitivity for those that paid good money for a product that doesn't meet expectations.
Love the phone, and I had both the HD2 and Desire, as I am an HTC fan, and I chose the SGS over the two. No problems with the GPS, but there is one thing that bugs me and I tried to find a solution for it, videos with AAC audio get out of sync, only with JG5 the problem seems to be minimal.
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I think the poster is an idiot, myself.The premise for the thread is sound, but the attitude and opinion is laughable.
I am very happy with the phone - I do not have problems with lag though it has gotten a bit slower now I have added more apps, I dont find myself bothered by it, but like the other person who posted the GPS track, my GPS is not usable for the purpose of recording tracks at all.
Initially I called Samsung and was told "there is no problem, its normal behaviour" - at this point, I had very little choice but to publicise the issue to add my voice to the MANY that have GPS problems.
This thread seeks to marginalise people with genuine problems, and is selfish and unnecessary with respect to being part of the solution.
What do you (people with phones that are fine) lose by the threads complaining of problems?
What is to be gained by NOT publicising the problems? (Hint: Nothing, for those affected...)
I am of the opinion those that have no problems DO NOT use the devices to record tracks. Many seem to be able to navigate with the GPS as it doesnt get too whacked out for long, but for recording a track its useless (see previous link). Having said that, I have struggled to get a sat fix when driving too, so been unable to navigate (and got lost as a result).
If the thread stuck to positives, instead of itself being negative, you would have me here singing praises for the good things too. But instead, I am just annoyed at your insensitivity for those that paid good money for a product that doesn't meet expectations.
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I don't think it's anything wrong with threads that complain about the problems. It's obvious that there are a lot of users experiencing issues, and if I was one of them I would be angry and discuss the issues as well.
What really bothers me is that when I respond with comments about not having an issue, there are some users that will assume that it's because I'm clueless or dumb. You do it as well when you say "those that have no problems DO NOT use the devices to record tracks". And in the same post you talk about OP marginalizing users with problems?
I have been navigating in the terrain using GPSCompassMap and MyTracks. I haven't had a need to save tracks, but the other day I made a recording with GPSCompassMap when I was driving just because I got fed up with that kind of accusations.
When posting that I'm told that it must been a lucky day or that I happened to have ideal conditions...basically being accused of being a liar since I clearly stated that it's normal performance for me.
I don't get locks on satellites with SNR <20 or more than 8 sats, but it still works.
I really don't get what causes some users to lash out at anyone that does not have problems and call them idiots or liars.
I know it's hard to make any sense of things, since there doesn't seem to be any common denominator explaining why some users have a completely useless GPS and some have one that is working fine.
But it's the same with the lag and battery life as well...some people experience issues and some not, and while it's a bit more common the issue is nailed down to a particular FW or software with those, it's still not 100% clear why there are such differences how users experience the device.
I have been reading a ton of reviews on the X10, and am thinking about getting one. However, I have some questions about it that can only seemed to be answered by everyday users and not tech blog critics, and was wondering if you can help me sort out some doubts. Especially when the 2.1 Update just come out and the critics haven't properly reviewed it yet.
- How is the battery life? Several places on the internet says the battery life is horrible. I am secretly hoping that there are also people who love the battery life that just haven't given it a shout yet. I don't mind charging it once per day, but can it survive through at least 4 hours of music playing, about 50 texts, 1 hour of call with 3G turned on at all times for one day?
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength? Would you still be able to hear it ring in a busy citycenter?
- Is TimeScape THAT useful? Do you use it, or do you use the native messaging app?
- Keyboard - GSMArena says the 2.1 update helped a lot. Your thoughts?
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? What would you have gotten instead?
I know I sounded annoying - please give in just any input. Thanks a lot in advanced!
I work for a cellular company, and really use the Internet a lot on 3G/HSPA. And I have 9GB of music playing nonstop. The battery lasts about 5-7 hours. I always have a spare battery available to last the day.
The ring/buzz is not very loud. I often have missed calls.
Timescape is more usable with 2.1.
