Hi,
I've spent the last two days searching for info about hardware accelerated 3D graphics on our Touch2/Quallcom MSM7225 .
This page on wikipedia says that the MSM7225 has Hardware OpenGL, Adreno 200/ATI Imageon included...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSM7000
I'm completely confused :/
Is it possible? Is there a driver missing? Is there no graphics chipset available?
Why?
Please help...
Thanks,
MrJSO
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Does Trinity have an ATI display Chip as Hermes did? If not, which chip is inside Trinity?
Thanks.
nologin said:
Does Trinity have an ATI display Chip as Hermes did? If not, which chip is inside Trinity?
Thanks.
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The chipset used in the Trinity (Qualcomm 6275) does contain a graphics processor, however based on the outcome of benchmarks (pre production models) we may assume that the graphics processor part is not active yet.
Follow the link for a more detailed description of the chipset.
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
XenoV said:
The chipset used in the Trinity (Qualcomm 6275) does contain a graphics processor, however based on the outcome of benchmarks (pre production models) we may assume that the graphics processor part is not active yet.
Follow the link for a more detailed description of the chipset.
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
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Thanks for your answer.
As far as I know, Hermes also equipped with this chipset, but it seems the chipset has never been activated in hermes. I really wonder if the functionalities of Qualcomm 6275 would be activated in Trinity.
Would the processing power of samsung CPU (400Mhz) alone be able to decode MP4 video at 30fps?
Thanks again.
It should as I am doing that on my Wizard using pocketDVD Studio and TCPMP player using the wizards 200Mhz. CPU. It gets choppy sometimes but only during intense scenes and lasts only for a second or 2. I think it is still watchible though. Hope this helps.
OK. Something has me confused. Reading through the Qualcomm MSM6275 datasheet had me believing that the Hermes had built-in support for OpenGL ES. But on further investigation I have found that the ATI Imageon 2282 doesn't support it. Only later versions. Also, there is no mention of OpenGL ES in these Hermes forums. I would have thought this would be built into the Imageon chip rather than another part of the MSM processor. So who do I believe? Qualcomm or ATI?
The reason I ask is because of the acceleration capabilities of the pocketsnes emulator, although it only supports the 2700G GPU?
Hey there,
Was doing alot of research online about the graphic chipset from ATI on Athena but not even ATi has any infomation on their Webby.
Anyone know the specs of this w2284 chipset? Would really like to have more information on the chipset.....
Cheers
i agree with you, i tried to find info on the chipset to but i couldn't so i was like fu*k it and bought it anyways
Interesting thing, I was looking for Intel® PXA270 and found out all things are over to Marvell. Pretty confusing but ATI is just part of that chip, not a special chip
I saw some posts at the Coreplayer (comercial version of TCPMP) forum that ATI has refused to make the specs of that chip available to the Coreplayer developers, effectively crippling the chip for being used my alternative media players.
that very intersting, will i think we all need to find a player that ati likes
ATI W2284 not only for processing video and graphics, but also for handling the camera. Particularly, calculating autofocus algorithms and settings of automatic white balance are done with the help of this graphic subsystem
hmm... i think tt is known.... But if i m not wrong my old blueangel also uses ATI chipset...
problem is like example nVidia's Goforce 5500 is known to have a clock speed of 150 to 200 mhz....
how much is ATI's W2284??? Secondly does it have hardware encoding N decoding of H.264 videos??
Blah blah blah... Lots of qns left unanswered.
Anyone knows??
Cheers....
bLiTz^ said:
hmm... i think tt is known.... But if i m not wrong my old blueangel also uses ATI chipset...
problem is like example nVidia's Goforce 5500 is known to have a clock speed of 150 to 200 mhz....
how much is ATI's W2284??? Secondly does it have hardware encoding N decoding of H.264 videos??
Blah blah blah... Lots of qns left unanswered.
Anyone knows??
Cheers....
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Read here:
http://ati.amd.com/products/handheld/imageonfaq.html
http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon2282/index.html
and here:
http://ati.amd.com/products/handheld/products.html
Not very definitive I know, but never really found much else about them since last year and I believe ATI is remaining tight lipped for a reason...also not releasing info to Corecodec so they can support the chipset properly.