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I have been using the X10 since April 26th and I think it is a great device with one fairly major flaw. The in-call volume is ridiculously low even at maximum level. It has been reported to SE since release and has not improved at all over the course of two software updates. It's my belief that the hardware is inadequate to raise the volume and users will be forced to live with it.
- How is the battery life? Several places on the internet says the battery life is horrible. I am secretly hoping that there are also people who love the battery life that just haven't given it a shout yet. I don't mind charging it once per day, but can it survive through at least 4 hours of music playing, about 50 texts, 1 hour of call with 3G turned on at all times for one day?
Battery life was abysmal to start, improved on R2 firmaware and has improved again on the 2.1 update.
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength? Would you still be able to hear it ring in a busy citycenter?
Ringer volume is adequate, even in busy places. I do not use vibrate unless I'm in a meeting and it is useful enough to alert me.
- Is TimeScape THAT useful? Do you use it, or do you use the native messaging app?
I do not use Timescape at all. I don't bother with Facebook or Twitter so it is essentially useless unless you like eye candy. I suppose if you are very socially inclined through these services that it would be benficial.
- Keyboard - GSMArena says the 2.1 update helped a lot. Your thoughts?
Keyboard has improved with the latest update and I find it to be on par with the better on-screen keyboards.
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? What would you have gotten instead?
I do not regret purchasing an X10. I'm happy with it. It is excellent for browsing and both audio and video capture and playback. The camera is outstanding as long as it is not dusk or later. The phone has good signal strength and call quality. The in-call volume is the only problem.
Thank you for your comments!
Regarding in-call volume - could this be solved with a headset/pair of earphones? I'd imagine that I would most probably use it as my primary music player anyway.
yes you can solve it by using headsets as I always use them for music playing and receiving phone calls
My battery life last minimum 13 hours with constant use ( beautiful weather live wallpaper ) with facebook and twitter updating every 1 hour.
I do use timescape and I found it very useful, the only downside of it that it uses the browser to open comments or status, it would be better if it uses integrated application or 3rd party apps to open the notifications.
the ringtone volume is not the best in crowded places as you will miss some calls eventually.
And no I do not regret buying it because I am enjoying it
Ok i dont know whats wrong with the people above but they should check their ears and handsets. First my battery lasts 2 days with medium use and a whole day with heavy use. Any smartphone with this kind of capabilities wont last any longer (iphone, galaxy s, desire hd.. etc) . The loudnes of internal speaker was fine on 1.6 and now with 2.1 is great. The external speaker good enough and a lot better than some brand new devices like the desire hd wich speaker is terrible. The phone itself is great, dont beleive this reviewers as they dont take time to play with the devices and they just test everything stock and untouched. The x10 is the best smartphone phone ive had and ive had quite a few some of woch are galaxy s and still have an iphone 4 wich my wife uses. Let me tell u from build quality, good looks, stability and usfulnes to modding, customising and having fun.. this phone delivers. Its just solid. I have looked for many other options and i just cant find anything that matches my needs better than this. For example the galaxy s is cheap built very light and ugly and really unstable had it for a week and its gone. Iphone is just simple and boring with no customatisation whatsoever, small screen and everyone has it. Htc devices have bad cameras and bad audio quality witch i cant cope with. The new dhd for example has a really bad loudspeaker and a really ****ty 8mp camera also battery life is half that of the x10. The x10 is unique device and my strong points that i look in a phone are : works good as a phone, has a big bright screen thats easy to read, fast and responsive, stable, good camera, good audio quality internal and external, good battery life, a lot of customatisation options to make it look and work as i want it to, sd card, removable battery, flash light (very useful), notification led (very very useful). The x10 gives me all this and more. There is many many x10 users that are very very happy with their handsets and i think you will find that out soon . Personaly the best experiance ive had with a phone. Hope this helps.
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Ok i dont know whats wrong with the people above but they should check their ears and handsets. First my battery lasts 2 days with medium use and a whole day with heavy use.
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Basically, it all depend on your usage... some have 4 days battery life while other 7 hours of battery life..
if you use your phone to update your social life every X hours, have direct push emails to your phone, live wallpaper that connects to your internet every 1 minute to check weather forecast. listen to music for 2 hours a day, play games for another two hours. Then you'll get the 13 hours I'm talking about..
Medium usage can take me up to 3 days but I am a heavy user so I don't think that I will cut-off anything just to save battery time
In the end it depends on how are you going to use your X10.... butt keep in mind that comparing to other android devices, X10 has the better battery life
The battery lasts me a day and usually have around 30-40% remaining before I go to bed. About 15 hours of usage. I listen to songs on it for about 30 minutes each day, 30 minutes ebook reading, 30-60 minute angry birds, a few texts, and some random playing around with it just for the sake of it, I feel like it is a bit improved since 1.6, about 15% more.
Ring is pretty loud, although I still have some missed calls because I keep decreasing the ring volume by accident.
In-Call volume has been a bit improved after 2.1, I can now hear the other person at a skytrain station, could still be louder tho.
Timescape takes too long to start up, I really never use it.
As for keyboard, there are tons of alternatives on the market, so I don't think that will be a problem at all.
Finally, I would probably get a WP7 phone if I hadn't got my x10, WP7 feels quite sexy IMO. But the x10 is still much more impressive than the n900 i traded. ( missing the built in FM transmitter though )
good luck
- How is the battery life?
I got about that sorta useage but i dont use headphones, i play the music over bluetooth to my sterio in my car and in the office. and i get 18 to 20 hours out of it.
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength?
The ring tone is a bit quiet but still prety good. you just have to find the right ringtone, or tweek yours till it's right. (theres Apps for that ) i herd my phone in the machine shop at work so i'd say it's loud enough.
- Is TimeScape THAT useful? Do you use it, or do you use the native messaging app?
Timescape is prety cool, i like how you can put all the post from all your social and SMS in cronological order. I dont use the native Messenging App nemore I use Handcent to make and read my messeges. Timescape is just to slow.
- Keyboard -
I like the new keyboard heap better, i'm still using it since i got the update. and prob will keep using it i think.
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? What would you have gotten instead?
Was loooking at a Samsung Galaxy but went for the X10 instead, Now my GF has the Galaxy i'm glad i went for the X10. it looks good, (doesn't look like a Iphone ) it's fast, and works.
- How is the battery life?
I play music, lots of texts and moderate calling... there has been maybe one day since I've bought it that it died before I got home to charge it, but that was at about two in the morning. If I dropped the music and kept my eye on the use, easily go two days. I have no problems with it..I don't have to be careful or not do what I want to do, and it'll still last at least the day
- Ringing Volume/Vibration Strength?
It's fairly loud, but the vibrate is great too....very rare that I don't know I get a text or call
- Is TimeScape THAT useful?
Pretty nice looking, but I don't use it. I think its just a fad, I'm kinda curious now as to how many people use it
- Keyboard -
New keyboard is nice, but you can download all sorts of things to get what you need
- Last but not least, do you regret getting the X10? Not at all, I love this phone
Battery life depends on the apps you run, how much you use wifi, gps, etc. It's a decent battery that can easily be run down with heavy use. But that's not the battery's fault. Think of it as a car battery that has to run extra lights, high power stereo system, in-car DVD... Get the picture?
Ringtone and vibrate are fine. In-call volume is the problem that has yet to be corrected.
I don't use Timescape or Mediascape. There are many other good alternatives to them.
As other users have said, you have a load of keyboards to choose from, no problem there.
The X10 came late to Android 2.1 but it's a fine phone in general. There still are kinks that need to be ironed out but in my mind it's the best looking Android phone out there.
If I were to get another phone it would have to be its successor, the x12/Anzu which should arrive sometime in 2011. Maybe that's something you want to consider.
Wow... I'm surprised. Not a single bad review here... much different from what I've been reading elsewhere on tech blogs.
I was talking to a sales rep in a local electronics store, and he was trying to get me to buy the Desire HD. Honestly, it is giant, but I don't know if I am wiling to spend that much more money.
Alright then, I think I'm sold. Galaxy S isn't an option according to reviews and its bad quality. Others are just too out of price range. I'm coming X10!