Notice also in the 3rd link, 2282 is listed,......but where is the mention of 2284?
I give up with ATI/AMD/Imageon....Imagine if we could get the best out of it via hardware decoding...how sweet that would be.
Just have to settle for using the Imageon driver for now, as it still yields visually better results thatn Rawframe buffer mode or direct draw and outperforms both in benchmarks fo speed.
Sorry can't help any more than that. Good luck on finding anything else useful.
no probs mackaby007......
Hmm i wonder...... mayb W2284 is actually a Modified Imageon W2282...
W2282 supports 3MP Cam.....
bLiTz^ said:
no probs mackaby007......
Hmm i wonder...... mayb W2284 is actually a Modified Imageon W2282...
W2282 supports 3MP Cam.....
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That's what I thought too.
Ive noticed a real delay between image and sound when playing some games.
Games in question are FIFA 2002 from EA Sports and also Smart Tennis from SIMBSOFT.
Did anybody noticed something similar??
Any news? I'm waiting for optimized Ati W2284 driver for HTC Athena... May be it will be supported in CorePlayer...
Any news? I'm waiting for optimized Ati W2284 driver for HTC Athena... May be it will be supported in CorePlayer...
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bLiTz^ said:
Hey there,
Was doing alot of research online about the graphic chipset from ATI on Athena but not even ATi has any infomation on their Webby.
Anyone know the specs of this w2284 chipset? Would really like to have more information on the chipset.....
Cheers
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Hey, thinks for your work.I'm sorry I don't konw how to help you.But i think it maybe like qualcomm 7200's graphics chip.because the first ppc phone base on qualcomm 7200 is kaiser/TyTN II has the same problem as our 7500 at first.but someone solved it by modfy the 7201a driver for diamond for it.and the 7200 is the first product after ati sold the handheld products to qualcomm.so i think they maybe a little like.
i'm sorry for my poor english!
Hi, What do we know about the ati graphics chip in the x1. i know it gas 128mb of ram but what can it do in terms of graphical power?
I think he has a gpu (ati infineon) but he don't had his driver as others HTC...
yeah, and are there any graphic demos, which show the power of the 3d accelerator? is tf3d accelerated?
Once and for all. Diamond/Pro/HD/X1 all have 3d drivers! It's just that not every application is using it and the performance isn't groundbreaking. But they have those drivers!!
any 2d drivers? Thats really the only thing important to me. If i just wanted 3d drivers I would stick with my kaiser.
Helo,
recently I've started to think how can I improve my Toshiba G910. I've read that it is almost impossible to cook new ROM so I thought that maybe new graphic driver would help. I found out that this phone is on Qualcomm msm7200 and Adreno 130.
In specification that GPU supports hardware acceleration for 2D and 3D, is it possible to rewrite opensource drivers for snapdragon so it would work on WM 6 based devices?
Thanks for replays
ZawadaZSE
I think it maybe more complicated than that. The Snapdragon CPU's utilize newer hardware, which the GPU is Adreno 200/205 models. They have OpenGL 2.0 mobile drivers and such. The drivers, i believe, are written for them.
That being said, I do not think that writing open source drivers written for snapdragon will not work on the processor you currently have. I am using a Touch Pro and it has the same CPU as your device (mine has a higher clockspeed). They are completely different drivers, snapdragon's core is different, and do not forget these are "system on a chip (SoC)" cpu's.
There maybe drivers floating around to utilize the full power of the snapdragon on a WM6.x device because the Toshiba TG01, HTC HD2, and LG eXpo all have the same 1Ghz Snapdragon Processor. Again, these drivers would be not compatible with your device seeing you have a different chip.
I would say to try and install the touch diamond 3D drivers. The hardware/software set in our processors used to be ATI Imageon. I have the drivers installed on my device and the 3D games do run at full FPS. Before installing the driver, the 3D games (Xtrakt and Experiment 13) ran at 2 FPS. with the drivers, i get about 23 FPS. maybe its worth looking at these drivers that already exist. Can not tell you how to cook a ROM because i am not a chef but for drivers to try out i would say the touch diamond 3D drivers maybe a good starting place.