If you can try to borrow an X10 & make a call in a noisy environment, so that you're sure you can live with the audio level. Go through some of the other threads & see what people are complaining about, & decide if it's something that matters to you.
Actually, only people who never used it, hates it. That's the downside of being beautiful. You have detractors. I don't find any problem with in call volume at all. I always have two phones with me, but at noisy environment both will be the same on whatever volume level it is. My solution, go inside or plug in the headset. I'm planning to buy a SE MW600 Bluetooth headset anyway, so this part will be a moot point soon, plus the benefit of having an FM radio...
Go inside is not a solution, & not everyone wants to wear a BT headset all the time. What if you forget to bring your headset with you?
To say that people who dislike the X10 have never used one is wrong. The advice I gave is sound, you can never go wrong trying something before you buy.
To be honest. I just not only like my x10. But I really love it. Although there are some relly annoying bugs like in call volume, battery performance, virtual keyboard problem. Use bluetooth is not a solution because it will decrease the power easily.
But x10 is good phone. Trust me. If you don't like x10, it means you don't like android. This is all about OS. All about Android. All about smart phone. A phone with so many features. Just find, install. And may be tweak.
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I know this won't go down well but here is a summary of my experiences.
I was really excited about the x10, I pre ordered it and owned it for about 6 months. I cannot in good conscience advise that you buy one. Having recently (last week) upgraded to a desire HD i realise just how poor the x10 was in so many respects. The only thing it really excels in is looks. When I bought it it was not a terrible choice, but it has only slipped further behind in my opinion. Despite the LONG awaited 2.1 update the software is still poorly implemented. SE have proven to be unreliable.
There are too many good (better) alternatives available at the same price that you should really look at them.
Hope this helped...
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I know this won't go down well but here is a summary of my experiences.
I was really excited about the x10, I pre ordered it and owned it for about 6 months. I cannot in good conscience advise that you buy one. Having recently (last week) upgraded to a desire HD i realise just how poor the x10 was in so many respects. The only thing it really excels in is looks. When I bought it it was not a terrible choice, but it has only slipped further behind in my opinion. Despite the LONG awaited 2.1 update the software is still poorly implemented. SE have proven to be unreliable.
There are too many good (better) alternatives available at the same price that you should really look at them.
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Sorry but can you please explain poor? I mean what is better in the DHD than the X10? Camera, Audio quality, Speakerphone, Battery life, Build quality? or is it just smoother because of 2.2 and you think its so great?
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Sorry but can you please explain poor? I mean what is better in the DHD than the X10? Camera, Audio quality, Speakerphone, Battery life, Build quality? or is it just smoother because of 2.2 and you think its so great?
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Im pretty sure its because of 2.2 which in fact is being worked on for our phones as we speak, and also because of the sense ui which i think is ubber s***. To the OP, the desire hd is garbage with battery and camera quality and tbh as a long time htc customer with devices owned such as the tilt 2 and touch pro and the desire(for a month) the camera can never be as good as x10s and also battery is outstanding on my x10 it all depends on how you configure your device its your decision mate, u can get the x10 now or wait for the x12 either way sony makes quality built phones im not trying to sound like a fanboy here, i like htc and sony equally, like people said, try it out, people who hate it, never tried it!
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Sure i can go into a little more detail...
Firstly, yes the DesireHD is fast, REALLY fast but i dont think that on its own if a fair comparison, its a newer phone.
Firstly, battery... the x10 battery is quite poor, not awful, but not great. If you use the phones features fully it will not last a day. That isnt too unusual when it comes to smart phones, but saying it has a good battery is wrong in my opinion.
The camera, part of the reason i bought the phone was the camera, and it really is not that great. The app takes a long time to open which is a real pain for "in the moment" shots and the results are below average in poor light. Not having a flash is a HUGE problem in my opinion. The camera application is hopeless too.
Timescape and Mediascape have some nice features but need to be faster. Overall though i like them.
The touchscreen, multi-touch issues aside, the actual touchscreen is quite poor. It really struggles with accuracy near the edges (more than most) and often gets "stuck" on. (I have had 3 x10 handsets, so not an isolated issue)
Sony made a lot of customisations, most of which sucked. The looked pretty (sort of) but impeded functionality and slowed things down. They have gotten slightly better in that regard but still...
As for HTC sense, i think its very good indeed. The sense launcher is not at all to my tastes, i use ADW, but the modifications HTC have made to the rest of the UI are actually helpful. Often just little things like the "magnifier" for moving the cursor in the text etc but it all adds up.
If the x10 were half the price i wouldnt have an issue, but its expensive for what it is.
To me, after 6 months of daily use, it seems obvious that this was SE's first attempt at an android smartphone, I would wait till they have had more practice or go with a manufacturer that has a better track record... Samsung, Motorola, HTC etc
Ultimately though, its a personal thing, you may fall in love with it!
im still debating this tablet, but i want reeeeallly bad. so heres my background, i get easily frustrated when something doesn't work the way it should, im on my 3rd Samsung Infuse with in a month... but anyways, i was browsing the all 135 some pages and i see people having well, a lot of issues, chargers, screens, speakers (pop... whatever that is, seems to be known around the threads.) i read about people sending them in for repair. so i need to know what are the serious issues with this tablet. issues that everyone has recognized as a known issue,
This mostly happens most with 1st/2nd/3rd/4rd batch/shipment. I think new batch with the serial no# b5xxxxxxx or higher doesn't have noticeable issues.
B5 still have issues, but keep in mind that this is still a minority of people. The majority are enjoying a near perfect experience hardware-wise. A very common issue is light bleed, though in most instances this is very minimal. Mine had, unfortunately, the major issue of having an unresponsive area on the screen, which is why I RMA'd it.
I'd still choose this tablet any day if I had to start over again. Hell, even with the defective touchscreen it was still an awesome tablet Can't beat this screen right now, and the dock is great!
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I just got my Tf a few weeks ago (and hey, it is a B5) and the worst problem i've had is there aren't enough hours in the day to enjoy it. Nothing like firing up GOF2 THD for a little while then reading same Douglas Adams. Oh, and then watching Hulu. I do that whenever stuff whenever i see an ipad user.
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im still debating this tablet, but i want reeeeallly bad. so heres my background, i get easily frustrated when something doesn't work the way it should, im on my 3rd Samsung Infuse with in a month... but anyways, i was browsing the all 135 some pages and i see people having well, a lot of issues, chargers, screens, speakers (pop... whatever that is, seems to be known around the threads.) i read about people sending them in for repair. so i need to know what are the serious issues with this tablet. issues that everyone has recognized as a known issue,
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Yes. The TF has reported problems. Nothing is perfect much less new products. I count myself fortunate that my TF works pretty well. From what I have read android itself can be frustrating especially when one tinkers with it but then that is part of the enjoyment of android. Learning. Reading your post my first thought would be to suggest you wait. The TF, as most android products, can be frustrating but also keep in mind that you're not reading about the majority of TF users who either haven't had problems or have dealt with them.
Even a new Porsche can have problems!
im okay with the light bleed. and i know about the speakers not being even. but whats this speaker pop thing about?
I don't have any problems, I can tell you that mine is perfect. I don't care if you believe it or not
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im okay with the light bleed. and i know about the speakers not being even. but whats this speaker pop thing about?
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I can answer that question,
there are 2 kinds of popping sound from the speaker discussed in this forum,
the first one is with rooted user using overclock kernels.
occasionally the speaker would make a "pop" sound (when you get notifications)
but that does not happen to unrooted users, and in fact, the lastest kernel seems to get rid of that question already.
another popping sound issue if reported from people streaming music from the "google Music" app.
sometimes after a certain amount of time listening to music using the app, the speaker, actually the headphones, speaker doesn't have such issue, start to produce some kind of "impurity", a constant popping sound.
But the issue can be easily solved by unplugging the headphone and replugging it. I've tried jumping straight to Youtube app when I start hearing the popping sound, and it's not there in the youtube app. So i suspect its more of an software issue. Asus is already looking into it the last time I checked.
What about the dock issues?
This video sums up all the serious issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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This video sums up all the serious issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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well some one doesnt get a thanks button click... ass....
There are a LOT of useless threads on this forum, but this one doesn't qualify. I can understand that, after a few months , it gets tough to know what issues are still relevant and which ones are a thing of the past. So this youtube noob reply was totally unnecessary.
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My dock has zero issues. It charges, it registers the keys, mouse works great with USB ports, haven't tried the sd card. And the touchpad is amazing.
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I promise you that 99% of the people complaining are just being the biological trolls that they were born as.
The TF is a great device and IT WILL do everything it was intended to do pretty damn well. The dock definitely takes some getting used to, especially if your not used to mini netbook type keyboard.
But it is really responsive and adds legitimate battery life and functionality to the device.
The few bugs that the TF does have are very minor and will be sorted out with time just like ever god damn piece of hardware in the world...For some reason people don't know how to do anything but complain on these forums. Don't be swayed by them, chances are they are very incompetent in real life and look to the internet to hear out there pathetic pleas for attention
I beg to differ @ previous poster. There are legitimate QC issues here. I've gotten 4 different units sent to me in the last two week and each had issues. The latest has a whole section of the x axis (in landscape) about a finger width wide unresponsive to touch all the way across the screen. Bull**** in my opinion. Also look at the beautiful RMA threads here. Really making me contemplate my decision. I love the device and its capabilities, but am discouraged by these shortcomings of the manufacturer.
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This is hands down the best thing I have purchased in the last several years, I have to make myself put it down. Having said that, if you are picky then no tablet (android or other) will be good for you. Honeycomb is far from complete or polished and there are problems if you look for them. In my opinion non of them overshadow the experience.
My other devices are collecting dust.
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There are a LOT of useless threads on this forum, but this one doesn't qualify. I can understand that, after a few months , it gets tough to know what issues are still relevant and which ones are a thing of the past. So this youtube noob reply was totally unnecessary.
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Yes it does qualify. This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041502, is a stickied thread and has a complete ordered list of noted issues with detailed information about the issues. Oh and its up to date since the dates for changes are noted right there and all.
I linked this thread here: http://www.facebook.com/ASUS/posts/209779482398791
I don’t have the dock, so cant comment on that. Instead I’ll comment on the tablet alone. I have the 16GB model with Honeycomb 3.1 (stock no mods, not rooted yet), had it for 6 days, so these are more like my first impressions:
Pros :
Beautiful screen (very little light leak on mine so I’m quite happy. But has one dead pixel though, but not noticeable)
Good battery life (I can easily go beyond 8hrs with moderate use)
Everything (I have tried so far) except web browsing works as it should
Cons:
Web browsing is very disappointing to say the least. The stock browser crashes and lags to the point of being unusable.
Flash video performance in the browser is poor, HD videos breaks up and low res videos are blocky when viewed fullscreen, deblocking filters don’t work properly or not at all.
Video Playback isn't the best But Theirs Work Around (HandBreak and Different Video Players)
Flash in my opinions is fine but It can be improved
Music is awesome especially with Volume+ App
Games are Very Good. I play Spectral Souls and Galaxy on Fire 2
Screen Is Beautiful (Some Light bleed but all IPS have this problem yes even Ipads)
Overall Performance is Good (A Little Laggy with Widgets but ADW EX can fix this)
Browser is my Main Gripe. It Looks amazing and Loads Fine but Theirs Typing Browser lag and it Kills the Experience. Its not a Hardware Problem its Software. Its eather Honeycomb or Asus Custom UI. Idk which but it should be fixed :x
All in All its an Amazing Device and if The Browser Typing Lag gets Fixed, Then this thing would be BEAST. Theirs a Rumored Android 3.2 that fixes alot of HC Issues coming out in the next few weeks so thats Might be what everyone is wishing for. until then we gotta wait on Asus/Google.
Edit: I Should Mention thats Their is ONLY typing Lag in Browser and Not Writing Documents/Apps. Strange..